LBGTQ

[Js1 85275]

6 hours ago, Captainant said:

Ken Paxton is starting a build a list of trans people based on who changed their driver's license gender

There's more in the article, but suffice to say - it would seem our top cop in the state is working on figuring out a solution to his "trans problem".

 

Really weird how it also coincides with the shift in the far right street fighters to target LGBTQ folks with violence.... 

found the first person for Paxton to go after

[YGIFS 19449]

Dangit, Bobby.  

[Aqua Buddha 14582]

2 hours ago, safe sex said:

It's fucking pathetic how eager they are to be duped

A great lie is one in which the people want to believe.

[troph 24781]

14 hours ago, Captainant said:

Ken Paxton is starting a build a list of trans people based on who changed their driver's license gender

There's more in the article, but suffice to say - it would seem our top cop in the state is working on figuring out a solution to his "trans problem".

 

Really weird how it also coincides with the shift in the far right street fighters to target LGBTQ folks with violence.... 

I said it last week this is where they want to go. Folks might have assumed I was just being emotional. No really, they want us deleted, destroyed, erased.  It really is nazism the list is being made now, who is next?

please speak up, please stand up, please help us stop them. 

 

[Jhawkmvp 1489]

[GreenspointTexas 9598]

https://m.arcamax.com/currentnews/newsheadlines/s-2761067
 

 

so it begins

[YGIFS 19449]

I told y'all we should eliminate the eliminators before they can eliminate...but I got neg repped into Bolivia for being extreme.  

"Hating the Haters only begets more Hate" you shouted.  Love won't keep you off their list.  Remember that.

[troph 24781]

we had our conversation this morning over coffee, wife had already seen it yesterday when I told her this morning, not moving yet but the moment the law that theoretically could be applied to us is sent to Abbott to sign we are out. I'll bug out to Colorado, she will manage our affairs to leave and we're gone. I'll have to leave my kids behind. but that's what they want.  a fucking indicted AG for federal felony securities fraud, an AG who has been sued by former employees for egregious misconduct, is creating the list.  This is NOT a drill.  FML.

Next 3-4 months during the session we will watch carefully and if it's happening we will start preparing and I'll get on the road.  have to sell our newly built house, sell our boat, figure out how to be a Texas lawyer from Colorado I guess.  She will have to figure out how to build homes in another state.  She can probably do that I guess. thank god for zoom and my good clients.

Complete destruction that's what they want. They want to destroy people.

Jesus Fascist Fucking Christ.

 

Edited December 15, 2022 by troph

[troph 24781]

2 hours ago, YGIFS said:

I told y'all we should eliminate the eliminators before they can eliminate...but I got neg repped into Bolivia for being extreme.  

"Hating the Haters only begets more Hate" you shouted.  Love won't keep you off their list.  Remember that.

no body really gives a shit.  I knew trans people would be first. where they go from there we will see. unfortunately the respect of marriage act didn't include trans care and bodily autonomy, nor did it include protection from employment discrimination for gays and lesbians.  will they stop at trans people?  they won't stop at preventing care for trans kids, we just found that out. will they try and walk back the other rights? maybe. will they come for other groups? I mean legit asylum seekers are on the list, they may have been first actually.  it's a nazi witch hunt. where will they stop? I guess for me it doesn't matter, it's happening.

[hookemATL 11701]

3 hours ago, troph said:

we had our conversation this morning over coffee, wife had already seen it yesterday when I told her this morning, not moving yet but the moment the law that theoretically could be applied to us is sent to Abbott to sign we are out. I'll bug out to Colorado, she will manage our affairs to leave and we're gone. I'll have to leave my kids behind. but that's what they want.  a fucking indicted AG for federal felony securities fraud, an AG who has been sued by former employees for egregious misconduct, is creating the list.  This is NOT a drill.  FML.

Next 3-4 months during the session we will watch carefully and if it's happening we will start preparing and I'll get on the road.  have to sell our newly built house, sell our boat, figure out how to be a Texas lawyer from Colorado I guess.  She will have to figure out how to build homes in another state.  She can probably do that I guess. thank god for zoom and my good clients.

Complete destruction that's what they want. They want to destroy people.

Jesus Fascist Fucking Christ.

 

I dont know you personally troph, but you are such a big part of why I appreciate and love this site.  I am so goddamn sorry you have to even type this shit out.  Breaks my fucking heart.

Fuck these ghouls.  If there was any justice in the world they'd crawl into a dank hole and stay there.

[MissingInAction 25008]

I just hope I get to take a few nazis down with me. 

[troph 24781]

3 hours ago, hookemATL said:

I dont know you personally troph, but you are such a big part of why I appreciate and love this site.  I am so goddamn sorry you have to even type this shit out.  Breaks my fucking heart.

Fuck these ghouls.  If there was any justice in the world they'd crawl into a dank hole and stay there.

thank you. I actually came here to type it out so I would convince myself this is not a drill, I really need to leave if a law is signed making it criminal to receive my medical care. it's shocking we are here but not really, we just finished the same experiment with abortion. take whatever side you want on that issue, throwing people in jail for 20 years for a medical procedure is insane. So i should expect it I guess. The law they really want is to make it illegal period, no age restriction. If that law passes and the DL thing happens, they can knock on my door and haul me off. for the laws against gender affirming care for kids,  parents are already leaving, I know many that are picking up and going to blue states for their children. 

I mean it's almost as shocking as the Beard news, you wake up one morning and the whole world is different and you can't believe it.

who the fuck asks for a list from the DMV of a minority group of people minding their own business?

[troph 24781]

goddammit @Brisketexan was right.

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

This state is so fucked.

I’m sure one of our resident “conservatives” will come through and tell us how they don’t support this. But yet again, just like with gun control, book banning, abortion, immigration, and a dozen other “single” issues, they continue to vote for republicans because they are cowards and can’t break ranks. It’s pathetic.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13570]

Part 1 discussion examining how minority out groups are rounded up.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/part-one-a-tale-of-revenge/id1373812661?i=1000590016483

[Brisketexan 105061]

30 minutes ago, troph said:

goddammit @Brisketexan was right.

I'm so sorry, Troph.

And just for the record, if and when they actually come for you....I'm far from alone in saying that yes, that's something I will pick up arms to prevent.  We are getting precariously close to the non-fascists needing to shoot back.  I can't fucking believe it's coming to that.  No matter how much we don't want it to, they just aren't stopping.

I really am sorry.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13570]

A political movement based on monotonous, auto-pilot grievance without any explicit, articulated destination or ideal to aim for needs an endless, inexhaustible supply of scapegoats to blame for life being hard. It's trite for the reason it's true- It's not a matter of if you're going to be thrown under the bus, only when. 

[MissingInAction 25008]

This is absolutely terrifying. Who is the next demographic they pull lists on? 

Shit those Christo fascists even look down on my life style of being a single man in middle age. 

Are they gonna start checking internet histories and make a list of porno enthusiasts? 

This is the God damn water shed moment into hell we've been talking about.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13570]

Paxton making lists is a Pandora's Box of his own making. His side is going to ultimately lose, but it might be time to have that conversation with friends and family members that they need to jump over to the sustainable side before that chasm gets too wide. 

[troph 24781]

1 hour ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Paxton making lists is a Pandora's Box of his own making. His side is going to ultimately lose, but it might be time to have that conversation with friends and family members that they need to jump over to the sustainable side before that chasm gets too wide. 

Y’all don’t know me - but you kinda do - you have every permission to use my story with anyone you try to convince. 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13570]

3 minutes ago, troph said:

Y’all don’t know me - but you kinda do - you have every permission to use my story with anyone you try to convince. 

Will do.

My routine is to annoy every one of my scant social media followers with at least one example per day why they have an obligation and vested interest in opposing fascism.

Repetition

Repetition

Repetition

Repetition

It works. 

https://youtu.be/c8y04jUtKPg

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13570]

...if my only evidence is getting my church- going sister to rep my "Fuck Abbott" post, then I'm playing with house money. Thirty years of Limbaugh and Fox News doesn't go away unless you're willing to be an unrelenting, insistent asshole *John Candy* which is perfect for a guy like me.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13570]

11 hours ago, troph said:

we had our conversation this morning over coffee, wife had already seen it yesterday when I told her this morning, not moving yet but the moment the law that theoretically could be applied to us is sent to Abbott to sign we are out. I'll bug out to Colorado, she will manage our affairs to leave and we're gone. I'll have to leave my kids behind. but that's what they want.  a fucking indicted AG for federal felony securities fraud, an AG who has been sued by former employees for egregious misconduct, is creating the list.  This is NOT a drill.  FML.

Next 3-4 months during the session we will watch carefully and if it's happening we will start preparing and I'll get on the road.  have to sell our newly built house, sell our boat, figure out how to be a Texas lawyer from Colorado I guess.  She will have to figure out how to build homes in another state.  She can probably do that I guess. thank god for zoom and my good clients.

Complete destruction that's what they want. They want to destroy people.

Jesus Fascist Fucking Christ.

 

Posted on my "thread" along with "this is your Ghost of Christmas Future"

[atomheartbevo 89626]

6 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

This is absolutely terrifying. Who is the next demographic they pull lists on? 

“You know, those Hispanics might be harboring illegals. We might need to check out where they live.”

6 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

Shit those Christo fascists even look down on my life style of being a single man in middle age. 

Are they gonna start checking internet histories and make a list of porno enthusiasts? 

This is the God damn water shed moment into hell we've been talking about.

They wanted to try and track people who are looking up abortion stuff in other states.  I don’t put anything past them, even if the internet stuff is off limits to them.

[Willfully Horn 8001]

Respect to this dad.

 

[HenryJames 66037]

 

[aggie08 21482]

18 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

Tune in tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day.

[troph 24781]

I'll admit I am a groomer, I'm grooming my kids to think for themselves, to know how to eat right, move their bodies, have good and healthy relationships, to practice, work hard, to take satisfaction in a job well done, to know who they are, to accentuate their strengths and to mitigate their weaknesses, to make good grades, do their chores, and stand up for others... you know, those family values that are so important to maintaining the fabric of America. o_O

being gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, intersex, asexual or heterosexual is *only* about sex when you're having sex. The rest of the time humans are doing mundane shit like cooking, cleaning, shopping, working, sleeping, commuting, and the list goes on.  There is *nothing* inherently "sexualized" about being LGBTQ unless you establish that simply being human is sexual, which hint, it isn't.

just completely off the rails insanity.

 

 

Edited December 27, 2022 by troph

[wildcat09 29345]

Just a guess, but I'd bet Chaya Raichik is a lesbian and that, combined with her ultra-conservative upbringing, is the reason for all this bullshit.

[Brisketexan 105061]

“Thuh gayz are pedophile groomers trying to convert your kids to gay sex slaves” is the exact analog of the old Jewish blood libel.
You demonize a minority group, but to be REALLY effective in your demonization, you have to implicate them in evil actions. It’s not enough that you think the gay “lifestyle” of being is evil, you have to accuse them of DOING evil.
Even though - and this is important - it’s complete and total fiction. Jews don’t put the blood of Christian children in challah bread. Non-straight people do not have any program or plan to “convert” children to a life of “perversion.”
These are lies, told by the dominant class, in order to firm their grip on power by using the oldest tools around: fear and hate.
America has a modern fascist/nazi party; not only are they not trying to hide it, they’ve reached the stage where they proudly fly the flag.

[troph 24781]

Well shit, that was exactly why I make challah French toast on Christmas morning. Mother trucker. 😤 

[Js1 85275]

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

 

More projection from the Grand Old Pedophiles who are in bed with the pedophile churches 

[troph 24781]

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

More projection from the Grand Old Pedophiles who are in bed with the pedophile churches 

almost makes me hope God of the Bible is real, because those hypocritical asswipes are going to get run out of town by the old man when judgment is served.

[hookemATL 11701]

1 hour ago, troph said:

almost makes me hope God of the Bible is real, because those hypocritical asswipes are going to get run out of town by the old man when judgment is served.

I have this thought constantly.  I’d gladly trade my virulent atheism if the J-man would have his 2nd coming and put all these miserably evil pieces of shit in their place. 
 

so much wasted time, breath, and energy spent being hateful and cruel. I will never understand it. 

Edited December 27, 2022 by hookemATL

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19100]

HBO has a show, We're Here, where Shangela, Eureka O'Hara, and Bob the Drag Queen go into small towns to help some folks (Allies, trans kids, gay kids, etc..).  Granbury, TX was the first ep of the current season.  Some real pieces of shit in Granbury.  Small town Texas comes off ignorant and hateful in this show, which based on the way people vote, well, if the shoe fits.  

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

HBO has a show, We're Here, where Shangela, Eureka O'Hara, and Bob the Drag Queen go into small towns to help some folks (Allies, trans kids, gay kids, etc..).  Granbury, TX was the first ep of the current season.  Some real pieces of shit in Granbury.  Small town Texas comes off ignorant and hateful in this show, which based on the way people vote, well, if the shoe fits.  

One of the least shocking things I have read on the internet: small town texas full of hateful piece of shit humans. Now sports…

[safe sex 11696]

5 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

HBO has a show, We're Here, where Shangela, Eureka O'Hara, and Bob the Drag Queen go into small towns to help some folks (Allies, trans kids, gay kids, etc..).  Granbury, TX was the first ep of the current season.  Some real pieces of shit in Granbury.  Small town Texas comes off ignorant and hateful in this show, which based on the way people vote, well, if the shoe fits.  

Tbf, Eureka is incredibly easy to hate.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19100]

2 hours ago, safe sex said:

Tbf, Eureka is incredibly easy to hate.

Yeah, I am not a Eureka fan.  But on this season, so far, she seems to have mellowed.  

What amazed me is how calm they all were interacting with the bigots at the 4th of July Parade.  Shangela especially.  Can't believe I am just now watching this season.

[pacman 7355]

 

 

[Pig Bellmont 8712]

On 12/15/2022 at 1:35 AM, troph said:

I said it last week this is where they want to go. Folks might have assumed I was just being emotional. No really, they want us deleted, destroyed, erased.  It really is nazism the list is being made now, who is next?

please speak up, please stand up, please help us stop them. 

 

You should honestly leave the state

[atomheartbevo 89626]

55 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

You should honestly leave the state

I'm honestly feeling this way about a lot of friends in the same situation as troph - there's not enough of us here to help stop where this shit is going in the short term. A lot of Republican lawmakers are feeling like this is their last chance to try and do some really evil shit to people they hate, and they are pulling every play out of the book that they can. They are going to pull a Thelma and Louise and drive this state off of a cliff.

[Willfully Horn 8001]

On 1/4/2023 at 8:16 PM, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Bob the Drag Queen

This is an allsome moniker. 

[YGIFS 19449]

30 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I'm honestly feeling this way about a lot of friends in the same situation as troph - there's not enough of us here to help stop where this shit is going in the short term. A lot of Republican lawmakers are feeling like this is their last chance to try and do some really evil shit to people they hate, and they are pulling every play out of the book that they can. They are going to pull a Thelma and Louise and drive this state off of a cliff.

I know the religious right has been incredibly politically active for the last 40 years.  Then MAGA/Christian Nationalism put it into overdrive.  And we have new depths to sink to before we make our way back up to decency.  And finally, maybe this is just wishful thinking.  But this really is starting to feel like the hurried and twisted desperation of a movement that knows it's dying.  

People with this much hate in their hearts are gonna pass it around their families and communities.  But in terms of political sway, I don't see this lasting more than 7-10 years.  The support isn't there for it, demographies change, and the political will may fade like the stars at dawn.  they just can't finance and win elections without that fringe third that's not so much far-right as far-gone right.  They need their turnout in Texas otherwise and it's batshit crazy stuff like threatening young teenagers who seem different, shutting down history textbooks, and calling everything they don't like 'cancel culture' or 'wokeness.'  

Without appealing to this moronic fringe 1/3rd of the party...there are no more paths to power.  Almost everything we are gonna see out this upcoming session is basically them just 'workshopping' insane shit to that element of the TRP.  Every other session I've ever worked, I hear 80% of the time, "That's not realistic right now, it won't work politically/financially.  Even with bipartisan support."  And that's the way democracy should work.  Now, I imagine it's "You're not thinking boldly enough.  Why stop at banning books about CRT and gays?  Think broader and get back to us with a draft."  

[tx 3 putt 76869]

On 12/15/2022 at 10:41 AM, troph said:

no body really gives a shit.  I knew trans people would be first. where they go from there we will see. unfortunately the respect of marriage act didn't include trans care and bodily autonomy, nor did it include protection from employment discrimination for gays and lesbians.  will they stop at trans people?  they won't stop at preventing care for trans kids, we just found that out. will they try and walk back the other rights? maybe. will they come for other groups? I mean legit asylum seekers are on the list, they may have been first actually.  it's a nazi witch hunt. where will they stop? I guess for me it doesn't matter, it's happening.

 

why stop if they're successful the first time ?

[Brisketexan 105061]

1 hour ago, YGIFS said:

People with this much hate in their hearts are gonna pass it around their families and communities.  But in terms of political sway, I don't see this lasting more than 7-10 years.  The support isn't there for it, demographies change, and the political will may fade like the stars at dawn. 

7-10 years.

Counterpoint for your hopefulness: the Nazis came to power in 1933.  They began industrial slaughter of Jews in 1941, till 1945 (nevermind the horrors they visited on them before they started slaughtering them like cattle).  So, the whole nazi-jew bullshit lasted 8-12 years.  We don't have to imagine what a hate-fueled fascist government can do in a decade, we just need to read a book about the time it actually fucking happened.

Listen to the rhetoric.  Look at the EXACT SAME FUCKING RHETORIC as we heard in the 30s.  Listen to what their supporters are telling you they want to do.  Believe them.

If you haven't seriously considered the possibility that you are going to have to function as a shelter/smuggler for LGBTQ folks, jews....and keep going, their list is only expanding...then your thinking is behind the curve.  If you haven't considered the very real possibility that citizens who actually believe in human rights aren't going to have to exercise violent resistance, your thinking is behind the curve.

Their movement is one of murderous evil.  How do we know that?  They've told us it is.  We should believe them, and be prepared for them to do what they have promised to do.

[troph 24781]

So far…. The laws proposed are bad but the only one that impacts adults is the law that forbids state funding for healthcare. There’s a sincerely held beliefs law to deny care but nothing outlawing care all together. There are no DL or other ID laws impacting adults. 90% of the laws impact the kids which is horseshit and need to be stopped, actually much worse than coming after me. These laws do include full bans on healthcare so it’s happening. but in terms of stating the facts that’s where things stand no complete outlaw or ID outing of LGBTQ and trans adults yet. 

[atomheartbevo 89626]

6 hours ago, YGIFS said:

 But this really is starting to feel like the hurried and twisted desperation of a movement that knows it's dying.  

Absolutely, and trying to fuck around with voters proves that - they know they aren't attracting any new folks to their side, and plenty on their side are dying out because of old age, etc. so they've got to do everything they can to depress the other side.  The insane shit they are fucking around with also feels like they know this is their last chance - no more gradual stuff like Dannie Gotlieb's slowly-growing obsession with the genitals of everybody going into bathrooms.  They see the endgame, and they are trying to get as many shitty laws into the books before they are out of power, and they are hoping that those laws won't have enough support to be overturned in the future.

5 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

If you haven't seriously considered the possibility that you are going to have to function as a shelter/smuggler for LGBTQ folks, jews....and keep going, their list is only expanding...then your thinking is behind the curve. 

No, I haven't, because they don't have the numbers and Constitutional authority to do what you're suggesting, because if they did, they would have already done it when Trump was President and in charge of the DOJ/etc. (and the Rs held Congress).  Most of the stuff Abbott does are not in pursuit of some kind of absolute power over Texas, but instead things like the border wall that are limp-dicked actions that do nothing but are meant to generate buzz for his Presidential campaign, and the stuff like going after the Morning After/Plan-B pills are also there to generate buzz and placate a small number of idiots.

It's shit, and it's going to be shit for people like troph, etc., for several years to come, but you are cherry-picking the absolute worst scenario, a scenario that the Republicans in Texas, for all of their batshittery, are too incompetent and impotent to pull of.

Hell, I'm still waiting on them to try and make a run at blocking porn like Louisiana did, but so far they seem too chickenshit to do it.

[troph 24781]

I mean I’m not going to say the legislative environment is going to be easy for me or my adult peers but I will say I feel terrible for parents of trans kids and the kids themselves. Yeah kids today have the freedom to try on identities and some play LGBTQ and then drop it, others though they know it in their bones and those kids need protection, desperately need it. We aren’t giving it and they and their parents are likely going to have to move after this session. Those are the families that are going to get annihilated this year, not me barring some additional nasty bills getting filed and passed. 

Edited January 17, 2023 by troph

[RomaVicta 29902]

On 12/15/2022 at 10:29 AM, troph said:

we had our conversation this morning over coffee, wife had already seen it yesterday when I told her this morning, not moving yet but the moment the law that theoretically could be applied to us is sent to Abbott to sign we are out. I'll bug out to Colorado, she will manage our affairs to leave and we're gone. I'll have to leave my kids behind. but that's what they want.  a fucking indicted AG for federal felony securities fraud, an AG who has been sued by former employees for egregious misconduct, is creating the list.  This is NOT a drill.  FML.

Next 3-4 months during the session we will watch carefully and if it's happening we will start preparing and I'll get on the road.  have to sell our newly built house, sell our boat, figure out how to be a Texas lawyer from Colorado I guess.  She will have to figure out how to build homes in another state.  She can probably do that I guess. thank god for zoom and my good clients.

Complete destruction that's what they want. They want to destroy people.

Jesus Fascist Fucking Christ.

 

It's sicker than hate killing. It's hate killing done on an altar as a sacrifice to decency, morality, and manly manfulness. The pews are filled with the righteous chanting idiocy about protecting the children they are raising to be as savage as themselves.

Our nation's personality remains that of the insecure adolescent male. Now that weakling is sexually threatened.

Tolerance. It's none of my business. No harm is being done. I think I'd brainwash every American to keep those ideas at the front of their minds. I'd also program them to be less fearful.

[RomaVicta 29902]

On 12/27/2022 at 10:04 AM, wildcat09 said:

Just a guess, but I'd bet Chaya Raichik is a lesbian and that, combined with her ultra-conservative upbringing, is the reason for all this bullshit.

They do keep insisting it's a choice. I think anybody claiming that must have that "choice" going on in themselves.

This line of reasoning hit me years ago. I believed the gay community at the time when they said they were born homosexual. Certainly my brother was. I'm as wired in my way as he is in his. Never seemed like orientation was choice for either of us. 

Now this movement comes along claiming sexuality is a choice thus evil because homosexual persons are committing an Old Testament sin! I've decided to take them at their word. They're on that part of the spectrum where they could go either way or they're full on homosexual and hate themselves.

Now it's pretty clear there is a spectrum of orientation. We're all on it together. Let there be harmony.

The selection of the trans population as a target is truly just fascist bullying as described by man above. The fascists could win without a large segment of the population even noticing. Maybe they'll be nervous about sporadic violence and shooting, but most of them will process it like they do everything on TV. Add a little narcissism of distressed selfies because the power is out and then can hear shooting. 

They won't join in. They'll remain spectators.

I'm rambling tonight. I don't like being resigned that the country I thought I knew is something far different. I got the white man blinders. Trying to shed them.