Tell me about Texas Tech

[Vertigo 20492]

If Tyler Owens runs the fastest 40 at this year's combine, someone is going to lose their mind and draft him 3 rounds too high. That type of size/speed ratio is unheard of. He isn't a particularly good football player, but he is a freak athlete. 

Edited February 29 by Vertigo

[Post Oak 20564]

I'll never understand someone insisting on displaying their stupidity.

 

Thinking aloud is responsible for much of mankind's misery.

 

-Ben Franklin

[hook me 2163]

31 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

If Tyler Owens runs the fastest 40 at this year's combine, someone is going to lose their mind and draft him 3 rounds too high. That type of size/speed ratio is unheard of. He isn't a particularly good football player, but he is a freak athlete. 

Which is the exact reason 247 ranked him a 5 star and a better prospect than Garrett Wilson. The aggy tears when that ranking was released were glorious. Of course, if he is drafted relatively high, it will only serve to reinforce that line of thinking for people ranking recruits. "Hey this guy sucks at all things football but he's big and fast so he'll get drafted."

[Pancho 46301]

1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Quick peek into the mind of someone who leaves Austin for Lubbock.

 

 

 

Me after just reading the headlines and forgetting what he looked like because I don’t pay attention to tech players:

 

*please don’t be Black*

*please don’t be Black*

*please don’t be Black*

*please don’t be Black*

*please don’t be Black*

 

 

 

.

 

 

.

 

…

 

 

 

 

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[closetojumping 65409]

1 hour ago, Vertigo said:

If Tyler Owens runs the fastest 40 at this year's combine, someone is going to lose their mind and draft him 3 rounds too high. That type of size/speed ratio is unheard of. He isn't a particularly good football player, but he is a freak athlete. 

The guy shouldn't be drafted at all. He's a terrible football player. His measurables are a siren song to many an unwitting evaluator, so I'm sure some idiot in the NFL will draft him, but he's a wasted pick.

[Guest]

So, He’s going to Carolina?

[markstanco 12786]

No, Dallas for sure. And probably will trade up in the 1st to get him. 

And all of us Cowboys fans will be:

[Longboard Horn 41352]

[Blotto 24017]

Neck beard writing for the Lubbock paper understands the score. 

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Then on the Texas side, the death of the rivalry has been met with a collective yawn. The Longhorns already have a biggest rival, Oklahoma, and the Sooners are joining them in the SEC, so that will remain alive. They consider Baylor, Texas A&M and, to a certain extent, TCU as bigger counterparts. Plus they're trying to keep pace with the Alabamas of the football world and the Kentuckys of the hoops scene. Texas Tech is an afterthought.

This can be pointed out by the scenes at both home venues in Texas Tech's two games against Texas. In Austin, the Moody Center — where the concourse looks more like an up-scale wine and cheese bar than a basketball venue — holds 10,763. Playing each other in the first Big 12 game of the season — Tech's last visit to Austin until who knows when — wasn't a sellout. UT fans barely made a peep as the Red Raiders ran away with the win.

In Lubbock, students camped out for days to sell out the USA looking for one last chance to throw the Horns Down hand signal in front of the people who get so offended by it. And when things didn't work, a few in the crowd decided to add to Texas' "You'll always be the little brother" mentality by acting just like a little brother: throwing stuff and starting fights, wanting mom and dad to do something about the injustice.

It's not fair. You're cheating.

The relationship between Texas Tech and Texas sports can be summed up by the one meme from "Mad Men" anybody on the internet knows.

Texas Tech: I feel bad for you.

Texas: I don't think about you at all.

Maybe it's best for these two athletic programs to go their separate ways for a while. There are plenty of other fish (potential conference rivals) in the sea.

Now that we're back in the same conference with piggy who doesn't really have a true SEC rival, I expect those hillbillies will crank the hate back up to levels that would make Tech blush. 

behind a paywall, so I archived it: https://archive.ph/I7Xlc

[Pato del Muerto 53481]

25 minutes ago, Blotto said:

to throw the Horns Down hand signal in front of the people who get so offended by it

[Dennis Taylor 19348]

2 hours ago, Blotto said:

Neck beard writing for the Lubbock paper understands the score. 

Now that we're back in the same conference with piggy who doesn't really have a true SEC rival, I expect those hillbillies will crank the hate back up to levels that would make Tech blush. 

behind a paywall, so I archived it: https://archive.ph/I7Xlc

He's spot on with the Mad Men reference 

[mr. sunshine 2859]

Tech was the only law school to accept me and was generous enough to give me a diploma three years later.  I left Lubbock in '91 and have had no desire to return since.  It's like that Mac Davis song only without the desire to go back.  Fuck 'em

[Guest]

so it wasn't like the Mac Davis song...

Edited March 1 by slorch

[Evil Bill Obrien 3510]

3 hours ago, Blotto said:

Neck beard writing for the Lubbock paper understands the score. 

Now that we're back in the same conference with piggy who doesn't really have a true SEC rival, I expect those hillbillies will crank the hate back up to levels that would make Tech blush. 

behind a paywall, so I archived it: https://archive.ph/I7Xlc

Holy neckbeard Batman...tho he aint wrong...

[Napoleon 8831]

35 minutes ago, mr. sunshine said:

Tech was the only law school to accept me and was generous enough to give me a diploma three years later.  I left Lubbock in '91 and have had no desire to return since.  It's like that Mac Davis song only without the desire to go back.  Fuck 'em

 

31 minutes ago, slorch said:

so it wasn't like the Mac Davis song...

Are people supposed to have a clue as to what the hell “a Mac Davis song” is supposed to mean.

I feel like Mac Davis had a head of black curly hair… oh, and he was white. That’s probably more Mac Davis awareness than half  of Surly.

Anyway, the MadMen quote sounds about right, though I never watched that show because I was out of the country.

(I did sit across from Hamm at a wedding reception in Nantucket in 2003, but didn’t know it until about 8 years later when I found out that he was Jennifer Westfeldt’s longtime boyfriend. I didn’t really notice a thing about him other than a guy in a suit was to her side…

…which kind of made him like Texas Tech.)

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Napoleon said:

 

Are people supposed to have a clue as to what the hell “a Mac Davis song” is supposed to mean.

I feel like Mac Davis had a head of black curly hair… oh, and he was white. That’s probably more Mac Davis awareness than half  of Surly.

Anyway, the MadMen quote sounds about right, though I never watched that show because I was out of the country.

(I did sit across from Hamm at a wedding reception in Nantucket in 2003, but didn’t know it until about 8 years later when I found out that he was Jennifer Westfeldt’s longtime boyfriend. I didn’t really notice a thing about him other than a guy in a suit was to her side…

…which kind of made him like Texas Tech.)

They typically overplay/ misquote the lyric " happiness was Lubbock in my rearview mirror."    Here you go, if your google is offline...

… I was just fifteen and out of control lost to James Dean and rock and roll
I knew down deep in my country soul that I had to get away
Hollywood was a lady in red who danced in my dreams as I tossed in bed
I knew I?d wind up in jail or dead if I have to stay
I thought happiness was Lubbock Texas in my rearview mirror
My mama kept calling me home but I just did not want to hear her
And the vision was getting clearer in my dream
So I let out one night in June stoned on the glow of the Texas moon
Humming an old Buddy Holly tune called Peggy Sue (pretty, pretty Peggy Sue)
With my favorite jeans and a cheap guitar I ran off chasing a distant star
If Buddy Holly could make it that far then I figured I could too
I thought happiness was Lubbock Texas in my rearview mirror
My mama kept calling me home but I just did not want to hear her
And the vision was getting clearer in my dream
But the Hollywood moon didn't smile the same old smile that I?d grown up with
The lady in red just wanted my last dime
And I cried myself to sleep at night too dumb to run too scared to fight
And too proud to admit it at the time
So I got me some gigs on Saturday night not much more than orchestrated fights
I?d come home drunk and I tried to write but the words came out all wrong
Hell bent and bound for a wasted youth too much gin and not enough vermouth
And no one to teach me to seek the truth before I put an end to this song
I still thought happiness was Lubbock Texas in my rearview mirror
My mama kept calling me home but I just could not, would not hear her
And the vision was getting clearer in my dream
Well I thank God each and every day for giving me the music and the words to say
I?d never had made it any other way he was my only friend
Now I sleep a little better each night and when I look in the mirror in the morning light
The man I see was both wrong and right he's going home again
I guessed happiness was Lubbock Texas in my rearview mirror
But now happiness was Lubbock Texas growing nearer and dearer
And the vision was getting clearer in my dream
And I think I finally know just what it means
And when I die you can bury me in Lubbock Texas in my jeans

[NameAlreadyInUse 5169]

7 hours ago, Longboard Horn said:

That guy looks 40.

45 minutes ago, mr. sunshine said:

Tech was the only law school to accept me and was generous enough to give me a diploma three years later.  I left Lubbock in '91 and have had no desire to return since.  It's like that Mac Davis song only without the desire to go back.  Fuck 'em

I grew up in the shadow of Lubbock, as in one of the roads in Lubbock is named after the town I grew up in about 50 minutes south.  I very happily left there and only went back for family until family moved away.  Hadn't been back in years until my dad died last year and wanted to have his funeral back in that town.  Now that he's gone, I'm not sure I'll ever go back, and just the thought of that makes me happy.

Mac Davis song - Happiness is Lubbock in my Rear View Mirror - with the appropriate strikeouts for accuracy.

 

… I was just fifteen and out of control lost to James Dean and rock and roll
I knew down deep in my country soul that I had to get away
Hollywood was a lady in red who danced in my dreams as I tossed in bed
I knew I'd wind up in jail or dead if I have to stay
I thought happiness was Lubbock Texas in my rearview mirror
My mama kept calling me home but I just did not want to hear her
And the vision was getting clearer in my dream
So I let out one night in June stoned on the glow of the Texas moon
Humming an old Buddy Holly tune called Peggy Sue (pretty, pretty Peggy Sue)
With my favorite jeans and a cheap guitar I ran off chasing a distant star
If Buddy Holly could make it that far then I figured I could too
I thought happiness was Lubbock Texas in my rearview mirror
My mama kept calling me home but I just did not want to hear her
And the vision was getting clearer in my dream
But the Hollywood moon didn't smile the same old smile that I?d grown up with
The lady in red just wanted my last dime
And I cried myself to sleep at night too dumb to run too scared to fight
And too proud to admit it at the time
So I got me some gigs on Saturday night not much more than orchestrated fights
I'd come home drunk and I tried to write but the words came out all wrong
Hell bent and bound for a wasted youth too much gin and not enough vermouth
And no one to teach me to seek the truth before I put an end to this song
I still thought happiness was Lubbock Texas in my rearview mirror
My mama kept calling me home but I just could not, would not hear her
And the vision was getting clearer in my dream
Well I thank God each and every day for giving me the music and the words to say
I'd never had made it any other way he was my only friend
Now I sleep a little better each night and when I look in the mirror in the morning light
The man I see was both wrong and right he's going home again
I guessed happiness was Lubbock Texas in my rearview mirror
But now happiness was Lubbock Texas growing nearer and dearer
And the vision was getting clearer in my dream
And I think I finally know just what it means
And when I die you can bury me in Lubbock Texas in my jeans

[mr. sunshine 2859]

10 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

 

Are people supposed to have a clue as to what the hell “a Mac Davis song” is supposed to mean.

I feel like Mac Davis had a head of black curly hair… oh, and he was white. That’s probably more Mac Davis awareness than half  of Surly.

Anyway, the MadMen quote sounds about right, though I never watched that show because I was out of the country.

(I did sit across from Hamm at a wedding reception in Nantucket in 2003, but didn’t know it until about 8 years later when I found out that he was Jennifer Westfeldt’s longtime boyfriend. I didn’t really notice a thing about him other than a guy in a suit was to her side…

…which kind of made him like Texas Tech.)

Apparently you're borderline regarded

[Guest]

NAIU has the right to do that shit.

 

[NameAlreadyInUse 5169]

Your goddamn right.  My town gave you your greatest athlete to ever play at Tech, not counting Idalou's own Tracy Saul.  I grew up hating Tech (except their band was pretty badass), then started to really love them with Leach, then hated them again for what they did to Leach.  Fuck them for that forever. 

[MontereyMX 953]

20 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

Your goddamn right.  My town gave you your greatest athlete to ever play at Tech, not counting Idalou's own Tracy Saul.  I grew up hating Tech (except their band was pretty badass), then started to really love them with Leach, then hated them again for what they did to Leach.  Fuck them for that forever. 

Tracy Saul lost a ball

[TrashMaster G 18084]

6 hours ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

Your goddamn right.  My town gave you your greatest athlete to ever play at Tech, not counting Idalou's own Tracy Saul.  I grew up hating Tech (except their band was pretty badass), then started to really love them with Leach, then hated them again for what they did to Leach.  Fuck them for that forever. 

*You're 

[Pato del Muerto 53481]

7 hours ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

Your goddamn right.  My town gave you your greatest athlete to ever play at Tech, not counting Idalou's own Tracy Saul.  I grew up hating Tech (except their band was pretty badass), then started to really love them with Leach, then hated them again for what they did to Leach.  Fuck them for that forever. 

Sheryl swoopes?

[Grande Mart 533]

12 hours ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

That guy looks 40.

I grew up in the shadow of Lubbock, as in one of the roads in Lubbock is named after the town I grew up in about 50 minutes south.  I very happily left there and only went back for family until family moved away.  Hadn't been back in years until my dad died last year and wanted to have his funeral back in that town.  Now that he's gone, I'm not sure I'll ever go back, and just the thought of that makes me happy.

Mac Davis song - Happiness is Lubbock in my Rear View Mirror - with the appropriate strikeouts for accuracy.

 

… I was just fifteen and out of control lost to James Dean and rock and roll
I knew down deep in my country soul that I had to get away
Hollywood was a lady in red who danced in my dreams as I tossed in bed
I knew I'd wind up in jail or dead if I have to stay
I thought happiness was Lubbock Texas in my rearview mirror
My mama kept calling me home but I just did not want to hear her
And the vision was getting clearer in my dream
So I let out one night in June stoned on the glow of the Texas moon
Humming an old Buddy Holly tune called Peggy Sue (pretty, pretty Peggy Sue)
With my favorite jeans and a cheap guitar I ran off chasing a distant star
If Buddy Holly could make it that far then I figured I could too
I thought happiness was Lubbock Texas in my rearview mirror
My mama kept calling me home but I just did not want to hear her
And the vision was getting clearer in my dream
But the Hollywood moon didn't smile the same old smile that I?d grown up with
The lady in red just wanted my last dime
And I cried myself to sleep at night too dumb to run too scared to fight
And too proud to admit it at the time
So I got me some gigs on Saturday night not much more than orchestrated fights
I'd come home drunk and I tried to write but the words came out all wrong
Hell bent and bound for a wasted youth too much gin and not enough vermouth
And no one to teach me to seek the truth before I put an end to this song
I still thought happiness was Lubbock Texas in my rearview mirror
My mama kept calling me home but I just could not, would not hear her
And the vision was getting clearer in my dream
Well I thank God each and every day for giving me the music and the words to say
I'd never had made it any other way he was my only friend
Now I sleep a little better each night and when I look in the mirror in the morning light
The man I see was both wrong and right he's going home again
I guessed happiness was Lubbock Texas in my rearview mirror
But now happiness was Lubbock Texas growing nearer and dearer
And the vision was getting clearer in my dream
And I think I finally know just what it means
And when I die you can bury me in Lubbock Texas in my jeans

I was born on the llano estacado. Never cared for Lubbock

[Royale with cheese 1491]

On 3/1/2024 at 4:36 PM, mr. sunshine said:

Apparently you're borderline regarded

Borderline?

[Steel Shank 9553]

On 3/1/2024 at 4:31 PM, NameAlreadyInUse said:

That guy looks 40.

I grew up in the shadow of Lubbock, as in one of the roads in Lubbock is named after the town I grew up in about 50 minutes south.  I very happily left there and only went back for family until family moved away.  Hadn't been back in years until my dad died last year and wanted to have his funeral back in that town.  Now that he's gone, I'm not sure I'll ever go back, and just the thought of that makes me happy.

Mac Davis song - Happiness is Lubbock in my Rear View Mirror - with the appropriate strikeouts for accuracy.

 

… I was just fifteen and out of control lost to James Dean and rock and roll
I knew down deep in my country soul that I had to get away
Hollywood was a lady in red who danced in my dreams as I tossed in bed
I knew I'd wind up in jail or dead if I have to stay
I thought happiness was Lubbock Texas in my rearview mirror
My mama kept calling me home but I just did not want to hear her
And the vision was getting clearer in my dream
So I let out one night in June stoned on the glow of the Texas moon
Humming an old Buddy Holly tune called Peggy Sue (pretty, pretty Peggy Sue)
With my favorite jeans and a cheap guitar I ran off chasing a distant star
If Buddy Holly could make it that far then I figured I could too
I thought happiness was Lubbock Texas in my rearview mirror
My mama kept calling me home but I just did not want to hear her
And the vision was getting clearer in my dream
But the Hollywood moon didn't smile the same old smile that I?d grown up with
The lady in red just wanted my last dime
And I cried myself to sleep at night too dumb to run too scared to fight
And too proud to admit it at the time
So I got me some gigs on Saturday night not much more than orchestrated fights
I'd come home drunk and I tried to write but the words came out all wrong
Hell bent and bound for a wasted youth too much gin and not enough vermouth
And no one to teach me to seek the truth before I put an end to this song
I still thought happiness was Lubbock Texas in my rearview mirror
My mama kept calling me home but I just could not, would not hear her
And the vision was getting clearer in my dream
Well I thank God each and every day for giving me the music and the words to say
I'd never had made it any other way he was my only friend
Now I sleep a little better each night and when I look in the mirror in the morning light
The man I see was both wrong and right he's going home again
I guessed happiness was Lubbock Texas in my rearview mirror
But now happiness was Lubbock Texas growing nearer and dearer
And the vision was getting clearer in my dream
And I think I finally know just what it means
And when I die you can bury me in Lubbock Texas in my jeans

You a Cub?

[Laga4 1270]

On 3/2/2024 at 12:16 AM, Pato del Muerto said:

My town gave you your greatest athlete to ever play at Tech

Borger?

[Guest]

On 3/3/2024 at 8:17 AM, Laga4 said:

Borger?

Who are you thinking of?  Lol.

Even Donnie Anderson was from Stinnett.

[Deej 77814]

On 3/2/2024 at 12:16 AM, Pato del Muerto said:

Sheryl swoopes?

Adam James. 

[TrashMaster G 18084]

Question for the Techsters: Who would be Tech's Top 5 All-Time players, giving ZERO consideration to what they may have done in the NFL?

[Hank Chinaski 6355]

50 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

Question for the Techsters: Who would be Tech's Top 5 All-Time players, giving ZERO consideration to what they may have done in the NFL?

I’m not a tech guy but my father is, I’d guess something like:

Gray, Z Thomas, Crabtree, Welker, Harrell

i really only know their teams from the mid-80s on. I know there was a DT drafted really high in the early 80s whose pro career never happened due to an awful car accident, so maybe him. Donnie Anderson too? Also thought of Hanspard. Tyrone Thurman was a WR/returner from the mid 80s who was awesome and tiny.

I don’t know, tech guys can tell me where I’m wrong.

Edited March 5 by Hank Chinaski

[LTtxfan 50000]

Mahomes left off your list "Chinaski" ??

[66BUFF 2608]

52 minutes ago, Hank Chinaski said:

I’m not a tech guy but my father is, I’d guess something like:

Gray, Z Thomas, Crabtree, Welker, Harrell

i really only know their teams from the mid-80s on. I know there was a DT drafted really high in the early 80s whose pro career never happened due to an awful car accident, so maybe him. Donnie Anderson too? Also thought of Hanspard. Tyrone Thurman was a WR/returner from the mid 80s who was awesome and tiny.

I don’t know, tech guys can tell me where I’m wrong.

[Hank Chinaski 6355]

1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

Mahomes left off your list "Chinaski" ??

Criteria was NFL performance not considered - i.e., purely based on college performance. So I’m guessing Harrell over him, as he’s the all time passing leader (by a lot in terms of TDs and yards), also had more team success.

Edited March 5 by Hank Chinaski

[TrashMaster G 18084]

49 minutes ago, 66BUFF said:

This is a name I was curious if we'd see included.

[Scholz 12305]

Borderline intellectual functioning is an important and frequently unrecognized comorbid condition relevant to the diagnosis and treatment of any and all psychiatric disorders. In the DSM-IV-TR, it is defined by IQ in the 71–84 range.

[LTtxfan 50000]

2 hours ago, Hank Chinaski said:

Criteria was NFL performance not considered - i.e., purely based on college performance. So I’m guessing Harrell over him, as he’s the all time passing leader (by a lot in terms of TDs and yards), also had more team success.

Gotcha...

Still probably need more than 1 QB in your list imo...  All-time stuff is overrated. 

Mahomes did not play on very good teams, so he had to carry them more.  

[statsman 5693]

I’m not a Techster, but I’d go:

Holub

Anderson

Rivera

Z. Thomas

Mahomes

Every one of them, as Royal would say, “as tough as boarding house steak”

Edited March 5 by statsman

[hook me 2163]

23 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

Question for the Techsters: Who would be Tech's Top 5 All-Time players, giving ZERO consideration to what they may have done in the NFL?

For football I'd say Thomas, Crabtree, Anderson, Rivera, & Welker.

Hanspard would be an honorable mention 

[Guest]

On 3/5/2024 at 11:33 AM, TrashMaster G said:

Question for the Techsters: Who would be Tech's Top 5 All-Time players, giving ZERO consideration to what they may have done in the NFL?

My favorites all time:

Tyrone Thurman

Tracy Saul( yes really.  Same age as I am and loved how a kid from Idalou kicked so much ass)

Zach Thomas

Wes Welker

Michael Crabtree

Never saw him play in person, but EJ Holub IS MR Red Raider to me.

[Guest]

On 3/5/2024 at 1:26 PM, LTtxfan said:

Mahomes left off your list "Chinaski" ??

I appreciate what Mahomes did in college, but that defense and O-line were so horrific, I did not get juiced about those teams.  He’s not in my Top 5 players I got exited to see. If I made an alltime NFL list, regardless of alma mater; he’d almost certainly be Top 3, if not #1.

Edited March 6 by slorch

[baboso 6105]

On 3/5/2024 at 6:51 PM, statsman said:

I’m not a Techster, but I’d go:

Holub

Anderson

Rivera

Z. Thomas

Mahomes

Every one of them, as Royal would say, “as tough as boarding house steak”

This is a hard list to argue, but I would have to work Welker in there somewhere.  The right guy at the right time to show what the slot receiver could do in Leach's Air Raid offense.  Not too mention the punt returns.  Little dude was tough as boot leather.

[Longboard Horn 41352]

Speaking of Wes Welker... dagger into aggy's heart. The one random Tech guy in front of the corp has always cracked me up. 

Edited March 7 by Longboard Horn

[Armybrat 41400]

Corpseturd expressions are 24 carat gold.

[nnm 37904]

9 hours ago, Longboard Horn said:

Speaking of Wes Welker... dagger into aggy's heart. The one random Tech guy in front of the corp has always cracked me up. 

Fake army guys on the right look like they’re about to wield their swords in a manly defense of Old Army.

[Pato del Muerto 53481]

Hanspard and bam Morris also come to mind. 
 

Adding qbs is tough with mike leach producing one or two year wonders like symon that had gaudy stats. So let’s go billy Joe tolliver. 

[Vertigo 20492]

On 3/6/2024 at 11:44 AM, slorch said:

My favorites all time

Never saw him play in person, but EJ Holub IS MR Red Raider to me.

I went to church with EJ many years ago. Nice guy and just a huge dude.

[baboso 6105]

17 hours ago, Longboard Horn said:

Speaking of Wes Welker... dagger into aggy's heart. The one random Tech guy in front of the corp has always cracked me up. 

Granny ag in her blue blockers always makes me chortle.

[Royale with cheese 1491]

4 hours ago, baboso said:

Granny ag in her blue blockers always makes me chortle.

That's The Beaver's mom. She speaks jive.

[Hpara759 1792]

On 3/5/2024 at 1:24 PM, Hank Chinaski said:

I’m not a tech guy but my father is, I’d guess something like:

Gray, Z Thomas, Crabtree, Welker, Harrell

i really only know their teams from the mid-80s on. I know there was a DT drafted really high in the early 80s whose pro career never happened due to an awful car accident, so maybe him. Donnie Anderson too? Also thought of Hanspard. Tyrone Thurman was a WR/returner from the mid 80s who was awesome and tiny.

I don’t know, tech guys can tell me where I’m wrong.