Trivia/History thread

[UTexasFight 9,668]

17 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

one of the first baseball trivia questions i remember, from decades ago, but i still like it - what's the fewest amount of pitches you need to throw a complete game.  full game, nothing weather related.  i think i heard it in the 80's or 90's.

 

25?

8 innings. Give up a first pitch homer somewhere along the way.

lose a 1-0 complete game as the visitor.

Edited July 26, 2022 by UTexasFight

[Huckleberry 33,694]

21 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

25?

8 innings. Give up a first pitch homer somewhere along the way.

lose a 1-0 complete game as the visitor.

That would be my answer, too. But technically (and this is a trivia thread so someone has to be the jerk) the answer is zero pitches. Rule 5.04(b)(3) says that the umpire shall call a strike if the batter refuses to take his position in the batter's box. If it happens three times then he's out. Obviously you would never have a situation where that would happen but I think in the official statistics that would be a complete game, 9 IP, 0 pitches, 27 K.

edit - fixed the rule citation, also there are other ways for the batter to be declared out with no pitch thrown. Like switching batter's boxes after the pitcher is ready to pitch.

Edited July 26, 2022 by Huckleberry

[VirginiaLonghorn 4,827]

On 7/11/2022 at 9:00 PM, petscii said:

There was also 11 seconds where I thought Frank Thomas's last name was Hurt.

Mike Mussina would probably agree.  It seemed like Thomas owned Mussina …

[WBT 20,783]

19 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

25?

8 innings. Give up a first pitch homer somewhere along the way.

lose a 1-0 complete game as the visitor.

Yeah that's probably right, neglecting manfred walks.  Relatedly, I attended a game the Astros won 1-0 at home with 25 plate appearances.  The run came on a solo homer by the immortal Matt Downs and the only other base runner was erased on a double play.

https://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2012/B06270HOU2012.htm

I wondered how many times in baseball history that a team had won a 9-inning game with 25 PAs but never could figure out a good way to search for that.

Edited July 26, 2022 by WBT

[Cheeseweasel 26,438]

3 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

That would be my answer, too. But technically (and this is a trivia thread so someone has to be the jerk) the answer is zero pitches. Rule 6.02(c) says that the umpire shall call a strike if the batter refuses to take his position in the batter's box. If it happens three times then he's out. Obviously you would never have a situation where that would happen but I think in the official statistics that would be a complete game, 9 IP, 0 pitches, 27 K.

I can see some insane manager protesting by telling all of his players to do this. Can we dig up Billy Martin to test our theory?

[Huckleberry 33,694]

I edited because I had old rules handy but it's still a rule. Just 5.04(b)(3) now.

[UTexasFight 9,668]

6 minutes ago, WBT said:

Yeah that's probably right, neglecting manfred walks.  Relatedly, I attended a game the Astros won 1-0 at home with 25 plate appearances.  The run came on a solo homer by the immortal Matt Downs and the only other base runner was erased on a double play.

https://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2012/B06270HOU2012.htm

I wondered how many times in baseball history that a team had won a 9-inning game with 25 PAs but never could figure out a good way to search for that.

That box score is incredible

Also:

Time of Game: 1:58

 

[henrygandorf 29,201]

27 minutes ago, Helobious said:

And day before & after the all star game. 

this is correct.

[henrygandorf 29,201]

27 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

25?

8 innings. Give up a first pitch homer somewhere along the way.

lose a 1-0 complete game as the visitor.

this is the correct answer. 

yes, the int'l walk blah blah, but this question is at least 30 years old and always thought it was kinda fun.

spare me all the other obscure rule nonsense, that's not how sports trivia works.

[WBT 20,783]

33 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

That box score is incredible

Also:

Time of Game: 1:58

 

CGSO by the also immortal Lucas Harrell.  What is dead may never die.

[Scraps 13,605]

1 hour ago, WBT said:

Yeah that's probably right, neglecting manfred walks.  Relatedly, I attended a game the Astros won 1-0 at home with 25 plate appearances.  The run came on a solo homer by the immortal Matt Downs and the only other base runner was erased on a double play.

https://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2012/B06270HOU2012.htm

I wondered how many times in baseball history that a team had won a 9-inning game with 25 PAs but never could figure out a good way to search for that.

good old Downs Syndrome.  I sometimes miss those 2011-2013 Astros.....ok maybe not

[WBT 20,783]

4 minutes ago, Scraps said:

good old Downs Syndrome.  I sometimes miss those 2011-2013 Astros.....ok maybe not

I miss buying a $10 ticket and having an entire lower level section to myself almost.

[Beau Vine 55,069]

Who was the second MLB player to undergo Tommy John surgery?

(Astros fans should get this.)

 

[Scraps 13,605]

Who was the second MLB player to undergo Tommy John surgery?
(Astros fans should get this.)
 

Brent Strom

[Beau Vine 55,069]

Just now, Scraps said:

7 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Who was the second MLB player to undergo Tommy John surgery?
(Astros fans should get this.)
 

Brent Strom

"Brent Strom surgery" just doesn't have the same ring, does it?

Edited August 21, 2022 by Beau Vine

[petscii 1,190]

2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

"Brent Strom surgery" just doesn't have the same ring, does it?

Now I have to go back and recheck ALL your posts for hidden messages...  Naw, fuck that noise.

[Beau Vine 55,069]

19 minutes ago, petscii said:

Now I have to go back and recheck ALL your posts for hidden messages...  Naw, fuck that noise.

IIRC, the last one was also about Astros fans.

[Ignatius 4,086]

Only two right-handed hitters ever have had 10 consecutive seasons hitting over .300 and at least 25 homers.

One of them is a “yeah, of course” guy and the other is a “No shit? Well, he WAS a badass” guy….

Edited August 22, 2022 by Ignatius

[Beau Vine 55,069]

51 minutes ago, Ignatius said:

Only two right-handed hitters ever have had 10 consecutive seasons hitting over .300 and at least 25 homers.

One of them is a “yeah, of course” guy and the other is a “No shit? Well, he WAS a badass” guy….

One of them is Vlad, IIRC.  

I thought for sure the other would be Musial, but he had a 21-HR year sprinkled in.  Pujols.

Edited August 22, 2022 by Beau Vine

[Scraps 13,605]

Not Jeter

[Scraps 13,605]

One of them is Vlad, IIRC.  
I thought for sure the other would be Musial, but he had a 21-HR year sprinkled in.  Pujols.

Pujols should have had 11 but batted .299 the 11th season lol

And it looks like Vlady Sr. did have 11straight

[Ignatius 4,086]

Yep, Vlad and Lou Gehrig. Willie Mays had like 1 season where he hit .297 or something like that otherwise he’d had killed this category

[Beau Vine 55,069]

19 hours ago, Ignatius said:

Only two right-handed hitters ever have had 10 consecutive seasons hitting over .300 and at least 25 homers.

 

 

1 hour ago, Ignatius said:

Yep, Vlad and Lou Gehrig. Willie Mays had like 1 season where he hit .297 or something like that otherwise he’d had killed this category

How is Pujols not a correct answer?  And how is Gehrig a correct answer, considering he wasn't a RH hitter?

Edited August 23, 2022 by Beau Vine

[Beau Vine 55,069]

Also just heard an announcer say that Pujols is tied with Bonds for #1 on Most Different Pitchers Homered Off Of at 459 IIRC.  

Pretty cool.

[Helobious 9,516]

1 hour ago, Ignatius said:

Yep, Vlad and Lou Gehrig. Willie Mays had like 1 season where he hit .297 or something like that otherwise he’d had killed this category

Gehrig wasn’t a righty. That’s a pretty unforgivable mistake imo. How do you not know that.

[Scraps 13,605]

2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Also just heard an announcer say that Pujols is tied with Bonds for #1 on Most Different Pitchers Homered Off Of at 459 IIRC.  

Pretty cool.

think it was 449 but yeah 

[Ignatius 4,086]

3 hours ago, Helobious said:

Gehrig wasn’t a righty. That’s a pretty unforgivable mistake imo. How do you not know that.

Lol delete post, burn user alive - like Beau Vine said, it’s Pujols. There’s some stat to which the answer is Vlad and Gehrig but clearly not this one. 
 

today, I consider myself the dumbest man on the face of the earth…

Edited August 23, 2022 by Ignatius

[strangulation! 1,716]

21 minutes ago, Ignatius said:

There’s some stat to which the answer is Vlad and Gehrig but clearly not this one. 

what are two people that have never been in my kitchen?

[Beau Vine 55,069]

1 hour ago, strangulation! said:

what are two people that have never been in my kitchen?

Be that as it may, Alex, those people have never been in my kitchen!

[Scraps 13,605]

This is probably going to be pretty simple(can only see possibly one guy being a problem, then again Eduardo Perez is struggling to answer it in 5 mins now....he seems to be on par with the intelligence level of many surly posters), but heard this this morning:

Name the 10 players who have at least 2 seasons of 50+ homers 

Obviously Judge joined it last night so there are 9 more

Edited August 30, 2022 by Scraps

[Helobious 9,516]

Trying to wrap my head around the fact that only 10 players have ever done that.

[WBT 20,783]

One guy not on the list...Barry Bonds

[WBT 20,783]

To start it off with the easy ones, Ruth, Mantle, McGwire, Sosa.  And Arod.

Edited August 30, 2022 by WBT

[strangulation! 1,716]

arod, mays, griffey

[WBT 20,783]

Jimmie Foxx

So only 1 more?

Edited August 30, 2022 by WBT

[ztejas 43,787]

Thome?

Nope. 52, 49, 47. 

Edited August 30, 2022 by ztejas

[Beau Vine 55,069]

Kiner

[ztejas 43,787]

2 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Kiner

IKF? Don't think he's done that yet. Not a big power guy. 

[Scraps 13,605]

Yeah Kiner was really the only curveball

[dcar00 14,633]

Name the 6 players to lead their league in batting average and stolen bases in the same season.  5 are pre 1950.

Edited September 29, 2022 by dcar00

[Scraps 13,605]

Uh Ty Cobb

[Scraps 13,605]

Altuve should be one also

[Scraps 13,605]

Jackie robinson would be my last guess

Probably spent for me

[dcar00 14,633]

 

Just now, Scraps said:

Jackie robinson would be my last guess

Probably spent for me

Cobb

Altuve

Robinson

[dcar00 14,633]

Altuve would make it 7.  I didn't have him in the original 6.  there is one more post 1950.

[Scraps 13,605]

I mean i got Nap Lajoie and Tris Speaker as random ass guesses but not nearly as confident in those

[Scraps 13,605]

Altuve would make it 7.  I didn't have him in the original 6.  there is one more post 1950.

Well in that case i got one more guess...Willie Mays

[dcar00 14,633]

2 minutes ago, Scraps said:

I mean i got Nap Lajoie and Tris Speaker as random ass guesses but not nearly as confident in those

nope but speaker is in the right time frame for 2 of them.

speaker is kind of crazy.  dude is #5 all time BA  at .345 and only lead the league once.

2 minutes ago, Scraps said:

10 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

Altuve would make it 7.  I didn't have him in the original 6.  there is one more post 1950.

Well in that case i got one more guess...Willie Mays

nope on Mays lead both multiple times but never the same season.

[shadow_operative2.0 16,071]

Honus 

[dcar00 14,633]

11 minutes ago, shadow_operative2.0 said:

Honus 

yep