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  On 12/28/2022 at 6:41 PM, BigOrange1 said:
he comes across as a miserable prick.  which isn't surprising given his political views.  it's not hard to see why players are getting the fuck out of there as fast as they can.

What political views would that be? Guy’s never had a public political opinion in his life!
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The guy has an amazing career record at a difficult school to win consistently at.  They were 12-2 last year.  This season was bad.  I wouldn't count them out this soon.  Although, it does appear that something has gone really wrong there.  It'll be interesting to watch.   

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one's politics are irrelevant if they don't interfere with one's job

oSu has been more than relevant during our decade in the wilderness

as the enemy of our enemy they should be a natural ally, but for whatever reason were made the chosen instrument to fuck us

so, zero fucks given

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  On 12/28/2022 at 7:04 PM, MonkeyDoughnut said:

I'm with Gundy on this one... it's not the reporters job to ask him stupid questions knowing Gundy would be an ass to answer it right there.

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I'm with Gundy on this one, but unfortunately it is the reporter's job to ask, even though you could argue they shouldn't. It's just the nature of that beast. Maybe once ever has anything good or important ever come out of putting some coach on stage to answer reporters' questions immediately after they lost a game. I don't see why we needed to hear from him or those players. Entirely too much access to coaches and players vs. any true, real, and/or relevant information we get. 

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Gundy's in a really odd spot. He's made a ton of money, brought a level of success to oSu football they've never had before, and yet his reputation of unexplainable losses every season PLUS pissing his pants almost annually against ou combined with being a thin skinned prick makes him far less popular in Stillwater than he probably deserves to be. Now he's really caught in almost a lose-lose situation.

They should move up the food chain and be one of the bigger brands in the B12 once Texas and OU move to the SEC. They'll have a far better chance of getting into the expanded playoffs. And yet, are they really poised for success in this new era of NIL and the transfer portal? 

Maybe he'll stick around in Stillwater another decade and pocket another $75-100mil. Maybe he decides he needs to leave behind his "dream job" and finds an opening at a B10 or ACC school looking to make a "splash" hire. I can't imagine he'd ever be forced out at oSu unless he starts losing 8+ games a year for multiple seasons. 

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  On 12/28/2022 at 7:04 PM, MonkeyDoughnut said:

I'm with Gundy on this one... it's not the reporters job to ask him stupid questions knowing Gundy would be an ass to answer it right there.

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It is absolutely a reporter's job to ask any and every question he can think of, no matter someone's opinion about the question. A reporter should especially ask uncomfortable and/or "gotcha" questions. It's not the job to consider how it would make the subject feel to have to answer a particular question. Get the fuck out with that shit. 

Aside from that, Gundy shouldn't be admired or given an attaboy for his behavior. He's a 55 year old adult that earns $7.5 million a year. That money is given with the accepted and understood responsibility to handle a question he might not like without resorting to personal attacks and threats. That's the minimum and he can't even do that. He's the second longest tenured coach in FBS, a job that is generally short-lived and ends in humiliation. He has experienced none of that. Outside a few years at Baylor and Maryland, his entire coaching career has been in Stillwater where he was already revered as a former star QB. He has zero excuse to act like a petulant child at a bowl game press conference. Zero.

I also disagree with the notion that OSU couldn't enjoy the same success they've had with a new HC. It's a brave new world and nobody knows how the table will look when the chairs settle. Uncouple from OU and stake their own claim. Lean into B12 rivalries with Tech, Baylor, TCU and Houston to keep recruiting Texas. Without tripping over their dick every year at Bedlam, there's absolutely no reason OSU can't be a cyclical playoff team, with any half-decent coach. Personally, the Bedlam dick tripping has always said to me that Gundy would never get over the hump and win a title. But OSU most certainly can.

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  On 12/28/2022 at 8:49 PM, GhostOfTomJoad said:

Maybe he'll stick around in Stillwater another decade and pocket another $75-100mil. Maybe he decides he needs to leave behind his "dream job" and finds an opening at a B10 or ACC school looking to make a "splash" hire. I can't imagine he'd ever be forced out at oSu unless he starts losing 8+ games a year for multiple seasons. 

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Next season (2023) seems like a crossroad year for Gundy.  Losing Jim Knowles was a huge loss for Gundy and okie lite -- not so sure that his replacement (Derek Mason) was the right hire for a B12 defensive coordinator.

Gundy may be pissed by the reporter's question, but Mike needs to make some changes to his coaching and recruiting staffs for 2023.  

"Adapt or Die"

 

 

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OSU is going to be a big part of the crumbling of the big 12. Along with Baylor, they likely will fall the farthest. Small-town schools that have been semi-relevant nationally but appear unlikely to have enough success recruiting and retaining talent to matter much anymore. WVU went ahead and decided to fall into a toilet early.

Tech hasn't been worth national FB attention since they fired Leach. KSU hasn't since Snyder was in his first century of coaching them. Kansas had like one year under Mangino. ISU's version of success is when people remember that they are an actual DI school that once almost beat their more famous yet eternally mediocre "rival," Iowa.

The only current B12 school that will likely matter more than incidentally on the national stage after staying in the league is TCU. They are in a major metropolitan area, have a few alumni who can afford to help with some NIL, and are getting good exposure in the CFP a year before we dump this hole. Of course, getting exposed isn't always a good thing-- they'd better remember not to soil themselves against Michigan.

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  On 12/28/2022 at 11:37 PM, Magus Ossis said:

Only current B12 school likely to matter is TCU.  Of course, getting exposed isn't a good thing-- they'd better remember not to soil themselves against Michigan.

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Damn I hope Michigan turns the horned toads into roadkill on Saturday... 😋

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  On 12/28/2022 at 8:49 PM, GhostOfTomJoad said:

Gundy's in a really odd spot. He's made a ton of money, brought a level of success to oSu football they've never had before, and yet his reputation of unexplainable losses every season PLUS pissing his pants almost annually against ou combined with being a thin skinned prick makes him far less popular in Stillwater than he probably deserves to be. Now he's really caught in almost a lose-lose situation.

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You could substitute Patterson/TCU/FW for Gundy/oSu/Stillwater and not have to change another word and the whole thing reads true.

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  On 12/28/2022 at 8:11 PM, Smax said:
His support of OAN

You have any idea how much unsolicited crap these guys get sent to them? He picked a gimme shirt out of a pile and wore it fishing. Some BLM guys tell Chuba Hubbard, a freakin Canadian who I guarantee you had never heard of OAN, that he should be offended. Shit gets blown out of proportion, Gundy has to eat some undeserved crow, and loses a shit ton of money. Guy’s been a coach in Stillwater for 20 years and has never endorsed so much as a city councilman. I have no idea what his position on any political argument may be, and neither does anyone else.
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  On 12/29/2022 at 6:24 AM, GoPokes83 said:


You have any idea how much unsolicited crap these guys get sent to them? He picked a gimme shirt out of a pile and wore it fishing. Some BLM guys tell Chuba Hubbard, a freakin Canadian who I guarantee you had never heard of OAN, that he should be offended. Shit gets blown out of proportion, Gundy has to eat some undeserved crow, and loses a shit ton of money. Guy’s been a coach in Stillwater for 20 years and has never endorsed so much as a city councilman. I have no idea what his position on any political argument may be, and neither does anyone else.

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Come on now. He knew what he was wearing. 

You can wear a lot of things but putting it out online is another thing altogether. If he didn't know he damn sure should have.

"OAN? Who is that?" 

"Dad, I don't know. Maybe Google it."

Walla done. Massive PR hit avoided. But, no he didn't and if I am being straight up he knew EXACTLY who they are and what they stand for. 

He has a thin skin. He can't abide critical looks. It's going to burn him in the long run.

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One conference championship in a generation isn’t exactly the benchmark of a great coach. We have a really nice consecutive winning season streak going, and we always make some middle of the pack bowl game, and that’s more than enough for way too many of our fans. Gundy’s brought us to a level we’ve never had, but we’ve been stalled in the middle of the road for a few years now, and he’s not the guy to get us any further.

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  On 12/29/2022 at 6:35 AM, cactusflinthead said:
Come on now. He knew what he was wearing. 
You can wear a lot of things but putting it out online is another thing altogether. If he didn't know he damn sure should have.
"OAN? Who is that?" 
"Dad, I don't know. Maybe Google it."
Walla done. Massive PR hit avoided. But, no he didn't and if I am being straight up he knew EXACTLY who they are and what they stand for. 
He has a thin skin. He can't abide critical looks. It's going to burn him in the long run.

What would I know. I’ve only been following him since the 80’s, while you’ve read some tweets and Facebook posts. Obviously I stand corrected.
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  On 12/29/2022 at 6:24 AM, GoPokes83 said:


You have any idea how much unsolicited crap these guys get sent to them? He picked a gimme shirt out of a pile and wore it fishing. Some BLM guys tell Chuba Hubbard, a freakin Canadian who I guarantee you had never heard of OAN, that he should be offended. Shit gets blown out of proportion, Gundy has to eat some undeserved crow, and loses a shit ton of money. Guy’s been a coach in Stillwater for 20 years and has never endorsed so much as a city councilman. I have no idea what his position on any political argument may be, and neither does anyone else.

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  On 12/29/2022 at 6:50 AM, GoPokes83 said:


What would I know. I’ve only been following him since the 80’s, while you’ve read some tweets and Facebook posts. Obviously I stand corrected.

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  On 12/29/2022 at 6:47 AM, GoPokes83 said:

One conference championship in a generation isn’t exactly the benchmark of a great coach. We have a really nice consecutive winning season streak going, and we always make some middle of the pack bowl game, and that’s more than enough for way too many of our fans. Gundy’s brought us to a level we’ve never had, but we’ve been stalled in the middle of the road for a few years now, and he’s not the guy to get us any further.

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How many did we have again when our 2nd most successful coach in program history was here?

[ducks]

 

Let us not forget just how dogshit that program was historically.

 

The big12 has a lot of programs with a history of sucking beyond belief.

ISU

Kansas

Kansas St

OSU

Baylor

TCU

All have been Terri-bad for decades upon decades.

That’s 60% of our current conference.

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Imagine giving two shits about a free t-shirt a coach wore outdoors once, and also thinking it's a good idea to ask a coach which staff members he's canning five minutes after a loss. 

 

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Yeah it's not like he publicly admitted to having to apologize to his players about it. Or never said this:

It's One America News. And it was so refreshing. They just report the news. There's no commentary. There's no opinions on this. There's no left. There's no right. They just reported the news. And I've been watching them the last week, because they're given us the news and given us more information — in my opinion — some of the positives are coming out. So, that was refreshing.

You mother fuckers are such bad liars, it's incredible.

 

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Oh let's not forget this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/13/okla-state-coach-mike-gundy-blames-liberalism-snowflake-millennial-college-athletes-transferring-schools/

Gee I fucking wonder what the political leanings of a dude that talks like that are. It's a god damn mystery.

E: And don't forget his retarded COVID tirade 

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  On 12/29/2022 at 6:50 AM, GoPokes83 said:


What would I know. I’ve only been following him since the 80’s, while you’ve read some tweets and Facebook posts. Obviously I stand corrected.

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You know, when I get a free t shirt I really dig in and research how great the company that gave me that t shirt is.  
 

Oh, and since you’ve been ‘following him since the 80’s’ you’re a MUCH bigger expert than someone who read some tweets and FB posts.  Because you’ve read some tweets, FB posts, AND read The Daily Oklahoman.  LOL 
 

It's One America News. And it was so refreshing. They just report the news. There's no commentary. There's no opinions on this. There's no left. There's no right. They just reported the news. And I've been watching them the last week, because they're given us the news and given us more information — in my opinion — some of the positives are coming out. So, that was refreshing.

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  On 12/29/2022 at 6:24 AM, GoPokes83 said:


You have any idea how much unsolicited crap these guys get sent to them? He picked a gimme shirt out of a pile and wore it fishing. Some BLM guys tell Chuba Hubbard, a freakin Canadian who I guarantee you had never heard of OAN, that he should be offended. Shit gets blown out of proportion, Gundy has to eat some undeserved crow, and loses a shit ton of money. Guy’s been a coach in Stillwater for 20 years and has never endorsed so much as a city councilman. I have no idea what his position on any political argument may be, and neither does anyone else.

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I like Gundy. College football is better with him in it. But, it's not like some random shirt showed up in the mail. On April 8, 2020 he was critical of the negative reporting of the "mainstream media" regarding Covid. Then, continued with this:

"I tell you what's funny is, I was flipping through stations. I found one—I don't even know if anybody knows about this—it's called OAN. It's One America News. And it was so refreshing. They just report the news. There's no commentary. There's no opinions on this. There's no left. There's no right. They just reported the news. And I've been watching them the last week, because they're giving us the news and giving us more information—in my opinion—some of the positives are coming out. So, that was refreshing."

Two days later, OAN emailed him to send him the shirt and Gundy immediately responded with enthusiasm. 

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I don't know how anyone could watch OAN for any amount of time and claim it is not opinion based, but whatever, he made a mistake. It happens. As far as not knowing his position on any political issue, his full April 8, 2020 statement gives a pretty decent look into how he leans, and there's not anything wrong with that, as he's in line with about half the country.

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Gundy's like a lot of HCs who want you to know--sometimes not so subtley-- that they're the smartest person in the room. His act is to preface a comment with the "I'm just a football coach so what do I know," and then proceeds to pepper his dialogue with all kinds of shots and jabs at reporters designed to make them know that he's in charge and if you want anything more than a wet fart in response to a question you'd better come to understand that.

This is another reason why Stillwater is as good of a fit as he's likely to ever find. OU dominates the sports media coverage in the state, and OKC is barely a top 50 market. Prior to social media explosion, Gundy knew he could say whatever he wanted to a reporter from OKC or Tulsa and it would barely make a ripple. He's now entrenched as One of the Coaches Who Might Say Something Crazy which is why the reporters don't mind baiting him especially after a bad beat. All press is probably good press in Stilly.

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  On 12/29/2022 at 2:24 PM, UncleBuck said:

Imagine giving two shits about a free t-shirt a coach wore outdoors once, and also thinking it's a good idea to ask a coach which staff members he's canning five minutes after a loss. 

 

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Yeah…that’s not at all what the reporter asked. He asked him if he anticipated making any staff changes. Completely reasonable question, and if Gundy didn’t want to answer candidly all he had to do was give the same non answer we’ve heard a million coaches give:

”Well, none of those decisions have been made yet. We’re going to do what we always do after the season, sit down and evaluate every part of this program from the top down and we’ll go from there”

Instead of saying that he decided to have a little tantrum. Mainly because he’s a thin skinned asshole who was in his feelings after seeing his team completely crumble over the second half of the season. 

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  On 12/29/2022 at 3:51 PM, UncleSonny said:

Yeah…that’s not at all what the reporter asked. He asked him if he anticipated making any staff changes. Completely reasonable question, and if Gundy didn’t want to answer candidly all he had to do was give the same non answer we’ve heard a million coaches give:

”Well, none of those decisions have been made yet. We’re going to do what we always do after the season, sit down and evaluate every part of this program from the top down and we’ll go from there”

Instead of saying that he decided to have a little tantrum. Mainly because he’s a thin skinned asshole who was in his feelings after seeing his team completely crumble over the second half of the season. 

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Eh, it was hyperbole. And sure, it's a reasonable question for the reporter to ask given the environment of sports and sports media reporting, I just happen to disagree with that environment existing as it does. Questions as such five minutes (<--also hyperbole, as it's normally somewhere more around 20-30) after a loss, or at any time tbh, rarely if ever generate any answers of substance, and do not really benefit a coach to answer honestly. It's just a meaningless dog and pony show that I believe could be made to provide more relevant content if managed better. 

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It was a really nice way of asking "hey, is anyone gonna be held accountable for the dogshit performances that your team has put on the field during the second half of this season?"

 

He couldn't even handle that. I'd love to see his head explode if someone actually asked him a legitimate hard-hitting question.

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  On 12/29/2022 at 4:18 PM, Pam Cummings said:

It was a really nice way of asking "hey, is anyone gonna be held accountable for the dogshit performances that your team has put on the field during the second half of this season?"

 

 

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And as we've learned over the past 70 or so years, coaches don't like talking to reporters about stuff like that. 

Literally the biggest thing that question accomplished was to remind everyone that the HC of Okie Steak once wore an OAN T-Shirt fishing. 

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  On 12/29/2022 at 4:22 PM, UncleBuck said:

And as we've learned over the past 70 or so years, coaches don't like talking to reporters about stuff like that. 

Literally the biggest thing that question accomplished was to remind everyone that the HC of Okie Steak once wore an OAN T-Shirt fishing. 

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Answering those questions comes with the territory of being a football coach too. Kind of a high stakes job. People are going to ask stuff like that. Maybe be prepared for it. Again, not even really a tough question. At all.

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  On 12/29/2022 at 5:33 PM, Pam Cummings said:

Answering those questions comes with the territory of being a football coach too. Kind of a high stakes job. People are going to ask stuff like that. Maybe be prepared for it. Again, not even really a tough question. At all.

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I guess he has changed his tune since he said "Come after me! I'm a man! I'm 40!"  Or maybe he meant that as "Come after me, so that we know who to remove their access to the program they cover."

 

Are you kidding me? Where are we at in society today? Come after me! I'm a man! I'm 40! I'm not-- I'm not a kid. Write something about me, or our coaches. 

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  On 12/29/2022 at 5:33 PM, Pam Cummings said:

Answering those questions comes with the territory of being a football coach too. Kind of a high stakes job. People are going to ask stuff like that. Maybe be prepared for it. Again, not even really a tough question. At all.

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Yah, you're missing my entire point I've been trying to make in my replies here. Yes, it comes with the territory. But should it? No. The majority of the time (basically always), no coach is going to give any useful information for such a question, just an empty quote a journalist can fill a report with. Filler. Sure, there's different ways to correctly answer that question: "Like every offseason, we're going to sit down and evaluate everything, from staff to players, where we got better during the season, things we can get better at, and then go from there." That's a correct answer. Also, absolutely zero useful information. No value whatsoever outside of giving a journalist/reporter extra words to fill paper/air time with. It's a joke and has been. 

I guess if you like such wisdom as, "we're gunna work on it,"/"we gotta try harder."/"that one's one me."/"gotta play better." yada yada presser after presser, week after week, then I probably won't change your mind. 

 

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  On 12/29/2022 at 7:19 PM, UncleBuck said:

Yah, you're missing my entire point I've been trying to make in my replies here. Yes, it comes with the territory. But should it? No. The majority of the time (basically always), no coach is going to give any useful information for such a question, just an empty quote a journalist can fill a report with. Filler. Sure, there's different ways to correctly answer that question: "Like every offseason, we're going to sit down and evaluate everything, from staff to players, where we got better during the season, things we can get better at, and then go from there." That's a correct answer. Also, absolutely zero useful information. No value whatsoever outside of giving a journalist/reporter extra words to fill paper/air time with. It's a joke and has been. 

I guess if you like such wisdom as, "we're gunna work on it,"/"we gotta try harder."/"that one's one me."/"gotta play better." yada yada presser after presser, week after week, then I probably won't change your mind. 

 

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But if that is the reasoning, why even have media availability at all.  We might as well just wait until Oklahoma makes a press release.  I'm sure that is what coaches would prefer.

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  On 12/29/2022 at 8:32 PM, Texas Wahoo said:

But if that is the reasoning, why even have media availability at all.  We might as well just wait until Oklahoma makes a press release.  I'm sure that is what coaches would prefer.

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I won't pretend to have the perfect answers, I just think it could use a change. I think the media availabilities should be fewer, and a bit more regulated. Right now you have a coach talking after the game on the field. After the game at the podium. Then Monday. During the week/Friday. Then on the phone with the opposing media/national etc... Anything of substance (mainly injuries, starter changes etc...) can be updated by the team in media releases etc..  With fewer availabilities, maybe journalists will ask better questions more consistently. Pay attention to questions that have already been asked. And also maybe the coaches will be more willing to give better answers because they're not tired of talking to the media every other day (it seems).

Talk to the winning coach and a player or two coming off the field. No need to talk to a losing coach/player until the next day/following Monday. 

As a Texans fan, I can only listen to Lovie Smith say "we've got to learn how to finish" so many times on Sunday. Monday. Wednesday etc... He's not lying, they need to learn how to finish, so he's probably going to say it a lot. Then I have to listen to the sports media criticize him "ughhh I wish he'd say something else." Same. Same. 

 

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  On 12/29/2022 at 8:49 PM, UncleBuck said:

 

I won't pretend to have the perfect answers, I just think it could use a change. I think the media availabilities should be fewer, and a bit more regulated. Right now you have a coach talking after the game on the field. After the game at the podium. Then Monday. During the week/Friday. Then on the phone with the opposing media/national etc... Anything of substance (mainly injuries, starter changes etc...) can be updated by the team in media releases etc..  With fewer availabilities, maybe journalists will ask better questions more consistently. Pay attention to questions that have already been asked. And also maybe the coaches will be more willing to give better answers because they're not tired of talking to the media every other day (it seems).

Talk to the winning coach and a player or two coming off the field. No need to talk to a losing coach/player until the next day/following Monday. 

As a Texans fan, I can only listen to Lovie Smith say "we've got to learn how to finish" so many times on Sunday. Monday. Wednesday etc... He's not lying, they need to learn how to finish, so he's probably going to say it a lot. Then I have to listen to the sports media criticize him "ughhh I wish he'd say something else." Same. Same. 

 

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Maybe I do not realize how much media availability coach Gundy does.  Does he have multiple availabilities during the next couple of weeks.  If so, then maybe the question could be asked at one of those sessions.  My understanding is that this is likely the last media availability until he likely does one after signing day in early February.  If that is the case, my guess is that he would come up with some rant about how that was about these kids big day following their dreams and the reporter should not be soiling their big day by asking questions at that time.

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  On 12/29/2022 at 2:35 PM, Brian Fantana said:

Oh let's not forget this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/13/okla-state-coach-mike-gundy-blames-liberalism-snowflake-millennial-college-athletes-transferring-schools/

Gee I fucking wonder what the political leanings of a dude that talks like that are. It's a god damn mystery.

E: And don't forget his retarded COVID tirade 

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Oh I guess we do know his political leanings after all.  Not just a fishing shirt

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  On 12/29/2022 at 9:09 PM, Texas Wahoo said:

Maybe I do not realize how much media availability coach Gundy does.  Does he have multiple availabilities during the next couple of weeks.  If so, then maybe the question could be asked at one of those sessions.  My understanding is that this is likely the last media availability until he likely does one after signing day in early February.  If that is the case, my guess is that he would come up with some rant about how that was about these kids big day following their dreams and the reporter should not be soiling their big day by asking questions at that time.

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Again, I'm not saying Gundy handled things correctly here. I'm not really speaking about Gundy much at all. I just think there are two things here. One: it's silly that there is an expectation that these questions be asked at all knowing we're not going to get anything of substance in response, as it relates to the team and the actual question. Two: It's just common sense that such a question being asked at that time and in that situation might receive a more hostile answer than after a day or two. It's not important to me whether he has another media availability in the next couple of weeks or not, my point with that shouldn't be asked then (in a perfect world). Have a big ole post-season press conference a week later and ask it then (if you really feel you have to). 

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  On 12/29/2022 at 5:33 PM, Pam Cummings said:

Answering those questions comes with the territory of being a football coach too. Kind of a high stakes job. People are going to ask stuff like that. Maybe be prepared for it. Again, not even really a tough question. At all.

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Yeppirs. During an interview a while back, I asked an SID about something our readers were asking about(btw, it was kinda stoopid.) He said, "Why do people have such an irrational interest in this?" 

I told him, "If people didn't have an irrational interest in the program, your coach wouldn't make $5 million a year."

By the way, the TL;DR on this whole overlong post is "They're a bunch of homogenized control freaks who see the press as advertisers they don't have to pay." 

  On 12/29/2022 at 8:49 PM, UncleBuck said:

 

I won't pretend to have the perfect answers, I just think it could use a change. I think the media availabilities should be fewer a bit more regulated. Right now you have a coach talking after the game on the field. After the game at the podium. Then Monday. During the week/Friday. Then on the phone with the opposing media/national etc... Anything of substance (mainly injuries, starter changes etc...) can be updated by the team in media releases etc..  With fewer availabilities, maybe journalists will ask better questions more consistently. Pay attention to questions that have already been asked. And also maybe the coaches will be more willing to give better answers because they're not tired of talking to the media every other day (it seems).

Talk to the winning coach and a player or two coming off the field. No need to talk to a losing coach/player until the next day/following Monday. 

As a Texans fan, I can only listen to Lovie Smith say "we've got to learn how to finish" so many times on Sunday. Monday. Wednesday etc... He's not lying, they need to learn how to finish, so he's probably going to say it a lot. Then I have to listen to the sports media criticize him "ughhh I wish he'd say something else." Same. Same. 

 

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Colleges are circling the wagons. Ten years ago, getting a one on one interview with a coach or player was easy. B12 Media Days, they'd have five teams each day, and a coach and five players from each team. In the afternoon, they'd have a three hour session, and you could go to thirty different tables and ask questions unsupervised by the college corporate mouthpiece. Sometimes there'd be five or six reporters around a table, but you could frequently get one on ones with guys like linebackers or safeties and have some actual conversations and get real answers and viewpoints.

Today, nah. Fewer players, and all the interviews are one at a time with the corporate handler. Strict fifteen minutes, twenty or so journalists. You might get one question in and lotsa fuckin luck getting a follow up if they dodged the first one. They're so wholly coached on what to say that you know you're going to get the same answer from every one of them. There are two paid dicksuckers to ask softball questions that were probably pre-arranged, cause the answers are way too scripted to be off the cuff. 

IF you see one on one interviews today, know that just about every question and answer is as scripted as an episode of Property Brothers

@UncleBuck, they control the shit out of access. During spring ball and fall camp, you get fifteen minutes to do "B-roll" at the start of practice. WOW! Fifteen whole minutes of watching wind sprints and jumping jacks. First whistle, when they actually start practicing, everybody out except for the "in house" reporters, who clear everything before they write anything. They will never give out any injury information except in response to a direct question. The two deep they give out is usually worthless. Sometimes they don't even change them. I had one where a guy that missed the last ten games of the season with a concussion was listed as the starter every week. 

The reason they have so many interviews with coaches is because they need the content. It's a 24 hour media cycle. There are 8,760 hours in a year. A college team playing fourteen games at roughly four hours a game is 56 hours. Actual snap to whistle in a game is about eleven to fifteen minutes of action per game. That's a little less than three hours of actual game footage per team per year. They have to have something to fill that content, and interviews with losing coaches are some of the most entertaining dramedy to come out of sports. 

 

 

 

 

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  On 12/29/2022 at 10:21 PM, Richard Kimball said:

The reason they have so many interviews with coaches is because they need the content. It's a 24 hour media cycle. There are 8,760 hours in a year. A college team playing fourteen games at roughly four hours a game is 56 hours. Actual snap to whistle in a game is about eleven to fifteen minutes of action per game. That's a little less than three hours of actual game footage per team per year. They have to have something to fill that content, and interviews with losing coaches are some of the most entertaining dramedy to come out of sports. 

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So what you're saying is that.... they need the filler? As I've already said a few times here? Yes, I absolutely understand that. They'll have to work a lot harder to pump out content without all of the cliches and coach speak etc..  -->World's smallest fiddle and such.<--

Touche to your point about the great moments we've gotten from some of these pressers. It also goes to my point that it's not of any substance as it relates to the actual question or the team itself. But I'll give you that one. 

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He’s usually more open in his press conferences than most coaches. He was obviously irritated. Probably from having to deal with the portal nonstop for the last month and his team playing like shit for the last 3 months. He should deal with it better though, it’s part of making $7 mil a year. I think it’s more likely that he knows who he’s gotta fire and hates that part of the job. Either way, that’s why you get paid a ton, have your one sentence coach speak response ready and move on.

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  On 12/28/2022 at 8:05 PM, Plorant said:

The guy has an amazing career record at a difficult school to win consistently at.  They were 12-2 last year.  This season was bad.  I wouldn't count them out this soon.  Although, it does appear that something has gone really wrong there.  It'll be interesting to watch.   

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The season was bad because of an unprecedented amount of injuries decimating the roster.

We had 16 of 22 starters miss games this year, including our most important player by far (Spencer Sanders)

The last game the team played when it was relatively healthy, we lost in double-OT on the road to a team that’s in the CFP… and we had a 2 TD lead on them in the 4th quarter.

Even if JUST Spencer Sanders stays healthy this year, even with all of the other injuries, the team is likely 9-3 at worst heading into its bowl game with a shot at another 10-win season.

If Gundy gets the right QB in the portal and we stay healthy next year we’ll win 9-10 games again and be in contention for the Big 12 title. Mark it down.

(If we don’t get an experienced QB in the portal, it’ll probably be another 7-5 type season.)

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