QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[Johnny Sack 8397]

16 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Its early, but Ewers has thrown an Int in 2 of 3 games. He has a little Favre in him. He makes some throws that he just believes he can fit the ball in, that he should not. That needs to be reigned in a bit.

Simms had a great arm, but lacked the anticipation that Ewers has shown. Most strong arm QBs wait for guys to get open and have the arm strength to get it there, despite being late on the throw. That usually catches up to them at some level of play. It's extremely rare for a young college QB with Ewers' arm talent to already show anticipation. 

Simms' arm was wildly, wildly overrated.  At the combine when they put him on the radar, he was in the bottom third in velocity. Simms threw a pretty ball.  But as a passer he was overrated.  We have three guys on the team right now with stronger arms than Simms.

And I liked Simms a lot.  His work ethic and toughness were wildly, wildly underrated.

Edited October 12, 2022 by Johnny Sack

[Eggo 3987]

16 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Its early, but Ewers has thrown an Int in 2 of 3 games. He has a little Favre in him. He makes some throws that he just believes he can fit the ball in, that he should not. That needs to be reigned in a bit.

Simms had a great arm, but lacked the anticipation that Ewers has shown. Most strong arm QBs wait for guys to get open and have the arm strength to get it there, despite being late on the throw. That usually catches up to them at some level of play. It's extremely rare for a young college QB with Ewers' arm talent to already show anticipation. 

Reined*

And no he shouldn't. 

[Longhornlove 4860]

9 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

This is where I am. He showed off amazing talent and poise for such an atmosphere, but after watching the game 3 times there are several throws that range from slightly off target to poor, and that doesn’t include any times when he didn’t see open receivers that weren’t visible on TV. He can definitely get better, which is pretty exciting, but we should be prepared for some hiccups along the way. That’s why I’m so interested in seeing how he plays against ISU, which likely has the best defense we’ll see all year. If he can put up 35+ on them, this is going to be a special season. 

I'm pretty damn sure by the end of the year ISUs' defense won't be as highly touted as Alabama but I get what you are saying. Ewers was in the process of shredding that Alabama D before he got hurt.

[tbone_ 14141]

Simms' arm was wildly, wildly overrated.  At the combine when they put him on the radar, he was in the bottom third in velocity. Simms threw a pretty ball.  But as a passer he was overrated.  We have three guys on the team right now with stronger arms than Simms.
And I liked Simms a lot.  His work ethic and toughness were wildly, wildly underrated.

He could hit a guy in stride though. Which is more that can be said for a bunch of our dudes before him.

[OU Sucks 8899]

4 hours ago, Eggo said:

Hudson Card ain't making this throw.

Of course Card could make that throw.

 

It would just be returned for 6 points. Seriously though, yeah, he'd look at that and not even attempt it...then probably take a sack for hesitating too long and going to another read.

[Codaxx 5821]

10 minutes ago, Eggo said:

Reined*

And no he shouldn't. 

Quinn has 2 picks in 8 quarters of play and probably thrown 2-3 others that were interception worthy. Ball security is probably the worst part of his game right now. He is still learning, so that should not be a surprise.

[Deej 76882]

19 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

He could hit a guy in stride though.

But could he hit his man crossing a lake in a bass boat?

Edited October 12, 2022 by Deej

[Bigbend1812 12927]

He’s the most talented passer to step foot on the 40.  Let’s move on.  What about that fucking mullet???

[TheMailBox357 213]

4 hours ago, Longhornlove said:

Bobby Burton posed the question the other day in a video, "what QB would you pick to run your offense in college right now besides Quinn" and the only answer was CJ Stroud. Quinn is pretty special.

 

4 hours ago, Codaxx said:

It was what QB in college would you pick as a passer over Quinn

 

3 hours ago, KeysPhoneWallet said:

Caleb Williams, cj stroud, Bryce young, that dude from utsa

Those are the runners up to quinn

Based strictly on the UT-UTSA game, I'd take Frank Harris over Hudson Card. But HELL NO I wouldn't take Harris over Quinn.

C.J. Stroud, Bryce Young, & Caleb Williams are the only current CFB QBs who are debatable to trade Quinn for.

 

Edited October 12, 2022 by TheMailBox357

[TheMailBox357 213]

 

[Hornsome 218]

I don’t think I have ever seen a football game where the quarterback didn’t throw a pass that was “interception worthy”  or where the QB didn’t see an open receiver.  My gosh some of you expect nothing but perfection.

Of course Quinn will have a bad game.  Every QB in the pros including the G.O.AT. has had many.   But am I worried about all the  “should have”, “would have”, or “could have” negative outcomes after looking at replays? Hell no.  I’m more excited about our next game and watching him play.

[Fondren & Main 6731]

12 minutes ago, TheMailBox357 said:

 

Did CincyBuck go full Figurelli?

[jimmyjazz 46037]

More often than not, Ewers' incompletitions seem to be placed where the defender(s) can't get the ball, but his receiver can't, either.  I'll take that.

I think the 2 INTs in 8 quarters thing is a bit of a red herring.  The first INT was him being a young buck and tossing a stupid pass into coverage on his first college series and his second attempt, ever.  I think we can maybe squint and overlook that one, since he hasn't really done it again, against far better competition.  The second one had nothing to do with trying to a fit a ball into a tight space, he was literally trying to get it out of bounds and it slipped out of his hand and quacked its way into a defender's arms.  Again, squint, and then think about the INTs Simms threw (and I was a major (ahem) Simms over Applewhite guy).

Edited October 12, 2022 by jimmyjazz

[conVINCEd 21469]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

More often than not, Ewers' incompletitions seem to be placed where the defender(s) can't get the ball, but his receiver can't, either.  I'll take that.

I think the 2 INTs in 8 quarters thing is a bit of a red herring.  The first INT was him being a young buck and tossing a stupid pass into coverage on his first college series and his second attempt, ever.  I think we can maybe squint and overlook that one, since he hasn't really done it again, against far better competition.

Is ou really better competition?

[jimmyjazz 46037]

1 minute ago, conVINCEd said:

Is ou really better competition?

Point taken, but he wasn't throwing into coverage, either.  It was a completely unforced error that may never happen again.

[conVINCEd 21469]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Point taken, but he wasn't throwing into coverage, either.  It was a completely unforced error that may never happen again.

No problem and I agree.  He was just nervous for his first game.  I was just using the opportunity to ask if ou might be worse than ULM. 

[jimmyjazz 46037]

1 minute ago, conVINCEd said:

I was just using the opportunity to ask if ou might be worse than ULM. 

I think we all know that answer.  

(To be fair, the computer rankings I've seen have OU way above ULM at this point.  Not sure I agree with that.)

[Codaxx 5821]

1 hour ago, TheMailBox357 said:

 

 

Based strictly on the UT-UTSA game, I'd take Frank Harris over Hudson Card. But HELL NO I wouldn't take Harris over Quinn.

C.J. Stroud, Bryce Young, & Caleb Williams are the only current CFB QBs who are debatable to trade Quinn for.

 

They quantified it as a passer. That is why Stroud was the only QB over him, also Bryce is hurt. I think Babers said “you can argue Caleb is a better football player, but he isn’t a better passer”

[Sandbagging Steve 982]

1 hour ago, Bigbend1812 said:

He’s the most talented passer to step foot on the 40.  Let’s move on.  What about that fucking mullet???

He ranks right below this legend in the hair department

I had to do a double take when this pic pulled up on Google Images. That's former Nevada defensive player Brock Hekking. 

[Eggo 3987]

2 hours ago, Hornsome said:

I don’t think I have ever seen a football game where the quarterback didn’t throw a pass that was “interception worthy”  or where the QB didn’t see an open receiver.  My gosh some of you expect nothing but perfection.

Of course Quinn will have a bad game.  Every QB in the pros including the G.O.AT. has had many.   But am I worried about all the  “should have”, “would have”, or “could have” negative outcomes after looking at replays? Hell no.  I’m more excited about our next game and watching him play.

Avatar checks out. 

[Da Fino 2783]

He ranks right below this legend in the hair department

I had to do a double take when this pic pulled up on Google Images. That's former Nevada defensive player Brock Hekking. 

Guess I missed that John Clayton passed away.

[RabidM 2668]

This is what Ewers is looking at when he starts his windup on the Sanders TD up the seam.  He has already set his feet and the throwing motion has begun.  The decision to throw this pass was made a little earlier when he set his feet a fraction of a second before this.  Many QB's will wait until Sanders is at least even with the defender before uncorking, but that would allow the safety to help over the top.  Sanders appears to be on the 22 yard line at this point in time. 

  

 

[Dahobbs 17635]

Just now, RabidM said:

This is what Ewers is looking at when he starts his windup on the Sanders TD up the seam.  He has already set his feet and the throwing motion has begun.  The decision to throw this pass was made a little earlier when he set his feet a fraction of a second before this.  Many QB's will wait until Sanders is at least even with the defender before uncorking, but that would allow the safety to help over the top.  Sanders appears to be on the 22 yard line at this point in time. 

  

 

This one throw invalidates everything the nerd guy said. Also, worthy should have had that TD in the end zone. That was a beautiful throw even if another receiver was open. 

[immamac 42898]

15 minutes ago, RabidM said:

This is what Ewers is looking at when he starts his windup on the Sanders TD up the seam.  He has already set his feet and the throwing motion has begun.  The decision to throw this pass was made a little earlier when he set his feet a fraction of a second before this.  Many QB's will wait until Sanders is at least even with the defender before uncorking, but that would allow the safety to help over the top.  Sanders appears to be on the 22 yard line at this point in time. 

  

 

What an incredible screenshot. 

[jw4381 3093]

Is that a Todd Orlando delayed blitz coming in from the right? Perfect.

[markstanco 12586]

Guess I missed that John Clayton passed away.

Holy crap me too.

[jettrink 40]

The coolest thing about Quinn is as soon as he sees its a touchdown pass, he hauls ass off the field.

[Ravishing Rick 1134]

The prior pic to the "Take me now, Quinn" photo from Saturday.  Incredibly short fingers on the gal.  Nevertheless, would bang.

 

[WinningIsHard 4060]

Rein in a freshman gunslinger who is probably going to be the best passing QB Texas has ever had, I didn’t have that on my bingo card fellas. Not gonna lie. Lol 

[DaggerHorns 3085]

Everyone in this thread is a QB whisperer.

[Butch Had Not 2991]

Love this angle 

 

 

[Irieguy 1059]

4 hours ago, jettrink said:

The coolest thing about Quinn is as soon as he sees its a touchdown pass, he hauls ass off the field.

<$995ers> Card has the advantage over Ewers in the area of celebrating with his teammates. Something to monitor going forward.

[52-80 19221]

The throw to JT was a beauty.  He fired it off before JT made his cut.

That said, over all of his snaps, I didn't see that his actual arm talent (velocity, placement, touch, distance) was an obvious standout.  Maybe that's why there wasn't much reported separation between he and Card in the camp setting.

What was obvious was how calm he was in the pocket.  And that helps with slowing down the game, processing the reads, and ultimately driving the team better, particularly in high pressure situation.  So I think there's more upside to be seen if/when he's in more of those scenarios.

[gmr548 16590]

Ehlinger isn’t in the same conversation as a thrower and quite frankly neither is Colt

Colt is because of accuracy.

[Irieguy 1059]

16 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

The throw to JT was a beauty.  He fired it off before JT made his cut.

That said, over all of his snaps, I didn't see that his actual arm talent (velocity, placement, touch, distance) was an obvious standout.  Maybe that's why there wasn't much reported separation between he and Card in the camp setting.

What was obvious was how calm he was in the pocket.  And that helps with slowing down the game, processing the reads, and ultimately driving the team better, particularly in high pressure situation.  So I think there's more upside to be seen if/when he's in more of those scenarios.

I’m sorry that you weren’t able to see most of the game. 

[Codaxx 5821]

15 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

The throw to JT was a beauty.  He fired it off before JT made his cut.

That said, over all of his snaps, I didn't see that his actual arm talent (velocity, placement, touch, distance) was an obvious standout.  Maybe that's why there wasn't much reported separation between he and Card in the camp setting.

What was obvious was how calm he was in the pocket.  And that helps with slowing down the game, processing the reads, and ultimately driving the team better, particularly in high pressure situation.  So I think there's more upside to be seen if/when he's in more of those scenarios.

Just watch the Sander's throw. He shows excellent anticipation. He throws the ball when Sander's is equal to the LB. He drops it in a perfect spot with 3 Sooners around him. That is a NFL throw. The Bijan throw was probably his best throw of the game. Dropped that over a LB in about a 6 inch window. 

[DaggerHorns 3085]

26 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

That said, over all of his snaps, I didn't see that his actual arm talent (velocity, placement, touch, distance) was an obvious standout.  Maybe that's why there wasn't much reported separation between he and Card in the camp setting.

I’d agree with you but then we’d both be wrong.

Are you lost? Was this the first game of American football you’ve witnessed?

[Dahobbs 17635]

30 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

The throw to JT was a beauty.  He fired it off before JT made his cut.

That said, over all of his snaps, I didn't see that his actual arm talent (velocity, placement, touch, distance) was an obvious standout.  

You should probably just stop watching football. His placement and touch were fucking amazing. His arm strength is less apparent because of how good he is at only throwing exactly as hard as necessary to get the ball to the receiver in a catchable spot. 

[52-80 19221]

9 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Just watch the Sander's throw. He shows excellent anticipation. He throws the ball when Sander's is equal to the LB. He drops it in a perfect spot with 3 Sooners around him. That is a NFL throw. The Bijan throw was probably his best throw of the game. Dropped that over a LB in about a 6 inch window. 

That particular throw was money.  Hudson can make some great throws too. 

I'm talking about the totality of his 67 attempts - or did we just memoryhole easy misses like the slamdunk to whittington? - doesn't show as much separation from Hudson. 

What did, obviously and consistently, was his poise in the pocket.  That aspect of his game vs Hudson is incomparable.

[Codaxx 5821]

11 hours ago, WinningIsHard said:

Rein in a freshman gunslinger who is probably going to be the best passing QB Texas has ever had, I didn’t have that on my bingo card fellas. Not gonna lie. Lol 

That is very odd statement. Most freshmen Qbs make mistakes. The job of coach is to rein those in. It is possible to acknowledge the obvious talent and also acknowledge that Quinn is making some freshmen mistakes. I guess the difference is I think Quinn is a very talented QB that is still learning the game (only played 8 quarters, so that should be obvious), but you think he is a finished product. 

[LebongJames 1813]

7 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

That particular throw was money.  Hudson can make some great throws too. 

I'm talking about the totality of his 67 attempts - or did we just memoryhole easy misses like the slamdunk to whittington? - doesn't show as much separation from Hudson. 

What did, obviously and consistently, was his poise in the pocket.  That aspect of his game vs Hudson is incomparable.

He showed incredible touch and great velocity on dozen of throws. Just a terrible take.

NSIAP

Edited October 13, 2022 by LebongJames

[52-80 19221]

2 minutes ago, LebongJames said:

He showed incredible touch and great velocity on dozen of throws. Just a terrible take.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-president-biden-re-evaluating-relationship-with-saudi-after-opec-decision-2022-10-11/
 

NSIAP

Yes, Quinn is perfect and infallible, everything he does is perfect, especially his stance and jawboning on foreign commodity market

[Codaxx 5821]

12 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

That particular throw was money.  Hudson can make some great throws too. 

I'm talking about the totality of his 67 attempts - or did we just memoryhole easy misses like the slamdunk to whittington? - doesn't show as much separation from Hudson. 

What did, obviously and consistently, was his poise in the pocket.  That aspect of his game vs Hudson is incomparable.

Card never showed that kind of anticipation on a throw in a live game. There is a reason that JT has 3 catches down the seam in 8 quarters with Ewers and had none with Card as a QB. He missed an open Whit. He is going to miss some throws, even Brady and Brees missed throws. He throws a much better deep ball, than Card. Going into the West Virginia game Card was rated the worst deep ball passer in the Big 12. The deep out to Worthy in the Bama game was an NFL throw, that few college Qbs can make. It is a throw that most college defense will not bother to cover, because so few teams will even attempt it at this level.

 

 

Edited October 13, 2022 by Codaxx

[immamac 42898]

2 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

Yes, Quinn is perfect and infallible, everything he does is perfect, especially his stance and jawboning on foreign commodity market

This is the magic of this site. Hahahahaha what a quick catch by both posters. 

[Hiphopopotamos 20876]

54 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

The throw to JT was a beauty.  He fired it off before JT made his cut.

That said, over all of his snaps, I didn't see that his actual arm talent (velocity, placement, touch, distance) was an obvious standout.  Maybe that's why there wasn't much reported separation between he and Card in the camp setting.

What was obvious was how calm he was in the pocket.  And that helps with slowing down the game, processing the reads, and ultimately driving the team better, particularly in high pressure situation.  So I think there's more upside to be seen if/when he's in more of those scenarios.

Not going to argue about any particular throw or his performance in this game - just thought this was an interesting 'stat'.

Per PFF, Quinn Ewers has 7 'Big Time Throws' in 7 quarters of action (73 drop backs).

PFF defines 'Big Time Throws' as "passes that have excellent location and timing, generally thrown downfield into tighter windows".

For comparison - Hudson Card has 0 BTT's in 123 drop backs this season.

 

Other well-known/highly-regarded QB's:

CJ Stroud - 10 BTT's in 163 drop backs

Bryce Young - 9 BTT's in 152 drop backs

Hendon Hooker - 8 BTT's in 158 drop backs

 

Quinn leads the country in BTT% (percentage of throws that are Big Time Throws)

Edited October 13, 2022 by Hiphopopotamos

[Codaxx 5821]

14 minutes ago, immamac said:

This is the magic of this site. Hahahahaha what a quick catch by both posters. 

I was thinking that. Somehow I arguing about how talented a passer Quinn is with @52-80 and @WinningIsHard is giving me shit for saying Quinn still has some shit to work on.

Edited October 13, 2022 by Codaxx

[52-80 19221]

4 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Card never showed that kind of anticipation on a throw in a live game. There is a reason that JT has 3 catches down the seam in 8 quarters with Ewers and had none with Card as a QB. He missed an open Whit. He is going to miss some throws, even Brady and Brees missed throws. He throws a much better deep ball, than Card. Going into the West Virginia game Card was rated the worst deep ball passer in the Big 12. The deep out to Worthy in the Bama game was an NFL throw, that few college Qbs can make. It is a throw that most college defense will not bother to cover, because so few teams will even attempt it at this level.

And that is a consequence of the things hes shown to do better: reads, confidence, decision making, etc, which is on the mental side.

He's had more success because of those attributes, not because he's dragging a cannon onto the field. 

How many deep balls has he shown this season?

[lemonandaturd 4285]

Quinn can make all the throws.  Everything that other guy just said is bullshit.    

[bigcigar 1164]

31 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Not going to argue about any particular throw or his performance in this game - just thought this was an interesting 'stat'.

Per PFF, Quinn Ewers has 7 'Big Time Throws' in 7 quarters of action (73 drop backs).

PFF defines 'Big Time Throws' as "passes that have excellent location and timing, generally thrown downfield into tighter windows".

For comparison - Hudson Card has 0 BTT's in 123 drop backs this season.

 

Other well-known/highly-regarded QB's:

CJ Stroud - 10 BTT's in 163 drop backs

Bryce Young - 9 BTT's in 152 drop backs

Hendon Hooker - 8 BTT's in 158 drop backs

 

Quinn leads the country in BTT% (percentage of throws that are Big Time Throws)

Nah. I just don’t see it. I’m a qb expert. Marginally better than card at throwing.

[Fondren & Main 6731]

24 minutes ago, lemonandaturd said:

Quinn can make all the throws.  Everything that other guy just said is bullshit.