2022 Fall Camp: Drippin'

[Hookem2147 20927]

Someone posted a good article that broke down Majors PFF grades from last season:

Spoiler

He was one of the two lowest-graded offensive linemen for the Longhorns in the first two weeks of last season. And it seemed like Majors hit rock bottom when he allowed a career-worst four quarterback pressures in Texas’ tough loss to Arkansas last year. That led to a pass-blocking grade south of 25, which was good to rank in the bottom five of the Power Five among all starting FBS offensive linemen in Week 2.

But Majors was able to make some ample improvements in pass protection after his rocky performance against Arkansas. In fact, he turned out to be one of the more effective centers in the Big 12 last season post-Week 2.o

Majors would go on to register the second-best pass-blocking grade among Big 12 centers last season post-Week 2. He also didn’t allow a single sack and had a run-blocking grade that ranked among the top four centers in the Big 12 during that span.

Majors went from allowing roughly a half-dozen quarterback pressures and two QB hits in the first two weeks of the season, to allowing around a dozen pressures and just one QB hit in the last 10 games. In the first two weeks, he had an effectiveness rating in pass protection of 95.6 percent.

But then, he posted an effectiveness rating in pass protection of 98.3 percent in the final 10 games of the season. He was the most improved offensive lineman among the regular starters for Texas last season in terms of pass blocking grade in Big 12 play and effectiveness rating in pass protection.

Majors was clearly someone that started to hit his stride in pass blocking as last season moved along. And given the fact that he was a freshman and first-year starter at one of the toughest positions to play in the trenches (center), it makes sense that it took a bit of time for him to settle into this role.

In fact, you could argue that Majors was a little bit ahead of schedule at the end of last season compared to how a freshman center usually performs. That is evident when you compare Majors’ production with other freshman starting centers around the Power Five from last season.

Just to note, there were a little more than 15 freshman centers that got regular snaps in the FBS last fall. And there were around 10 freshman centers that got regular snaps on Power Five teams last season.

For instance, Majors’ 98.3 effectiveness rating post-Week 2 in pass protection was good for second-best among starting freshman centers in the Power Five last season. And his pass-blocking grade post-Week 2 was good for top three among Power Five freshman centers. His run blocking grade during that span was also good for top three among Power Five freshman centers.

Majors definitely showed some significant improvements across the board post-Week 2. He wasn’t necessarily the best freshman center in the entire country last season, but he was definitely better than most.

 

[LTtxfan 48962]

21 minutes ago, Nuge said:

I'd like to see Card play behind the shit line and Ewers play behind the freshman line during the scrimmage.  Can Hayden Conner play center?  He seems to be pretty versatile.

Hayden is a bright guy -- wondering if he could handle the calls for blocking if he played guard ??

[Had Enough 2056]

Hayden is a bright guy -- wondering if he could handle the calls for blocking if he played guard ??

So if gets hurt or has to move to tackle? So now you have a Center that couldn’t previously handle it now has to do it? Or a different guard? That isn’t the same as your C getting hurt.

If line calls are you center’s job and he can’t do it, there better be some serious value in other areas being brought to the table. And consistency better be one of them.

[closetohumping 17392]

49 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

Hookah Horns on IT:

Got a couple notes from my sources that don't warrant their own thread so I'll throw them in here.

Coburn was playing with the 3s a lot yesterday.

Billingsley is looking really good and will be a dangerous weapon. Helm's blocking has been really good as well. And of course Sanders is going to be a stud.

QB is in a lot better shape overall than last year at this time. Card has made big strides with the deep ball, has been throwing some dimes, and is running a little ahead of Ewers going into scrimmage

Sounds like I’ll be dining on poke bowls all through September.  Thanks @closetojumping

[Guest]

3 hours ago, dcar00 said:

And watch out for them damn Jap plays...

You know, surprise things. 

No disrespect. 

[Newy25 7638]

3 hours ago, Fud said:

You mean schools with entrenched starters?

Bama just had a competition between a program guy and a 5* true freshman a couple of years ago

Michigan is playing pretend between who is better between their 5 star super talent and a guy who started last year and isn’t nearly as good. Spoiler alert - the super talented younger guy will win out. 

[Reese Bennett 3605]

31 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Hayden is a bright guy -- wondering if he could handle the calls for blocking if he played guard ??

That's my thinking. If Majors gets supplanted, Hayden will be at guard to help with the calls and also to help the freshman tackle on the other side.

[closetojumping 62222]

3 hours ago, Codaxx said:

Banks will be in the starting line up after the 2nd scrimmage. 

Yeah, that's not good enough. Banks, or another freshman OL but preferably him, needs to be moved to 1st team on the DC after the first scrimmage in the week leading up to 8/20. And yes, it will be merited, sorry. The charade of keeping guys that barely qualify as JAGS ahead of 5 star animals that everyone wanted will need to end ahead of scrimmage #2 at least in one OL spot. There isn't a viable defense for not doing so outside of platitudes about team morale (the players aren't stupid and want the best players on the field) or general pearl-clutching valuing terrible talent with experience over exceptional talent in need of experience.

This is a "show me" level event. People here can shriek and whine over their perception that that is wildly stupid or irresponsible or herrrrrrrrderrrrrrrfuckingBMDZ pushing poor SLS around!!! OMGZ!!! and they'll all be wrong. This is the way. Sarkisian knows as much. Ewers and/or Banks need to visibly involved with why there should be optimism with this season and with NIL.

2 hours ago, Duane Moore said:

At least Neyor should show them that some of their NIL money was well spent. 

Neyor won't be moving the needle. Billingham and Hall won't be moving the needle. Milton, Watts, and James Hyphen Madison won't be moving it either. 

This also isn't about showing people what is happening with their NIL spend. You know why? These guys haven't spent a fucking dime yet. That's the point. The major money needs to start participating if you guys want to have the absolute competitive advantage in NIL across sports, but starting in FB and hoops, against all enemies. 

If a bunch of the BMDs show up and see Card running 1st team and Karic and Jones at 1st team LT/RT, go ahead and light your cigarettes now, gents. 

[thunderlounge 7754]

2 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

The Dumb is strong in this one.

You need to adjust your sarcasm meter. 

[nunna yo bizness 1687]

2 hours ago, Tex Long said:

How viable a backup was Peter the Great?

Before or after the Great Northern War against Sweden?

[derpyhorndog 2554]

@closetojumping, I agree with the sentiment in that I certainly want the best players on the field no matter what, but your last couple posts teeter on the edge of the type of program micromanaging that has often been the subject of ridicule in the past. It's often cited as a lingering issue holding the program back and dissuading potential coaching hires. Outsider expectations (by that I mean really anyone outside the locker room, boosters included) on personnel decisions and timing for them being made. General entitlement to being appeased stemming from outsiders' status as a donor or having some other position of influence. 

IMO, a guy was hired to lead the program in the locker and film rooms and on the field. His and the outsiders' interests are fully aligned in maximizing the program's potential,  ultimate goals being wins on the field - in turn, he keeps his job. Give him all the ancillary tools needed to excel (facilities, NIL, etc.), but ultimately trust your CEO to execute his plan to achieve that ultimate goal, or, if you don't, push him out the plane with his golden chute. What you're describing seems like one where trust in the CEO is lacking but he is kept around and micromanaged/influenced to fill the void. Losing formula. 

Just my opinion. Fully expecting to be insulted using some words I'll have to Google. 

[Huckleberry 32695]

There's a large difference between wanting the clearly better player to be starting by 3 weeks into fall camp and wailing all over the thread because he wasn't inserted into the starting lineup for the very first practice. Meaning before he'd ever actually practiced and had an opportunity to show that he actually is the better player. 

[Pig Bellmont 8691]

1 hour ago, Bruh Man said:

Hookah Horns on IT:

Got a couple notes from my sources that don't warrant their own thread so I'll throw them in here.

Coburn was playing with the 3s a lot yesterday.

Billingsley is looking really good and will be a dangerous weapon. Helm's blocking has been really good as well. And of course Sanders is going to be a stud.

QB is in a lot better shape overall than last year at this time. Card has made big strides with the deep ball, has been throwing some dimes, and is running a little ahead of Ewers going into scrimmage

IT continues to pimp Card so hard. At this point it should be embarrassing 

[closetojumping 62222]

2 minutes ago, derpyhorndog said:

@closetojumping, I agree with the sentiment in that I certainly want the best players on the field no matter what, but your last couple posts teeter on the edge of the type of program micromanaging that has often been the subject of ridicule in the past. It's often cited as a lingering issue holding the program back and dissuading potential coaching hires. Outsider expectations (by that I mean really anyone outside the locker room, boosters included) on personnel decisions and timing for them being made. General entitlement to being appeased stemming from outsiders' status as a donor or having some other position of influence. 

IMO, a guy was hired to lead the program in the locker and film rooms and on the field. His and the outsiders' interests are fully aligned in maximizing the program's potential,  ultimate goals being wins on the field - in turn, he keeps his job. Give him all the ancillary tools needed to excel (facilities, NIL, etc.), but ultimately trust your CEO to execute his plan to achieve that ultimate goal, or, if you don't, push him out the plane with his golden chute. What you're describing seems like one where trust in the CEO is lacking but he is kept around and micromanaged/influenced to fill the void. Losing formula. 

Just my opinion. Fully expecting to be insulted using some words I'll have to Google. 

That's the point. Seven Loss Steve can do whatever the fuck he wants. If he's dumb enough to play the stupid charade out on several roles because of his own mysterious druthers, more power to him. I don't think that's going to happen based on the tea leaves I'm reading, but it's certainly a possibility.

Look, the guy, like all of the other guys before him, got to do whatever he wanted last year. And what he did was go 5-7 while mooning the fanbase. He wasn't going to land Banks, Williams, Neto, or Agbo. Ewers was going to Tech. Neyor to Tenn. Worthy to USC. That shit I served witness to, along with others. 

But guess what happened? Help was asked for and help was given. You want that to not only continue but grow? Show results and productivity. That works in the exact same way everywhere else. Saban went out and publicly asked for help. Ryan Day did the same. Fisher has BrickTop into him in ways that would make Turkish nervous. 

This is very much not a Texas thing. It's also not a college football thing. I'm not the one being unrealistic here. Your post smacks of staggering naivete, as do any others carrying the same sentiment on this thread. I'm not calling for anything odd. True freshman start everywhere. Transfer QBs come in and take the reins all the time. This isn't about day 1 without pads. This is about 10-12 practices in, with a scrimmage behind them, that the staff makes visible changes that influence opinions and wallets not as manipulations, but because those changes are obviously correct with anyone with a pulse and a football IQ above room temperature.

This is about getting right or getting fucked. Karic, Card and Jones aren't getting right, and insisting on playing them means that we're all getting fucked. And, really, you know that. 

[Hookem2147 20927]

5 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

IT continues to pimp Card so hard. At this point it should be embarrassing 

Believe that insider is on most 9.95 sites.

Aleo I haven’t seen one 9.95 site say Ewers is running away with it so they I don’t think what they are reporting is egregious.

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

There's a large difference between wanting the clearly better player to be starting by 3 weeks into fall camp and wailing all over the thread because he wasn't inserted into the starting lineup for the very first practice. Meaning before he'd ever actually practiced and had an opportunity to show that he actually is the better player. 

This is entirely too reasonable a point. 

[derpyhorndog 2554]

5 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

That's the point. Seven Loss Steve can do whatever the fuck he wants. If he's dumb enough to play the stupid charade out on several roles because of his own mysterious druthers, more power to him. I don't think that's going to happen based on the tea leaves I'm reading, but it's certainly a possibility.

Look, the guy, like all of the other guys before him, got to do whatever he wanted last year. And what he did was go 5-7 while mooning the fanbase. He wasn't going to land Banks, Williams, Neto, or Agbo. Ewers was going to Tech. Neyor to Tenn. Worthy to USC. That shit I served witness to, along with others. 

But guess what happened? Help was asked for and help was given. You want that to not only continue but grow? Show results and productivity. That works in the exact same way everywhere else. Saban went out and publicly asked for help. Ryan Day did the same. Fisher has BrickTop into him in ways that would make Turkish nervous. 

This is very much not a Texas thing. It's also not a college football thing. I'm not the one being unrealistic here. Your post smacks of staggering naivete, as do any others carrying the same sentiment on this thread. I'm not calling for anything odd. True freshman start everywhere. Transfer QBs come in and take the reins all the time. This isn't about day 1 without pads. This is about 10-12 practices in, with a scrimmage behind them, that the staff makes visible changes that influence opinions and wallets not as manipulations, but because those changes are obviously correct with anyone with a pulse and a football IQ above room temperature.

This is about getting right or getting fucked. Karic, Card and Jones aren't getting right, and insisting on playing them means that we're all getting fucked. And, really, you know that. 

Appreciate the response. Staggering Naivete would be a solid band name. 

[Fondren & Main 6665]

Card to WR!

[BurntOrange&White 39621]

@closetojumping will you or any of the HWH/CFC people be at that scrimmage to push NIL efforts and show them how it was used to get the young guys you’re advocating for?

[BurntOrange&White 39621]

[Lou_Sassle 2865]

18 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

 Fisher has BrickTop into him in ways that would make Turkish nervous. 

Let's just hope he doesn't get fed to the pigs until AFTER he's run atm into the ground. 

[immamac 42516]

7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

@closetojumping will you or any of the HWH/CFC people be at that scrimmage to push NIL efforts and show them how it was used to get the young guys you’re advocating for?

That's not what it's for, but we also don't give. A shit if the checks come to us vs them just writing them and doing their own shit. As long as it starts happening. 

[Viper 12025]

24 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

IT continues to pimp Card so hard. At this point it should be embarrassing 

you realize that's not IT, it's a random poster right?

This is IT

[BurntOrange&White 39621]

1 minute ago, Viper said:

you realize that's not IT, it's a random poster right?

This is IT

Add in that Gerry said it’s Ewers and not even close. 

[Hookem2147 20927]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Add in that Gerry said it’s Ewers and not even close. 

He said that as a joke at OB for when they said “Swoopes over Buechele and it’s not close”

[BurntOrange&White 39621]

Scipio:

 

There are multiple reliable reports of Junior Angilau repping at center with the first team unit. The same as he did last year and this spring.

Before we all pull out the Jump To Conclusions Mat, let's caveat that info with the fact that if you want a starting guard to act as the #2 center - particularly from a line call coordination standpoint - that player needs to rep the position consistently with the starters and not just the 2nd team OL. Junior knows his job at guard (he has 34 career starts there) so he's not going to forget his assignments on a counter play vs. an odd front. The 1st team OL needs to hear Angilau make the line calls and the coaches need reassurance he can do it while also making a clean snap.

So it's perfectly reasonable that this is much ado about nothing. Depth stuff.

But if it's much ado about something - specifically, Flood's quest for best starting 5 OL - there are a few interesting things to consider:

First, it might tell you something about how the coaches regard DJ Campbell and Cole Hutson at guard. The deepest position on the Longhorn roster. When I watched Cole Hutson in the spring game, he didn't play well for a freshman. He played pretty well overall. We also know Hayden Conner can play here at a high level if the tackles step up.

Second, Angilau's strength as a run blocker and pass protector is taking on size and power. Despite his height, Junior typically gets good pad level, he has a solid natural base and he uses his hands well on the interior to big brother interior DL. His best games as a Longhorn have come against big mauling DL. See the Utah Alamo bowl game against several future NFL interior DL.

Third, Jake Majors has good footwork and he's heady, but isn't as strong at the point of attack against monsters. Though he is capable at cutting them off and posting them on outside zone and I generally like how he leaks to the second level off of double teams. I love outside zone as the core of a college running game, but maybe Sark and Flood don't. His perceived lack of physicality (it's actually sometimes his lack of height and wingspan) is currently being overdone by people who don't watch entire games but rely on one bad clip or two of poor pass protection or run blocking, but fan board gonna board. It is an area of improvement for him nonetheless. One would like to see the weight room used to progress him. Inside pressure or a consistently collapsing pocket can't really be schemed around.

Here's the kicker though: Junior Angilau, for all of his strengths, has not exactly bled awareness and quick-mindedness against interior line stunts and movement as a guard in his time at Texas. It's not slow feet. It's a failure to see what's happening. I can point to several examples. Any of you want to watch some 2019/2020 OU tape? No? Me neither. Does that scream natural center? Maybe not.

Unless...

Kyle Flood wants to play a massive and physical interior OL across G-C-G where the interior OL largely keeps tight splits and simple assignments (stay rooted and don't give up push), uses tight ends (12), extra running backs (21) and quick RPOs and play action shots to ease outside pressure and tells the interior core of the pocket that giving up penetration or push is a mortal sin. If we believe that Texas is going to stretch defenses out by personnel at WR and RB and Sark's schemerations, then running inside zone behind interior maulers could be football with the EZ button. Football coaches can attest that if their nose tackle can be blocked one-on-one by the center in the interior running game with an honest box, things typically aren't going to go real well for the 'ol run D over four quarters.

This Angilau news needs to be kept in context and there are trade-offs involved with him at center or guard. No free rides in nature or on the football field.

[thunderlounge 7754]

Over/under on how many things @derpyhorndog had/will have to google?

[BurntOrange&White 39621]

8 minutes ago, immamac said:

That's not what it's for, but we also don't give. A shit if the checks come to us vs them just writing them and doing their own shit. As long as it starts happening. 

Gotcha. Just think it would be smart of the school as a way to indirectly help you guys out in getting those checks to start happening. Always good to faces to faces and some handshakes. 

1 minute ago, thunderlounge said:

Over/under on how many things @derpyhorndog had/will have to google?

@derpyhorndog find out what they mean when they say Alabama Hot Pocket. 

[BurntOrange&White 39621]

4 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

He said that as a joke at OB for when they said “Swoopes over Buechele and it’s not close”

Well shit. My confirmation bias doesn’t care lol. 

[OB3 3608]

I was questioning why they moved Angilau to RG but now with the possible move to center it makes sense. Keep Conner at LG and then if Angilau wins the center job you can put a freshman at that RG spot and not have to worry about possibly two freshman on the left side 

Edited August 10, 2022 by OB3

[Red Five 40633]

Banks - Conner - Angilou - Hutson - Williams

[Sir Ulrich 5187]

15 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Then Huston starts at guard by week 3 and Campbell takes over at the other guard or center by week 6. 

[chad.ihrig 572]

Banks - Conner - Angilou - Hutson - Williams

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[derpyhorndog 2554]

6 minutes ago, thunderlounge said:

Over/under on how many things @derpyhorndog had/will have to google?

He started off strong with the "druthers" drop and Snatch reference but lost steam going into the home stretch. 

7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

@derpyhorndog find out what they mean when they say Alabama Hot Pocket. 

Yeah...no way I'm typing those words into the magic toaster while connected to work internet. 

[UncleSonny 6524]

5 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Banks - Conner - Angilou - Hutson - Williams

I like it. Fuck you Oregon 

[closetohumping 17392]

6 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

Then Huston starts at guard by week 3 and Campbell takes over at the other guard or center by week 6. 

Would be awesome if Hutson and his bff Ewers takes over in week 3

[derpyhorndog 2554]

Just now, UncleSonny said:

I like it. Fuck Thank you Oregon Cristobal

FIFY

[JBJ 3648]

21 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

There's a large difference between wanting the clearly better player to be starting by 3 weeks into fall camp and wailing all over the thread because he wasn't inserted into the starting lineup for the very first practice. Meaning before he'd ever actually practiced and had an opportunity to show that he actually is the better player. 

Yeah.  It's weird the hand-wringing going on this week.  With pads going on, now is the time to experiment and get a broad look at everyone on the team.  Who you are playing next to or whatever 9.95ers want to report as a "depth chart" or "position changes" doesn't really mean anything right now.

Also, we'll probably face 2 or less freshman OL all this season.  They are a rarity.  I'm sure there's a freshman better than Karic, I'm not sure there's 3 better than Majors/Jones/Karic.  Not Week 1, and probably not this year.

[BurntOrange&White 39621]

2 minutes ago, JBJ said:

Yeah.  It's weird the hand-wringing going on this week.  With pads going on, now is the time to experiment and get a broad look at everyone on the team.  Who you are playing next to or whatever 9.95ers want to report as a "depth chart" or "position changes" doesn't really mean anything right now.

Also, we'll probably face 2 or less freshman OL all this season.  They are a rarity.  I'm sure there's a freshman better than Karic, I'm not sure there's 3 better than Majors/Jones/Karic.  Not Week 1, and probably not this year.

Yeah, there are definitely freshmen better than Jones and Karic right now.


Majors I'm rather meh on but understand the mental side of that position.

[Codaxx 5592]

1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

There's a large difference between wanting the clearly better player to be starting by 3 weeks into fall camp and wailing all over the thread because he wasn't inserted into the starting lineup for the very first practice. Meaning before he'd ever actually practiced and had an opportunity to show that he actually is the better player. 

There is, but that isnt what has been discussed here or actually transpired. People are clamoring for the a freshmen to be in the 1st unit now, which is couple days into camp (1 day with pads). Freshmen reported to campus in June and coaches have had time with them prior to camp. It is just odd the hand wringing over someone wanting freshmen not to have to start at the bottom and 3 days later the hand wringing over no freshmen being in the first unit. It is completely manic. Its peak off-season Surly

Edited August 10, 2022 by Codaxx

[Huckleberry 32695]

10 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

There is, but that isnt what has been discussed here or actually transpired. People are clamoring for the a freshmen to be in the 1st unit now, which is couple days into camp (1 day with pads). Freshmen reported to campus in June and coaches have had time with them prior to camp. It is just odd the hand wringing over someone wanting freshmen not to have to start at the bottom and 3 days later the hand wringing over no freshmen being in the first unit. It is completely manic. Its peak off-season Surly

It is what's transpired and you're committing a common message board fallacy of thinking everyone says the same thing all the time. There are some people saying each of those things but that doesn't mean it's the same people. 

[Duane Moore 5236]

33 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I love outside zone as the core of a college running game, but maybe Sark and Flood don't.

After watching last year, I don’t think there’s any “maybe” about it. 

[texifornia 56489]

49 minutes ago, Lou_Sassle said:

Let's just hope he doesn't get fed to the pigs until AFTER he's run atm into the ground. 

Wait you understood that sentence? Because I sure didn't.

[pacman 7324]

57 minutes ago, Viper said:

you realize that's not IT, it's a random poster right?

This is IT

Please, if Ewers starts 10 games, he is breaking Colt's single season TD record (34).

Edited August 10, 2022 by pacman

[derpyhorndog 2554]

30 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Wait you understood that sentence? Because I sure didn't.

Jimbo = Turkish (Snatch character indebted to Bricktop); ATM NIL boosters = Bricktop (character who feeds people that cross him to pigs). Yes, I did have to Google this. 

Spoiler

Mr. Pulford, better known as Brick Top, is the main antagonist in the 2000 crime-comedy film Snatch.

He is a ruthless gangster who owns an illegal betting shop and presides over most of the local gambling rackets, including unlicensed boxing, forcing protagonists Turkish and Tommy to deal with him in order to make their own gaming venture a success. Unfortunately, Brick Top is in the habit of feeding people who displease him to a pack of hungry pigs - and it is not long before the two protagonists start to get on his nerves.

 

[Hornlover 8824]

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

That's the point. Seven Loss Steve can do whatever the fuck he wants. If he's dumb enough to play the stupid charade out on several roles because of his own mysterious druthers, more power to him. I don't think that's going to happen based on the tea leaves I'm reading, but it's certainly a possibility.

Look, the guy, like all of the other guys before him, got to do whatever he wanted last year. And what he did was go 5-7 while mooning the fanbase. He wasn't going to land Banks, Williams, Neto, or Agbo. Ewers was going to Tech. Neyor to Tenn. Worthy to USC. That shit I served witness to, along with others. 

But guess what happened? Help was asked for and help was given. You want that to not only continue but grow? Show results and productivity. That works in the exact same way everywhere else. Saban went out and publicly asked for help. Ryan Day did the same. Fisher has BrickTop into him in ways that would make Turkish nervous. 

This is very much not a Texas thing. It's also not a college football thing. I'm not the one being unrealistic here. Your post smacks of staggering naivete, as do any others carrying the same sentiment on this thread. I'm not calling for anything odd. True freshman start everywhere. Transfer QBs come in and take the reins all the time. This isn't about day 1 without pads. This is about 10-12 practices in, with a scrimmage behind them, that the staff makes visible changes that influence opinions and wallets not as manipulations, but because those changes are obviously correct with anyone with a pulse and a football IQ above room temperature.

This is about getting right or getting fucked. Karic, Card and Jones aren't getting right, and insisting on playing them means that we're all getting fucked. And, really, you know that. 

 

[Wulaw Horn 18974]

2 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

There's a large difference between wanting the clearly better player to be starting by 3 weeks into fall camp and wailing all over the thread because he wasn't inserted into the starting lineup for the very first practice. Meaning before he'd ever actually practiced and had an opportunity to show that he actually is the better player. 

Just to be clear- not starting just not behind Merrill and his merry band of walk ons. 

[Lou_Sassle 2865]

45 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Wait you understood that sentence? Because I sure didn't.

That, my good sir, is a reference to the Guy Ritchie classic "Snatch".

[texifornia 56489]

7 minutes ago, derpyhorndog said:

Jimbo = Turkish (Snatch character indebted to Bricktop); ATM NIL boosters = Bricktop (character who feeds people that cross him to pigs). Yes, I did have to Google this. 

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Mr. Pulford, better known as Brick Top, is the main antagonist in the 2000 crime-comedy film Snatch.

He is a ruthless gangster who owns an illegal betting shop and presides over most of the local gambling rackets, including unlicensed boxing, forcing protagonists Turkish and Tommy to deal with him in order to make their own gaming venture a success. Unfortunately, Brick Top is in the habit of feeding people who displease him to a pack of hungry pigs - and it is not long before the two protagonists start to get on his nerves.

 

Ah, I got this and thought it was some obscure regional food chain metaphor: https://bricktops.com/

[Fondren & Main 6665]

3 minutes ago, Hornlover said: