QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[Hank_Hill 18789]

3 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Just thinking out loud but aside from Michigan when is a time our OL dominated a defense in the past few years?

 

 

They took Bamas soul last year

[Codaxx 5716]

4 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Check 1st and second down runs. 

Ill leave that up to you. The one thing that does separate Michigan from the other games. it the only game Quinn played without a turnover. Its the only game this year Texas didnt turn the ball over. 

[gurt 748]

4 hours ago, Had Enough said:

That may be, but their issue was not cover 3.  It was losing contain several times.  Yes, I saw the Brooks grind the tape.

Our first drive - 3rd and long.  Cover 3.  CB attacks upfield and allows Bond behind.  Not a play call issue. The TD called back.  Coverage broke down because of failing on pass rush integrity.  Was this also the drive that Ewers converted a 3rd down with his legs and a pump fake?  Yes, it was.  Not a coverage issue.

The Helm TD.  Pass rush integrity.

Seems like Goldens big play had a little QB movement and was a really nice throw.  Not really a play call failure.

Our 2nd TD drive we had 40 yards rushing and a 20 yard pass to Wisner.  That’s a cover 3 issue?

We made plays and they didn’t.  They elected to keep things in front of them.  If they execute better, they have better outcomes.  We scored 10 points off short fields.

There is critical information that we don’t have great information on.  First is what do these defenses typically do?  Then what is the actual breakdown of coverages.  We have no idea whether any of these teams broke tendencies.

At the same time, I never thought they blitzed that much.  I am confident in saying it wasn’t the same blitz so whether you have that shell there is variation in the coverage.

22% of our passes were 10+ air yards. Half of those were referenced in this post.  That’s a low number.

 

Sure, but when you change what the QB is seeing from pre-snap to post-snap like OU and Georgia did it makes it a lot harder to make plays, especially when your QB has a tendency to revert to bad habits when rattled.  They made it easy for a rhythm QB to know where to go with the ball, and a quick to counter OC know how to attack your tendencies.

 

[gurt 748]

2 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

They took Bamas soul last year

not running the ball.  2.8 ypc.  They pass blocked well, which has always been the strength of this OL under Flood.  You'd think these massive dudes would be better at throwing their weight around.

[Codaxx 5716]

4 minutes ago, gurt said:

Sure, but when you change what the QB is seeing from pre-snap to post-snap like OU and Georgia did it makes it a lot harder to make plays, especially when your QB has a tendency to revert to bad habits when rattled.  They made it easy for a rhythm QB to know where to go with the ball, and a quick to counter OC know how to attack your tendencies.

 

It is very common now. Most teams show 2 high safety pre-snap. Either stay the same or roll into 1 high 

If there is something to worry about in Qunn's game this year it is turnovers, which he had been very good at historically 

2022- 1 pick per 49.3 attempts 

2023- 1 pick per 65.7 attempts

2024- 1 per 31.33 attempts. You can add 2 lost fumbles. 8 turnovers in 6 starts. 

 

Edited October 31 by Codaxx

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 2935]

7 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Just thinking out loud but aside from Michigan when is a time our OL dominated a defense in the past few years?

 

 

2005

[LTtxfan 49142]

36 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

 If there is something to worry about in Qunn's game this year it is turnovers, which he had been very good at historically 

2022- 1 pick per 49.3 attempts 

2023- 1 pick per 65.7 attempts

2024- 1 per 31.33 attempts. You can add 2 lost fumbles. 8 turnovers in 6 starts. 

 

Yeah, three areas that the offense must improve are:

• the run game
• penalties
• turnovers

 

[Funk Doctor Spock 12176]

You guys are a bunch of nerds.

Carry on.

[Fondren & Main 6700]

Turnovers are FUCKING KILLING US right now.  That has to change.

[Thatguy 8671]

1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

Ill leave that up to you. The one thing that does separate Michigan from the other games. it the only game Quinn played without a turnover. Its the only game this year Texas didnt turn the ball over. 

Because we protected well. No busts. Receivers recognized blitzes. Smart and Muschamp found a couple things and kicked our ass with them. That's elite defensive minds for you. I said this shortly after the game but needs repeating. They clearly worked on us all summer for that game. People aren't going to want to hear this but that is probably the best thing that happened to us. It taught a lot of lessons, especially since Vandy was able to replicate it. So now Sark and crew have to go back to the drawing board and if we see Georgia again they won't have prepped for months for us.

[Surly Bevo 24908]

27 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Turnovers are FUCKING KILLING US right now.  That has to change.

Likewise doing jack and shit with the turnovers we ourselves get has been very frustrating the last two games (other than the TD we scored after the fans threw water bottles on the field to get that turnover)

[Codaxx 5716]

22 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Because we protected well. No busts. Receivers recognized blitzes. Smart and Muschamp found a couple things and kicked our ass with them. That's elite defensive minds for you. I said this shortly after the game but needs repeating. They clearly worked on us all summer for that game. People aren't going to want to hear this but that is probably the best thing that happened to us. It taught a lot of lessons, especially since Vandy was able to replicate it. So now Sark and crew have to go back to the drawing board and if we see Georgia again they won't have prepped for months for us.

Thrown an int 5 of 6 starts. That is just factual. It needs to improve. Not sure what the need is to spin everything. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 12176]

Regressing back to last year's RZ team is fucking killing us. That's not all on Quinn, it's a product of Sark being a pussy and not aggressive. Go watch the play by Raiola where on a 2pt conversion he flea flicked the ball into the runners hands on a fake. It was great. Sark is so predictable with his bs play calling. 

[Thatguy 8671]

4 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Thrown an int 5 of 6 starts. That is just factual. It needs to improve. Not sure what the need is to spin everything. 

What are you talking about? No one is spinning anything. 

[Jkwellborn 6686]

not running the ball.  2.8 ypc.  They pass blocked well, which has always been the strength of this OL under Flood.  You'd think these massive dudes would be better at throwing their weight around.

You might want to revisit the end of the game.

[Hank_Hill 18789]

2 hours ago, gurt said:

not running the ball.  2.8 ypc.  They pass blocked well, which has always been the strength of this OL under Flood.  You'd think these massive dudes would be better at throwing their weight around.

Meh, fuck the ypc. We closed the game out running 12 straight times to kill the last 7 minutes. 

Edited October 31 by Hank_Hill

[Thatguy 8671]

2 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Meh, fuck the ypc. We closed the game out running 12 straight times to kill the last 7 minutes. 

That's what the issue is with stats. They don't say whether you could run it when you needed to. 

[Hank_Hill 18789]

6 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

That's what the issue is with stats. They don't say whether you could run it when you needed to. 

PFF doesn’t have a “clutch play percentage”???

[Codaxx 5716]

25 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

PFF doesn’t have a “clutch play percentage”???

I believe that is in QBR..I think PFF just grade every play equally 

[Cairn Horn88 8259]

9 hours ago, Codaxx said:

i think Vandy was auto-blitzing the backside NB on OZ away from him. That crushed the little roll out pass that Sark likes to run off OZ. 

If that’s the case….Sark must adjust and call or check off a play that will compensate for that blitz, which Quinn has to hit on.

[Codaxx 5716]

3 hours ago, Thatguy said:

What are you talking about? No one is spinning anything. 

You are. I say Quinn has to stop throwing Ints and you go straight to Georgia and OL. He was plenty of Ints that weren’t due to pressure. Georgia pick being a great example of one of them. I know you and B.O.W have dug yourselves in, but it is the truth. I’d bet Sark and Quinn agree. There is no need to point the fingers and try to obfuscate the truth. Quinn needs to be more careful with the football 

Edited November 1 by Codaxx

[Fondren & Main 6700]

For as shitty as we played versus Georgia we were only down 8 after 3.  If Wisner catches that fucking pass then we are within a score or even tied and Sark can kick some fucking field goals instead of going for it on every 4th down.  People say the game wasn’t as close as the score, but I see a team that got punched in the mouth and rallied.  In the past, we would have quit and let it get ugly.  I’m confident we will get this sorted out and am no longer worried.

[Thatguy 8671]

51 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

You are. I say Quinn has to stop throwing Ints and you go straight to Georgia and OL. He was plenty of Ints that weren’t due to pressure. Georgia pick being a great example of one of them. I know you and B.O.W have dug yourselves in, but it is the truth. I’d bet Sark and Quinn agree. There is no need to point the fingers and try to obfuscate the truth. Quinn needs to be more careful with the football 

Dude quit trying to start fights for no reason. Just stop. Quarterbacks are going to make mistakes. And quarterbacks who are under pressure are going to make more mistakes than normal. You know this to be true but here we are trying to argue about it anyway. 

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

You are. I say Quinn has to stop throwing Ints and you go straight to Georgia and OL. He was plenty of Ints that weren’t due to pressure. Georgia pick being a great example of one of them. I know you and B.O.W have dug yourselves in, but it is the truth. I’d bet Sark and Quinn agree. There is no need to point the fingers and try to obfuscate the truth. Quinn needs to be more careful with the football 

There is absolutely no excuse for his interception vs UTSA or Oklahoma. 

Edited November 1 by BurntOrange&White

[Had Enough 2076]

7 hours ago, gurt said:

Sure, but when you change what the QB is seeing from pre-snap to post-snap like OU and Georgia did it makes it a lot harder to make plays, especially when your QB has a tendency to revert to bad habits when rattled.  They made it easy for a rhythm QB to know where to go with the ball, and a quick to counter OC know how to attack your tendencies.

 

Youre working in the theoretical rather than the actual.  Cover 3 takes away the deep ball in theory.  It does not take away the intermediate area too.  We did not attack that area.  
 

If Michigan gets pressure like Georgia and actually hits the QB, it’s a different game.  Instead Ewers breaks them down and makes several plays.  They also missed a number of tackles.

They ran 4, 5, 6 man fronts.  Gave 2 high safeties several times.  At least once the middle 3rd safety was 3 yards off the ball at the snap.  That 20 yard pass to Golden was a bit out of rhythm, but he also was pressed at the snap.  Several DBs blitzed too.  They jumped two routes but fortunately there was no turnover.

We played well.

 

[Hagbard Celine 10848]

7 hours ago, Thatguy said:

People aren't going to want to hear this but that is probably the best thing that happened to us. It taught a lot of lessons, especially since Vandy was able to replicate it. So now Sark and crew have to go back to the drawing board and if we see Georgia again they won't have prepped for months for us.

absolutely happy to hear this

it's midnight of the middle day of a 2nd bye week

i hope sark and crew are still up at belmont, sleeping on cots, waking up at 5, and figuring this shit out

[Hagbard Celine 10848]

3 hours ago, Fondren & Main said:

this is all good:

For as shitty as we played versus Georgia we were only down 8 after 3.  If Wisner catches that fucking pass then we are within a score or even tied and Sark can kick some fucking field goals instead of going for it on every 4th down.  People say the game wasn’t as close as the score, but I see a team that got punched in the mouth and rallied.  In the past, we would have quit and let it get ugly.

this is not good:

I’m confident we will get this sorted out and am no longer worried.

until we demonstrate that we have it sorted out, we haven't

/parcells

/citizensagainstbananasintailpipes

[Codaxx 5716]

11 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Dude quit trying to start fights for no reason. Just stop. Quarterbacks are going to make mistakes. And quarterbacks who are under pressure are going to make more mistakes than normal. You know this to be true but here we are trying to argue about it anyway. 

Its not starting a fight. It is pretty obvious issue. Look at the way Texas has started the last 3 games

1st possession Int vs Vandy. Vandy takes over at the Texas 31, they score a TD. Vs a team you want to get them out of their ball control offense and its 7-0 

0-0 vs Georgia. 3 possession fumble on the Texas 13. 7-0 Georgia

1 possession Int vs OU.. Ou starts at the Texas 45. They dont score, but eventually get the fg as field position game is slanted to OU. 

Texas has trailed in every 1Q the last 3 games. 2 were the direct result of turnovers. 3rd one was indirect. Texas is making winning hard. 

[Darth Tron 1122]

2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Texas has trailed in every 1Q the last 3 games. 2 were the direct result of turnovers. 3rd one was indirect. Texas is making winning hard. 

Edited November 1 by Darth Tron

[Hookem10 731]

14 hours ago, Fondren & Main said:

For as shitty as we played versus Georgia we were only down 8 after 3.  If Wisner catches that fucking pass then we are within a score or even tied and Sark can kick some fucking field goals instead of going for it on every 4th down.  People say the game wasn’t as close as the score, but I see a team that got punched in the mouth and rallied.  In the past, we would have quit and let it get ugly.  I’m confident we will get this sorted out and am no longer worried.

That game broke surly. Our defense played as well as they could but everyone says domination because of how offense performed. We can beat that team. And it was a game even when down by 15 at end. Just couldn’t convert late 4th downs. Dammmit. 

[MirrOlure 14757]

14 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

That game broke surly. Our defense played as well as they could but everyone says domination because of how offense performed. We can beat that team. And it was a game even when down by 15 at end. Just couldn’t convert late 4th downs. Dammmit. 

That game didn't break anything.  It just exposed preexisting bitchassedness.  

[Tex Long 4382]

If you had been offered to have the Georgia game be one score behind at the start of the fourth quarter... would you take it?

Would.

The problem was that we had just scored after the Bottle Deluge, kicked off and pinned UGa on their own 10... had them 3rd and 10, but then given up two consecutive passes for 60+ yards. Bad time for the D to fail - although we almost pulled off a massive goal line stand. 

All things considered, neither team looked all that great. They weren't that good, and we weren't that bad. They played better in Q4 and won. 

Play 'em again, with a healthy QB and something at least resembling a run game, I don't see any reason to fear another loss. 

[LTtxfan 49142]

SIAP...

Lack of a running game is allowing opposing defenses to not stack the box and play more shell coverages --  thereby forcing more underneath throws by Ewers in 2024.  Also many short throws are just extensions of the run game.  The fact that 2024 penalties are rising for the Texas OL, and the OL struggles with run blocking have also really hurt this year's Texas offense.

Couple all of the above issues plus Ewers being banged up... and it's no surprise that Quinn's 2024 avg. depth of target throws numbers have fallen off.  

 

Get the run game going better along with cleaning up all the OL bullshit and Ewers turnovers,  and offensive results should significantly improve.

 

Edited November 1 by LTtxfan
I suck editing

[Hank Chinaski 6312]

1 hour ago, Hookem10 said:

That game broke surly. 

What this post presupposes is…maybe we weren’t already broken?

[Fondren & Main 6700]

29 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

SIAP...

Lack of a running game is allowing opposing defenses to not stack the box and play more shell coverages --  thereby forcing more underneath throws by Ewers in 2024.  Also many short throws are just extensions of the run game.  The fact that 2024 penalties are rising for the Texas OL, and the OL struggles with run blocking have also really hurt this year's Texas offense.

Couple all of the above issues plus Ewers being banged up... and it's no surprise that Quinn's 2024 avg. depth of target throws numbers have fallen off.  

 

Get the run game going better along with cleaning up all the OL bullshit and Ewers turnovers,  and offensive results should significantly improve.

 

Preposterous!  Ewers is a pussy!  Jk

[Revolution512 1487]

I was told we just need to throw it deep more

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

One thing I like that IT does in their video breakdowns is they will actually show the game footage. Wonder why OTF does not? 

[Codaxx 5716]

1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

SIAP...

Lack of a running game is allowing opposing defenses to not stack the box and play more shell coverages --  thereby forcing more underneath throws by Ewers in 2024.  Also many short throws are just extensions of the run game.  The fact that 2024 penalties are rising for the Texas OL, and the OL struggles with run blocking have also really hurt this year's Texas offense.

Couple all of the above issues plus Ewers being banged up... and it's no surprise that Quinn's 2024 avg. depth of target throws numbers have fallen off.  

 

Get the run game going better along with cleaning up all the OL bullshit and Ewers turnovers,  and offensive results should significantly improve.

 

You made me check

2024- 6.9 per game and 56.8 yards

2023- 6.6 and 52.2 yards

 

not a big difference, especially since the SEC calls holding penalties. 

 

[Codaxx 5716]

1 hour ago, Revolution512 said:

I was told we just need to throw it deep more

I think the proper term is deeper. There is difference between the lowest ADOT in the P4 and say someone like Arch. 

Arch had an ADOT of 11.0 vs MSU and 23.3 vs UTSA (absolutely insane), not sure his overall ADOT

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

On 10/28/2024 at 7:25 AM, Codaxx said:

This is was true. Scip put out the intermediate numbers and they are troubling. Ewers was completing ~69% of his intermediate throws, which represented ~29% of his attempts last year. This year it is ~50% and represented just 16% of attempts since coming back. The intermediate game was Ewers' great asset last year. It has oddly disappeared this year.

Just a reminder.....

[immamac 42835]

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

One thing I like that IT does in their video breakdowns is they will actually show the game footage. Wonder why OTF does not? 

because OTF doesn't have a license to do it and IT just doesn't give a fuck about copystrike stuff?

[Fondren & Main 6700]

30 minutes ago, immamac said:

because OTF doesn't have a license to do it and IT just doesn't give a fuck about copystrike stuff?

[jw4381 3070]

1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

You made me check

2024- 6.9 per game and 56.8 yards

2023- 6.6 and 52.2 yards

 

not a big difference, especially since the SEC calls holding penalties. 

 

We’ll, they do on us, that’s for damn sure. 
 

 

[ztejas 43411]

Just now, jw4381 said:

We’ll, they do on us, that’s for damn sure. 
 

 

Yeah! The only reason Texas isn't Texas every season since 1970 is the refs!

You nailed it!

[Hookem10 731]

12 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Yeah! The only reason Texas isn't Texas every season since 1970 is the refs!

You nailed it!

This guy gets it 

[MrBig 5370]

The video shows some Michigan and Vandy TDs, but the majority of the footage is from last year. 
 

 

[WinningIsHard 4025]

12 hours ago, Codaxx said:

Its not starting a fight. It is pretty obvious issue. Look at the way Texas has started the last 3 games

1st possession Int vs Vandy. Vandy takes over at the Texas 31, they score a TD. Vs a team you want to get them out of their ball control offense and its 7-0 

0-0 vs Georgia. 3 possession fumble on the Texas 13. 7-0 Georgia

1 possession Int vs OU.. Ou starts at the Texas 45. They dont score, but eventually get the fg as field position game is slanted to OU. 

Texas has trailed in every 1Q the last 3 games. 2 were the direct result of turnovers. 3rd one was indirect. Texas is making winning hard. 

That first pick against vandy was the LB untouched blitzing? Our OL should be embarrassed to let a LB’er from vandy not get his ass punished for jumping in the air. That one is hardly Quinn’s fault, unless you want him to eat that hit I guess. That blindside hit from the Georgia CB is also pretty ballsy to blame on the qb. The rest are probably his fault but those two at least are just pretty shitty OL play and a really good defensive play call. 

[Thatguy 8671]

45 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

That first pick against vandy was the LB untouched blitzing? Our OL should be embarrassed to let a LB’er from vandy not get his ass punished for jumping in the air. That one is hardly Quinn’s fault, unless you want him to eat that hit I guess. That blindside hit from the Georgia CB is also pretty ballsy to blame on the qb. The rest are probably his fault but those two at least are just pretty shitty OL play and a really good defensive play call. 

These guys don't acknowledge anything but "Quinn is awful and won't even get drafted". Guys coming through an OL untouched....pffttt...If he wasn't a pussy he would've stiff-armed him and still thrown a dart then went to the lockerroom like...

[lilMAC25 3788]

On 10/31/2024 at 12:15 PM, Hank_Hill said:

They took Bamas soul last year

Bama, OkSt, Tech, KSU in 2022.

 

there are tons of examples.

[F250 28762]

Quinn is more than capable of the deep pass. Could somehow share some highlights of Quinn dropping the deep pass?