Game Thread ULM Warhawks @ Longhorns 7PM on LHN - The Mullet Hath Arriveth

[MonkeyDoughnut 10806]

Loved seeing the defensive pursuit and loved seeming the players actually having fun out there. Attitude change very apparent with this team. They are definitely a closer bunch.

[utexas8 1709]

Did CTJ die

[Codaxx 6261]

27 minutes ago, pacman said:

It certainly seemed like the online had issues.

Bijan had 55 yards after contact in his 10 carries, meaning the online gave him on average 1.6 yards of space per carry.

And Bijan was the lucky RB this game. In all 24 total carries, 31 yards were before contact. Looks like UT RBs broke 18 tackles on the day.

I know you grabbed that from somewhere, but I am calling BS. Rojo’s TD was basically untouched (he was hit on the 1/2 yard line). Bijan’s first run was a nice 1 cut run with plenty of room. 

[Hank Kingsley 21789]

In general, Ewers looked very comfortable out there outside of the first series. Nice contrast to Card shitting his pants on every drop back. 

 

All I ask is we leave the Alabama game healthy. Whether we keep it close or lose by 50, we should be fine in conference play if we don’t have major injuries. 

[pacman 7509]

2 hours ago, Codaxx said:

I know you grabbed that from somewhere, but I am calling BS. Rojo’s TD was basically untouched (he was hit on the 1/2 yard line). Bijan’s first run was a nice 1 cut run with plenty of room. 

pff

They agree with you on his TD run. That run is the lion share of his yards before contact. His average is better than Bijan's, fewer total yards but better average on fewer carries. His other runs were basically a wash, hit at or behind the line of scrimmage.

Brooks and Blue were given no room.

 

 

Edited September 5, 2022 by pacman

[Napoleon 8837]

Pro Football Focus

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/texas-report-card-pff-grades-201059822.html

[Duane Moore 5757]

5 hours ago, Napoleon said:

Pro Football Focus

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/texas-report-card-pff-grades-201059822.html

Disappointing to see that grade for Ford. We need him to be consistently in the 70’s all year. 

[Duane Moore 5757]

What do we make of Coburn playing well? ULM fool’s gold?

[Hookem2147 22038]

6 hours ago, Napoleon said:

Pro Football Focus

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/texas-report-card-pff-grades-201059822.html

PFF also graded out Card 16 points higher than Ewers so yeah….not sure about their grading system.

Edited September 5, 2022 by Hookem2147

[kevwun 16442]

It makes sense if you take in to account that their rating system is primarily based on a magic 8 ball.

[lilMAC25 4003]

On 9/3/2022 at 10:42 PM, Hank_Hill said:

Not that it won’t help his throwing overall, but I don’t think not jumping is going to help him throw with less power.

Whut

[lilMAC25 4003]

On 9/4/2022 at 1:57 AM, RabidM said:

This game felt similar to a late era Mack Brown game against a shitty team.  In the end, the score looked pretty good, the stats seemed OK, but watching the game, there were things that just made you feel really uneasy about the upcoming season. 

We went 5-7 last year. If you weren’t uneasy about this year…

[lilMAC25 4003]

On 9/4/2022 at 10:15 AM, Porterhouse said:

But we didn’t. There was a reason we gave up leads and let Kansas score 60. It wasn’t coaching. 

Coaching definitely contributed. Arguing otherwise is phenomenally idiotic.

[NWAustinDude 2266]

 

[lilMAC25 4003]

Is the game up online anywhere yet?

[Guest]

33 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

Coaching definitely contributed. Arguing otherwise is phenomenally idiotic.

It contributed but arguing it was a coaching issue over a personnel issue is phenomenally idiotic. 

[lilMAC25 4003]

1 minute ago, Porterhouse said:

It contributed but arguing it was a coaching issue over a personnel issue is phenomenally idiotic. 

It was a BOTH situation, IMHO

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

It was a BOTH situation, IMHO

I’ll call your opinion, and raise you a Brockermeyer, Bush, and entire OL and secondary and DL units - before even getting to our shitshow QB play and drama with Casey. In a both situation, it was 90% on the personnel and 10% on PK. 

[lilMAC25 4003]

16 minutes ago, Porterhouse said:

I’ll call your opinion, and raise you a Brockermeyer, Bush, and entire OL and secondary and DL units - before even getting to our shitshow QB play and drama with Casey. In a both situation, it was 90% on the personnel and 10% on PK. 

We can revisit this at the end of the year. I’m hoping you’re correct and that we have at least begun to correct the issue.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

We can revisit this at the end of the year. I’m hoping you’re correct and that we have at least begun to correct the issue.

If we’re worse than 7-5 this year, it becomes a coaching issue. Last year that wasn’t the main culprit. Not even close. We had no talent outside of a running back and a receiver. Last year has nothing to do with this year so no need to revisit. 

Edited September 5, 2022 by Porterhouse

[bullet 1630]

55 minutes ago, Porterhouse said:

I’ll call your opinion, and raise you a Brockermeyer, Bush, and entire OL and secondary and DL units - before even getting to our shitshow QB play and drama with Casey. In a both situation, it was 90% on the personnel and 10% on PK. 

It was both.  How did Hermann win most of his close games with the same personnel?  How did he consistently win close games in his career at Texas?

Sark wasn't good at it last year.  Sark did a poor job.  He can recruit.  It remains to be seen if he can coach.

[bullet 1630]

37 minutes ago, Porterhouse said:

If we’re worse than 7-5 this year, it becomes a coaching issue. Last year that wasn’t the main culprit. Not even close. We had no talent outside of a running back and a receiver. Last year has nothing to do with this year so no need to revisit. 

Well for one thing we still have the same coach.

[theBigHen 381]

8 minutes ago, bullet said:

It was both.  How did Hermann win most of his close games with the same personnel?  How did he consistently win close games in his career at Texas?

Sark wasn't good at it last year.  Sark did a poor job.  He can recruit.  It remains to be seen if he can coach.

You’re completely ignoring that the guys that Tom relied on to win those games all got drafted or graduated. There was nobody left to fill the talent gaps left behind by Cosmi, Ehlinger, and Ossai.

[Guest]

29 minutes ago, bullet said:

It was both.  How did Hermann win most of his close games with the same personnel?  How did he consistently win close games in his career at Texas?

Sark wasn't good at it last year.  Sark did a poor job.  He can recruit.  It remains to be seen if he can coach.

I don’t know if he can coach. I know he can recruit on levels Mack couldn’t his last 7 years here, and way out recruits Charlie and Herman. 

Herman won close games because he had far superior talent relative to what Sark had last year. It wasn’t even close. 

[Guest]

28 minutes ago, bullet said:

Well for one thing we still have the same coach.

But we’ve already established last year was on talent. You think Herman would’ve gone better than 5-7?  Maybe. Charlie would’ve had a worse record. Sark may prove beyond any doubt that he cannot coach. That has zero to do with last year. 

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, theBigHen said:

You’re completely ignoring that the guys that Tom relied on to win those games all got drafted or graduated. There was nobody left to fill the talent gaps left behind by Cosmi, Ehlinger, and Ossai.

LJH, CJ, DevDuv. Only appreciable upgrade relative to last year’s roster is Bijan. But he had a significantly worse line to run behind than anything his RB predecessors did, and, every other position group was a downgrade. Most significant downgrades. 

[NorLa Horns 1458]

35 minutes ago, bullet said:

It was both.  How did Hermann win most of his close games with the same personnel?  How did he consistently win close games in his career at Texas?

Sark wasn't good at it last year.  Sark did a poor job.  He can recruit.  It remains to be seen if he can coach.

Herman also lost justbas many close games. Thats how he played the game. Close. He would get a lead , and take the foot off the gas. Another thing that led to his firing. Herman didnt know what style points were, and it cost him, the team, and my liver. 

[Valmy77 13626]

2 minutes ago, NorLa Horns said:

Herman also lost justbas many close games. Thats how he played the game. Close. He would get a lead , and take the foot off the gas. Another thing that led to his firing. Herman didnt know what style points were, and it cost him, the team, and my liver. 

Every game was a one score game, which gave him the chance to score some upsets but also let bad teams hang around be upset.

How he managed that is still a mystery. Only Herman could beat Tulsa and Georgia by identical scores in the same season.

[6th Street 6692]

Herman never lost to Kansas. So there's that

[Ignatius 4142]

2 hours ago, Porterhouse said:

It contributed but arguing it was a coaching issue over a personnel issue is phenomenally idiotic. 

You two keep using that word; I don’t think it means what you think it means…

[Js1 87190]

42 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Herman never lost to Kansas. So there's that

Sure as fuck tried 

[Guest]

46 minutes ago, Ignatius said:

You two keep using that word; I don’t think it means what you think it means…

Which word

[Scheiss Meister 8472]

I didn't get to watch Saturday but watched a replay last night.  My main question is when, and why, did Sark get Tony Romo to coach the holder for field goals?

[honolulu horn 6235]

9 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

I didn't get to watch Saturday but watched a replay last night.  My main question is when, and why, did Sark get Tony Romo to coach the holder for field goals?

is there a reply posted online somewhere? 

[Deej 77846]

2 hours ago, theBigHen said:

You’re completely ignoring that the guys that Tom relied on to win those games all got drafted or graduated. There was nobody left to fill the talent gaps left behind by Cosmi, Ehlinger, and Ossai.

This. We all knew Herman had left the cupboard bare and recruits were decommitting left and right. If he'd been back, do we win any more games? Instead, new coach gets left with absolute shit, aside from a few guy, and many of the ones left not only lacked talent, but were also cancers. 

[Hank Chinaski 6362]

3 hours ago, bullet said:

How did Hermann win most of his close games with the same personnel?  How did he consistently win close games in his career at Texas?

He didn’t. From 2017-2020, Texas was 14-13 in games decided by fewer than 10 points. Basically a coin flip. Mack Brown consistently won close games at Texas; Herman didn’t. 

 

[TXs 229]

I checked out most of last season, caught half the game in real time then the highlights after. This looks like a good team compared to the shit show that we were spoon fed the past 7 years. I'm hopefully optimistic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...now show me a loss.

[LTtxfan 50007]

 

[Pam Cummings 9880]

17 hours ago, 6th Street said:

Herman never lost to Kansas. So there's that

Any game against Kansas that isn't a blowout where we get to play a bunch of backups is a fucking loss in my book.

[bullet 1630]

20 hours ago, Porterhouse said:

But we’ve already established last year was on talent. You think Herman would’ve gone better than 5-7?  Maybe. Charlie would’ve had a worse record. Sark may prove beyond any doubt that he cannot coach. That has zero to do with last year. 

Hermann wouldn't have lost to Kansas for one.  Sarkasian hadn't been a head coach in 6 years.  His best season at Washington was 8-4 and career was 34-29.  USC he was 9-4 and 3-2.  He hasn't proven he can win at the top level.  We'll see if he learned at Alabama.  ULM is not much of a test.  But then a loss to Alabama isn't much of a test either.

As for whether Sark is better than 2006+ Mack in recruiting, time will tell.  I hope so. He looks really good on paper.  But then Mack looked really good on paper too.

[bullet 1630]

17 hours ago, Hank Chinaski said:

He didn’t. From 2017-2020, Texas was 14-13 in games decided by fewer than 10 points. Basically a coin flip. Mack Brown consistently won close games at Texas; Herman didn’t. 

 

Guess I'm blocking out 2017 when we were 0-4 in one score games.  He was 13-8 after that.

[bullet 1630]

16 hours ago, TXs said:

I checked out most of last season, caught half the game in real time then the highlights after. This looks like a good team compared to the shit show that we were spoon fed the past 7 years. I'm hopefully optimistic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...now show me a loss.

Definitely looks better (other than the kicking game which isn't even good HS level).  But again, its only ULM.  If we look bad next week, that still won't be much of an indicator.  I still think Oregon is pretty solid and they lost 49-3 to Georgia.  The games after Alabama will tell how much better we are.

[LTtxfan 50007]

Checking in on the freshmen: ULM game impact was real

Gerry Hamilton• 09/05/22

Quinn Ewers (Will Gallagher/Inside Texas)

The Texas Longhorns played more than 25 combined redshirt freshmen and true freshmen in the 52-10 win over UL-Monroe Saturday. The list includes six players that started at their position, headlined by quarterback Quinn Ewers and left tackle Kelvin Banks.

The 2022 top 5 ranked recruiting class of 28 high school prospects saw four players start the season opener, and 18 more see action.

Inside Texas takes a look at the impact the freshmen class had on the Texas season opening win.

Quarterback

Quinn Ewers (RS-FR), Southlake (Texas) Carroll – *Started first career game*

vs. ULM: 16 of 24 for 225 yards with 3 TD’s and 1 INT

Maalik Murphy, Inglewood (Calif.) Junipero Serra – Did not see action

Running back

Jonathon Brooks (RS-FR), Hallettsville (Texas) High – Appeared in the second half

vs. ULM: 6 carries for 32 yards and a TD

Jaydon Blue, Klein (Texas) Cain – Made first appearance in the fourth quarter

vs. ULM: 3 carries for 3 yards

Wide receiver

Casey Cain (RS-FR), New Orleans (La.) Warren Easton – Made first appearance in first quarter

vs. ULM: 1 reception for 43 yards

Savion Red, Grand Prairie (Texas) High – Made first appearance in the fourth quarter

vs. ULM: 1 reception for 5 yards

Brenen Thompson, Spearman (Texas) High –  Made first appearance in the second half

Jaden Alexis (RS-FR), Pompano Beach (Fla.) Monarch – Still rehabbing from knee injury

Offensive line

Kelvin Banks, LT, Humble (Texas) Summer Creek – *Made first career start Saturday*

Cole Hutson, RG, Frisco (Texas) High – *Made first career start Saturday*

DJ Campbell, RG, Arlington (Texas) Bowie – Made first appearance in the second half

Cameron Williams, RT, Duncanville (Texas) High – Made first appearance in the second half

Neto Umeozulu, RG, Allen (Texas) High – Made first appearance in the fourth quarter

Connor Robertson, C, Austin (Texas) Westlake – Made first appearance in the fourth quarter

Malik Agbo, LG, Federal Way (Wash.) Todd Beamer – Made first appearance in fourth quarter

Logan Parr, (RS-FR) San Antonio (Texas) O’Connor – Appeared in the third quarter

Max Merril, OG, Houston (Texas) Strake Jesuit – depth

Defensive line

Aaron Bryant, Southaven (Miss.) High – Made first appearance in the fourth quarter

Kristopher Ross, Houston (Texas) North Shore – Made first appearance in the fourth quarter

vs. ULM: 2 tackles

Jaray Bledsoe, Marlin (Texas) High – Made first appearance in the fourth quarter

vs. ULM: 1 tackle

Zac Swanson, Phoenix (Az.) Brophy Prep – Made first appearance in the fourth quarter

vs. ULM: 1 tackle

EDGE

Ethan Burke, Austin (Texas) Westlake – Made first appearance in the second quarter

vs. ULM: 3 tackles, 0.5 tackles for loss

Justice Finkley, Trussville (Ala.) Hewitt-Trussville – Made first appearance in first quarter

vs. ULM: 1 tackle

J’Mond Tapp, Donaldsonville (La.) Ascension Catholic – Made first appearance in second quarter

vs. ULM: 1 tackle

D.J. Harris Jr. (RS-FR), New Caney (Texas) High – Appeared in second half

vs. ULM: 1 tackle

Linebacker

Derrick Brown, Texarkana (Texas) High – Did not see action

Trevell Johnson, Arlington (Texas) Martin – Did not see action

Defensive back

Terrance Brooks, CB, Little Elm (Texas) High – Made first appearance in second half

vs. ULM: 1 tackle

Austin Jordan, CB, Denton (Texas) Ryan – Made first appearance in second half

X’avion Brice, CB, Arlington (Texas) Seguin – Did not see action

Ishmael Ibraheem (RS-FR), CB, Dallas (Texas) Kimball – Appeared in second half

vs. ULM: 1 pass break up

Jaylon Guilbeau, NB, Port Arthur (Texas) Memorial – *Made first career start Saturday*

vs. ULM: 1 tackle

B.J. Allen, S, Aledo (Texas) High – Did not see action

Larry Turner-Gooden, S, Los Angeles (Calif.) Bishop Alemany – Made first appearance in fourth quarter

Specialist

Will Stone, K, Austin (Texas) Regents – *Made first career star Saturday*

vs. ULM: 9 kickoffs with 3 touchbacks

Isaac Pearson (RS-FR), P, Newcastle (Australia) – *Made first career star Saturday*

vs. ULM: 1 punt for 15 yard average

Lance St. Louis, DS, Gilbert (Ariz.) Williams Field – Did not see action

 

Edited September 6, 2022 by LTtxfan

[ousux 5639]

All the Herman players are JAGs. 
Look at the DL. It's already readily apparent that the upside of the DL is much higher with Burke, Sorrell, Murphy, and Finkely compared to Ojomo, Sweat, and Coburn. 

Ojomo still mostly a non factor, but at least Sweat and Coburn appear to be more disruptive this season. Remains to be seen if that holds up with a real opponent though.

[stork642 4511]

On 9/5/2022 at 3:37 PM, 6th Street said:

Herman never lost to Kansas. So there's that

Herman lost Ewers and was never getting Arch.  Not sure if you’re familiar with football but that is the most important position on the team that is locked up with 5 stars for the next 5+ years.  Oh and Herman almost lost his wife off of that Learjet also.  

[Rickylovesweed 15532]

I don't know why people always make this argument about "Herman would never lose to Kansas." 

He almost lost to Kansas in 2018, at home, with Ehlinger. Trade Ehlinger for Thompson or Card and Herman could definitely lose to Kansas. 

Edited September 7, 2022 by Rickylovesweed

[Rickylovesweed 15532]

7 hours ago, ousux said:

On 9/4/2022 at 5:20 PM, Rickylovesweed said:

All the Herman players are JAGs. 
Look at the DL. It's already readily apparent that the upside of the DL is much higher with Burke, Sorrell, Murphy, and Finkely compared to Ojomo, Sweat, and Coburn. 

Ojomo still mostly a non factor, but at least Sweat and Coburn appear to be more disruptive this season. Remains to be seen if that holds up with a real opponent though.

Coburn made a few decent plays against ULM. Ojomo and Sweat still seem like complete non factors. Coburn is a situational player, at best, because he gets tired so easily. 

I was thinking about this the other day. Which players did Herman leave that posters would consider good players? Bijan for sure but that might be it. Maybe Overshown dependent on what happens this season. 

On offense the best players outside of Bijan are already non-Herman players. Banks, Sanders, and Worthy. The same will be true of the defensive line at the end of the year. 

 

 

 

[LTtxfan 50007]

 

[Codaxx 6261]

On 9/5/2022 at 2:41 PM, bullet said:

It was both.  How did Hermann win most of his close games with the same personnel?  How did he consistently win close games in his career at Texas?

Sark wasn't good at it last year.  Sark did a poor job.  He can recruit.  It remains to be seen if he can coach.

Sark wasn’t good last year, but I can’t imagine Herman’s record without Sam. Pretending that guys like Sam, TQ, and Ossai were meaningless losses is silly