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7 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

When a school district goes to 4-day weeks, do they cut teacher and staff salaries by 20%? That's the bulk of expenses for an ISD. I think that has happened in other states.

In Texas, schools have to teach a certain number of instructional minutes, not a certain number of days.
So a 5-day week where the kids are there for X minutes is just as good for funding as a 4-day week where the kids are there for the same X minutes.

If the school is closed on the 5th day, they don't have to pay for transportation, cafeteria, janitorial service, or as much heating and cooling on that day.  The teacher pay is the same.  The teachers are there 4 days a week instead of 5 days, but for longer days.

Some districts are using the 5th day for teacher planning and training, so the school might be open 5 days a week, but Friday becomes teacher-only day.

 It's not so bad of an idea for high schools that are already on an A/B schedule.  It's probably better for affluent schools with a parent at home to turn Friday into super fun extra-curricular day.  It's harder for poorer schools that rely on 5 days a week of other people watching their kids while parents work.

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Fuck yes you will.

In a totally unrelated story, what's your address so I can send you a prospectus for Brisketexan's FreedomEagleJesusGun Patriot Academy, and investment opportunity for the ages?

This is why I think the rural folks will vote for it. 

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5 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

This is why I think the rural folks will vote for it. 

And I am legit serious about starting a mostly online academy of the sort I proposed.  Because if America is going down the shitter at rapid speed....I might as well get in the toilet bidness and make some money.

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Just now, Brisketexan said:

And I am legit serious about starting a mostly online academy of the sort I proposed.  Because if America is going down the shitter at rapid speed....I might as well get in the toilet bidness and make some money.

Let’s create a Surly Junior High (5-8th) and target the siblings of the kids in the “Can’t get into UT thread”. Immamac could spin that up in a day and be ready to ingest $10k checks when they get released.

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Not a great start to the House Bill

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House Bill 2 — filed by Rep. Brad Buckley, R-Salado — would increase the base amount that schools receive from the state per student each school year from $6,160 per pupil to $6,380.

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Robison said neither the increase to public school funding nor the changes to employee compensation included in HB 2 come close to what schools need. To account for inflation, schools need at least $1,000 more per student than what the basic allotment currently provides, he said.

“This is wholly inadequate. They have to do better and they can do better,” Robison said of lawmakers’ efforts.

Shell out $10k for private school students but offer a measly $200 of additional funding per student for public schools. I'm sure this is all part of the negotiating game, but these are not people interested in having a good public school system. 

I know my district is currently running at about a $13 million deficit this year. Luckily we are well run and have had a previously established fund to take care of future payroll obligations. That will last us until 2026-2027, but this "raise" would only address about 1/3 of the current deficit. 

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On 2/19/2025 at 5:39 PM, Brisketexan said:

And I am legit serious about starting a mostly online academy of the sort I proposed.  Because if America is going down the shitter at rapid speed....I might as well get in the toilet bidness and make some money.

 

Might as well embrace the taliban-ness of it all and begin writing the mission statement for the Super Patriot Alpha Male academy; no females of course.

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On 2/19/2025 at 5:39 PM, Brisketexan said:

And I am legit serious about starting a mostly online academy of the sort I proposed.  Because if America is going down the shitter at rapid speed....I might as well get in the toilet bidness and make some money.

My son has four years of high school ahead of him, and I'm willing to entrust his education and college preparation to your hands.

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My son has four years of high school ahead of him, and I'm willing to entrust his education and college preparation to your hands.

See, folks - that’s what wise parenting looks like.
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4 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

 

Might as well embrace the taliban-ness of it all and begin writing the mission statement for the Super Patriot Alpha Male academy; no females of course.

 No females here

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On 2/19/2025 at 2:53 PM, Captainant said:

It gives them a mechanism to re-segregate their schools. More expensive school == fewer non-whites to sully your precious little angel

On that note, has anyone seen fatty around lately?

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I predict that a large percentage of schools over the next 10 years will implement a 4 day school week.  Certainly the smaller school districts.  

Like any change or program, the implementation is critical and you have to have a Super that is all in, but the results can be pretty good.  There is a Super in Wagoner, OK that is sort of creating the mold for the program.  Wagoner is a fairly small town with enrollment of around 120 per grade.  They are about 60% white and 40% black and hispanic.  Some highlights:

1) They have chosen to take Mondays off.  Partially because a number of doctors offices and other businesses have limited hours on Fridays.  Also, sports, especially football, are still a big thing in small towns in Oklahoma and they wanted the school spirit/pep rallys, homecoming events etc that are usually on Fridays. 

2) They added 10 or so minutes per required class and go from 7:45 to 4:00, Tuesday through Friday.  Same pay.

What they claim is that test scores have gone up across the board, behavior issues have dropped dramatically, truancy has dropped dramatically, teacher retention is greatly improved (they had a teacher leave and without advertising they had more applications than they could get through).  They just had their first class graduate that had been in the 4 day program for the entirety of middle school and high school (7 years) and their scholarship pool was around $5M for the seniors versus $750K 7 years ago.

They have been very creative on working parents.  They had a local non profit offer free babysitting and CPR/safety certification to any students that wanted it and then offered the school as essentially a day care facility manned by students that wanted a little extra money.  So parents had the option of sending kids to the school for the day or part of the day for a very nominal fee.  When they first decided to go to 4 days many parents were upset but after a few months they only had 5 or 6 kids that showed up on Mondays.

The real proof is that they did polling last year and over 85% of students, parents and staff like the 4 day schedule over the 5 day.

As for cost savings, it wasn't much.  The Super estimated they could retain 2 extra teachers with the savings.  They really did t for the benefits mentioned above.  

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1 minute ago, sheeeit said:

I predict that a large percentage of schools over the next 10 years will implement a 4 day school week.  Certainly the smaller school districts.  

Like any change or program, the implementation is critical and you have to have a Super that is all in, but the results can be pretty good.  There is a Super in Wagoner, OK that is sort of creating the mold for the program.  Wagoner is a fairly small town with enrollment of around 120 per grade.  They are about 60% white and 40% black and hispanic.  Some highlights:

1) They have chosen to take Mondays off.  Partially because a number of doctors offices and other businesses have limited hours on Fridays.  Also, sports, especially football, are still a big thing in small towns in Oklahoma and they wanted the school spirit/pep rallys, homecoming events etc that are usually on Fridays. 

2) They added 10 or so minutes per required class and go from 7:45 to 4:00, Tuesday through Friday.  Same pay.

What they claim is that test scores have gone up across the board, behavior issues have dropped dramatically, truancy has dropped dramatically, teacher retention is greatly improved (they had a teacher leave and without advertising they had more applications than they could get through).  They just had their first class graduate that had been in the 4 day program for the entirety of middle school and high school (7 years) and their scholarship pool was around $5M for the seniors versus $750K 7 years ago.

They have been very creative on working parents.  They had a local non profit offer free babysitting and CPR/safety certification to any students that wanted it and then offered the school as essentially a day care facility manned by students that wanted a little extra money.  So parents had the option of sending kids to the school for the day or part of the day for a very nominal fee.  When they first decided to go to 4 days many parents were upset but after a few months they only had 5 or 6 kids that showed up on Mondays.

The real proof is that they did polling last year and over 85% of students, parents and staff like the 4 day schedule over the 5 day.

As for cost savings, it wasn't much.  The Super estimated they could retain 2 extra teachers with the savings.  They really did t for the benefits mentioned above.  

You had me til that last paragraph, now it’s gonna have legislation banning it in Tx

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I’m a college professor on a four day per week class schedule and it’s a great system. In hindsight, it seems obvious to move from a MWF/TTh schedule to a MW/TTh schedule.

As an experienced molder of young minds, I am willing to offer my services in developing a science course for the Patriot Eagle Rifle Academy in Hybrid Domestic Equine Genitalia as well as a series of music courses covering the work of Lee Greenwood.

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32 minutes ago, Mole said:

I’m a college professor on a four day per week class schedule and it’s a great system. In hindsight, it seems obvious to move from a MWF/TTh schedule to a MW/TTh schedule.

As an experienced molder of young minds, I am willing to offer my services in developing a science course for the Patriot Eagle Rifle Academy in Hybrid Domestic Equine Genitalia as well as a series of music courses covering the work of Lee Greenwood.

It's like you've already read my curriculum on "Real 'Murican Music: From 'Proud to be and American' to putting a boot in someone's ass, it's the American way."  But I caution you, the course on Muledick is a senior level seminar.  Sure you're up to it?  There's a drawing component...Thujone has already submitted some criteria.

 

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Nothing like receiving a fund raising solicitation text msg from a family member in a Tx public junior high. “We need new volleyball uniforms, please donate”…. 

her parents are hard maga, real bootstrap types

who moved to this far flung small Tx school district in the name of white/maga flight 

to a million dollar home in a neighborhood of million dollar homes

the football team is spoiled rotten of course

The state rep is Shelley Luther
 

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5 hours ago, bluto said:

Nothing like receiving a fund raising solicitation text msg from a family member in a Tx public junior high. “We need new volleyball uniforms, please donate”…. 

her parents are hard maga, real bootstrap types

who moved to this far flung small Tx school district in the name of white/maga flight 

to a million dollar home in a neighborhood of million dollar homes

the football team is spoiled rotten of course

The state rep is Shelley Luther
 

I would happily ignore a request like that.  And if pressed, I would reply that school districts should be self sufficient with the property tax and state money.

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Senate Bill 26, which would fund teacher pay raises, passed unanimously.  Noticed this detail:

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Teachers in smaller school districts would receive bigger raises. Those with 3-4 years of experience in school districts with 5,000 students or less would receive a $5,000 raise, while those with five or more years of teaching on their resume would earn $10,000. Educators with 3-4 of experience in school districts with more than 5,000 students would earn a $2,500 raise, while those with five or more years of experience would receive $5,500, according to the bill.

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I heard a supporter of the bill justifies the disparity in raises by arguing the need to recruit more teachers to rural communities.  But I can't help but think this is just another way to stick it to public school teachers in the lib/woke metro areas.  

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It is hard as hell to draw teachers in the rural areas.  Not sure why that seems nefarious.  Yeah, don't trust anything, but do you know anyone in rural districts?  They have to pay more already just to compete.

and it's not a straight up racial thing either.  many rural schools are non- white majority students in Texas.

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6 minutes ago, Iceman said:

It is hard as hell to draw teachers in the rural areas.  Not sure why that seems nefarious.  Yeah, don't trust anything, but do you know anyone in rural districts?  They have to pay more already just to compete.

and it's not a straight up racial thing either.  many rural schools are non- white majority students in Texas.

Fair point.  But to counter that, the cost of living in urban districts is exponentially greater than in rural ones.

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It is more expensive, but the supply of young teachers is also exponentially higher.

 

That being said, I'd be more likely to support the same raise across the board.  If we're giving raises, do it the same for the same situations/ experience, regardless of locale.

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13 minutes ago, Iceman said:

It is hard as hell to draw teachers in the rural areas.  Not sure why that seems nefarious.  Yeah, don't trust anything, but do you know anyone in rural districts?  They have to pay more already just to compete.

and it's not a straight up racial thing either.  many rural schools are non- white majority students in Texas.

Fairly industry standard across multiple different industries that you offer more money to go work in shitty areas.

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I almost feel like any debate over the allocation of raises is almost trivial in comparison with the bigger funding/ voucher issues.  I keep getting the feeling we're getting vouchers, regardless of what actually makes sense.

It's idiotic, but gotdam there are folks in love with it.

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3 minutes ago, Iceman said:

I almost feel like any debate over the allocation of raises is almost trivial in comparison with the bigger funding/ voucher issues.  I keep getting the feeling we're getting vouchers, regardless of what actually makes sense.

It's idiotic, but gotdam there are folks in love with it.

Of course we're getting vouchers.  The legislature and governor are just using the pay increases as lube.

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13 minutes ago, Iceman said:

I almost feel like any debate over the allocation of raises is almost trivial in comparison with the bigger funding/ voucher issues.  I keep getting the feeling we're getting vouchers, regardless of what actually makes sense.

It's idiotic, but gotdam there are folks in love with it.

Yes but what is crazy is that a lot of MAGA ultra conservatives are also against the vouchers in a very vocal way. Their anti-voucher views are strikingly similar to Dem views on the issue and they don’t even realize it.

MAGA is just so pissed off about their property taxes that they are against the vouchers. It’s wild reading some comments from people where I agree with their anti-voucher take and then I click on their profiles and see they are MAGA America First people.

This is a golden opportunity to put all our issues aside and forget about abortion and trans rights for a few moments and just unite about shit that impacts ALL of us like the property tax hikes that have happened under Abbott’s watch. It will never happen though. 

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49 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Of course we're getting vouchers.  The legislature and governor are just using the pay increases as lube.

yep, this proposed increase is a distraction.  They are hoping that teachers won't openly be against vouchers since they are getting theirs. 

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It’s all buttfuckery.
Vouchers will rob schools of funding, slowly killing public education. Which is their admitted goal.
Any “funding increase” to public schools won’t make up for what vouchers cost, and won’t catch up on the YEARS of stagnant funding. Which will kill public education, which is their admitted goal.
The shittaculalrly low raises in urban areas will continue to drive teachers away, killing public education, which is their admitted goal.

Every action is intended to kill public schools. Some of them have said the quiet part out loud and admitted it. It’s pure evil, but then, that’s our brand now.

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23 minutes ago, MrBig said:

Yes but what is crazy is that a lot of MAGA ultra conservatives are also against the vouchers in a very vocal way. Their anti-voucher views are strikingly similar to Dem views on the issue and they don’t even realize it.

MAGA is just so pissed off about their property taxes that they are against the vouchers. It’s wild reading some comments from people where I agree with their anti-voucher take and then I click on their profiles and see they are MAGA America First people.

This is a golden opportunity to put all our issues aside and forget about abortion and trans rights for a few moments and just unite about shit that impacts ALL of us like the property tax hikes that have happened under Abbott’s watch. It will never happen though. 

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2 hours ago, South Austin said:

Senate Bill 26, which would fund teacher pay raises, passed unanimously.  Noticed this detail:

KXAN Link

I heard a supporter of the bill justifies the disparity in raises by arguing the need to recruit more teachers to rural communities.  But I can't help but think this is just another way to stick it to public school teachers in the lib/woke metro areas.  

This is to buy rural voters who were resistant due to the loss of funding that will happen due to the voucher programs.   This brings a little more money back to their community/teachers that they can claim as a win, then they can blame the teachers for the lack of performance as the students there get hosed.   Maybe they got a few of the larger rural communities to agree if Ms. Abbott's or FrackBros Charter School agrees to open a branch in their region.   

Yeah, none of this is based on evidence beyond what unscrupulous activities that Abbott and company have done before.   I really fucking hope I am wrong.   I really really want to be wrong.  

 

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gotta understand something on the teacher raise… the state is funding those raises. They can drop that shit from the budget any session. Doing so means the districts will be on the hook to maintain those raises, and we know just how damn rich every school district is. The state is also trying to say this helps alleviate the fact they haven’t done shit with per student allotment and this measure will free up districts to reallocate funds to other needs besides teacher raises. 

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Back on the sports thing with the volleyball jersey post.  I live in the shitshow that is Keller ISD and my son plays VBaseball at Keller HS.  All that said, the annual outlay from the district budget to the Keller HS baseball program is a little over 2K per year.  The coach has been there since '98 (he's a former player on the 75 Longhorn National Title Team, so yea, he's up there) and has said that the program used to get more money from the district when he first started at Keller.  Everything else is supported through fundraising. A dozen baseballs alone costs about 70-80 dollars.  

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On 2/19/2025 at 5:39 PM, Brisketexan said:

And I am legit serious about starting a mostly online academy of the sort I proposed.  Because if America is going down the shitter at rapid speed....I might as well get in the toilet bidness and make some money.

"men for themselves  . . . and maybe their family"

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Are those teacher raises actually funded? I thought I read something that the fine print is that it allows districts to give those raises but they mostly have to pay for it out of existing funding.

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12 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Are those teacher raises actually funded? I thought I read something that the fine print is that it allows districts to give those raises but they mostly have to pay for it out of existing funding.

Creighton said Wednesday that he believes narrowly focusing on teacher pay in the Senate proposal will allow school districts to use more of their base funding — $6,160 for each student — for support staff and not have to worry as much about using those funds for teacher raises.

“That burden will be lifted because we're shifting billions of dollars of compensation to teachers to the state as a responsibility permanently in the budget,” Creighton, the Senate Education Committee's chair, said.

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On 2/27/2025 at 12:06 PM, Iceman said:

It is hard as hell to draw teachers in the rural areas.  Not sure why that seems nefarious.  Yeah, don't trust anything, but do you know anyone in rural districts?  They have to pay more already just to compete.

and it's not a straight up racial thing either.  many rural schools are non- white majority students in Texas.

Aren’t the bigger cities (Austin as an example) already sending our money to many of the smaller school districts?

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10 hours ago, bluto said:

Creighton said Wednesday that he believes narrowly focusing on teacher pay in the Senate proposal will allow school districts to use more of their base funding — $6,160 for each student — for support staff and not have to worry as much about using those funds for teacher raises.

“That burden will be lifted because we're shifting billions of dollars of compensation to teachers to the state as a responsibility permanently in the budget,” Creighton, the Senate Education Committee's chair, said.

The one guarantee is that they will 100% fuck over both the teachers and the school districts when all is said and done.  The State will not keep any end of its deal.  It will leave districts holding the bag.  

Fuckery.  That is the only purpose, it is the only goal, it is the only outcome.  Always.  This is the way.

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5 hours ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

Aren’t the bigger cities (Austin as an example) already sending our money to many of the smaller school districts?

In some cases, yes.  Not across the board. It varies, especially where oil is involved.

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On 2/19/2025 at 1:39 PM, Brisketexan said:

And I am legit serious about starting a mostly online academy of the sort I proposed.  Because if America is going down the shitter at rapid speed....I might as well get in the toilet bidness and make some money.

Open up the Young Man Academy for Men. 

Only young men and only ones that are good at sports. Put it in Austin and pull every good athlete away from LBJ with promises you have no intention of keeping. Take the money and run to a nice spot in the South Pacific and live out your days on a white sand beach with that sweet, sweet voucher money.

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8 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

The one guarantee is that they will 100% fuck over both the teachers and the school districts when all is said and done.  The State will not keep any end of its deal.  It will leave districts holding the bag.  

Fuckery.  That is the only purpose, it is the only goal, it is the only outcome.  Always.  This is the way.

I think I am going to call a former teacher of mine today. I know how she votes, but I also know how she leans on the voucher scam and it’s not anywhere close to what Abbott is pushing.

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On 2/27/2025 at 10:35 AM, Surly Bevo said:

Back on the sports thing with the volleyball jersey post.  I live in the shitshow that is Keller ISD and my son plays VBaseball at Keller HS.  All that said, the annual outlay from the district budget to the Keller HS baseball program is a little over 2K per year.  The coach has been there since '98 (he's a former player on the 75 Longhorn National Title Team, so yea, he's up there) and has said that the program used to get more money from the district when he first started at Keller.  Everything else is supported through fundraising. A dozen baseballs alone costs about 70-80 dollars.  

Just load your son’s team at Keller with Tony Gwynn clones and you won’t have to worry about losing balls often to homers. Get some good ground ball pitchers on the roster and call it a day. Might be able to make it through the season on three dozen balls. Problem solved. Let the players know that anyone that hits a homer is getting charged ten dollars if the ball isn’t retrieved. Same deal for the pitchers. Gotta let these players know you mean business. 

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