The destruction of America's public education system

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48 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Well, you see, for starters Noah’s son Ham was cursed and that’s where black people come from. 

Was Watermelon not available as a name yet? 

[Biff Tannen 45439]

51 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Well, you see, for starters Noah’s son Ham was cursed and that’s where black people come from. 

The way I remember it was Abel worked hard all summer harvesting his crops, while Cain just played in the field. Then when Winter came, Abel had all the nuts; Cain had no nuts, so he killed him.

[WhatTheBuck 28696]

42 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

The way I remember it was Abel worked hard all summer harvesting his crops, while Cain just played in the field. Then when Winter came, Abel had all the nuts; Cain had no nuts, so he killed him.

If anyone has nuts it was Cain. He was a farmer. Abel was a shepherd. God favored Abel’s sacrifices of meat over Cain’s plant offerings and that’s why Cain killed Abel.

The moral of the story is that God hates vegans. 

[CooterBrown 17852]

Ahh... the ole "Do as I say, not as I do" plan.

You know an updated bible is coming. Gotta get rid of that Jesus hippy dippy shit.

[Pancho 44186]

Who didn’t see this coming

 

[Satchel 6908]

The Carroll ISD has given the finger to the DOJ, saying it doesn’t have the authority to provide oversight on the racial issues plaguing  the district. They cited the SC’s Chevron deference ruling as a rationale for their defiance. When the interlopers from Balch Springs took their seats on the Carroll school board, they made their presence known in a hurry.

[TwiceHorn 31087]

On 6/25/2024 at 9:24 PM, Dahobbs said:

He is arguing that Oklahoma misinterpreted Oklahoma's Constitution. That ain't going anywhere. There is no federal issue here. And even this Court isn't going to find one. 

And Ryan can't fucking read.

Section 5. No public money or property shall ever be appropriated, applied, donated, or used, directly or indirectly, for the use, benefit, or support of any sect, church, denomination, or system of religion, or for the use, benefit, or support of any priest, preacher, minister, or other religious teacher or dignitary, or sectarian institution as such.

Any time a MAGAT invokes the Constitution, even a state one, you can be about 100% sure they have no idea what they're talking about.

Edited August 12 by TwiceHorn

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1 hour ago, Pancho said:

Who didn’t see this coming

 

Without reading the article let me play devil’s advocate-if you want to play ball in DeSantis Florida, particularly with the GOP attacking higher Ed as bastion of leftists, then spending money keeping friendly with the Gov and GOP dominated legislature doesn’t appear some secret kick-back machine, it seems like it’s necessary to preserve the institution.  

[SydneyCarton 47809]

9 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

Without reading the article let me play devil’s advocate-if you want to play ball in DeSantis Florida, particularly with the GOP attacking higher Ed as bastion of leftists, then spending money keeping friendly with the Gov and GOP dominated legislature doesn’t appear some secret kick-back machine, it seems like it’s necessary to preserve the institution.  

That plays better if Sasse wasn't a longtime republican congressman...even if he was anti MAGA, and the fact that he more than TRIPLED THE BUDGET. 

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3 hours ago, Satchel said:

The Carroll ISD has given the finger to the DOJ, saying it doesn’t have the authority to provide oversight on the racial issues plaguing  the district. They cited the SC’s Chevron deference ruling as a rationale for their defiance. When the interlopers from Balch Springs took their seats on the Carroll school board, they made their presence known in a hurry.

don’t be black in that isd and you’re good to go 

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2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

don’t be black in that isd and you’re good to go 

Well or if you just HAVE to be black be very good at football. 

[Anastasis 23329]

LOL at academic administrative bloat under the microscope at Florida. Sasse just resigned ostensibly as a result of his wife’s neurological post stroke seizure situation. 

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9 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

And Ryan can't fucking read.

Section 5. No public money or property shall ever be appropriated, applied, donated, or used, directly or indirectly, for the use, benefit, or support of any sect, church, denomination, or system of religion, or for the use, benefit, or support of any priest, preacher, minister, or other religious teacher or dignitary, or sectarian institution as such.

Any time a MAGAT invokes the Constitution, even a state one, you can be about 100% sure they have no idea what they're talking about.

Ryan can read.

He's running to be Trump's Secretary of Education (or the Secretary of Dismantling Education).

[BurntOrange&White 39272]

11 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

don’t be black in that isd and you’re good to go 

What about the chinamen? 

[DigglerontheHoof 20965]

11 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

What about the chinamen? 

[Pancho 44186]

13 hours ago, Anastasis said:

LOL at academic administrative bloat under the microscope at Florida. Sasse just resigned ostensibly as a result of his wife’s neurological post stroke seizure situation. 

Ahh yes, someone who is not in academics whining about administrative bloat, something they know nothing about but just assume because that’s what all radical republicans do with topics they know nothing about,

[mdmost 42697]

Another reason I'm happy with the Walz VP pick, he'll likely make education his priority as VP. 

[Captainant 27250]

13 hours ago, Anastasis said:

LOL at academic administrative bloat under the microscope at Florida. Sasse just resigned ostensibly as a result of his wife’s neurological post stroke seizure situation. 

 

26 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Ahh yes, someone who is not in academics whining about administrative bloat, something they know nothing about but just assume because that’s what all radical republicans do with topics they know nothing about,

Not only that, someone who is part of the health "insurance" industry complaining about administrative bloat lol. 

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3 hours ago, Pancho said:

Ahh yes, someone who is not in academics whining about administrative bloat, something they know nothing about but just assume because that’s what all radical republicans do with topics they know nothing about,

Uh, you posted a link to an article about out of control spending on McKinsey consultants and crony appointments at UF. In that context your reaction here appears to just be a trigger response to the term "administrative bloat". But TIL that that McKinsey has built out a whole line of business around higher ed consulting, which I guess should not be surprising. https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/education/how-we-help-clients/higher-education

 

 

Edited August 13 by Anastasis

[mdmost 42697]

Light the son of a bitch on fire.

 

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

Really had no opinion of vouchers but considering billionaires are buying off politicians for it- must be awful.

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

I love the poorly educated!!

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44 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Really had no opinion of vouchers but considering billionaires are buying off politicians for it- must be awful.

And those billionaires are doing it either to A) steer public education money into their private companies (aka "fuck you pay me") or B) for religious reasons.

Both of those things are extremely bad.

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[Nice Guy Eddie 13388]

CyFair ISD offering Bible electives starting next year: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/education/article/concerns-raised-busing-bible-focused-electives-19628825.php

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One community member, Mary Ann Jackson, who identified herself as a Christian Protestant, said that the textbook in question was not, in her opinion, the best one out there, after reviewing it during public viewing last week, and that it might be outdated by the time of the course. 

Can a Bible textbook be outdated in a year? I suppose it doesn't mention the glorious return of the Bible loving Donald Trump to lead us to salvation. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13388]

3 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

I love the poorly educated!!

I don’t know about all of these rankings but US News uses students’ AP scores in grading a state’s and even individual school’s rankings. Not by student name of course. It’s a large part of the ranking by determining college readiness  

the Oklahoma state board of education told US News to f-off when US News asked twice for permission to have the scores sent to them. The ranking ultimately gave Oklahoma a 0 for 30% of the scoring. Oklahoma really showed them US News commies.

normally states and school district like to do whatever is possible to pump up their rankings. OK took a unique approach.

[BurntOrange&White 39272]

19 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I don’t know about all of these rankings but US News uses students’ AP scores in grading a state’s and even individual school’s rankings. Not by student name of course. It’s a large part of the ranking by determining college readiness  

the Oklahoma state board of education told US News to f-off when US News asked twice for permission to have the scores sent to them. The ranking ultimately gave Oklahoma a 0 for 30% of the scoring. Oklahoma really showed them US News commies.

normally states and school district like to do whatever is possible to pump up their rankings. OK took a unique approach.

Retarded approach and Oklahoma is full of retards 

[HornOnTheBayou 8875]

20 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I don’t know about all of these rankings but US News uses students’ AP scores in grading a state’s and even individual school’s rankings. Not by student name of course. It’s a large part of the ranking by determining college readiness  

the Oklahoma state board of education told US News to f-off when US News asked twice for permission to have the scores sent to them. The ranking ultimately gave Oklahoma a 0 for 30% of the scoring. Oklahoma really showed them US News commies.

normally states and school district like to do whatever is possible to pump up their rankings. OK took a unique approach.

Do you have a link for that? Not that I doubt Oklahoma told US News to fuck off, but AP scores by state are not hard to come by. Every AP teacher gets a breakdown of how their students did on every part of the test and compares it to the state and global average.

I know, because I teach AP classes in a school with a large percentage of first and second-generation immigrants. And we always outscore the Texas average and almost always outscore the global average. And I don't say that to brag. I say that to give a nice "Fuck you" to anyone who talks bad about my students and calls their home countries "shitholes".

[Nice Guy Eddie 13388]

2 hours ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

Do you have a link for that? Not that I doubt Oklahoma told US News to fuck off, but AP scores by state are not hard to come by. Every AP teacher gets a breakdown of how their students did on every part of the test and compares it to the state and global average.

I know, because I teach AP classes in a school with a large percentage of first and second-generation immigrants. And we always outscore the Texas average and almost always outscore the global average. And I don't say that to brag. I say that to give a nice "Fuck you" to anyone who talks bad about my students and calls their home countries "shitholes".

https://kfor.com/news/local/u-s-news-osde-denied-access-to-data-skewing-oklahoma-school-rankings/

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Kirk Cameron out there pushing MAGA/Qanon bullshit

 

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6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

And those billionaires are doing it either to A) steer public education money into their private companies (aka "fuck you pay me") or B) for religious reasons.

Both of those things are extremely bad.

This is a nationwide issue. New Yorkers are just as bad here about handing money to private companies through the charter school clown show of a system. Ruining a child’s education just to get a new revenue stream is so on brand for the US as a whole.

[MrBig 5249]

15 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Kirk Cameron out there pushing MAGA/Qanon bullshit

 

Crack Cameron? Guy looks terrible. Not trying to offend any gay people, but he seems totally gay and in the closet and it is becoming more obvious the older he gets. I used to think he was so cool watching Growing Pains, then he completely changed and turned into a religious asshole. Kirk and Candace Cameron should take their MAGA asses back to the Hallmark channel. 

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28 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Kirk Cameron out there pushing MAGA/Qanon bullshit

 

fuck that douche bag. Karma is going to catch up to him

 

[tx 3 putt 75959]

 

[atomheartbevo 89304]

^^^^^^^ This is exactly what’s going to happen in Texas with the decent private schools - it’s just going to give them a lot more money.  They aren’t interested in educating poor kids.

[SydneyCarton 47809]

11 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

CyFair ISD offering Bible electives starting next year: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/education/article/concerns-raised-busing-bible-focused-electives-19628825.php

Can a Bible textbook be outdated in a year? I suppose it doesn't mention the glorious return of the Bible loving Donald Trump to lead us to salvation. 

I’d argue the Bible has been outdated for about, oh, a couple thousand years 

[Chad Fuck 17455]

 

This is my “shocked” face.
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[BurntOrange&White 39272]

https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/indiana-school-vouchers-choice-scholarship-2024-largest-ever-half-billion

 

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7 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

"I can't believe a party led by a convicted scam artist scammed us!"

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

 

 

He should go angle of making sure the Bible is placed in the fiction section of library. 
This way whatever stories are told are no different than “Grimm’s fairy tales” 

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44 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

He should go angle of making sure the Bible is placed in the fiction section of library. 
This way whatever stories are told are no different than “Grimm’s fairy tales” 

That Oklahoma dept of ed said the bible is a significant historical document lol.

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On 8/14/2024 at 1:22 AM, atomheartbevo said:

They aren’t interested in educating poor kids.

Unless they run sub 4.4 or have 48”+ vertical leaps. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13388]

1 hour ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

 

 

You know there was at least one state rep in that room flabbergasted on the statement that teaching the Bible could be construed as indoctrination.

But but how can it be indoctrination when it’s the Truth?

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He put up a YouTube video for those of you who want to see a bit more, and/or pass this around to people you know.

 

[CooterBrown 17852]

There’s no direction on how Christianity should be taught. There’s currently nothing to stop a teacher from tearing down that bullshit in front of the class.

[SydneyCarton 47809]

1 hour ago, CooterBrown said:

There’s no direction on how Christianity should be taught. There’s currently nothing to stop a teacher from tearing down that bullshit in front of the class.

Other than the fact they'll be fired immediately. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13388]

1 hour ago, CooterBrown said:

There’s no direction on how Christianity should be taught. There’s currently nothing to stop a teacher from tearing down that bullshit in front of the class.

 

11 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Other than the fact they'll be fired immediately. 

Exactly. Tell a student that the Bible isn't fact, and start looking for a job by the end of the day for indoctrinating students against Jesus.

[MrBig 5249]

4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

He put up a YouTube video for those of you who want to see a bit more, and/or pass this around to people you know.

 

You see the guy on the very right who leaves, then reappears and starts talking to the guy next to him and is playing with his phone while Talarico is talking? That’s Democrat House Rep. Oscar Longoria from the RGV. He was a co-author (and the only Democrat) to sponsor HB 900 - the book banning bill. He is also one of the Democrats on the Public Education Committee who votes with Republicans a lot of the time. He did not vote for school vouchers last session, but he does take money from pro-voucher groups. I would not be surprised if he is one of the swing votes the Republicans need to get a new school voucher bill passed. 

[TeeDubya 3358]

Suburban Tulsa school superintendent sues Oklahoma State Superintendent Ryan Walters....   

Suit attached.

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