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Captain Ron

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With the EPL teams entering the mix of the League Cup this week, it's a good time to start this one. I mean why the heck not, this is among the reasons why English teams are going to be ground down as the season wears on.

Just a reminder:

Or the EFL dates for the fall ("week of" dates):

Round One – 10 August, 2022
Round Two – 24 August, 2022 (13 non European EPL teams join this round)
Round Three – 9 November, 2022 (7 European EPL teams join this round)
Round Four – 21 December, 2022
Quarter-Final – 11 January, 2023
Semi-Final First Leg – 25 January, 2023
Semi-Final Second Leg – 1 February, 2023 (two-leg ties? WTF is this shit in THIS year of all seasons!?!?!?!?!!!!!)
Final – 26 February, 2023

Or the FA Cup "week of" dates:

Round One "Proper" - 5 Nov 2022
Round Two - 26 Nov 2022
Round Three - 7 Jan 2023 (EPL teams join this round)
Round Four - 28 Jan 2023
Round Five - 1 March 2023
Quarter-Finals - 18 March 2023
Semi-Finals - 22 April 2023
Finals - 3 June 2023 

 

League Cup Games this week:
Aug 23
Bolton vs Aston Villa
Fleetwood Town vs Everton
Grimsby vs Nottingham Forest
Wolves vs Preston
Stockport County vs Leicester
Cambridge Utd vs Southampton
Colchester vs Brentford
Crawley Town vs Fulham
Norwich vs Bournemouth
Oxford United vs Crystal Palace

Aug 24
Leeds United vs Barnsley
Tranmere vs Newcastle United
Forest Green Rovers vs Brighton

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Damn, I didn't realize the schedule and it sucks for Matt Turner.  I thought the 3rd round of the EFL was in September, and with FA Cup starting in November too its really limiting the number of chances in goal for him before this stupid ass Qatar WC. 

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7 hours ago, shnsajax said:

Damn, I didn't realize the schedule and it sucks for Matt Turner.  I thought the 3rd round of the EFL was in September, and with FA Cup starting in November too its really limiting the number of chances in goal for him before this stupid ass Qatar WC. 

 
We all know what needs to be done and I know just the man to do it. 

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Plenty of prem on prem action.  The full 3rd round draw:

Leicester City v Newport County

Wolves s Leeds

Nottingham Forest v Tottenham

West Ham v Blackburn

Manchester United v Aston Villa

Bournemouth v Everton

Liverpool v Derby County

Burnley v Crawley

Bristol City v Lincoln City

Manchester City v Chelsea

Stevenage v Charlton

MK Dons v Morecambe

Newcastle v Crystal Palace

Southampton v Sheffield Wednesday

Arsenal v Brighton

Brentford v Gillingham

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ESPN+ covered a lot of games from this weekend's first round.

Round 2 sees no new teams just those that survived Round 1, which was the 32 teams that made it through qualification, plus the 48 teams in League 1 and League 2.

EPL and Championship teams will join in Round 3.

Today was the draw for Round 2, the results (with a bunch of teams you don't know and a select few you do):

Curzon Ashton or Cambridge United vs Grimsby Town
Wrexham AFC vs Farnborough
Accrington Stanley vs Barnet or Chelmsford City
Ebbsfleet United vs Fleetwood Town
Bracknell Town or Ipswich Town vs Buxton
Barnsley vs Crewe Alexandra
Forest Green Rovers vs Alvechurch
Portsmouth vs Milton Keynes Dons
Shrewsbury Town vs Peterborough United or Salford City
Solihull Moors or Hartlepool United vs Harrogate Town
King's Lynn Town vs Stevenage
Charlton Athletic vs Stockport County
Bristol Rovers vs Boreham Wood
Dagenham & Redbridge vs AFC Fylde or Gillingham
Woking or Oxford United vs Exeter City
Sheffield Wednesday vs Mansfield Town
Weymouth or AFC Wimbledon vs Chesterfield
Burton Albion vs Chippenham Town
Walsall vs Carlisle United AFC
Newport County AFC vs Torquay United or Derby County

These games are to be played at the end of November.

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Fourth-round draw

Wolves v Gillingham

Southampton v Lincoln City

Blackburn Rovers v Nottingham Forest

Newcastle United v Bournemouth

Manchester City v Liverpool

Manchester United v Burnley

MK Dons v Leicester City

Charlton Athletic v Brighton

 

Great draw for Southampton and as a bonus a big boy is gonna get knocked out (City/Liverpool)

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Because the EPL players don't have enough games, the EPL and Championship both join the 3rd round of the FA Cup. The draw was earlier this week. They play the week they get back from Qatar.

Notable games this round:

City v Chelsea
Brentford v West Ham
Liverpool v Wolves
Man U v Everton
There are 3 or 4 teams (depending on 1 replay) from outside the EFL still alive, one is Wrexham, who bummer only drew a Championship team
Coventry City v Wrexham
If that replay goes Dagenham & Redbridge's way, they will face Leicester City

 

 

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England is taken to their cups again today.

FA Cup over the weekend, League cup mid week next week.

32 games this round, the bulk falling on Saturday (1 Friday, 22 Saturday, 8 Sunday, 1 Monday) - it looks like ESPN+ will cover them all.

Really odd one with City-Chelsea playing Sunday after playing yesterday in the EPL.

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That Wolves-Liverpool barn burner ended in a 2-2 draw yesterday. Wolves thought they scored to win late, but it was disallowed for offsides. There was no TV feed that showed if Nunes was onside or not, so the call by the ref stood.

This was taken from the stands via potato phone (and then dude who posted this clip ran it through potato filter), it's close.

 

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Drama in Cardiff.  Leeds had gone down 2-0 in the 1st half, then got one back through sub Rodrigo.  Then in the 80th minute, a Cardiff defender punched a ball off the line, Luis Saurez style.  Red card but the penalty was saved.  Cardiff now have to see off 10+ stoppage time with 10 men.

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Of course, you always wonder whether PL teams in the relegation battle like Leeds really want to win these cup ties to begin with.

He says as Leeds just Wondos one over the bar from the 6 yard box.

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And now they have a new game on their schedule in the form of a replay.

IMHO, the cups are great if you win, but they put such a strain on teams anything but a win is almost a waste. And in a season like this it’s a huge strain.

The FA cup does carry some prestige though. So even a deep run for many is good. 

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7 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

And now they have a new game on their schedule in the form of a replay.

IMHO, the cups are great if you win, but they put such a strain on teams anything but a win is almost a waste. And in a season like this it’s a huge strain.

The FA cup does carry some prestige though. So even a deep run for many is good. 

This year would've been the perfect year to get rid of the replay in a constrained year, but oh well I'm not the one running around out there.

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16 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Well I fucking jinxed that

yup ... I was out taking down Christmas lights from trees and when I went up the ladder, it was 1-nil Villa ... and when I was done it was 2-1 the opposite direction.  Thanks.  ;)

The Stoke stadium is nice, though...

Spoiler

... and so is being on the pitch in the center circle (literally) seconds before kickoff.

 

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6 hours ago, mdmost said:

Sure. The FA Cup still matters to English teams. It's not the dumb Carabao Cup. 

Yeah, it still matters.  It's strange though that the PL teams treat it as an inconvenience and don't play full teams unless/until they get to the QF or SF and then they seem to take it serious.  I'd like to see the FA to go back to giving an autobid to the CL for winning it to really give it some stakes.  There would still be 3 spots left for the petrostates and American conglomerates to fight for.

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17 hours ago, WBT said:

Yeah, it still matters.  It's strange though that the PL teams treat it as an inconvenience and don't play full teams unless/until they get to the QF or SF and then they seem to take it serious.  I'd like to see the FA to go back to giving an autobid to the CL for winning it to really give it some stakes.  There would still be 3 spots left for the petrostates and American conglomerates to fight for.

I don't think the clubs see it as an inconvenience. They stakes just aren't as high as the league, so they work in other players at many of the stages. And when they are playing the lower division clubs, they rotate in a bunch of 2nd teamers.

There is no way they would give an autobid to the UCL for the FA Cup. The fact that 2nd division teams could potentially win it would put country ranking at jeopardy, even lower EPL teams would risk it.

 

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Holy Shit.

Southampton 2 - 0 Manchester City

EFL Cup quarterfinals.

https://cdn.saintsweb.co.uk/monthly_2023_01/twitter_20230111_202732.mp4.e95185057a174d30a91bbce92abef44a.mp4

 

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