Texas A&M Recruiting 2025: The Land of Melk & No Money

[BurntOrange&White 39817]

"on that visit"

[Pato del Muerto 52384]

Not that it isn’t a bullshit excuse, but isn’t he the one that said he’s cancelling for a specific reason related to team or family, and not just cancelled because aggy locked him down?   That seems like something to report on if it’s his public explanation. 

[kevwun 15680]

Aggie 9.95ers are contractually obligated to positively spin every piece of news they report.

[BurntOrange&White 39817]

8 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Aggie 9.95ers are contractually obligated to positively spin every piece of news they report.

Per Tarp, triple checked by admin!

[Deej 76628]

6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Per Tarp, triple checked by admin!

[Foosters 17768]

19 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Not that it isn’t a bullshit excuse, but isn’t he the one that said he’s cancelling for a specific reason related to team or family, and not just cancelled because aggy locked him down?   That seems like something to report on if it’s his public explanation. 

I thinks that's what he told our 9.95ers - that his friend was having surgery and he wanted to be there for him or something? Honestly, about the worst one of those I've heard, and I doubt he told the aggy insiders the same

[BurntOrange&White 39817]

3 minutes ago, Foosters said:

I thinks that's what he told our 9.95ers - that his friend was having surgery and he wanted to be there for him or something? Honestly, about the worst one of those I've heard, and I doubt he told the aggy insiders the same

That or the car trouble excuse

[kevwun 15680]

The last minute car trouble/couldn't get a ride was always code for bags were dropped by another school to get a visit cancelled.

[RomaVicta 29836]

It's worth recalling that the above picture was snapped at a nationally televised game where most of us got our first real look at Elko. He knew he was going to be on camera and that's how he showed up. I'd had no idea what he looked like. My only thought was that he better be a brilliant coach if he thinks this is an adequate image for the face of the program.

As we learned, it wasn't a one off. He doesn't give a shit.

I look like shit a lot of the time, but if I were a millionaire heading a multi-million dollar operation, I'd go to a fucking tailor and hire a consultant. Snappy white t-shirt under the gorgeous sweatshirt. 

Edited September 26 by RomaVicta

[Scholz 11938]

42 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

"on that visit"

Exactly. If I were a gambling man, I’d bet he shows up for the Georgia game when a bunch of other remaining recruits are coming.

[texifornia 56594]

9 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

It's worth recalling that the above picture was snapped at a nationally televised game where most of us got our first real look at Elko. He knew he was going to be on camera and that's how he showed up. I'd had no idea what he looked like. My only thought was that he better be a brilliant coach if he thinks this is an adequate image for the face of the program.

As we learned, it wasn't a one off. He doesn't give a shit.

I look like shit a lot of the time, but if I were a millionaire heading a multi-million dollar operation, I'd go to a fucking tailor and hire a consultant. Snappy white t-shirt under the gorgeous sweatshirt. 

Can't find a decent quality version, but I have never been more confident a coach was a bust in his first game than when I saw this. No charisma, no excitement, no nothing.

[Fondren & Main 6679]

It's actually perfect that the gomers hired Private Pyle to be their head coach.

[RomaVicta 29836]

19 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Can't find a decent quality version, but I have never been more confident a coach was a bust in his first game than when I saw this. No charisma, no excitement, no nothing.

I believe I wrote that he looks like a guy who won the shot-put in the Special Olympics who was made honorary coach for a day. 

Again, I'm not a fashion maven, but wear a maroon polo. Maybe try a windbreaker. The tennis shoes are even iffy.

"Is this where I stand?"

Edited September 26 by RomaVicta

[nnm 36206]

1 hour ago, Longhornfrenzy said:

[VirginiaLonghorn 4759]

On 9/25/2024 at 11:10 AM, Armybrat said:

Weigman could transfer into the ND seminary.

He’d need a Mahomes style helmet to wear over his mitre …

[BurntOrange&White 39817]

55 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Can't find a decent quality version, but I have never been more confident a coach was a bust in his first game than when I saw this. No charisma, no excitement, no nothing.

The side view from that game was way worse. 

[leaf 681]

23 hours ago, Napoleon said:

 

 

One exception when “Myself” is a subjective pronoun:

”I am myself when I am around friends…”

”I am not myself at work…”

When using “to be”, but it still does not start a sentence. 
 

Okay, I am off to enjoy a gloomy Brooklyn autumn afternoon/evening. You all can talk among(st) yourselves. 👀

[Napoleon 8634]

8 minutes ago, leaf said:

Excellent example of it being used INCORRECTLY (1st use) and correct (2nd use).

You got the joke!

[Post Oak 20191]

Well maybe check to see if Floyd Guidry wants to come to a game

[Wiler77 1558]

1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

It's worth recalling that the above picture was snapped at a nationally televised game where most of us got our first real look at Elko. He knew he was going to be on camera and that's how he showed up. I'd had no idea what he looked like. My only thought was that he better be a brilliant coach if he thinks this is an adequate image for the face of the program.

As we learned, it wasn't a one off. He doesn't give a shit.

I look like shit a lot of the time, but if I were a millionaire heading a multi-million dollar operation, I'd go to a fucking tailor and hire a consultant. Snappy white t-shirt under the gorgeous sweatshirt. 

It's the difference between "he doesn't give a SHIT!" and "he doesn't GIVE a shit."

The difference is what are the results on the field. If he's winning, who fucking cares if the head coach shows up in tailored clothes? He doesn't have time to look good for you. He's too busy winning football games.

If he's losing, then he's a fucking slob whose game prep resembles the attention to detail he gives himself when he leaves for the office.

Now, if you look like a slob and have Mack-level paranoia on 9.95 reports and go 7-5 in year 1, you better have some thick fucking skin and believe in your ability to turn it around.

[texifornia 56594]

8 minutes ago, Wiler77 said:

It's the difference between "he doesn't give a SHIT!" and "he doesn't GIVE a shit."

The difference is what are the results on the field. If he's winning, who fucking cares if the head coach shows up in tailored clothes? He doesn't have time to look good for you. He's too busy winning football games.

If he's losing, then he's a fucking slob whose game prep resembles the attention to detail he gives himself when he leaves for the office.

Now, if you look like a slob and have Mack-level paranoia on 9.95 reports and go 7-5 in year 1, you better have some thick fucking skin and believe in your ability to turn it around.

Right. The counterpoint to a lot of Elko is a slob talk is Josh Heupel.

Edited September 26 by texifornia

[Hiphopopotamos 20865]

4 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

It looks like the transfer from Utah will be the guy. He started 8 games for Utah last year. I'm not sure why he wasn't playing already. While there is certainly a reason he's running 3rd string, I can't imagine the difference between him and Shanahan is all that great. He's at least an upperclassman and has some experience.

The A&M/Arkansas game is always such a weird shitshow. Both teams do multiple stupid things for three quarters, and then Arkansas always seems to find a way to shoot themselves in the dick at the end to lose.

If there were ever a year for the Hogs to get over on A&M, you would think this is it. Arkansas can move the ball. They have the best offense that A&M has seen so far (low bar) and Bobby Petrino running a wide open system going up and down the field on them would be serious comedy. But who knows which Arkansas team is going to show up week to week? They didn't play well against Auburn, but got 5 turnovers and pulled out the win. They dominated the stats against Oklahoma State and somehow found a way to lose. 

That transfer from Utah that’s now starting for Elko was the 240th (out of 276) graded C in 2023. 

[Elmer_Fudd 22141]

It's really not a surprise the aggy DL isn't playing well.  It was noted at the time of the hire that Sean Spencer isn't a very good coach.

[Rudiger 1160]

21 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

It's really not a surprise the aggy DL isn't playing well.  It was noted at the time of the hire that Sean Spencer isn't a very good coach.

Nobody can figure out why he’s having the DTs do the jump pass drill. 

[nnm 36206]

2 hours ago, texifornia said:

Right. The counterpoint to a lot of Elko is a slob talk is Josh Heupel.

Brady-era Belichick. 

3 hours ago, leaf said:

 

[Frank Drebin 5635]

4 hours ago, Fondren & Main said:

It's actually perfect that the gomers hired Private Pyle to be their head coach.

D'Onofrio gained 70 pounds for that role and weighed 280 pounds at the beginning of filming.  Elko has at least 50 pounds on Private Pyle.

[Xminus6 790]

12 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

It's worth recalling that the above picture was snapped at a nationally televised game where most of us got our first real look at Elko. He knew he was going to be on camera and that's how he showed up. I'd had no idea what he looked like. My only thought was that he better be a brilliant coach if he thinks this is an adequate image for the face of the program.

As we learned, it wasn't a one off. He doesn't give a shit.

I look like shit a lot of the time, but if I were a millionaire heading a multi-million dollar operation, I'd go to a fucking tailor and hire a consultant. Snappy white t-shirt under the gorgeous sweatshirt. 

If you’re going to be that pudgy and schlumphy, you can at least cross your arms or something so your shoulders don’t look like a rained-on dirt berm. The guy just lets his stupid arms hang by his sides like they’re paralyzed appendages. It makes him look even worse. He’s definitely not making the best of what he’s got physically.

He’s got the same silhouette as an inflatable clown punching bag.

Edited September 27 by Xminus6

[BurntOrange&White 39817]

 

 

@texifornia here is that side angle from the broadcast

 

Edited September 27 by BurntOrange&White

[Broark 22]

The Elk has that Humpty Dumpty physique. 😮‍💨

[Longhornfrenzy 5620]

Three things are getting shorter every Friday 

[Bill Lumbergh 7171]

5 minutes ago, Longhornfrenzy said:

Three things are getting shorter every Friday 

1) I love seeing recruits turn out in force, like say, these two guys. No one will commit, though 

2) We should celebrate Sims not making a trip to Austin this weekend that he's likely to make later. I still think we sign him. Probably. Maybe. 

3) If you're wondering if we'll pursue a specific player at a position of need, sure. Anything could happen. Who the fuck knows. 

Thanks for the money.

[Funk Doctor Spock 12109]

7 minutes ago, Longhornfrenzy said:

Three things are getting shorter every Friday 

Over/under commitments this weekend at 0.5 is certainly going out on a limb. 

Following it up with Chace Sims canceling his OV, but contradicts himself by saying he thinks Sims will make a future visit here. 

Those morons. 

[nnm 36206]

13 minutes ago, Longhornfrenzy said:

Three things are getting shorter every Friday 

He’s just mailing it in at this point. He’s like the 25-year middle manager who realizes he’s never going to make VP, has maxed out in comp, sees all the corporate dysfunction, knows that nothing he does makes a difference to the company or the greater good, and doesn’t like anyone he works with. Sure, he’ll show up 9ish to 4ish, and make the mandatory meetings, fill out his weekly reports, but he’s done, and everyone knows that. 

[closetojumping 62271]

49 minutes ago, nnm said:

He’s just mailing it in at this point. He’s like the 25-year middle manager who realizes he’s never going to make VP, has maxed out in comp, sees all the corporate dysfunction, knows that nothing he does makes a difference to the company or the greater good, and doesn’t like anyone he works with. Sure, he’ll show up 9ish to 4ish, and make the mandatory meetings, fill out his weekly reports, but he’s done, and everyone knows that. 

This is a dark description, vividly portraying the soulless banality of a niche in corporate America. Only someone who’s lived it could tell it so well. 

[Fondren & Main 6679]

Well, everyone knows but aggy.

[closetojumping 62271]

Ahead of the dawn of NIL, we all debated what it could all mean, and many argued various points about the presence of the bag game in that future era.

-Some proclaimed that NIL wouldn’t matter and that the bag game would rage on.

-Others said the bag game would disappear forever. 

-Some of us discussed how dark markets function even when an open market is also present. 

The latter is what has unfolded. Just like bootlegging moonshine still exists as a thing, the bag game is still around for purpose with those willing to be involved. It’s not prominent, but it can make an appearance if a player or family is connected to someone willing to take a bag in lieu of the right long term answer for the player. This could be a street agent or a trainer or, kind of unbelievably, a high school coach. 

Many times in the past few years, the stickiness of that character in a recruitment has been melted away if the family can get back to a campus where the coaches can get real about the earning power through NIL and the player’s rights. 

 

[Pato del Muerto 52384]

You don’t have to cheat anymore!

but we like to cheat.  And we realize, now, that we can’t compete in the open market in the way in which we’d like, so cheating is our workaround.  You are probably cheating too since you are so successful. Ya dumb sip. 

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

Perhaps it’s because I’m petty and shortsighted, but with the advent of above board NIL I think I’d be very tempted to see what could be done about Al Caponing people who take the bags. 

“Hello, Mr. Handler, I’m from the IRS and I have a few questions for you…”

[Junior Bonner 6237]

1 hour ago, nnm said:

He’s just mailing it in at this point. He’s like the 25-year middle manager who realizes he’s never going to make VP, has maxed out in comp, sees all the corporate dysfunction, knows that nothing he does makes a difference to the company or the greater good, and doesn’t like anyone he works with. Sure, he’ll show up 9ish to 4ish, and make the mandatory meetings, fill out his weekly reports, but he’s done, and everyone knows that. 

I feel seen… 

[billfromlaketravis 11377]

2 hours ago, Longhornfrenzy said:

Three things are getting shorter every Friday 

Justin Hopkins says Oregon isn’t done with Mikhail. He said Lanning really wants him, and he’ll make a push late. I’ll buy it. Hopkins is basically an Oregon street agent. 

[MirrOlure 14686]

So if there’s a good football player out there that plays a football position, they’ll consider adding him to their football team? Interesting.

[Pato del Muerto 52384]

31 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

So if there’s a good football player out there that plays a football position, they’ll consider adding him to their football team? Interesting.

[CDC4Heisman 10]

2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Ahead of the dawn of NIL, we all debated what it could all mean, and many argued various points about the presence of the bag game in that future era.

-Some proclaimed that NIL wouldn’t matter and that the bag game would rage on.

-Others said the bag game would disappear forever. 

-Some of us discussed how dark markets function even when an open market is also present. 

The latter is what has unfolded. Just like bootlegging moonshine still exists as a thing, the bag game is still around for purpose with those willing to be involved. It’s not prominent, but it can make an appearance if a player or family is connected to someone willing to take a bag in lieu of the right long term answer for the player. This could be a street agent or a trainer or, kind of unbelievably, a high school coach. 

Many times in the past few years, the stickiness of that character in a recruitment has been melted away if the family can get back to a campus where the coaches can get real about the earning power through NIL and the player’s rights. 

 

Yeah I feel like this play has been run a few times re:ATM where a commit gets an under the table 'bonus' to cancel a visit or do something else that, if nothing else, helps perceived momentum. No idea on the mechanics but 'i'll give you this bag today if you don't visit this weekend' feels about right to me, and seems to have been hinted at by mods on both sides.

My supposition is that the standard MO of the fabled aggy pool party was similar to this. Have someone take each kid aside, offer them x amount, give them a sweetener if they commit on the 'one day special', and then hotbox them to commit with coaches/players/other commits applying pressure. This, of course, started right before NIL, but I bet continues on on some level with the grey area mentioned above

[pacman 7340]

5 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

 

@texifornia here is that side angle from the broadcast

 

we will be seeing elko in this any day now

[Whitewater Horn 966]

4 hours ago, nnm said:

He’s just mailing it in at this point. He’s like the 25-year middle manager who realizes he’s never going to make VP, has maxed out in comp, sees all the corporate dysfunction, knows that nothing he does makes a difference to the company or the greater good, and doesn’t like anyone he works with. Sure, he’ll show up 9ish to 4ish, and make the mandatory meetings, fill out his weekly reports, but he’s done, and everyone knows that. 

Probably a real stickler for the new cover sheets on TPS reports. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 12109]

5 hours ago, MirrOlure said:

So if there’s a good football player out there that plays a football position, they’ll consider adding him to their football team? Interesting.

Never heard of this claim. How does this work? 

[Scarlett 103]

10 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

 

@texifornia here is that side angle from the broadcast

 

How does this happen? Has no one ever told this poor sap that darker clothes are more slimming?

[SHOOTER12 8795]

11 hours ago, Scarlett said:

How does this happen? Has no one ever told this poor sap that darker clothes are more slimming?

Watched Hitchcock vs Bellville game on TV. The Hitchcock coach(HC?) was bigger than Melko and the old Kansas coach put together. Absolute disgrace when you can barely stand/walk on the sideline.

[Victor R. Franko 90]

18 hours ago, CDC4Heisman said:

Yeah I feel like this play has been run a few times re:ATM where a commit gets an under the table 'bonus' to cancel a visit or do something else that, if nothing else, helps perceived momentum. No idea on the mechanics but 'i'll give you this bag today if you don't visit this weekend' feels about right to me, and seems to have been hinted at by mods on both sides.

My supposition is that the standard MO of the fabled aggy pool party was similar to this. Have someone take each kid aside, offer them x amount, give them a sweetener if they commit on the 'one day special', and then hotbox them to commit with coaches/players/other commits applying pressure. This, of course, started right before NIL, but I bet continues on on some level with the grey area mentioned above

So what's to keep a player/recruit from using the Dickerson end around? Tell A&M everything they want to hear, place fat bag here. Commit on the pool party one day special, place fat bag here. Meanwhile negotiate with desirable team that may win something during my time there. Post negotiations, de-Commit and sign up with a legit NIL deal above board and IRS compliant. 

When aggy complains I tell them what Dickerson did. You want me to tell everyone where I got this money and why?

If I was a stud recruit, I'd be tempted to do this, seems like easy money to me. Easy CASH money that disappears as gasoline, toys, clothes, booze, restaurant meals, computers for family and friends. Bag droppers seem like they want this type of compensation from a player/recruit. 

 

Bag Droppers playing the bag game in the time of legit above board NIL contracts, IMHO will get you broke. A fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place.

[Dbeasy 15007]

It will be very interesting to see if Sims didn’t visit this weekend because of a “weekend visit” bag, what does that mean? Someone pays to not visit this particular weekend? If so, what an incredible waste of money. Might as well flush dollar bills down the toilet. Or is it to not visit Texas at all? Because if it is the latter, then why are the Ags unsure about a later visit?