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Here is the issue regarding Quinn and Arch - 

At this point in the season we can't just put Arch in and say go get em. He's had hardly any real live game experience outside of 2 games earlier in the season. Sark and Quinn aren't putting away teams enough to give Arch any quality snaps. We have to roll with Quinn no matter what or we're fucked and we aren't doing shit in the playoffs. 

I would absolutely love to see what Arch could do, but realistically he probably doesn't do much. It's maddening watching Quinn play, but you have to go with experience and this defense to keep us in the NC hunt. I really think next season Arch will dominate, but we aren't gonna see that against Kentucky or aggy. It sucks going in circles with Quinn, but he at least finds ways to move the ball in some miraculous ways. 

It won't be Quinn who wins us a NC (assuming we make it there), it will be this defense. They're literally the only thing keeping this team at 9-1, and shutting down Georgia for the most part. It's too late in the season for us to plug in Arch. This was the same shit Mack would do. He wouldn't put teams away so we could get our heir any game time experience. Quinn is who he is. He isn't changing, and he isn't going to be lighting teams up aside from maybe 1 or 2 games. 

We'll see who he really can be in the playoffs. Sark still has him on training wheels, which is why we aren't seeing different routes. We're also down to two small RB's that Sark can't understand they aren't big enough to run through tackles. I don't know what the deal is with not playing Gibson more, but something has to give. We're 10 games into the season, he just had a 100 yard game, and then he disappears against Arky. I don't know what the fuck is going on in Sark's head, but he needs to pull it out of his ass and get more players involved. We're literally hanging on to and hoping Bond, Golden, or Moore to get us TD's. Same with Blue and Wisner. It's like Sark didn't learn from the Georgia game that both Blue and Wisner can be shut down easily. Also Quinn throwing to the flat that either hits the ground, Blue drops it, or Blue catches it and get tackled and loses yards. 

So basically, we have to hope new shit comes to light in the next 2 games and Quinn either goes ape shit for 5 TD's like against UF, or out defense gods ape shit like they did against Arky. There seems to be no middle ground other than self-sacking or dump offs. 

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QE, with sark as his third year coach, and surrounded by the best pass catchers in america, is no.25 nationally in QB RTG, and no.68 nationally in yards gained oer pass.
Arch Manning is no.2 nationally in both categories. 
weird how they have the exact same coach and surrounding cast, and yet both the eyeball test and the stats show that sark runs totally different offenses for each qb, with the arch manning offense being much more dynamic and explosive. hmm…i wonder what conclusions we can draw from that.

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For heaven's sake. QE is considering the possibility of returning to UT in 2025. Sark needs to have a come to Jesus talk with both QE and Arch. 

Where are you hearing that? I hope it’s not the tweet a few posts up. If so, read it again and oh attention to where the quotation marks are. JFC.
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45 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

Troy Aikman didn’t throw a great deep ball. Holy shit this thread is full of so much stupid it’s almost unbelievable. I’d say next we need somebody to claim Montana was panicky in the pocket like Quinn. 
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There may be more stupid in this thread than all of the other stupid threads in Surly history.

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6 hours ago, BlackCat said:

At this point I’m just telling myself that Sark built this team with Ewers as the center point and leader, and the team is riding or dying with that formula. It seems clear to me that culturally, Sark finally has the team he wants, and he isn’t gonna mess with all of that as long as we are winning. By most accounts I’ve seen or heard, Quinn is a good dude and well liked by his teammates. If the team feels invested in his success, then that would explain Sark sticking with him despite having dicks for feet and abysmal pocket presence. 

The time for a change has come and gone, IMO. Sark could have easily trotted Arch out there to start the second half against Georgia and seen where it took us while using the injury excuse for Ewers to shield him a bit. With two regular-season games left and a CFP berth literally at our fingertips, it just isn't worth it to potentially blow this whole thing up, especially with the media shitstorm that would come with Manning taking over unless there is injury or Ewers really just has a total collapse where he hands the ball to the other team 3 times in a half or something along those lines.

I will give Sark a little credit for learning from 2022 and not just continuing to have Ewers bang his head against the wall. He has adjusted the offense to a version that I'm sure isn't what him and the staff envisioned, but we can still get where we want to go when at our best. 

It's still hard for me to comprehend how bad Ewers' feel in the pocket has gotten. He was never elite, but it damn sure never looked this bad at the end of last year or the beginning of this year. 

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Quinn might be the most unique QB in college football history. I'm trying to think of someone who has had success like he has, while not being a threat to run, struggling with basic shit in the pocket, and being almost incapable of completing a ball thrown deep. 

This was intended to be a compliment. 

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6 hours ago, Derka said:

what kind of college football championship team thinks or plays this way? none.  absolutely nobody is out here trying to be the trent dilfer ravens. nobody thinks that you can win a national title while hiding your quarterback.

again, when arch comes in/starts the game we’re bombing the ball down the field and calling a totally different game than when QE is in. its two totally different offenses. it’s beyond clear by now that our offensive game planning and play calling have been centered around quinn’s shortcomings. been that way for more than a year. 

While I don’t disagree with some of your statements here, I’ll just ask you this: do you think it is also possible that we run different offenses with Arch and Quinn because we have a damn good HFC and OC who plays into his QB’s strengths? 

If I’m not fanboying over Arch, which is really easy to do with what we’ve seen this year in his limited action, I’m seeing him as someone who isn’t as accurate as Quinn in the short and intermediate game and doesn’t throw as good of a ball for YAC as Quinn. Arch has better mobility/pocket presence, better arm strength and more accurate on the deep ball. And Arch is a vocal fiery leader.

I think we can all agree that Arch has a higher ceiling and is probably closer to what Sark desires as his signal caller in his ideal offense. That said, it’s pretty much a guarantee based on QE being the guy that Sark feels more confident in his Quinn version of the offense with Quinn as a 3rd year starter running it over his Arch version of the offense with Arch the RS FR running it.

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14 hours ago, Derka said:

and who exactly has quinn played? he was terrible against the one team we played with a pulse, and his best win is against 5-3 vanderbilt where we scored zero TDs and six total points in the second half. show me all of the skins that QE has on his wall from this season?

beyond that, just look at the tape. arch’s tape dominates quinn’s tape despite arch playing way fewer snaps. QE has had 3-4x as many opportunities as Arch has had to put together a solid film reel, and yet its arch who we see making his reads and hitting his progressions, its arch who we see making plays with his legs, its arch who we see keeping his eyes downfield while moving up in the pocket, and its arch who we see making play after play downfield. what does quinn’s highlight reel look like, besides self sacks, sideways throws, and “jackpot!” level deep balls that land 15 yards beyond receiver? 

The two worst teams we played were the two teams that Arch started against. Full stop. Nothing else needs to be said.

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28 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Quinn might be the most unique QB in college football history. I'm trying to think of someone who has had success like he has, while not being a threat to run, struggling with basic shit in the pocket, and being almost incapable of completing a ball thrown deep. 

This was intended to be a compliment. 

He does some elite, unstoppable shit. He just doesn’t do it consistently enough. Maybe 20-30% of the time? But that’s enough to win a lot of games with our other talent against bad teams. 

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2 hours ago, Tired Horn said:

It's simple math, right? You want two years out of Arch, and if his upside is as high as it looks, he'll definitely be gone after his RS Jr year.  I actually like Quinn, but one way or another, this is his last year at Texas. 

Maybe Arch sticks around 3 more years to get more starts and experience???  

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5 hours ago, Hookem10 said:

IF he comes back. I’m assuming sark opens competition up. No assurances that qe is starter and he’ll transfer out. If he annoints qe as starter and arch leaves……oh boy fuck that noise 

I don’t even see this as a possible outcome. I think next year the Mannings and Arch are guaranteed QB1. I don’t see a world in which QE plays another season of CFB and plays for Texas. I could see him going to Michigan, Miami, Oregon, and a small handful of SEC schools if he gets around the intraconference transfer rules, than being back at Texas.

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50 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Quinn might be the most unique QB in college football history. I'm trying to think of someone who has had success like he has, while not being a threat to run, struggling with basic shit in the pocket, and being almost incapable of completing a ball thrown deep. 

This was intended to be a compliment. 

He's also definitely the worst player to ever be featured on a video game cover and in a prominent national ad campaign in the same year.

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20 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

He does some elite, unstoppable shit. He just doesn’t do it consistently enough. Maybe 20-30% of the time? But that’s enough to win a lot of games with our other talent against bad teams. 

New thread title? “Quinn Ewers - 20 to 30% of the time he’s elite every time.”

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14 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

That was a pretty bad comparison because using your way of thinking, we just played the worst pass defense in our “district”…..  

That's not how football works. Notice you said they have a bad pass defense. Why? Could it be that because they employ a 3-3-5 in the SEC they find themselves having to spin DBs down to deal with the running game leaving them vulnerable on the back end?

And if that were true wouldn't it mean that if they ever played a team that couldn't force them to spin down their DBs to help in the running game they would find themselves a little more capable on the back end? Quinn did not play well but we have struggled vs the 3-3-5 flyover since Sark has been here. The way Sark's route combos are matchup well with what the 3-3-5 does. The throw up the sideline to Golden that got broken up and the throw to Wingo are easily defended due to the 3 safeties on the field. In both those instances they rushed 3 qand dropped 8. Those same routes vs 2 safeties are catches.

Sometimes a team is finding running success but you decide it isn't hurting you bad enough to come out of your base shell. You would rather trade giving up rushing yards in order to prevent from giving your opponent easy passing yards. We do this all the time.

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2 minutes ago, I Plead Da Fif said:

 I could see him going to Michigan, Miami, Oregon, and a small handful of SEC schools if he gets around intraconference transfer rules, than being back at Texas.

Yeah, if a player goes in this 1st portal window, SEC now allows transfers to play immediately.  Grad transfers have immediate eligibility too...

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4 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

That's not how football works. Notice you said they have a bad pass defense. Why? Could it be that because they employ a 3-3-5 in the SEC they find themselves having to spin DBs down to deal with the running game leaving them vulnerable on the back end?

And if that were true wouldn't it mean that if they ever played a team that couldn't force them to spin down their DBs to help in the running game they would find themselves a little more capable on the back end? Quinn did not play well but we have struggled vs the 3-3-5 flyover since Sark has been here. The way Sark's route combos are matchup well with what the 3-3-5 does. The throw up the sideline to Golden that got broken up and the throw to Wingo are easily defended due to the 3 safeties on the field. In both those instances they rushed 3 qand dropped 8. Those same routes vs 2 safeties are catches.

Sometimes a team is finding running success but you decide it isn't hurting you bad enough to come out of your base shell. You would rather trade giving up rushing yards in order to prevent from giving your opponent easy passing yards. We do this all the time.

There was an article out there that basically explained it saying Arkansas played 3 high and it absolutely takes the deep balls away. It’s also true Ewers doesn’t throw it as well as we’d like but in the end until Texas can reliably run the ball, teams are going to force Texas to run and short pass the way down the field.  Sark said as much and it’s why he said in the second half we had to be able to run the ball. Again, we have to start with a good running game for sark’s offense to be as deadly as we’ve known it to be.

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22 minutes ago, I Plead Da Fif said:

I don’t even see this as a possible outcome. I think next year the Mannings and Arch are guaranteed QB1. I don’t see a world in which QE plays another season of CFB and plays for Texas. I could see him going to Michigan, Miami, Oregon, and a small handful of SEC schools if he gets around the intraconference transfer rules, than being back at Texas.

Michigan is desperate.  Would be funny if he came back and played at DKR in a Michigan uniform.  

 

I'm going to assume Sark ain't dumb enough to give up three years of Arch for 1 year of Quinn

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1 minute ago, troph said:

There was an article out there that basically explained it saying Arkansas played 3 high and it absolutely takes the deep balls away. It’s also true Ewers doesn’t throw it as well as we’d like but in the end until Texas can reliably run the ball, teams are going to force Texas to run and short pass the way down the field.  Sark said as much and it’s why he said in the second half we had to be able to run the ball. Again, we have to start with a good running game for sark’s offense to be as deadly as we’ve known it to be.

That is correct. Tell it to the rest of these guys.

Sark can be very stubborn with his packages. Very. Last year we figured out using an extra linemen would force teams out of that 3 safety look but Sark has abandoned it. He wants to always be able to throw it so he will stubbornly stay with 12 personnel at worst. He also doesn't really like to throw outs, comebacks, or stop routes. You know, shit most teams throw every game. He only really dusts those off when we are struggling. When he is calling it the way he wants to every route is on the move. Even the short shit for the most part. Last game as soon as we needed to put points on the board Sark went in his bag and called what he knew would work and we marched right down and scored. When Arch first popped in the game this year he was running that Shanahan OZ boot with levels on the back end to give Arch half field reads. He doesn't do that for Quinn unless he has to. He finally rolled the pocket for the guy on Saturday.

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4 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Michigan is desperate.  Would be funny if he came back and played at DKR in a Michigan uniform.  

 

I'm going to assume Sark ain't dumb enough to give up three years of Arch for 1 year of Quinn

Our defense would have 10 sacks and multiple picks 

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27 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

That's not how football works. Notice you said they have a bad pass defense. Why? Could it be that because they employ a 3-3-5 in the SEC they find themselves having to spin DBs down to deal with the running game leaving them vulnerable on the back end?

And if that were true wouldn't it mean that if they ever played a team that couldn't force them to spin down their DBs to help in the running game they would find themselves a little more capable on the back end? Quinn did not play well but we have struggled vs the 3-3-5 flyover since Sark has been here. The way Sark's route combos are matchup well with what the 3-3-5 does. The throw up the sideline to Golden that got broken up and the throw to Wingo are easily defended due to the 3 safeties on the field. In both those instances they rushed 3 qand dropped 8. Those same routes vs 2 safeties are catches.

Sometimes a team is finding running success but you decide it isn't hurting you bad enough to come out of your base shell. You would rather trade giving up rushing yards in order to prevent from giving your opponent easy passing yards. We do this all the time.

I swear you might be Quinn Ewers….  Does the fact he was 98th in passes over 20 yards last year and worse this year resonates with you at all. 10 plus is not great either.   Or is it all someone else’s fault because the RB, the oline, the weather, ect aren’t perfect?   I’m not close to as against him as you are for him no matter what.  

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1 minute ago, Hook1997 said:

I swear you might be Quinn Ewers….  Does the fact he was 98th in passes over 20 yards last year and worse this year resonates with you at all.  Or is it all someone else’s fault because the RB, the oline, the weather, ect aren’t perfect?   I’m not close to as against him as you are for him no matter what.  

It's not about being for him or against him. It's simply understanding what you are looking at and how matchups work. You guys heard he was the highest rated QB recruit ever and bought into that shit. Now you are disappointed every week the dude trots out on the field expecting him to be something he isn't. Had you seen him as the unathletic player he is you wouldn't be here crying every week. Why isn't there 85 pages of how shitty Card was? Because he wasn't a 99 recruit rating. Your disappointment is your own fault. Quit getting mad at me because dude doesn't live up to your lofty expectations. 

You've been looking at this kid for 3 years now and are still pissed that he can't run, gets hurt easily, and the line has to keep him clean in able for him to perform. Why haven't you accepted his short comings and moved on? Tom Brady was a statue in his time and didn't have the arm other QBs did. So they gave him a great line and built an offense around him based on the short passing game.

Dude had a mediocre game with no turnovers but yall are here bitching like he threw 3 picks and we lost.

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34 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Michigan is desperate.  Would be funny if he came back and played at DKR in a Michigan uniform.  

 

I'm going to assume Sark ain't dumb enough to give up three years of Arch for 1 year of Quinn

The funny thing is I think he would do really well in an offense like Michigan’s, assuming there’s a solid power RB and a couple of targets for him to throw to. I imagine Michigan fans would kill for QE this year at QB too.

Michigan doesn’t come back to Austin until 2027, playoffs notwithstanding. Arch gets to face off against Ohio State the next two years for our non conf big opponent.

Michigan really would be a perfect match if he doesn’t like where his draft grades put him.

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I’ll just make a few notes for posterity here.

The run game has been fine.  Georgia was the worst, and it was Wisner the whole time.  We may be small, but it’s a bs excuse to not hit it up some between the tackles.  Blue has been showing a feel the last two games.  He can provide some run inside.

We went from criticizing Michigan and their cover 3 (Nevermind they showed cover 2 presnap, ran some 4/5/6 man fronts) to wondering how this 3 safety look confuses the hell out of us.  Watch the S on the Golden TD.  Terrible.  We had opportunities deep.

Versus Michigan, we broke the pocket or stepped into it.  The 30 yarder to Bond was terrible execution on UMs part.  Helm TD broken pocket.  Same for the called back TD.  The intermediate stuff was largely missing here too 

I’ll buy that we need to sit on our routes more.  Have Quinn rip it in there.  Sark wanted his arm.  Use it then.  

Blue needs to be our offensive MVP the remainder of the season.  He’s the biggest mismatch on the field bard on the matchups he’ll likely get.

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QE is facing defenses that aren’t respecting the run. Bijan was a known entity his first year, JBrooks was feared his second year, and now we’re out multiple guys for Quinn’s third year. The man coverage isn’t happening as much. I haven’t seen a 15 yard out once this year I remember. X got that 2-3 times a game. The check downs, while annoying, are the right move. 

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1 hour ago, StassneyHorn said:

The rush to quit on Blue isn’t warranted.

Nobody quit on him. We were all rightfully leery of a guy who isn’t really built to run between the tackles a bunch, looked banged up prior the Florida game and is averaging a fumble about every 40 touches for his career over 3 years.

Blue and Wisner both getting 15ish touches a game is the sweet spot for this offense. We need to stop pretending we have a bellcow RB on this team who needs to touch the ball 20+ times.

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3 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

The dude has made god knows how much money already, he’s going to go if he’s graded anywhere in the top 3 rounds. Which he will be. He’s not coming back to college. Michigan is about to dump their whole pile on a QB and it won’t be Ewers.

Cam Rising might be able to get another five or six years (in between injury seasons).

2 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

 We need to stop pretending we have a bellcow RB on this team who needs to touch the ball 20+ times.

We may, but he is injured.

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i like how we have a video of chris simms, who is clearly trying to exalt Texas with his take, explicitly saying, “quinn ewers locks onto his first read and then just stands frozen in the pocket waiting for him to get open, instead of making his read progressions and looking for his second, third, fourth option”, and that video, which got glossed over by 99% of the people here, is surrounded by 300 pages of surly posters going, “nah that’s bullshit, our running game just sucks.”

we legitimately have a qb who is 1)not a threat to run, 2)not a threat to regularly throw the ball more than five yards downfield, 3)who cannot make read progressions, and 4)who is scared of contact and has zero pocket presence because of it, and yet the popular sentiment among a large portion of this thread is, “yeah if our run game was better then everyone would see how awesome quinn ewers is.”

 

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i’m going to name some qbs, and i’ll ask you to think of the times that they led- truly led- Texas to a victory via their leadership and on-field play, particularly in tight/big games.

•peter gardere

•james brown

•major applewhite

•chance mock

•vince young

•colt mccoy

•case mccoy

•tyrone swoopes

•sam ehlinger

•arch manning

•quinn ewers

now ask yourself: with all of the wins we’ve had during QE’s time as a starter, why doesn’t he immediately have more famous wins come to mind than the likes of, say, james brown, major applewhite, or sam ehlinger? we all thought of the game in tuscaloosa when we saw quinn’s name, but what else? how many times has our third year, “heisman candidate/no.1 overall pick”, $1M NIL QB actually led his team to a win with his leadership and play? not many. i’m not saying he’s all hat and no cattle, but is like 90/10. our defense, coaching, and stockpile of nfl talent has been winning us games while our superstar QB has largely been a passenger.

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1 hour ago, Derka said:

 how many times has our third year, “heisman candidate/no.1 overall pick”, $1M NIL QB actually led his team to a win with his leadership and play? not many. i’m not saying he’s all hat and no cattle, but is like 90/10. our defense, coaching, and stockpile of nfl talent has been winning us games while our superstar QB has largely been a passenger.

And this is exactly the example of what I am talking about above. Derka is using the phrase " heisman candidate/no.1 overall pick”, $1M NIL QB". Those are Derka's expectations based on what he was told by some 9.95ers years ago. I knew after 3 games that Jordan Whittington wasn't really a 5 star. Same with Johnathan Gray. If a guy is not overly athletic he can always be gotten to by a good pass rush. The only thing special about Ewers is his arm. He isn't particularly tall to see over the defense. He is pretty slight and isn't going to break arm tackles. He isn't going to juke you and he isn't fast enough to run away from defenders. When you come to that realization you start to see him differently and your expectations adjust accordingly. You stop saying why can't Ewers do A, B, and C that he cannot physically do and you start saying why aren't we giving him A, B, and C so he can do what we know he can do.

 

 

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9 hours ago, troph said:

There was an article out there that basically explained it saying Arkansas played 3 high and it absolutely takes the deep balls away. It’s also true Ewers doesn’t throw it as well as we’d like but in the end until Texas can reliably run the ball, teams are going to force Texas to run and short pass the way down the field.  Sark said as much and it’s why he said in the second half we had to be able to run the ball. Again, we have to start with a good running game for sark’s offense to be as deadly as we’ve known it to be.


Can’t rely on the running game when we fumble every 10th carry

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2 hours ago, Derka said:

i like how we have a video of chris simms, who is clearly trying to exalt Texas with his take, explicitly saying, “quinn ewers locks onto his first read and then just stands frozen in the pocket waiting for him to get open, instead of making his read progressions and looking for his second, third, fourth option”, and that video, which got glossed over by 99% of the people here, is surrounded by 300 pages of surly posters going, “nah that’s bullshit, our running game just sucks.”

Because Derka, we all have eyes and can see Ewers going through his progressions. Even the announcers at the game are talking about him going through his progressions in real time. 1:30, 9:03, and 9:22 of the video below are three quick examples of Ewers CLEARLY going through progressions.

 

https://x.com/NashTalksTexas/status/1857938058860990971

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6 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Because Derka, we all have eyes and can see Ewers going through his progressions. Even the announcers at the game are talking about him going through his progressions in real time. 1:30, 9:03, and 9:22 of the video below are three quick examples of Ewers CLEARLY going through progressions.

 

https://x.com/NashTalksTexas/status/1857938058860990971

Yeah but Simms, pathetically grasping for any shred of attention, talked shit about a Texas QB! 

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It's not about being for him or against him. It's simply understanding what you are looking at and how matchups work. You guys heard he was the highest rated QB recruit ever and bought into that shit. Now you are disappointed every week the dude trots out on the field expecting him to be something he isn't. Had you seen him as the unathletic player he is you wouldn't be here crying every week. Why isn't there 85 pages of how shitty Card was? Because he wasn't a 99 recruit rating. Your disappointment is your own fault. Quit getting mad at me because dude doesn't live up to your lofty expectations. 
You've been looking at this kid for 3 years now and are still pissed that he can't run, gets hurt easily, and the line has to keep him clean in able for him to perform. Why haven't you accepted his short comings and moved on? Tom Brady was a statue in his time and didn't have the arm other QBs did. So they gave him a great line and built an offense around him based on the short passing game.
Dude had a mediocre game with no turnovers but yall are here bitching like he threw 3 picks and we lost.

There are people here saying that he threw the ball decently against ark and that can win playoff games. 200 yards ain’t much when you need points. I’m pretty sure they’ll be a game where Texas needs to score.
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3 hours ago, Derka said:

 

we legitimately have a qb who is 1)not a threat to run, 2)not a threat to regularly throw the ball more than five yards downfield, 3)who cannot make read progressions, and 4)who is scared of contact and has zero pocket presence because of it, and yet the popular sentiment among a large portion of this thread is, “yeah if our run game was better then everyone would see how awesome quinn ewers is.”

 

 

and to help you Derka the hyperbole in this post is why people respond to you the way they do. Opposing teams are keeping their safeties back because THEY respect our ability to carve them up more than they respect our ability to run on them. Defensive alignment by your opponent tells you WHAT they feel is the most dangerous part of your offense. Arkansas kept 3 high safeties all day saying if you are going to beat us you are going to do it throwing underneath. Below is two shots of us in 12 personnel. Heavy run sets with double tight ends. One shot is the 1st series and the other the 4th quarter. Look at Arky sitting in 3 high completely ignoring what we have in the box. What are they afraid of Derka? They are afraid of that same QB you say sucks and isn't a threat to throw the ball downfield. When you have a box this light vs 7 blockers YOU DO NOT respect your opponent's running game at all.

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Now watch how they deal with same personnel grouping for Tenn and Aggy. 4 man fronts instead of 3 man fronts taking away an extra man in coverage.

 

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Even Ole Miss, who runs mainly 11 personnel, saw 4 man fronts on early downs.

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Week 12 PFF SEC QB Rankings | LouisianaSports.net | LouisianaSports.net

Here are the SEC Quarterback Grades through week 12 for all 16 current starters in the SEC:

1. Jaxson Dart , Ole Miss

Grade: 91.4

Nat’l Rank: 5

2. Jalen Milroe, Alabama 

Grade: 89.1

Nat’l Rank: 18

3. Taylen Green, Arkansas 

Grade: 86.8

Nat’l Rank: 29

4. Diego Pavia , Vanderbilt 

Grade: 84.4

Nat’l Rank: 45

5. Carson Beck, UGA

Grade: 80.2

Nat’l Rank: 76

6. Garrett Nussmeier, LSU

Grade: 80.0

Nat’l Rank: 77

7. Payton Thorne, Auburn 

Grade: 76.3

Nat’l Rank: 108

8. Nico Iamaleava, Tennessee 

Grade: 74.7

Nat’l Rank: 122

9. Brady Cook, Missouri 

Grade: 74.0

Nat’l Rank: 131

10. Brock Vandagriff, Kentucky

Grade: 69.2

Nat’l Rank: 189

11. DJ Lagway, Florida 

Grade: 68.9

Nat’l Rank: 192

12. Marcel Reed, Texas A&M 

Grade: 68.7

Nat’l Rank: 195

13. Quinn Ewers, Texas 

Grade: 68.0

Nat’l Rank: 200

14. LaNorris Sellers, South Carolina

Grade: 64.5

Nat’l Rank: 235

15. Michael van Buren, Mississippi State

Grade: 61.8

Nat’l Rank: 264

16. Jackson Arnold, Oklahoma 

Grade: 58.9

Nat’l Rank: 27

 

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23 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

and to help you Derka the hyperbole in this post is why people respond to you the way they do. Opposing teams are keeping their safeties back because THEY respect our ability to carve them up more than they respect our ability to run on them. Defensive alignment by your opponent tells you WHAT they feel is the most dangerous part of your offense. Arkansas kept 3 high safeties all day saying if you are going to beat us you are going to do it throwing underneath. Below is two shots of us in 12 personnel. Heavy run sets with double tight ends. One shot is the 1st series and the other the 4th quarter. Look at Arky sitting in 3 high completely ignoring what we have in the box. What are they afraid of Derka? They are afraid of that same QB you say sucks and isn't a threat to throw the ball downfield. When you have a box this light vs 7 blockers YOU DO NOT respect your opponent's running game at all.

Screenshot(617).thumb.png.d95da3fa473cca3759128d33ca223aec.png

 

Screenshot(618).thumb.png.d6e73611259b616223e1e6865b43edf8.png

 

Now watch how they deal with same personnel grouping for Tenn and Aggy. 4 man fronts instead of 3 man fronts taking away an extra man in coverage.

 

Screenshot(621).thumb.png.4a405d6699f59471e06b2c1458cd8357.png

 

Screenshot(624).thumb.png.ec9f8cbe0b83a5044378d0dfe79d6c57.png

 

Even Ole Miss, who runs mainly 11 personnel, saw 4 man fronts on early downs.

Screenshot(619).thumb.png.ff4d3a763dc21ab311b2130d79b61cbf.png

 

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too lazy to go back and find my post in the Texas v ark thread, but I pulled out 2 looks that Ark ran vs Tenn that I thought Texas would see in the game. 

1 was the 3 high look. They gave Tenn the run much of the game and completely shut down the passing game. RB had about as many yards rushing as Nico had passing. I am sure you saw that, if you looked to crop out some look from the game 

The other look was a 7 man pressure, where they dropped 2 and brought 5

 

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