Austin FC

[wood 11185]

[jimmyjazz 45571]

Alter reps my district -- she doesn't make me want to vomit.  She's at least legitimately thoughtful.

Pool is unbelievable.  She's not even pretending to give a shit what her constituents want.  She's also seemingly dumb as a box of hammers.

[Pasken 1309]

So council just passed an amendment on performance that PSV was against 6-4. Not sure what it does to the deal.

[wood 11185]

20 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Alter reps my district -- she doesn't make me want to vomit.  She's at least legitimately thoughtful.

Pool is unbelievable.  She's not even pretending to give a shit what her constituents want.  She's also seemingly dumb as a box of hammers.

Yeah apparently Pool wouldn't even visit neighborhood groups in her own district, but went to Columbus to hear their concerns ... no doubt on someone else's dime. Hmmm...who might that be?

 

And Alter now is pushing her amendment to more than double the rent PSV pays after building the stadium.

[futureman 22418]

22 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

  She's not even pretending to give a shit what her constituents want.  

plenty of her constituents don’t want this stupid shit coming to their city. 

[jimmyjazz 45571]

25 minutes ago, futureman said:

plenty of her constituents don’t want this stupid shit coming to their city. 

Well, that's a fucking revelation.  Up until now I thought it was unanimous that everybody wanted it.

[Dirk X West 772]

25 minutes ago, futureman said:

plenty of her constituents don’t want this stupid shit coming to their city. 

I live in her district, and my impression is that many more want it, but those against, as usual, are making more noise.

[wood 11185]

Troxclair complaining not enough time has been taken to discuss things...

She had enough time to tweet during the meeting though.

 

[wood 11185]

 

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[wood 11185]

Council's shown its hand. If Adler can ever get this thing to a vote, it's gonna pass.

 

Edited August 15, 2018 by wood

[wood 11185]

Ora wants to vote now. She knows it's over.

[wood 11185]

 

 

[jimmyjazz 45571]

I think the Council is pretty much wrapped up, 6-5 in favor, maybe 6-4 (7-4? don't know if Adler votes in the absence of a tie).

BUT, we still pushed back on PSV regarding a couple of changes, correct?  They could still refuse or submit alternate language.

I still hate Austin politics.  It's been fucked since I got here in 1982.  Just the most inept, silly, small-minded bunch of individuals, year after year.

[Pasken 1309]

Adler always votes because he is a city council member that has a procedural role on council. 

[wood 11185]

22 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I think the Council is pretty much wrapped up, 6-5 in favor, maybe 6-4 (7-4? don't know if Adler votes in the absence of a tie).

BUT, we still pushed back on PSV regarding a couple of changes, correct?  They could still refuse or submit alternate language.

I still hate Austin politics.  It's been fucked since I got here in 1982.  Just the most inept, silly, small-minded bunch of individuals, year after year.

Yep, yep, yep. I got back here after HS in 1983. Nothing's changed in all that time. It's always been a shitshow.

[wood 11185]

Adler looks at Tovo's numerous remaining amendments and says he thinks we can get through these in about 15 minutes, then vote.

[GabrielsHorn 2142]

24 minutes ago, wood said:

Yep, yep, yep. I got back here after HS in 1983. Nothing's changed in all that time. It's always been a shitshow.

Problem is, even with the new council set-up, the NIMBYs will almost always win. As long as the development is in East Austin or where the poor live, they don't give a shit as they see their property value skyrocket. 

[Radical Larry 28529]

Troxclair complaining not enough time has been taken to discuss things...
She had enough time to tweet during the meeting though.
 

I’ll discuss it with her over a nice seafood dinner.

[jimmyjazz 45571]

I don't mind Troxclair's argument that we should look at the financial implications of taking the PSV deal over others.  The problem is that it should have been done long ago.  The moment PSV broached the idea, there should have been a strong project plan put in place that asked "where", "why", and "what alternatives?".  

I also don't trust her numbers one bit. 

I also don't think the decision should be made on $ alone.  I'm a recent convert to soccer, as my teenage son has moved up pretty far in 10 years, but the fact is Austin has shat all over our minority population for decades, and this is not only an opportunity to further the Austin brand nationally, but actually enable more kids to play the game in numbers reflective of our demographics, instead of mostly travelling to Cedar Park, Killeen, Round Rock, Pflugerville, Dripping Springs, Westlake, etc.  It's a city of over 1M people many of whom are fanatics about the game -- do something for them, for once.

Whatever, rant over, too little too late.

[Bottlecap 1522]

Holy shit. Pool has no clue how sports work. MUCH MUCH less how broadcast sports work. What a FUCKING DUMBASS

[wood 11185]

26 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I don't mind Troxclair's argument that we should look at the financial implications of taking the PSV deal over others.  The problem is that it should have been done long ago.  The moment PSV broached the idea, there should have been a strong project plan put in place that asked "where", "why", and "what alternatives?".  

I also don't trust her numbers one bit. 

I also don't think the decision should be made on $ alone.  I'm a recent convert to soccer, as my teenage son has moved up pretty far in 10 years, but the fact is Austin has shat all over our minority population for decades, and this is not only an opportunity to further the Austin brand nationally, but actually enable more kids to play the game in numbers reflective of our demographics, instead of mostly travelling to Cedar Park, Killeen, Round Rock, Pflugerville, Dripping Springs, Westlake, etc.  It's a city of over 1M people many of whom are fanatics about the game -- do something for them, for once.

Whatever, rant over, too little too late.

Exactly. She and the rest have had months to go over these costs & benefits. She knows all that though, and has probably been over it. She's just going to keep saying this ad infinitum just to keep stalling. 

tl;dr: she's full of shit imho.

Edited August 15, 2018 by wood

[wood 11185]

Now they're pitching the angle that McKalla is a wetland. LOL.

[jimmyjazz 45571]

Jesus Christ.  I walk by that tract every day in a vain attempt to get a little leg stretch going.  It is a toxic waste dump, not a wetland.  Literally ANY development would improve the site.

[futureman 22418]

21 minutes ago, wood said:

Now they're pitching the angle that McKalla is a wetland. LOL.

do any salamanders call it home?

[Pasken 1309]

Hopefully this process causes normal people to interact with their council member more so it's not just the vocal angry minority that drive some of these council members. 

[jimmyjazz 45571]

What would be the implications if it WERE a wetland?  Would the alternative proposals suddenly be better?  If it's a wetland, it's a wetland.

Idiots.

[skittlebrau 474]

25 minutes ago, Pasken said:

Hopefully this process causes normal people to interact with their council member more so it's not just the vocal angry minority that drive some of these council members. 

This is the truest statement of this entire painful ordeal.

[skittlebrau 474]

18 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

What would be the implications if it WERE a wetland?  Would the alternative proposals suddenly be better?  If it's a wetland, it's a wetland.

Idiots.

Gotta mitigate. Such a pointless discussion.

[Pasken 1309]

22 minutes ago, skittlebrau said:

Gotta mitigate. Such a pointless discussion.

Agree. Pointless to say it has to abide by city state and federal laws because everything has to abide by the law. If they amended deal to comply with Klingon and Dothraqi law then I would get it. 

[wood 11185]

19 minutes ago, Pasken said:

Agree. Pointless to say it has to abide by city state and federal laws because everything has to abide by the law. If they amended deal to comply with Klingon and Dothraqi law then I would get it. 

Well, theoretically...

[jimmyjazz 45571]

So I got curious about Leslie Pool's "Rosedale" residence and District 7.  Here's the District 7 map (in black, not the blue overlay).  I marked her house in red.  At the bottom.  As in, less than half a block from being out of District 7.  

I'm not saying gerrymandering, but Jesus:

[wood 11185]

 

[wood 11185]

2 amendments left, y'all...

[jimmyjazz 45571]

22 minutes ago, wood said:

 

It's as if we're doing due diligence for PSV.

[Al Czervik 1228]

1 hour ago, Radical Larry said:

 

I’ll discuss it with her over a nice seafood dinner.

 

And never call her again?

[Radical Larry 28529]

And never call her again?

Unlike Dorothy Mantooth, I’d call her again.

[Al Czervik 1228]

23 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

 

Unlike Dorothy Mantooth, I’d call her again.

Lets continue to leave the mothers in this.

[wood 11185]

Unfuckingreal.

[wood 11185]

...and now talking about Marky Mark wanting to buy the Crew? You can't make this shit up.

[wood 11185]

Amendment failed.

[gsoda3 3237]

which one?

[GabrielsHorn 2142]

I imagine 7-4 will be the final tally. 

[skittlebrau 474]

Sooooooooo close. Let’s just stop talking and vote.

[wood 11185]

Welp. That's it. 7-4 in favor. It's over. 

20 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

which one?

Amendment to delete "and execute" so that it would still have to come back to the council again.

[wood 11185]

20 minutes ago, skittlebrau said:

Sooooooooo close. Let’s just stop talking and vote.

Yeah they all have to get their soundbites & camera time in now...

[Gardner Barnes 1562]

Pool is going to look like a hero to a minority that will probably the the key voting constituency in her district.

 

As an aside, my hood has has to work with Alter about a streets issue.  The president of the HoA told me candidly she is the least intelligent public servant he has ever dealt with.   Stated she is a single issue candidate that is in way WAY over her head.

[skittlebrau 474]

Pool gonna soapbox.

[gsoda3 3237]

19 minutes ago, wood said:

Welp. That's it. 7-4 in favor. It's over. 

Amendment to delete "and execute" so that it would still have to come back to the council again.

thanks for the running commentary.  i was in a lunch mtg and couldn't monitor it discretely.

[Pasken 1309]

21 minutes ago, skittlebrau said:

Sooooooooo close. Let’s just stop talking and vote.

Are you at the hall?