The James Webb Space Telescope Thread

[faps 806]

There is no fucking chance we are alone.

[Bevo 13,523]

1 minute ago, faps said:

There is no fucking chance we are alone.

Well, if we are alone, it is an awful waste of space.

[Brisketexan 104,550]

There is no fucking chance we are alone.

Faps’ sore, probed anus backs this up.

[sidis 9,732]

some black hole work analysis in stephan's quintet.

mid infrared image from the quintet.

 

the supermassive black hole at the top got the spectroscopy treatment both right in the middle and the gas around it.  closer to the middle, the less elemental diversity and just molecular hydrogen and various silicates.

 

breakdown of the hydrogen.

 

moving quickly.

[Cheeseweasel 26,437]

MUUUUUUUUUUURRRRPH!

[Pato del Muerto 52,338]

So that’s almost 450,000 mph. 

[ClubWhatever 12,087]

1 hour ago, sidis said:

from the original image, one of the more distant objects that was resolved had a redshift indicating a distance of 13.1 billion light years. 

Assuming there’s an equally far/old object in the opposite direction from us, that means there are objects at least 26B light years apart, right?  How did the universe get so large in only ~14B years? That seems to imply relative speeds greater than the speed of light.  This stuff might be too hard for me to understand. 

[sidis 9,732]

9 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So that’s almost 450,000 mph. 

correct...for context, space shuttles orbiting earth have a velocity of about 17,800 mph.

[sidis 9,732]

Just now, ClubWhatever said:

Assuming there’s an equally far/old object in the opposite direction from us, that means there are objects at least 26B light years apart, right?  How did the universe get so large in only ~14B years? That seems to imply relative speeds greater than the speed of light.  This stuff might be too hard for me to understand. 

what you are asking is actually quite complicated...and has a lot to do with why this guy is a household name. 

it is very difficult to wrap our brains around it but when you consider concepts of 13.1 billion light years, you have to think of things not in terms of just distance/size but also in terms of time.  you have to remember that what you are looking at is 13 billion years ago and not reflective of where it actually is.  and things start getting really funny and you start getting into einstein's cosmological constant which then evolves ultimately into accelerating and inflationary dark energy causing expansion at greater than the speed of light.  you also have to wrap your head around the concept of large scale structures such as the observable universe and the fact that there is a limit to observable signals.  stuff that is impossible to understand through message boards.

if interested, start with the cosmic microwave background.

 

https://www.space.com/33892-cosmic-microwave-background.html

then large scale structures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe#Large-scale_structure

ultimately, we believe the observable universe at this point has a radius of approximately 46.5 billion light years of DISTANCE...but don't conflate that with time.

 

 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,668]

and that scientist's name?  Albert Einstein.   

. . .wait.

[conVINCEd 21,468]

I prefer old, goofy Einstein. 

[Quagmire 2,146]

No way OP scores with babes

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1 hour ago, sidis said:

some black hole work analysis in stephan's quintet.

mid infrared image from the quintet.

 

If it were up to me I would spend the entire nasa budget on telescopes and sending rovers to planets & moons.  Looking at these pictures never gets old.  It's ancient transcendent universe art.

[sidis 9,732]

32 minutes ago, Quagmire said:

No way OP scores with babes

OP is a poser, armchair astrophysicist and scores with only the hottest of babes. 

18 minutes ago, axiom of foundation said:

If it were up to me I would spend the entire nasa budget on telescopes and sending rovers to planets & moons.  Looking at these pictures never gets old.  It's ancient transcendent universe art.

Indeed. Sadly the entire budget for NASA is $25 billion this year.

[ClubWhatever 12,087]

4 hours ago, faps said:

There is no fucking chance we are alone.

Agreed.  There are 200 billion trillion stars.  It would be unbelievably far fetched for exactly one of those to have spawned a planet with life on an evolutionary scale.  

[Captain Ron 12,793]

 

[horngrad03 1,147]

3 hours ago, sidis said:

what you are asking is actually quite complicated...and has a lot to do with why this guy is a household name. 

it is very difficult to wrap our brains around it but when you consider concepts of 13.1 billion light years, you have to think of things not in terms of just distance/size but also in terms of time.  you have to remember that what you are looking at is 13 billion years ago and not reflective of where it actually is.  and things start getting really funny and you start getting into einstein's cosmological constant which then evolves ultimately into accelerating and inflationary dark energy causing expansion at greater than the speed of light.  you also have to wrap your head around the concept of large scale structures such as the observable universe and the fact that there is a limit to observable signals.  stuff that is impossible to understand through message boards.

if interested, start with the cosmic microwave background.

 

https://www.space.com/33892-cosmic-microwave-background.html

then large scale structures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe#Large-scale_structure

ultimately, we believe the observable universe at this point has a radius of approximately 46.5 billion light years of DISTANCE...but don't conflate that with time.

 

 

What if C-A-T.....really spelled DOG?

[Bookman 4,610]

26 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

Agreed.  There are 200 billion trillion stars.  It would be unbelievably far fetched for exactly one of those to have spawned a planet with life on an evolutionary scale.  

Still, OU sucks across the universe.

[Prepuce of Doom 20,983]

 

[Post Oak 20,183]

I only understand about 10% of what's going on here but I am excited.

[Nueces River Rat 5,529]

[Hermanator 6,932]

The spectrometry aspect is really intriguing. Over time if they can isolate some rocky worlds and catch them with elevated levels of stuff like oxygen and nitrogen it really points to high probabilities of life. Get lucky and catch signatures of fluorocarbon and we're staring at intelligence. 

[Hate 20,103]

7 hours ago, faps said:

There is no fucking chance we are alone.

It's mathematically impossible at this point...and really within our own galaxy this is true. 

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[52-80 19,079]

12 hours ago, faps said:

There is no fucking chance we are alone.

this word order makes more sense

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4,968]

So what kind of image could we expect if we point this baby at Proxima Centauri? The first thing I would be doing if I was in charge of this giant reverse space laser is trying to see what kind of information I could gather on the planets orbiting our nearest stars.

[sidis 9,732]

20 hours ago, Ten Bears said:

Can this thing image close-up stars too?  They could take a look at what happened to Alpha Centauri like 4.5 years ago.

 

5 hours ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

So what kind of image could we expect if we point this baby at Proxima Centauri? The first thing I would be doing if I was in charge of this giant reverse space laser is trying to see what kind of information I could gather on the planets orbiting our nearest stars.

an image of our neighboring stars will not be terribly exciting...even with jwst.  it won't look terribly different than the hubble image below.  they will just look like super bright dots.  from an "imaging" perspective, the exciting use of jwst is looking deeper and deeper into space/time, not so much the local area.

however, the extreme jump forward in the sensitivity of the measurement tools is going to give us a ton of more scientific insight into what's going on next door.  for example, there are tons of observations on the proxima centauri a, b, c, and d exoplanets but we still know very little about what's actually going on there.  researchers have theorized that proxima b has potential for an earth like planet in a habitable zone orbit that could have water.  but proxima centauri is a tiny star (even relative to our sun - it's a red dwarf) and has a ton of intense flares so we have no idea if b has an atmosphere that has been blown to shreds by intense electromagnetic flares.  b is 5% as far away from the proxima centauri star as we are from the sun but given the relative weakness of the star, it might be earth like...despite likely being in tidal lock.  if it has water, we have no idea beyond just theories based on previous observation and measurement.  that is going to change with jwst.  once the AC/PC researchers get their crack at some jswt time, we are going to learn everything we want to know about those four exoplanets around PC.  

the imagery is certainly sexier and more effective at capturing the imagination of the public...but when they point jwst at the AC system, it won't be for imagery.  it will be for so much more.

 

 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,668]

5 hours ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

space laser

 

look at all those individual stars.  notice something?  six points.  i think we can safely conclude. . . 

jewish space lasers.

[sidis 9,732]

11 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

 

look at all those individual stars.  notice something?  six points.  i think we can safely conclude. . . 

jewish space lasers.

despite the efforts of our more addlepated representatives and the impeding dipshittery that will not sarcastically follow, if you want to understand why jwst has six diffraction spikes and hubble has four, this dude did a pretty deep dive on it.

https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/james-webb-spikes/

[smuggs 9,342]

2 hours ago, sidis said:

 

Edited July 13, 2022 by smuggs

[Jersey Man10 3,506]

Lmao that’s the first thing I thought of too.

[Goredho 17,345]

I want off this planet, so I am totally geeking out on all the star pr0n.

[Braff Zacklin 13,408]

10 hours ago, Goredho said:

I want off this planet, so I am totally geeking out on all the star pr0n.

 

[thunderlounge 7,753]

Was waiting for it to morph into dickbutt.
 

Disappoint. 

[Prepuce of Doom 20,983]

[Post Oak 20,183]

About to start this. PBS and Nova always do a great job.

https://www.pbs.org/video/ultimate-space-telescope-gunryt/

 

Edited July 15, 2022 by Post Oak

[Goredho 17,345]

This cracked me up...

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[The University 851]

On 7/11/2022 at 5:34 PM, sidis said:

reminds me of the backdrops from those late 50's technicolor sci-fi Sunday mid-day movies on the shittier uhf channels. the only thing missing is the perspective-challenged flying saucer wobbling back and forth on a thin wire that was abruptly interrupted by a brut 33 deodorant ad.

Edited July 16, 2022 by The University

[Braff Zacklin 13,408]

A test of Webb's tracking systems yielded this image of Jupiter:

Per a NASA presser, the image was taken during the testing buildup prior to last Tuesday's image releases. Webb utilized its NIRCam (near-infrared?) instrument's short-wavelength filter to highlight the planet's bands and Great Red Spot.

Higher res version here:

Spoiler

 

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[89Horn 1,492]

Obligatory to apply as response to several posts:
 

[Braff Zacklin 13,408]

 

[Brisketexan 104,550]

35 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

 

Maybe they wanted to stay hidden.  Great.  Now you've awakened them and pissed them off.  Just wonderful.

[Cajun 11,675]

On 7/11/2022 at 7:26 PM, DaggerHorns said:

1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

1 Quintillion

 

[Prepuce of Doom 20,983]

 

[Surly Bevo 24,695]

29 minutes ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

 

Space is pretty spicy when it gets to Uranus.

[Armybrat 40,721]

Pluto is not impressed.

[HouTex 1,850]

2 hours ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

 

This is hilarious.  Sucks that he felt the need to apologize.  

[Elvis 3,356]

Is Webb looking at my sausage right now?