2022 Fall Camp: Drippin'

[BornAndRaised 12223]

2 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Ethan Burke being on the depth chart this year is either a really good sign or really bad. The guy looks like he’s added some weight but he also looked like he added some of it by eating Doritos for every meal after seeing that picture of him with the Westlake guys at the open practice.

I expected him to be a good player 2 or 3 years in, but to see him contributing this quick is surprising.

 

Had to go and find it.. you're not wrong.

[Vertigo 20267]

5 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Ethan Burke being on the depth chart this year is either a really good sign or really bad. The guy looks like he’s added some weight but he also looked like he added some of it by eating Doritos for every meal after seeing that picture of him with the Westlake guys at the open practice.

I expected him to be a good player 2 or 3 years in, but to see him contributing this quick is surprising.

 

His ability to get into the tackles with his wingspan is something that will offset raw strength because he can play with uncommon leverage. He wont hold up against the run for a whole game, but the dude can absolutely help in passing situations.

Edited August 20, 2022 by Vertigo

[TommyGufano 6021]

7 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Cain has dependable hands? When did that happen?

What would lead you to believe otherwise? 

[Hookem2147 20932]

IT

EDIT (2:13) 

— Quinn threw a pick-six to Kitan Crawford but it was because the receiver fell down — and not a receiver you’d expect to be out there with the first team QB.

[Vertigo 20267]

1 minute ago, BornAndRaised said:

Had to go and find it.. you're not wrong.

Oh my... 

[Tex-19 2869]

23 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Ewers can suck for a bit if he has the talent to be great. I have been patient for 12 years now, I can be patient for a few games more while he gets his shit together.

Besides all we need to do is beat UTSA and ULM to start the season. 

Everyone is gonna need to be patient for sure. He's a freshman, he's gonna make mistakes, no doubt about it. 

[BornAndRaised 12223]

1 minute ago, Vertigo said:

Oh my... 

Not the D1 physique you'd expect, eh?

[Tex-19 2869]

22 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

Don't be so dumb about practice INTs. Not all of them are on the QB. Receivers tend to be responsible for a lot of practice INTs - incorrectly run routes resulting in tipped balls or straight into INTs. If Ewers is throwing to Gabe Susler, he's throwing to everyone in the WR, TE, H-B room. 

 

1 minute ago, Hookem2147 said:

IT

EDIT (2:13) 

— Quinn threw a pick-six to Kitan Crawford but it was because the receiver fell down — and not a receiver you’d expect to be out there with the first team QB.

Good call Tex Long

[SHOOTER12 8789]

3 minutes ago, BornAndRaised said:

Not the D1 physique you'd expect, eh?

Bob Lilly, one of the greatest defensive linemen of all time had a body that his team mates laughed at.

Edited August 20, 2022 by SHOOTER12

[Burt Macklin 18998]

1 hour ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Makes sense. I always tell people I’m Nicolas Cage with acting skills. 

1 hour ago, Hookem2147 said:

Ethan Burke being on the depth chart this year is either a really good sign or really bad. The guy looks like he’s added some weight but he also looked like he added some of it by eating Doritos for every meal after seeing that picture of him with the Westlake guys at the open practice.

I expected him to be a good player 2 or 3 years in, but to see him contributing this quick is surprising.

 

It shouldn’t require Ethan Burke getting reps at edge to realize we really fucking suck there. We have Ovie, Sorrell, Dorbah and true freshman. We’re probably in the bottom 10-15 of P5 schools at edge right now unless one of the freshman is an absolute phenom. 

Edited August 20, 2022 by Burt Macklin

[Eggo 3974]

1 hour ago, Hookem2147 said:

Ketch did not say he was fine. Don’t see that anywhere in his posting history. (So good news)

Oh my sweet summer child... 

[Huckleberry 32701]

24 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

So, um, are we buying stock in Casey Cain? Or from Missouri?

I don't think there's any way he's a superstar on his own but having a connection with your QB can elevate guys' production on the field. I know he was a much higher rated recruit, but Billy Pittman was a star while running a 4.9 his whole career because VY trusted him and had a connection with him (meaning he knew Pittman's speed downfield and in and out of breaks perfectly so always put the ball where Pittman needed it). If Ewers has that with Cain then he can be productive while never getting a sniff from an NFL scout.

[Bamboozled73 315]

8 minutes ago, BornAndRaised said:

Had to go and find it.. you're not wrong.

Is he in the middle? 

[BornAndRaised 12223]

Just now, Bamboozled73 said:

Is he in the middle? 

I'm assuming this is sarcasm... if its not, Burke is far left.

[Hiphopopotamos 20865]

1 minute ago, Bamboozled73 said:

Is he in the middle? 

Burke is a legit 6'7" - look left.

[Atticus 3922]

12 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Ethan Burke being on the depth chart this year is either a really good sign or really bad. The guy looks like he’s added some weight but he also looked like he added some of it by eating Doritos for every meal after seeing that picture of him with the Westlake guys at the open practice.

I expected him to be a good player 2 or 3 years in, but to see him contributing this quick is surprising.

 

Haven't seen that pic before. EB is gonna be very good sooner than expected if he's putting on weight like that this quickly. He hasn't seemed to lose his quickness either. That frame can hold a lot, which is why I was always a bigger fan of his of the Westlake duo.

[Schulz2.0 28768]

10 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

His ability to get into the tackles with his wingspan is something that will offset raw strength because he can play with uncommon leverage. He wont hold up against the run for a whole game, but the dude can absolutely help in passing situations.

Gerry mentioned he has quick feet and can bend.

[Hiphopopotamos 20865]

For comparison - this is Burke after title game.

[Hiphopopotamos 20865]

1 minute ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Gerry mentioned he has quick feet and can bend.

Gerry also talked about Burke having great ankle flexion which is apparently a big indicator that pro scouts look for.

[closetojumping 62237]

1 minute ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

For comparison - this is Burke after title game.

Maybe someone just needs to give the poor bastard a little advice. Either wear a jersey big enough to cover your pasty soft stomach, or mix in a trip to the tanning bed if a crop top is your thing. 

[Hookem2147 20932]

1 minute ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

For comparison - this is Burke after title game.

Yeah, he’s definitely added some muscle in his arms but a lot of it went to the midsection.

[LTtxfan 48970]

3 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Gerry mentioned he has quick feet and can bend.

Great lacrosse player -- got's some quicks

[D3zii 3642]

4 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

I don't think there's any way he's a superstar on his own but having a connection with your QB can elevate guys' production on the field. I know he was a much higher rated recruit, but Billy Pittman was a star while running a 4.9 his whole career because VY trusted him and had a connection with him (meaning he knew Pittman's speed downfield and in and out of breaks perfectly so always put the ball where Pittman needed it). If Ewers has that with Cain then he can be productive while never getting a sniff from an NFL scout.

Y’all act like you have to be a phenomenal athlete to be a great WR. . 

Hands and Good routes will make you a top WR in the NFL, just look at Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Tee Higgins shid even Devontae Adams 

They’re good because they’re smart and run really good routes. None of them ran under a 4.5 

[Laga4 1270]

7 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

I don't think there's any way he's a superstar on his own but having a connection with your QB can elevate guys' production on the field. I know he was a much higher rated recruit, but Billy Pittman was a star while running a 4.9 his whole career because VY trusted him and had a connection with him (meaning he knew Pittman's speed downfield and in and out of breaks perfectly so always put the ball where Pittman needed it). If Ewers has that with Cain then he can be productive while never getting a sniff from an NFL scout.

Good take. 

[Red Five 40660]

22 minutes ago, TommyGufano said:

What would lead you to believe otherwise? 

It was an issue last fall. The practice I saw I think he dropped every ball that hit him in the hands. 

[Laga4 1270]

4 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Scrimmage practice just started... watch out for OB drones overhead

UGA with the aerial attack trying to get even with BEVO. 

[TommyGufano 6021]

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

It was an issue last fall. The practice I saw I think he dropped every ball that hit him in the hands. 

I've always thought of him as a possession guy with sticky hands. Obviously this one made the rounds in the spring:

 

And then a few nice grabs here where he just looks like a dude who naturally snags it and doesn't fight the ball at all

 

 

[PTINS 3442]

1 minute ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Burke is a legit 6'7" - look left.

Is Burke the guy that was an "elite" lacrosse player?

6'-7" 234 lbs?, perhaps they were nacho-cheese Doritos?

 

[TommyGufano 6021]

Just now, PTINS said:

Is Burke the guy that was an "elite" lacrosse player?

6'-7" 234 lbs?, perhaps they were nacho-cheese Doritos?

 

yes

[Schulz2.0 28768]

1 minute ago, PTINS said:

Is Burke the guy that was an "elite" lacrosse player?

6'-7" 234 lbs?, perhaps they were nacho-cheese Doritos?

 

He's heavier than 235 right now.

19 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

For comparison - this is Burke after title game.

[Bigpoppapump 529]

Got that Trey Hendrickson body.

[Eggo 3974]

17 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Great lacrosse player -- got's some quicks

Excellent. He's good at the whitest sport on earth. Must be fast. 

[B00M 6280]

15 minutes ago, D3zii said:

Y’all act like you have to be a phenomenal athlete to be a great WR. . 

Hands and Good routes will make you a top WR in the NFL, just look at Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Tee Higgins shid even Devontae Adams 

They’re good because they’re smart and run really good routes. None of them ran under a 4.5 

Bruh those are all phenomenal athletes

[KeysPhoneWallet 807]

He’s great at TikTok, that’s for sure

Fuck the ccp

[WinningIsHard 4017]

45 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Alfred Collins back on the field is a nice surprise

[Butch Had Not 2940]

39 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

IT

EDIT (2:13) 

— Quinn threw a pick-six to Kitan Crawford but it was because the receiver fell down — and not a receiver you’d expect to be out there with the first team QB.

[Sandbagging Steve 982]

14 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

I don't think there's any way he's a superstar on his own but having a connection with your QB can elevate guys' production on the field. I know he was a much higher rated recruit, but Billy Pittman was a star while running a 4.9 his whole career because VY trusted him and had a connection with him (meaning he knew Pittman's speed downfield and in and out of breaks perfectly so always put the ball where Pittman needed it). If Ewers has that with Cain then he can be productive while never getting a sniff from an NFL scout.

Pittman could do that because Vince was a massive run threat and had one of the best ball fakes of all time. Pittman is also very much like Whittington, with good agility and just an all around competitor.

Cain ran a 4.71 electronic-timed 40 as a sophomore at 6-2, with arms that hang down to his knees. Most skill position players get faster, if they show speed that young. He showed decent agility on tape and has a massive catch radius. His long arms help keep defenders from jamming. I remember saying he's not great but he's one of the better recruits we've landed at that position in a while. His 4.71 as a sophomore is faster than most of our receivers (before Sark) while they were in college. And they didn't have Cain's length or ball skills. Too many of our recruits over the past 10-15 years, even the 4-stars, had no chance at this level. Online websites have fans fooled.

Cain was chastised on the internet because of his less than desirable ranking and the fact a few UT "journalists" thought it was a bad take. All the while, other receivers with way less talent were applauded because of their ranking and the fact a few UT "journalists" thought they were good pickups.

Some of you should go back and watch his film and take a look at his measurements and track times at an early age. 

Online recruiting evaluations have jumped the shark. Does anyone actually go back and look at past results? Does anyone actually learn how to evaluate talent? Or just make excuses when they're very wrong on a recruit? There's no accountability in this profession.

[KeysPhoneWallet 807]

Everyone is gonna need to be patient for sure. He's a freshman, he's gonna make mistakes, no doubt about it. 

He’s also got a ballsy gambler mentality. So ints will come with it. Having a guy that generates 3 and outs and kills our run game by never threatening the deep part of the field is worse than a gambler who hits tds and opens the run game but throws some ints.

60 td / 30 ints would be pretty fucking funny though.

[Wulaw Horn 18980]

3 minutes ago, KeysPhoneWallet said:

He’s also got a ballsy gambler mentality. So ints will come with it. Having a guy that generates 3 and outs and kills our run game by never threatening the deep part of the field is worse than a gambler who hits tds and opens the run game but throws some ints.

60 td / 30 ints would be pretty fucking funny though.

If he could do that at an even 5/2.5 wvery game with our running back room I’m pretty sure we’d go 10-2. 

Edited August 20, 2022 by Wulaw Horn

[KeysPhoneWallet 807]

Yeah, he’s definitely added some muscle in his arms but a lot of it went to the midsection.

Power belly. He’s running a caloric surplus to get through camp. Prob a good thing.

[Jamaal.25 587]

1 hour ago, D3zii said:

Overall I think Quinn is getting us ready for a stat line of 5 TDS and 2/3ints 

So every 3 games, he'll have 15 TDs and 2 picks? Fuck yea! Looking forward to kicking OU's ass twice this year

[Hookem2147 20932]

Gerry said he’s hearing Austin Jordan is having a good camp at CB. There was some questions if he would stick at CB coming out of HS so it’s a good early sign.

Edited August 20, 2022 by Hookem2147

[OB3 3608]

[babysdaddy 2718]

Power belly. He’s running a caloric surplus to get through camp. Prob a good thing.

I got one of those

[Humble Beast 258]

By far the most concerning recurring tidbit is how great our D Line has been doing. It means we still suck on OLine. 

[closetojumping 62237]

5 minutes ago, Sandbagging Steve said:

Pittman could do that because Vince was a massive run threat and had one of the best ball fakes of all time. Pittman is also very much like Whittington, with good agility and just an all around competitor.

Cain ran a 4.71 electronic-timed 40 as a sophomore at 6-2, with arms that hang down to his knees. Most skill position players get faster, if they show speed that young. He showed decent agility on tape and has a massive catch radius. His long arms help keep defenders from jamming. I remember saying he's not great but he's one of the better recruits we've landed at that position in a while. His 4.71 as a sophomore is faster than most of our receivers (before Sark) while they were in college. And they didn't have Cain's length or ball skills. Too many of our recruits over the past 10-15 years, even the 4-stars, had no chance at this level. Online websites have fans fooled.

Cain was chastised on the internet because of his less than desirable ranking and the fact a few UT "journalists" thought it was a bad take. All the while, other receivers with way less talent were applauded because of their ranking and the fact a few UT "journalists" thought they were good pickups.

Some of you should go back and watch his film and take a look at his measurements and track times at an early age. 

Online recruiting evaluations have jumped the shark. Does anyone actually go back and look at past results? Does anyone actually learn how to evaluate talent? Or just make excuses when they're very wrong on a recruit? There's no accountability in this profession.

Maybe we let Cain actually do something, hell anything, on a field during a game before we start lauding him and mocking how he was viewed in recruiting. 

[ClubWhatever 12087]

Need someguy to post believable injury takes

[JFKFC 4878]

4 minutes ago, OB3 said:

[Sandbagging Steve 982]

1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

Maybe we let Cain actually do something, hell anything, on a field during a game before we start lauding him and mocking how he was viewed in recruiting. 

I'm not saying he's going to do anything. UT boards think he sucks as a prospect. They also thin he's slow. Neither is true, regardless of what he does or doesn't do on the field. There's some really bad evaluations these days. Fans bite way too hard for what the online journalists have to say and don't do their own homework. Many of our commits at this position over the years are much worse than him, yet, we blame the coaches for development when they don't hit. It's not development, it's recruiting and evaluation.

[ClubWhatever 12087]

1 hour ago, Hookem2147 said:

--- One source described Jordan Whittington as “a beast.”

This is the sign of a savvy reporter.  It was the source who called the player “a beast”, not me.