omicron and monkeypox ain't enough: polio says hi

[elfenix 34223]

 

 

[chainsaw 9857]

Medical people is this going to matter for normal people?

[Samson's Wig 3190]

Fuck every last anti-vax moron.  Fuck 'em.

[Gengs1 2583]

FAFO

[Kringelbert Fishtybuns 943]

Well, he can still write 156 episodes of Branded before getting any sort of true health problems.

Edited July 22, 2022 by Kringelbert Fishtybuns

[Hermanator 7032]

35 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Medical people is this going to matter for normal people?

Probably not. A large part of the developing, I mean poverty stricken, world isn't vaxxed and polio never stopped going around. Gotta think the odds of a mutation affecting the non idiots and non spawn of idiots is low. Pakistan is rife with polio. 

Edited July 22, 2022 by Hermanator

[achooloco 1067]

1 hour ago, Samson's Wig said:

Fuck every last anti-vax moron.  Fuck 'em.

Seriously, this spans the political spectrum so fuck them all. 
 

edit: but yeah no cr but fuck them all.

Edited July 22, 2022 by achooloco

[Clackles 276]

1 hour ago, Kringelbert Fishtybuns said:

Well, he can still write 156 episodes of Branded before getting any sort of true health problems.

Bulk of the series.

[Degenerate Gardner 4085]

Bookmarking here for return of the Black Death. I wish we’d sprung for the package deal with the Enlightenment, but times are tight.

Edited July 22, 2022 by Degenerate Gardner

[Biff Tannen 45663]

2 hours ago, Kringelbert Fishtybuns said:

Well, he can still write 156 episodes of Branded before getting any sort of true health problems.

You're killing your father Polio!

[Wally Fairway 5539]

3 hours ago, chainsaw said:

Medical people is this going to matter for normal people?

Do you know any normal people?

[Homercles 10205]

Oh no, no…

 

 

 

…he has health problems 

[Nicole44 22057]

I mean we all know what’s coming next…all the aliens will show up. And some butthole will fire a weapon at a visitor spacecraft and inadvertently trigger interstellar war. We’re all going to die. I saw the first X-Files movie and I know all the top leaders have already made deals with these fuckers. We’re all screwed. This is why we need term limits. 
 

 

 

[GreenspointTexas 9598]

11 hours ago, Clackles said:

Bulk of the series.

Not exactly a lightweight.

[Pato del Muerto 52485]

11 hours ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

Bookmarking here for return of the Black Death. I wish we’d sprung for the package deal with the Enlightenment, but times are tight.

Bubonic plague is still around and cases pop up now and then. But penicillin kills it so it’s not a big deal. 

[Sawbonz 27534]

 

[Moby Ric 2058]

While polio is pretty much non existent in the USA it is not in other parts of the world, like the 3rd world countries.

Gee I wonder how these kinds of diseases get here?  Some of you were saying something about the unvaxed?

[Texzilla58 4731]

I hope that sugar cube vax I ate 58 years ago still works against the polio. I remember folks in iron lungs.

[Nicole44 22057]

5 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:

I hope that sugar cube vax I ate 58 years ago still works against the polio. I remember folks in iron lungs.

Ask @Armybrat he’d probably know. I don’t have a clue…not a fucking clue.

[bolverk 29652]

19 minutes ago, Moby Ric said:

While polio is pretty much non existent in the USA it is not in other parts of the world, like the 3rd world countries.

Gee I wonder how these kinds of diseases get here?  Some of you were saying something about the unvaxed?

You might want to read up a little on Rockland County, NY.

[Js1 85270]

13 minutes ago, bolverk said:

You might want to read up a little on Rockland County, NY.

Nope, let's go right for the immigrants!!!!!!! 

[Biff Tannen 45663]

Holy shit dude.

[Hpara759 1778]

26 minutes ago, bolverk said:

You might want to read up a little on Rockland County, NY.

ok, so its a bunch of rich folks....that hired a unvaxed immigrant. It could happen   🙂

[Hpara759 1778]

I keep waiting for smallpox to make a return

[Pato del Muerto 52485]

57 minutes ago, Moby Ric said:

While polio is pretty much non existent in the USA it is not in other parts of the world, like the 3rd world countries.

Gee I wonder how these kinds of diseases get here?  Some of you were saying something about the unvaxed?

Or- and stay with me here- Americans fly to other parts of the world for reasons and bring it back with them. 
 

one example to get a little more specific- ultra Christian fundies don’t believe in vaccinations but do believe in going to all parts of the world to try and sell Jesus to them. 
 

or, maybe the fact that it’s only one case of polio proves that illegal immigration isn’t a big issue. 

Edited July 22, 2022 by Pato del Muerto

[Moby Ric 2058]

It is clear to many that a lot of you ignore reality and choose to bend reality to continue to live in fantasyland.  Ah fantasyland, where the biggest threats are that we can't find the thermostat for the planet, and a tailgate party.

[Hammerin Hank 1225]

9 minutes ago, Moby Ric said:

It is clear to many that a lot of you ignore reality and choose to bend reality to continue to live in fantasyland.  Ah fantasyland, where the biggest threats are that we can't find the thermostat for the planet, and a tailgate party.

There’s 1 case in New York, and none reported in any of the border states. Who’s actually ignoring reality here?

[Moby Ric 2058]

21 minutes ago, Hammerin Hank said:

There’s 1 case in New York, and none reported in any of the border states. Who’s actually ignoring reality here?

Certain folks that are in denial and think there are no repercussions for ignoring a very real crisis at the southern border.  Incoming disease is just one issue.

Not going to go CR here.  Just living in the real world.

[Biff Tannen 45663]

3 minutes ago, Moby Ric said:

Certain folks that are in denial and think there are no repercussions for ignoring a very real crisis at the southern border.  Incoming disease is just one issue.

Not going to go CR here.  Just living in the real world.

My family was murdered by illegal immigrants just last night.

[Helobious 9456]

7 minutes ago, Moby Ric said:

Certain folks that are in denial and think there are no repercussions for ignoring a very real crisis at the southern border.  Incoming disease is just one issue.

Not going to go CR here.  Just living in the real world.

Illegal immigration isn’t a new thing though, it’s been happening at a high rate for decades. You’d think you’d see the border states rife with polio if they were really bringing in so much disease. But instead it’s 0 cases in over a decade. That’s the reality.

[Dahobbs 17522]

2 hours ago, Moby Ric said:

While polio is pretty much non existent in the USA it is not in other parts of the world, like the 3rd world countries.

Gee I wonder how these kinds of diseases get here?  Some of you were saying something about the unvaxed?

 

55 minutes ago, Moby Ric said:

It is clear to many that a lot of you ignore reality and choose to bend reality to continue to live in fantasyland.  Ah fantasyland, where the biggest threats are that we can't find the thermostat for the planet, and a tailgate party.

 

17 minutes ago, Moby Ric said:

Certain folks that are in denial and think there are no repercussions for ignoring a very real crisis at the southern border.  Incoming disease is just one issue.

Not going to go CR here.  Just living in the real world.

Ignorance and hate are fun. Anyway, we know we have a good understanding of how this infection happened. This strain of polio is vaccine derived. That means that someone from another country that still uses polio vaccines with active, but weakened virus, developed a sufficient enough infection to shed virus (in the US we only use vaccines inactive virus largely because the virus is considered eradicated here). That person was protected from severe disease. But, they can still infect other individuals given low levels of vaccination and poor hygiene. In this case, this orthodox Jewish community in NY has very low levels of vaccination. The young adult here was infected and ultimately paralyzed because of their unvaccinated status. This is a self-made problem, not a immigration problem. 

https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/07/polio-detected-in-us-in-same-ny-county-with-explosive-measles-outbreak-in-2019/
 

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How this happens

Oral polio vaccines are relatively cheap and highly effective at preventing paralytic polio. And, they also can prevent transmission. Because the vaccine contains a weakened virus that can still replicate in the intestines, they can generate strong immune responses in the gut that block wild poliovirus from replicating there in the event of a future infection. This means that in areas where wild polio is still a threat, the vaccine can prevent vaccinated people from being asymptomatic virus shedders.

The downside is that because the weakened vaccine virus can replicate in the gut, vaccinated people can shed the vaccine virus, which can spread if the conditions are right, mutate, and regain the ability to cause disease.

Here's how that happens: Polioviruses are transmitted through oral-oral or fecal-oral route, which means they spread because of poor hygiene—specifically, unwashed hands after bathroom use and directly sharing saliva—or unsanitary conditions, such as if food and drinking water are contaminated with feces. In the event that an oral vaccine is used in a setting with poor hygiene or unsanitary conditions, plus low vaccination rates, the vaccine virus can spread from unvaccinated person to unvaccinated person, picking up mutations along with way, until it regains the ability to cause disease. At this point, it's dubbed a VDPV.

By contrast, the inactivated vaccines use viruses that are not capable of replicating. Thus, they don't run the risk of generating and spreading infectious viruses. But, they are more expensive—prohibitively more expensive for some countries—and they don't produce strong immune responses in the gut, which could allow for wild poliovirus to replicate there and spread.

Finding a VDPD in the US suggests that the virus "may have originated in a location outside of the US where [oral polio vaccine] is administered, since revertant strains cannot emerge from inactivated vaccines," used in the US, the New York State Department of Health said in a statement Thursday.

 

 

 

But sure, keep with the hate and ignorance. It'll do wonders for you I'm sure. 

Edited July 22, 2022 by Dahobbs

[Dennis Taylor 18809]

7 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Illegal immigration isn’t a new thing though, it’s been happening at a high rate for decades. You’d think you’d see the border states rife with polio if they were really bringing in so much disease. But instead it’s 0 cases in over a decade. That’s the reality.

Cool...now do fentanyl

[Dahobbs 17522]

Also, more information on scale of polio infections worldwide. This isn't 

Quote

 

The annual number of wild poliovirus cases has declined by more than 99.9% worldwide from an estimated 350,000 in 1988 when the Global Polio Eradication Initiative was launched.

Of the three serotypes of wild poliovirus, type 2 was certified as eradicated in 2015 and type 3 was certified as eradicated in 2019.

The last evidence of wild poliovirus type 1 transmission in Nigeria was in September 2016, leaving only two polio-endemic countries (having never interrupted the transmission of indigenous wild poliovirus type 1), which are Afghanistan and Pakistan.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/polio/progress/index.htm

But sure, @Moby Ric, it is all because of illegal immigration at our southern border 🙄

[Helobious 9456]

20 minutes ago, Dennis Taylor said:

Cool...now do fentanyl

Not sure what that has to do with polio. And it turns out this story had nothing to do with illegal immigration. But please you & moby go ahead and make everything into a political discussion. 

[Pescado_Rojo 19413]

Per the WHO, rates of Polio vaccination by country in 2019 (Chart goes to 2020, but I think we know what happened in 2020 that might skew rates):

Canada: 91% (mild upward trend from mid-80% for the previous 20 years)

El Salvador: 81% (trending down annually from 99% in 2007)

Guatemala: 79% (also trending down from mid-90s in 2007)

Mexico: 81%: (Trending down from 99% in 2012)

United States: 93% (consistently mid-90s since forever)

Those vaccination rates are pretty consistent with the rest of the developed world, so kindly fuck off with your racist, anti-immigrant bullshit. 

https://apps.who.int/gho/data/node.main.A831?lang=en

 

[Dennis Taylor 18809]

1 minute ago, Helobious said:

Not sure what that has to do with polio. And it turns out this story had nothing to do with illegal immigration. But please you & moby go ahead and make everything into a political discussion. 

Your post says illegal immigration has nothing to do with polio, which I agree with.  I asked you if there is any connection between fentanyl and illegal immigration.  That's not political 

[Helobious 9456]

Just now, Dennis Taylor said:

Your post says illegal immigration has nothing to do with polio, which I agree with.  I asked you if there is any connection between fentanyl and illegal immigration.  That's not political 

That’s cool, last I checked this thread was about polio. You should start a fentanyl thread if you want to talk about that. 

[Moby Ric 2058]

Racist call out page 1.  Nice.  I did not know that being concerned about the safety of the country's citizens and immigrants was racist.  Thanks for clearing that up for me.

liberals calling anyone racist is just the dumbest thing ever.

Anyhow, back to polio.  

 

Polio case confirmed in New York state, health-care providers told to look for more infections

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• New York state confirmed a case of polio.
• It was believed to have originated outside the U.S.
• The individual was an unvaccinated adult who suffered paralysis and was hospitalized.
• The chain of infection may have started with someone who received the oral polio vaccine, which uses a live but mild virus strain that can still spread.
• The U.S. no longer uses the oral polio vaccine, but it is still administered abroad.

Edited July 22, 2022 by Moby Ric

[Foosters 17823]

This is Moby Ric "not going CR" guys. Why do you keep making him go CR?

[Hefeweizen 5310]

Jesus Christ this moby dickhead can’t even let me get polio in peace.

Edited July 22, 2022 by Hefeweizen

[Moby Ric 2058]

I don't neg much , but blanket carpet negging by one poster will get it from me.

i also equate the lib neg as a sign truth being denied by you.

Edited July 22, 2022 by Moby Ric

[Helobious 9456]

5 minutes ago, Moby Ric said:

Racist call out page 1.  Nice.  I did not know that being concerned about the safety of the country's citizens and immigrants was racist.  Thanks for clearing that up for me.

liberals calling anyone racist is just the dumbest thing ever.

Anyhow, back to polio.  

What made you jump to the conclusion that this orthodox Jewish man in New York got polio from illegal immigrants? Honest question. 

[Hefeweizen 5310]

Just now, Moby Ric said:

I don't neg much , but blanket carpet negging by one poster will get it from me.

In case it wasn’t clear the cut of your jib is all wrong and it’s probably the illegals fault!

[Moby Ric 2058]

1 minute ago, Helobious said:

What made you jump to the conclusion that this orthodox Jewish man in New York got polio from illegal immigrants? Honest question. 

That is not at all what I said.  I did say that infectious diseases coming into this country have easy access via the massive amounts of illegal aliens crossing the border everyday that are un vaccinated against diseases that have mostly been eradicated in the US.  Polio is just a conversation starter.

[Moby Ric 2058]

Now the carpet negs form another idiot who is not even participating.  More hiding from the real world.

[immamac 42835]

Money Ric is banned for a month. Anyone else that wants to start touting racist conspiracy theory shit can join him. 

[Helobious 9456]

8 minutes ago, Moby Ric said:

Now the carpet negs form another idiot who is not even participating.  More hiding from the real world.

Why was it a conversation starter? Polio isn’t endemic anywhere outside of the Middle East & Africa, whereas most illegals come from central & South America, and Mexico. Plus there are fewer than 300 known polio cases worldwide, it isn’t exactly tearing through anywhere. 
 

well get back to me in a month I guess.

Edited July 22, 2022 by Helobious

[Goredho 17394]

16 minutes ago, immamac said:

Money Ric is banned for a month. Anyone else that wants to start touting racist conspiracy theory shit can join him. 

[Js1 85270]

28 minutes ago, Moby Ric said:

I don't neg much , but blanket carpet negging by one poster will get it from me.

i also equate the lib neg as a sign truth being denied by you.

You’re not the victim here, you racist 

[Guest]

17 hours ago, Samson's Wig said:

Fuck every last anti-vax moron.  Fuck 'em.

Yep.  It’s astounding how easily duped people are.