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The destruction of America's public education system


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55 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Actually yes. My daughter has met a Gideon.
 

2 years ago my daughter (no pics, you perverts) spent the summer driving the beer cart at the golf course near by. Made a killing in tips - $300+/day, but it was extremely hot and you have to hustle.
One foursome on the course kept her busy for a couple of hours but didn’t drink alcohol - water, soft drinks, snacks, ice, etc. she probably served these guys 5-6 times during the round and they didn’t tip her once. Not cool but thems the breaks- or so she thought.

She was refilling the cooler with ice next to the parking lot and one of these guys is on his way out to the car. He says, “hey wait, I’ve got something for you,” jogs over to his car, grabs something out and brings her … the Gideons New Testament and shares with her The Good News. 
 

So she’s got that going for her, which is nice. 

Godfuckingdammit.  Back when I was waiting tables, two old ladies who praised my service throughout the meal left me a "tip" - it was a folded up piece of paper that said "your tip is the good news that Jesus is your lord and savior."  I ran out in the parking lot yelling "JESUS DOESN'T PAY MY FUCKING RENT!"

Are "Christians" the fucking worst humans on earth?  Yes.  Yes they are.

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21 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Godfuckingdammit.  Back when I was waiting tables, two old ladies who praised my service throughout the meal left me a "tip" - it was a folded up piece of paper that said "your tip is the good news that Jesus is your lord and savior."  I ran out in the parking lot yelling "JESUS DOESN'T PAY MY FUCKING RENT!"

Are "Christians" the fucking worst humans on earth?  Yes.  Yes they are.

Yeah, how Christ like it is to not only piss people off, but to lie to them that it's money.

Why not money, and the piece of paper with it on the ground, or not part of the actual tip. 

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17 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Actually yes. My daughter has met a Gideon.
 

2 years ago my daughter (no pics, you perverts) spent the summer driving the beer cart at the golf course near by. Made a killing in tips - $300+/day, but it was extremely hot and you have to hustle.
One foursome on the course kept her busy for a couple of hours but didn’t drink alcohol - water, soft drinks, snacks, ice, etc. she probably served these guys 5-6 times during the round and they didn’t tip her once. Not cool but thems the breaks- or so she thought.

She was refilling the cooler with ice next to the parking lot and one of these guys is on his way out to the car. He says, “hey wait, I’ve got something for you,” jogs over to his car, grabs something out and brings her … the Gideons New Testament and shares with her The Good News. 
 

So she’s got that going for her, which is nice. 

I guess this is my cue to report that whoever is dropping copies of the niv study bible on doorsteps in my neighborhood felt compelled to leave us two copies.

OTOH, a half dozen google pages were all but unanimous in gushing praise for this edition. 

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27 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

I guess this is my cue to report that whoever is dropping copies of the niv study bible on doorsteps in my neighborhood felt compelled to leave us two copies.

OTOH, a half dozen google pages were all but unanimous in gushing praise for this edition. 

Sounds like a good time for a book burning. 

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21 hours ago, Iceman said:

Exposure to lunacy is part of education.

Leave it in there.

Apart from the value judgment in "lunacy," this right here.

Part of education is exposure to a wide variety of good and bad ideas.  Most ideas are mixtures of good and bad.  If you're so dead set against "librul ideas" teach your kids critical thinking.

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7 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Apart from the value judgment in "lunacy," this right here.

Part of education is exposure to a wide variety of good and bad ideas.  Most ideas are mixtures of good and bad.  If you're so dead set against "librul ideas" teach your kids critical thinking.

Teach them critical thinking skills and you’ll wind up with liberal kids. 

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7 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Part of education is exposure to a wide variety of good and bad ideas.  Most ideas are mixtures of good and bad.  If you're so dead set against "librul ideas" teach your kids critical thinking.

Let's study on the penis length of donkeys and ejaculate floods of horses and call that science.    Sometimes bad ideas are just bad.   

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Due to anchoring bias, often what people are exposed to first tends to set the stage for their beliefs.   It is why McDonalds' and Churches have playgrounds.   Children should be taught objective facts along with critical thinking skills to go along with their education and to challenge beliefs.   But this is more suited for high-school and beyond.    I liken it to my geology education.  First they teach end-members and put boundaries on things (undergrad) then they teach how those boundaries are not quite so rigid and the limits of the science that defined it (graduate).  

 

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8 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Maybe I don't want to expose my kids to a parent who sacrifices a child to his imaginary friend, who offers his daughters to get gang raped by a crowd, and whose scientific objective knowledge is limited to comparing penises and ejaculate of mammals to humans.     

Your bias against donkey dicks and horse jizz is noted for the record.

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35 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Your bias against donkey dicks and horse jizz is noted for the record.

If we are going to go all out, let's just let each class go out and measure the donkey dick lengths and girths, then calculate the volume, and contrast that with region, diet and breed of donkey and let this be a universal study and contrast with the Bob Stoop Dick Orchard Research Institute findings.   With regards to the latter, just have students visit the Corp of Cadets laundry room for more information.  

 

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12 minutes ago, Pancho said:

First question I’m asking in 3 years, how many districts have actually implemented this. My guess is it will be less than 20 and they’ll all be small ass 2A and 1A districts

 

And it will all be fully funded with recapture dollars from AISD. 

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I’m cool with religious curriculum-  with a twist- do different religions each 6-weeks and that doesn’t mean Baptist- Church of Christ- Methodist for half of the year.  Go around the world, so to speak. 
 

Horrifying to some, I know. 
 

If kids opt out, let them do deeper language arts or others mediums of inspiration/ introspection. 

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1 hour ago, Pancho said:

First question I’m asking in 3 years, how many districts have actually implemented this. My guess is it will be less than 20 and they’ll all be small ass 2A and 1A districts

 

My guess is many more will adopt it.  Let's take Houston ISD... 189K students at $40/student per year + $20/student additional "printing" costs related to it.... so $60/student/year

 = $11,340,000  in extra money.  For districts scrapping for every penny I think it will be hard to not consider it.

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4 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Question for the lawyers—is it legal to only say “bible infused curriculum” or because of religious liberty/freedom can a group come in and say we need to start offing Quran infused curriculum or Book of Mormon infused curriculum?

I feel absolutely sure we're about to find out.

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1 hour ago, Pancho said:

First question I’m asking in 3 years, how many districts have actually implemented this. My guess is it will be less than 20 and they’ll all be small ass 2A and 1A districts

 

I was surprised, but Dripping decided not to implement this.  They stated that " they would not be considering the adoption of any kind of state level curriculum, especially if funding is tied to it."  

 

My understanding is that the whole board feels strongly about local control....which knowing who is on the board is also scary.

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9 hours ago, Iceman said:

I’m cool with religious curriculum-  with a twist- do different religions each 6-weeks and that doesn’t mean Baptist- Church of Christ- Methodist for half of the year.  Go around the world, so to speak. 
 

Horrifying to some, I know. 
 

If kids opt out, let them do deeper language arts or others mediums of inspiration/ introspection. 

We have that already in curriculum. It is called "History".   As a kid, I learned how people worshipped a cow. And as a 10 year old kid, I realized how idiotic religious people are. Religion has no place in education unless it is a brief history lesson.

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Evangelical Churches have started to sing Like a Prayer in services. Having these folks who think a song about fellatio is appropriate for a Sunday service being in charge of education curriculum is absolutely on point for how fucking idiotic this country has become. 

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1 hour ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Evangelical Churches have started to sing Like a Prayer in services. Having these folks who think a song about fellatio is appropriate for a Sunday service being in charge of education curriculum is absolutely on point for how fucking idiotic this country has become. 

Please have a video of this. 

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13 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I got you fam. And of course they have dudes in beanies with sensitive Mumford beards, too. Guitar church, amirite?

 

This I think is just a chorus (not a church). The one I posted is a church. And there about 10 different ones out there. Jimmy Fallon asked Madonna about it. lol.

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SIAP. The Chronicle has a depressing piece on the right wing assault on UT

I’ve already told our youngest to not even apply to Texas (despite having the grades and scores to walk into any degree program on campus). And I know a ton of orange-blooded alums making the same decision, opting to pay higher tuition to send their kids elsewhere.

It’s all very sad. 

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9 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

SIAP. The Chronicle has a depressing piece on the right wing assault on UT

I’ve already told our youngest to not even apply to Texas (despite having the grades and scores to walk into any degree program on campus). And I know a ton of orange-blooded alums making the same decision, opting to pay higher tuition to send their kids elsewhere.

It’s all very sad. 

Jesus. His response to "do you believe in intellectual diversity and freedom of thought?"

 

 

Rufo stiffened. The muscles in his face froze. He spoke and his words came fast, pitched a half-step higher. He said it would have been better if Dewey had never been born. He said that adhering to Dewey’s values creates “an academic life that drifts into witchcraft, into phrenology, into gender studies.” He said academics like Strong who believe in Dewey, “frankly, deserve what’s coming.”

Perhaps Rufo imagined he was being discreet by leaving “what’s coming” vague. But professors paying attention to Texas politics know exactly what it means. Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick has, over the last four years, called for the elimination of tenure, for restricting students’ free speech, and for mandating what professors can teach. Patrick has also pushed for the elimination of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion programs at Texas’ public universities. And, in the case of these programs, “what’s coming” is already here. Texas outlawed DEI in January.

The attacks against higher education have hurt faculty morale. There is anecdotal evidence that they are beginning to damage UT’s ability to attract high-quality professors. An August survey of 950 Texas faculty conducted by the AAUP revealed that two-thirds would not recommend Texas universities to their out-of-state colleagues. More than a quarter plan to interview for jobs elsewhere this year. A similar number have already done so. Half said they have noticed fewer, and less qualified, applicants for open positions. The top reason cited by those looking to leave is the state’s political climate. Anxieties about academic freedom, DEI attacks, access to reproductive care, LGBTQ+ issues, and tenure also made the list.

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