QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[Hank_Hill 18807]

1 minute ago, BurgleBro said:

Would agree with all the hate had the OL not looked like utter shit most of the game. 

I’d have the yips too if my 1st round LT decided to let me get plastered all night

[gofuckyourself 8242]

1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

Arch Manning has a much higher ceiling than Quinn Ewers but there's no debating that, if healthy, Quinn Ewers is a better college quarterback on October 19, 2024, than Arch Manning. Whether he matches up better against Georgia's defense is a different question, but rallying from 23 down against an elite defense who lived in your backfield is not the sort of thing freshman QBs can be expected to do.

The problem is it's not just physical health at issue.

Quinn is mentally off, to the point his coach has to sit him down.

[BurgleBro 787]

1 minute ago, wild_turkey said:

Both can be true

It's all the spectrum of life

[Firemans4Horn 18051]

1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said:

I’d have the yips too if my 1st round LT decided to let me get plastered all night

Quinn’s mom and dad make less excuses for him than you do. 

[Derka 6214]

16 minutes ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

Quinn can’t block or throw the ball to himself. Sark and the O-line were terrible tonight

none of that has anything to do with the facts about quinn that were laid out in my post. the o line having a subpar half has nothing to do with quinn ewers’ career long failings.

Edited October 20 by Derka

[Funk Doctor Spock 12210]

Shut it down, boys. 

[BurgleBro 787]

Just now, gofuckyourself said:

The problem is it's not just physical health at issue.

Quinn is mentally off, to the point his coach has to sit him down.

If we start out against Vandy 1st Q no points then regardless of what happened today I will agree. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 12210]

1 minute ago, gofuckyourself said:

The problem is it's not just physical health at issue.

Quinn is mentally off, to the point his coach has to sit him down.

Seriously. When your backup has to come in for you, you know something is mentally not right. 

[Hank_Hill 18807]

1 minute ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Quinn’s mom and dad make less excuses for him than you do. 

I’ve admitted he looked like shit. I can also acknowledge probably any QB outside of Sanders and Ward this year would’ve looked exactly the same with that OL performance. 

[chainsaw 9869]

I don't think Quinn ever fully recovered from the UTSA injury. Hasn't looked the same, and getting sacked for -34 yards probably did not help. That heave to Helm after the 2 minute warning was a thing of beauty. He had his moments, but he couldn't quite punch it in when it mattered.

[Sgt Hulk 13716]

I just want to see him hit one pass in fucking stride beyond 10 yards. 

[hobbes2702 13034]

20 minutes ago, Muny_Tex said:

Yeah man totally agree those Westlake white boys with their Sugar Bowl MVP (as a 17 pt underdog), multiple Super Bowl MVPs, and greatest kicking record in the history of the sport definitely not bout it bout it.  Just no heart at all. 

If you can't spot the culture difference between WHS and pussy factories like LT/SLC then I dunno what to tell you. 

ANd for the record I know how outrageously lame/pathetic it is to bring "high school smack" into a discussion like this, but we all have our limits on what we can tolerate.

Lulz. Imagine giving this much of a shit where you went to High school lol.

[hobbes2702 13034]

49 minutes ago, NashLonghorn said:

You could have Dan Marino/Peyton Manning etc at QB but with the OL play they would have marginally done better.  VY would’ve done well cause he would’ve run the ball about 30 times tonight. 

Colts oline was never as good as this one.

[Hank_Hill 18807]

2 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

I just want to see him hit one pass in fucking stride beyond 10 yards. 

Well it’s happened a lot. Not tonight though. 

[wild_turkey 3159]

I’ve admitted he looked like shit. I can also acknowledge probably any QB outside of Sanders and Ward this year would’ve looked exactly the same with that OL performance. 

There were also plays where Quinn had time and he ignored open receivers, over or under threw targets, or threw into Georgia players’ hands. He is also slow and has zero ability to move when a rusher gets through the line. The line played poorly but that doesn’t excuse a lot of Quinn’s wtf moments.

[chainsaw 9869]

2 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Lulz. Imagine giving this much of a shit where you went to High school lol.

District 26-6A. It Just Means More.

[Funk Doctor Spock 12210]

4 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

I don't think Quinn ever fully recovered from the UTSA injury. Hasn't looked the same, and getting sacked for -34 yards probably did not help. That heave to Helm after the 2 minute warning was a thing of beauty. He had his moments, but he couldn't quite punch it in when it mattered.

Dude, that hard sack had me wondering if died. 

[gofuckyourself 8242]

Just now, BurgleBro said:

If we start out against Vandy 1st Q no points then regardless of what happened today I will agree. 

A QB has to lead a team. Their confidence, swagger whatever will rub off on the team, if it's present.

They don't have to be a chest-thumping, screaming emotional maniac, but they have to lead confidently and, bottom line, make the plays consistently.

Watching Ewers the last two games seems that none of that is there. It's also disappeared several other games throughout his career.

He often seems to exude very little confidence and is off for multiple series.

Against OU and Vandy, it may not matter.

Against Georgia and playoff competition, it will.

[Hank_Hill 18807]

Just now, wild_turkey said:

There were also plays where Quinn had time and he ignored open receivers, over or under threw targets, or threw into Georgia players’ hands. He is also slow and has zero ability to move when a rusher gets through the line. The line played poorly but that doesn’t excuse a lot of Quinn’s wtf moments.

You just said the same thing with more words. 

[chainsaw 9869]

Just now, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Dude, that hard sack had me wondering if died. 

This is why I wasn't so bothered by the switch to Arch, and I'm not going to read that much into it about Quinn's "psyche" or "mental toughness." He was getting killed out there in the first half.

[WBT 20572]

Arch also had 1/3 the turnovers on a lot fewer than 1/3 the snaps

[Funk Doctor Spock 12210]

On the bright side, Beck sucks. Sure, he'll throw for 400 yards, but you better expect at least 2 turnovers at the very least. Whomever drafts him will be the janitor by year 3. He'll be a huuuuge bust. But every organization thinks they can "fix" every issue. They can't, and they never learn. Maybe as a WR,RB, defense, but QB is a different animal. You either have it or you don't 

Edited October 20 by Funk Doctor Spock

[Hank_Hill 18807]

3 minutes ago, WBT said:

Arch also had 1/3 the turnovers on a lot fewer than 1/3 the snaps

7 sacks and 3 fumbles between the 2. We must have the worst pocket awareness in the country. 

[A’Dam Psycho 1470]

41 minutes ago, Tailgate said:

FIFY

Give up football if you believe this

[naija 2854]

4 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

On the bright side, Beck sucks. Sure, he'll throw for 400 yards, but you better expect at least 2 turnovers at the very least. Whomever drafts him will be the janitor by year 3. He'll be a huuuuge bust. But every organization thinks they can "fix" every issue. They can't, and they never learn. Maybe as a WR,RB, defense, but QB is a different animal. You either have it or you don't 

its a terrible year for QBs. Sanders is your #1? good luck with that

[satyanash 14486]

SiAP

 

[Funk Doctor Spock 12210]

1 minute ago, naija said:

its a terrible year for QBs. Sanders is your #1? good luck with that

Agree 100%. It's just a down year, I can't think think of one off the top of my head.

[naija 2854]

1 minute ago, satyanash said:

SiAP

 

no shit. but sorry, it will read as a cop-out to some...

[6th Street 6408]

He needs to sit. Liability out there 

[Mantis Toboggan, MD 1501]

Then he shouldn’t be playing

[Hank_Hill 18807]

6 minutes ago, satyanash said:

SiAP

 

If Sark is going to pull the Arch trigger this needs to be the reasoning and it needs to be this week against Vandy. Not convinced we’ll be better for it but who knows.

Edited October 20 by Hank_Hill

[naija 2854]

Just now, Hank_Hill said:

If Sark is going to pull the Arch trigger this needs to be the reasoning and it needs to be this week against Vandy. Not sure we’ll be better for it but who knows.

seriously, it's like Quinn is giving  the opening. 

[UTEE97 3521]

We have arguably the best WR room in the country. To not be able to get the ball to them is a crime! So much wasted talent on the field! I love Helm but he can't be the only guy catching Quinn's passes. I wonder why we haven't been able develop Quinn better. Should our QB coach Milwee get some of the blame or is it entirely on Quinn? 

[chainsaw 9869]

This is the first season Quinn did not have an elite RB to relieve him, either

[naija 2854]

Just now, UTEE97 said:

We have arguably the best WR room in the country. To not be able to get the ball to them is a crime! So much wasted talent on the field! I love Helm but he can't be the only guy catching Quinn's passes. I wonder why we haven't been able develop Quinn better. Should our QB coach Milwee get some of the blame or is it entirely on Quinn? 

ummmm, Ohio State

[MrBig 5398]

1 minute ago, UTEE97 said:

We have arguably the best WR room in the country. To not be able to get the ball to them is a crime! So much wasted talent on the field! I love Helm but he can't be the only guy catching Quinn's passes. I wonder why we haven't been able develop Quinn better. Should our QB coach Milwee get some of the blame or is it entirely on Quinn? 

Helm is the only one who can catch Quinn’s throws because he’s super tall and Quinn is always off by a mile. 

[Hermanator 7050]

3 minutes ago, satyanash said:

SiAP

 

He shouldn't have been playing last weekend or this weekend if that's the case. 

QB play cost us this win. The line struggled, but plays were there to be made that didn't get made. Great QBs in big games against other top teams know their line isn't going to dominate. You have to step up and make plays even when you aren't given ideal situations. 

That's the difference in the NFL between Dak and Mahomes. Ewers is looking way too much like Dak. 

[UTEE97 3521]

1 minute ago, naija said:

ummmm, Ohio State

We are not that far behind with multiple 5 stars and proven transfers. Our inability to use all those weapons in key games is doumbfounding to me. We appear to spread the ball around nicely in non-competitive games.

[naija 2854]

Quinn was asked after last week's game and said it was fine... not that he wasn't being less than truthful then, but best to just swallow this one 

[Hermanator 7050]

1 minute ago, UTEE97 said:

We are not that far behind with multiple 5 stars and proven transfers. Our inability to use all those weapons in key games is doumbfounding to me. We appear to spread the ball around nicely in non-competitive games.

This is the only game that's happened all year. And it's because the QB was poor and the game plan for said QB was predictable. 

[UTEE97 3521]

1 minute ago, Hermanator said:

This is the only game that's happened all year. And it's because the QB was poor and the game plan for said QB was predictable. 

Without looking at the statsheet, I thought we struggled to get the ball to the WRs in the OU game as well. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 12210]

2 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

We have arguably the best WR room in the country. To not be able to get the ball to them is a crime! So much wasted talent on the field! I love Helm but he can't be the only guy catching Quinn's passes. I wonder why we haven't been able develop Quinn better. Should our QB coach Milwee get some of the blame or is it entirely on Quinn? 

Seriously. I only remember Bond get 2 looks, Wingo 2 looks,Golden I can't remember, but it was low af. and Bolden 3. Moore for targeted for 2-3, and Quinn is seeing Ghosts. Beck gets the ball out in 2.3 seconds, all while Quinn is holding the ball for 6-7. No wonder he's taking sacks. 

To not only barely get the ball into your most explosive players hands is malpractice, it's egregious. Those screen passes were going nowhere and Sark just kept dialing them up over and over, and getting nothing. Also running a 5'10 185lb dude up the middle repeatedly was beyond moronic. That Georgia line was shutting him down, but please, by all means, square leg round hole it, Sark. Dumbass. 

11 minutes ago, naija said:

ummmm, Ohio State

I would argue we're on equal ground with Ohio State with WR'S. 

[closetohumping 17442]

38 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

That heave to Helm after the 2 minute warning was a thing of beauty. 

A heave is a thing of beauty?  Looked like he closed his eyes and threw it high 

[chainsaw 9869]

Just now, closetohumping said:

A heave is a thing of beauty?  Looked like he closed his eyes and threw it high 

He had faith in his guy. I love Gunnar Helm.

[Funk Doctor Spock 12210]

Helm is truly a  godsend that needs more appreciation. Never drops passes, blocks well, and has some wheels. 

[scottsins 1966]

Helm is truly a  godsend that needs more appreciation. Never drops passes, blocks well, and has some wheels. 

And false starts on 4th and 1 to make it 4th and 6 in the actual drive that ended our legitimate comeback chances.

[naija 2854]

7 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Seriously. I only remember Bond get 2 looks, Wingo 2 looks,Golden I can't remember, but it was low af. and Bolden 3. Moore for targeted for 2-3, and Quinn is seeing Ghosts. Beck gets the ball out in 2.3 seconds, all while Quinn is holding the ball for 6-7. No wonder he's taking sacks. 

To not only barely get the ball into your most explosive players hands is malpractice, it's egregious. Those screen passes were going nowhere and Sark just kept dialing them up over and over, and getting nothing. Also running a 5'10 185lb dude up the middle repeatedly was beyond moronic. That Georgia line was shutting him down, but please, by all means, square leg round hole it, Sark. Dumbass. 

I would argue we're on equal ground with Ohio State with WR'S. 

their top 4 WRs were literally the highest rated WRs in their respective years

[Funk Doctor Spock 12210]

6 minutes ago, naija said:

their top 4 WRs were literally the highest rated WRs in their respective years

Ratings aside, MJH was a 3 star, and ratings don't matter. Our WR's are talented  just as much as theirs when they get the ball. Ratings are a dumb metric for stardom. I could go through a litany of low rates recruits who balled, and same with high rated recruits who busted. Bond was a 5 star and he's lived up to his billing, same with Wingo when he gets his chance, Golden was a 4 star who balls out when given the chance, and next year we get the #2 and 3 WR's in the country. 

Admittedly, Jeremiah Smith is a freak, much like Ryan Williams. Wingo would be in that same conversation if dipshit Sark would allow stone feet Quinn to throw to  him, but they don't. 

Outside of r recruiting ratings (the same one who rates Jackson Arnold a 99 5 star), they're meaningless. You still have to coach them which, both us and tOSU do. Chris Jackson and Hartline are great at their jobs. The difference is QB play. 

Edited October 20 by Funk Doctor Spock

[Hank_Hill 18807]

15 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Seriously. I only remember Bond get 2 looks, Wingo 2 looks,Golden I can't remember, but it was low af. and Bolden 3. Moore for targeted for 2-3, and Quinn is seeing Ghosts. Beck gets the ball out in 2.3 seconds, all while Quinn is holding the ball for 6-7. No wonder he's taking sacks. 

To not only barely get the ball into your most explosive players hands is malpractice, it's egregious. Those screen passes were going nowhere and Sark just kept dialing them up over and over, and getting nothing. Also running a 5'10 185lb dude up the middle repeatedly was beyond moronic. That Georgia line was shutting him down, but please, by all means, square leg round hole it, Sark. Dumbass. 

 

Most of this is false, so you got that going for you.

[naija 2854]

1 minute ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Ratings aside, MJH was a 3 star, and ratings don't matter. Our WR's porsuxe just as much as theirs when they get the ball. Ratings are a dumb metric for stardom. I could go through a litany of low rates recruits who balled, and same with high rated recruits who busted. Bond was a 5 star and he's lived up to his billing, same with Wingo when he gets his chance, Golden was a 4 star who balls out when given the chance, and next year we get the (] and 3 WR's in the country. 
 

Outside of r recruiting ratings (the same one who rates Jackson Arnold a 99 5 star), they're meaningless. You still have to coach them which, both us and tOSU do. Chris Jackson and Hartline are great at their jobs. The difference is QB play. 

sure, ratings don't matter, except when the players are actually living up to those ratings. all 4 of them will likely be 1st round picks, 3 of them will be the #1-#2 WR off the board in their draft years.