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51 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Paragon Prep would fire its CEO and CFO if they didn’t jack up tuition by $10k at least.


all of this, every private or pay for school is jacking up tuition by the amount the state is soon to be handing out. If it’s a school with more applicants than spots, they’re going to up it even more. People will pay it 

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On 5/20/2024 at 3:21 PM, Brisketexan said:

They already have.  It isn't enough.  The insane MAGA draw is just too strong.  The faces are going to keep voting for the Leopards until there are no faces left to eat.


very funny part, the best private (hell even mid) schools don’t want kids from broke ass typical maga families 

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very funny part, the best private (hell even mid) schools don’t want kids from broke ass typical maga families 
I doubt they would want their kids in those schools. Those schools are too elitist. As long as they get a little extra cash to pay for a church school, or homeschooling materials, or any school that doesn't have so many of "those kids" in it they'll be fine with it.

It's just another example of a poor man giving a rich man a dollar, as long as he gets a penny out of the deal.
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On 5/20/2024 at 3:57 PM, SydneyCarton said:

And that private schools can reject whoever they want from being accepted. Like, you know, THOSE people. 

The west Texas oil barons have their people in place to execute their vision. Now, tax monies will be diverted from needy public schools in rural Texas so that Christians can send their kids to schools like this one bankrolled by those very same west Texas billionaires:

https://www.mcaknights.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=386607&type=d&pREC_ID=879161

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On 5/26/2024 at 6:38 PM, Fudge Nuggets said:

Paragon Prep would fire its CEO and CFO if they didn’t jack up tuition by $10k at least.

This is exactly what happened in Huckabeef's home state

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On 5/26/2024 at 5:28 PM, Texas Jeff said:

Austin ISD's budget is in bad shape, although IMHO the admin is doing the best they can with the constraints they have.

Austin ISD thought that their deficit for next year was going to be around $60 million, and they had a goal of cutting $30 million without touching classroom spending to get to a $30 million deficit for next year.  Attendance was less than projected and home values did not go up as much as planned.  They are now an additional $30 million in the hole ... so even with the admin cuts they are looking at a possible $60 million shortfall.

Once solution to this is to ask the voters to up the tax rate to close the gap.  They can, with voter approval, raise taxes by 9.1 cents -- this is called a VATRE tax election.  0.1 of these cents are "golden" pennies, meaning that the district gets to keep all of the money.  9.0 cents of these are copper pennies, which are subject to recapture.  At Austin ISD's recapture rate, 75% of the copper penny funds will go to the state, and the district will keep 25% of the taxes raised.  The state currently has a surplus, so these "extra" Robin Hood funds won't go towards education, they will just make the surplus larger.

Austin ISD would get to keep about $41 million of the new tax revenue.  From that bucket, Austin ISD teachers and librarians would get about $15 million and district would spend about $25 million on other stuff (individual specialists, registrars, reducing the deficit).  The state of Texas would get about $120 million.  Austin voters will probably have a chance to vote for or against this tax at the November election.

The district can't deficit spend forever.  Within a few years, their fund balance will hit a critically low level and there will be no more savings to spend.  Without legislative action, they are turbo-screwed at that point, even if the new VATRE tax passes.

Also, Austin ISD is currently under a TEA monitorship because of past problems with special education evaluations.  As part of their punishment, the trustees had to agree to a "Lone Star Governance" TEA-approved process.  Part of this process mandates that the board can only spend 50% of their time talking about issues that do not relate to student outcomes.  The budget is a non-student outcome issue.  So if they want to talk about the budget for an hour, they have to also talk about "student outcomes" for an hour.  Talking about student outcomes is great, but at some point in the year you have to buckle down and talk about the friggin' budget for a few days -- and the board has to be very careful to not violate their agreement with TEA to avoid a state takeover.

alternative, keep $60 million of the $1 billion that abbott absconds with from austin isd an misappropriates for his border cosplay embarrassments.

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On 5/20/2024 at 4:41 PM, atomheartbevo said:

People who are scared of "woke" whatever usually can't define "woke" when you ask them on the spot.

And they usually overlap with the idiots who foam at the mouth over "CRT" even thought they typically can't define it either.

These people get upset by things like this being taught in schools: https://www.tsl.texas.gov/ref/abouttx/secession/2feb1861.html because it shows that the Texas government of the 1850s/1860s was hell-bent on preserving slavery "in all future time":

These morons try to tell you what our founding fathers or politicians from over a century-and-a-half-ago meant, but when you quote the actual writings of those politicians, the morons lose their shit and try to claim that they didn't really mean what they were writing down and signing and using a reason to do what they did in the 1860s.

 

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On 6/8/2024 at 4:49 PM, Bullneck said:

 

 

Wasn't long ago that the GOP actually thought it was a good idea to be inclusive and attempt to attract minority groups that were conservative on some issues. Now those groups are called upon to be deported and soon terminated with extreme prejudice. A tweet from a candidate would have made national news and been condemned by national GOP leaders. Now its used to bring out more voters.

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29 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Wasn't long ago that the GOP actually thought it was a good idea to be inclusive and attempt to attract minority groups that were conservative on some issues. Now those groups are called upon to be deported and soon terminated with extreme prejudice. A tweet from a candidate would have made national news and been condemned by national GOP leaders. Now its used to bring out more voters.


it’s easier and cheaper to disenfranchise their vote. 

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On 6/10/2024 at 12:05 PM, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

why? so they can kill him again. I think he learned his lesson

oh fuck, I understand now. american jesus is white because he'll come back in the form his supporters will want him to be SO they don't kill him. sorta like the stay puft mashmallow man. but in reverse. and upside down. i dunno, you get it. it would be pretty goddamn funny if that actually happened. "SEEEEEE?????!!!! jeebus is white!" Oh man, I should stop drinking coffee after noon. lulz.

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Oklahoma Supreme Court rules against the dumbass attempt at a publicly funded Catholic charter school. I'm sure they'll appeal to SCOTUS who can go rogue with the First Amendment, but I don't think they can overturn under the Oklahoma Constitution which has a very strongly worded and specific preclusion of public funds used to promote religion. For that reason, I expect SCOTUS would deny cert and wait for a religious issue that raises only federal law.

https://www.kjrh.com/news/local-news/ok-supreme-court-rules-catholic-charter-school-unconstitutional?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR39xW5jcAgzZfMfsBee4oVbjdvBFKVamIkwf1k6IaMTb5hU1KcvnM58Row_aem_zTyYgW4254OY1DuZJqEheQ

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4 hours ago, 'stache said:

Oklahoma Supreme Court rules against the dumbass attempt at a publicly funded Catholic charter school. I'm sure they'll appeal to SCOTUS who can go rogue with the First Amendment, but I don't think they can overturn under the Oklahoma Constitution which has a very strongly worded and specific preclusion of public funds used to promote religion. For that reason, I expect SCOTUS would deny cert and wait for a religious issue that raises only federal law.

https://www.kjrh.com/news/local-news/ok-supreme-court-rules-catholic-charter-school-unconstitutional?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR39xW5jcAgzZfMfsBee4oVbjdvBFKVamIkwf1k6IaMTb5hU1KcvnM58Row_aem_zTyYgW4254OY1DuZJqEheQ

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teed up perfectly for the radical right scotus 

 

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1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:


teed up perfectly for the radical right scotus 

 

As noted above, really not a case for the SCOTUS.  Was decided per the OK state constitution, and the OK supremes have the final say on that subject matter.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

As noted above, really not a case for the SCOTUS.  Was decided per the OK state constitution, and the OK supremes have the final say on that subject matter.


 

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

As noted above, really not a case for the SCOTUS.  Was decided per the OK state constitution, and the OK supremes have the final say on that subject matter.

 

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22 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

He is arguing that Oklahoma misinterpreted Oklahoma's Constitution. That ain't going anywhere. There is no federal issue here. And even this Court isn't going to find one. 

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24 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

He is arguing that Oklahoma misinterpreted Oklahoma's Constitution. That ain't going anywhere. There is no federal issue here. And even this Court isn't going to find one. 

They also ruled that the contract violated the U.S. Constitution's Establishment Clause and rejected the school's argument that denying its charter would violate the Free Exercise Clause. But reversing those would not change the outcome under the Oklahoma Constitution, so I doubt that SCOTUS's fascist wing would want to take this case and would prefer to wait for a cleaner version that relies only on the U.S. Constitution. They'll find a better case next year as part of Project 2025.

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Aaaand here we go, the far right is starting to remove books by the hundreds from school libraries, and they're targeting anything and everything that could oppose their culture war

https://www.jta.org/2024/06/26/united-states/texas-school-district-agrees-to-remove-anne-franks-diary-maus-the-fixer-and-670-other-books-after-right-wing-groups-complaint

 

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I am mildly intrigued by the attack on Anne Frank’s story and their supposed support for Israel/Jewish people.


But then again…. It is also totally within character.

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2 minutes ago, Nivek said:

I am mildly intrigued by the attack on Anne Frank’s story and their supposed support for Israel/Jewish people.


But then again…. It is also totally within character.

Night by Elie Weisel is probably on that list too.

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32 minutes ago, Nivek said:

I am mildly intrigued by the attack on Anne Frank’s story and their supposed support for Israel/Jewish people.


But then again…. It is also totally within character.

She talks about her burgeoning homosexual attractions in her diary

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5 hours ago, Captainant said:

Aaaand here we go, the far right is starting to remove books by the hundreds from school libraries, and they're targeting anything and everything that could oppose their culture war

https://www.jta.org/2024/06/26/united-states/texas-school-district-agrees-to-remove-anne-franks-diary-maus-the-fixer-and-670-other-books-after-right-wing-groups-complaint

 


it really makes the nazis look bad, paints them in a bad light

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6 hours ago, Nivek said:

I am mildly intrigued by the attack on Anne Frank’s story and their supposed support for Israel/Jewish people.

But then again…. It is also totally within character.

They hate the Jews based on the books they want removed, but need Israel for some kind of end times bullshit.

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1 hour ago, 'stache said:

That asshole just won't fucking stop. He'll get shut down again by the AG in the courts. I'd love nothing more than to punch him in the fucking face repeatedly. 

I have a cousin and cousin-in-law who teach at a semi-rural school outside of Tulsa, and for a while, they’ve been scouting out the Dallas/FW area, as well as places in a few other states in the Midwest, mainly for salary reasons. This is the kind of shit that will push them out.  They’ve kind of crossed Texas off their list, and if they ask, I’ll tell them we aren’t far behind OK.

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2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I have a cousin and cousin-in-law who teach at a semi-rural school outside of Tulsa, and for a while, they’ve been scouting out the Dallas/FW area, as well as places in a few other states in the Midwest, mainly for salary reasons. This is the kind of shit that will push them out.

The proper response is to begin tomorrow's lesson with "class, today we are going to talk about how some men have giant donkey dicks, and ejaculate enormous amounts of jizz, so much so that it is compared to how much a horse ejaculates.  Please turn your bibles to Ezekiel 23:20.  And remember, your homework tonight is to make a papier mache giant dick that ejaculates at least a quarter cup of fluid."

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38 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

The proper response is to begin tomorrow's lesson with "class, today we are going to talk about how some men have giant donkey dicks, and ejaculate enormous amounts of jizz, so much so that it is compared to how much a horse ejaculates.  Please turn your bibles to Ezekiel 23:20.  And remember, your homework tonight is to make a papier mache giant dick that ejaculates at least a quarter cup of fluid."


big potential grift opp - an updated maga bible 

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

The proper response is to begin tomorrow's lesson with "class, today we are going to talk about how some men have giant donkey dicks, and ejaculate enormous amounts of jizz, so much so that it is compared to how much a horse ejaculates.  Please turn your bibles to Ezekiel 23:20.  And remember, your homework tonight is to make a papier mache giant dick that ejaculates at least a quarter cup of fluid."

This is the path to take.

If I were an Oklahoma teacher, all I can say is that they would most definitely not want me to use the Bible as a teaching aid. I'd do a deep dive into every inconsistency, every story of god's wrath killing innocents, and every gross thing I could find. I would make it my goal to turn all my students into doubters and atheists.

  • Students, can anyone tell me why there are two separate creation stories?
  • Can any of you explain why god would be concerned with people worshipping other gods if they didn't exist?
  • Why do you think god would be so petty as to make Abraham almost murder his own son as a test of faith? Wouldn't an all-knowing god already know what was in Abraham's heart?
  • If god commanded the Jewish people in the Ten Commandments not to kill, why did he tell them to slaughter all the Canaanites?
  • Who here believes that people who didn't have access to modern healthcare could live 800 years?
  • Why do y'all think there are so many different and contradicting versions of the resurrection story?
  • Who did Cain procreate with if there were no other people to do it with?
  • How could a pair of every single species on Earth fit within the confines of Noah's ark, given that it was approximately only the size of a Super Walmart?
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Coming soon:  the Trump Bible will be adopted by the State of Oklahoma as the only official Bible that can be purchased with state textbook monies, and any other Bible (or religious text) will not be on the accepted list.

 

 

 

 

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45 minutes ago, bolverk said:

This is the path to take.

If I were an Oklahoma teacher, all I can say is that they would most definitely not want me to use the Bible as a teaching aid. I'd do a deep dive into every inconsistency, every story of god's wrath killing innocents, and every gross thing I could find. I would make it my goal to turn all my students into doubters and atheists.

  • Students, can anyone tell me why there are two separate creation stories?
  • Can any of you explain why god would be concerned with people worshipping other gods if they didn't exist?
  • Why do you think god would be so petty as to make Abraham almost murder his own son as a test of faith? Wouldn't an all-knowing god already know what was in Abraham's heart?
  • If god commanded the Jewish people in the Ten Commandments not to kill, why did he tell them to slaughter all the Canaanites?
  • Who here believes that people who didn't have access to modern healthcare could live 800 years?
  • Why do y'all think there are so many different and contradicting versions of the resurrection story?
  • Who did Cain procreate with if there were no other people to do it with?
  • How could a pair of every single species on Earth fit within the confines of Noah's ark, given that it was approximately only the size of a Super Walmart?

How are there multiple races of people when all humans derived from adam and eve?

What are the similarities between god and santa claus?

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2 hours ago, HenryJames said:

 

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And this is where I hope Muslims, Hindus, and Native people all sue to get their religions recognized and incorporated in Oklahoma public schools. 

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1 hour ago, GenXer said:

How are there multiple races of people when all humans derived from adam and eve?

Well, you see, for starters Noah’s son Ham was cursed and that’s where black people come from. 

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