QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[Longhornlove 4791]

2 hours ago, Tex Long said:

Quite a few quotes of Shipley with  "We cannot afford to lose another game IMO."

Not entirely correct. We can afford to lose the CCG and would still be in the 5-12 bracket.

Losing to UK or aggy likely keeps us out of the CCG, and might shove us out of 5-12 as well.

At this point we have at least three games left. Whether the third one is the CCG, a first-round homer, or a Toilet Bowl remains to be seen. If we keep winning, we have the three and another three in the playoffs. Could be a lotta games left, and they're just gonna keep getting tougher. 

Bob Shipley although a likable good ole boy is and has been over his head. Irwin I get and respect. Shipley, and I mean this in the nicest way, is just an old dumb jock. He has never given me any reason to think he was ever more than a mediocre coach at any level. There is your Hawt take. My personal opinion of course.

Edited 6 hours ago by Longhornlove

[Levi 2578]

Going over that play again makes me sad but I’ll die thinking both Ewers and AD were shocked at the coverage the DB played. By the time they both realized it, it was too late. 

[MrBig 5356]

27 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Every QB is taught to throw that ball high to take advantage of the mismatch(6'5 vs 5'10) which is exactly why we chose AD to go to. The ball is out before the receiver break. At that point you are expecting your receiver to put his cleats in the ground for separation, come back, and high point the football on the sideline. You aren't expecting him to round off his route and not jump. Even the DB knows what we are trying to do which is why he is ready to jump and bat the ball down.

The pre-snap look had the defender nearly 10 yards off of AD. And Quinn just follows the script and makes no adjustment. This is our Achilles heel with Quinn. He can’t improvise and we’re dead in the water if he can’t execute Sark’s script. A script that is watered down and hampered by Quinn’s inability to connect on the deep ball. 
 

[markstanco 12563]

That throw fucking sucked regardless of these mental gymnastics.
It’s also pretty stark the way you talk about Quinn now vs last year and the year before. Now it’s all about how he was overrated as a recruit whereas the last two years it was blame X, AD, JT, etc. 

In fairness those 3 receivers were mid.

[Thatguy 8664]

8 minutes ago, MrBig said:

The pre-snap look had the defender nearly 10 yards off of AD. And Quinn just follows the script and makes no adjustment. This is our Achilles heel with Quinn. He can’t improvise and we’re dead in the water if he can’t execute Sark’s script. A script that is watered down and hampered by Quinn’s inability to connect on the deep ball. 
 

What are you talking about? The DB breaks on the route and no matter where that ball was thrown he was going to be there to contest it. He only jumped because he saw it was high. If it was low he would've been there to get his hands on it too. In fact, he broke so quickly that had it been a low throw he could've stepped in front of it. The problem is the route. AD needs one hard left inside step to make the DB take one step inside and he catches this ball uncontested. He never sold anything to the inside. Anyone who has played receiver, DB, or QB can tell you that is an awful route. In fact, I challenge you to find anywhere saying that is a good route. DBs are taught to protect inside out. One hard step inside and the DB will bite.

[Levi 2578]

22 minutes ago, MrBig said:

The pre-snap look had the defender nearly 10 yards off of AD. And Quinn just follows the script and makes no adjustment. This is our Achilles heel with Quinn. He can’t improvise and we’re dead in the water if he can’t execute Sark’s script. A script that is watered down and hampered by Quinn’s inability to connect on the deep ball. 
 

AD didn’t do much of an adjustment either tho. The throw that Ewers needs to make in this situation is almost just as difficult because the way AD places his body. His hips are faced the wrong way so he would have to quickly flip them and plant a foot in the ground to make a borderline diving catch. So throwing it to the pylon would make it an insane catch by AD. If they could do it all over again I’m betting AD runs a route similar to the one in the CCG against okie st, and it’s an easy pitch and catch.

Edit: this isn’t me saying it was all AD. They both messed up and were unfortunately unprepared for the look. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Levi

[Thatguy 8664]

46 minutes ago, MrBig said:

The pre-snap look had the defender nearly 10 yards off of AD. And Quinn just follows the script and makes no adjustment. This is our Achilles heel with Quinn. He can’t improvise and we’re dead in the water if he can’t execute Sark’s script. A script that is watered down and hampered by Quinn’s inability to connect on the deep ball. 
 

 

7:34 mark below

Same receiver and same play to the other side vs Houston. Watch AD take a hard step inside and watch the sep it gives him when he cuts back outside. This is how you run that route. It doesn't matter how far off the DB is. The hard fake close to the goal line will get the reaction you need. This is what Quinn is expecting. Now contrast that with the route run against Washington. Night and day difference.

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Thatguy

[MrBig 5356]

25 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

 

7:34 mark below

Same receiver and same play to the other side vs Houston. Watch AD take a hard step inside and watch the sep it gives him when he cuts back outside. This is how you run that route. It doesn't matter how far off the DB is. The hard fake close to the goal line will get the reaction you need. This is what Quinn is expecting. Now contrast that with the route run against Washington. Night and day difference.

 

 

This play is making my point about the Washington throw. Look how close to the pylon AD is in the UH game. Quinn throws it there near the pylon against Washington and we’re playing for a title. The ball was out of Quinn’s hands before AD made the cut at Washington so blaming the cut for ball placement is irrelevant even though it was poor route running. 

Quinn had pressure in his face at Washington and threw a lob when it should have been thrown like in the UH game.

 

[Nivek 16913]

This thread is gonna be very different after Quinn pisses down his leg in College Station. 

Fuck off aggy

[WinningIsHard 4031]

2 hours ago, markstanco said:

In fairness those 3 receivers were mid.

You’ll catch a lot of hell for saying that but based off nfl evidence so far…that seems pretty accurate. Mitchell is really athletic but I’m not certain he knew how to even play wr while at Texas lol. I think helm is a better TE than sanders and worthy struggles to make an impact with Andy Reid/mahomes. I am over all this though, if Quinn struggles against Kentucky he needs to be pulled and let the arch era begin. Our defense is elite and probably the best I’ve seen in my lifetime. Our offense needs to make a couple plays here and there to move the chains and not turn it over. We play for a championship if Quinn wakes up or arch is who we think he is. 

[Thatguy 8664]

1 hour ago, MrBig said:

This play is making my point about the Washington throw. Look how close to the pylon AD is in the UH game. Quinn throws it there near the pylon against Washington and we’re playing for a title. The ball was out of Quinn’s hands before AD made the cut at Washington so blaming the cut for ball placement is irrelevant even though it was poor route running. 

Quinn had pressure in his face at Washington and threw a lob when it should have been thrown like in the UH game.

 

The saying is true. "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink".

Again. It doesn't matter where the ball is thrown vs Washington ole buddy is closing fast and would've broken it up. Had Mitchell run the Houston route vs Washington the Washington DB wouldn't be anywhere close to the ball no matter where it was thrown because of the separation on the break. Now out of respect for you I will leave it at that but you won't find a single coach that will tell you the Washington route was the right one.

[jimmyjazz 45827]

17 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

You’ll catch a lot of hell for saying that but based off nfl evidence so far…that seems pretty accurate. Mitchell is really athletic but I’m not certain he knew how to even play wr while at Texas lol. I think helm is a better TE than sanders and worthy struggles to make an impact with Andy Reid/mahomes. 

LOL what?  X has over 350 yards halfway through his rookie season with the 2-time Super Bowl champions.  I'd say he's doing OK.  Mitchell is one of the most clutch receivers I've seen in years, over 3 seasons at the highest level in college.

[Da Fino 2766]

3 hours ago, Levi said:

Going over that play again makes me sad but I’ll die thinking both Ewers and AD were shocked at the coverage the DB played. By the time they both realized it, it was too late. 

It’s was a shitty route. 

[Hank_Hill 18754]

Did always wonder why he turned around that way instead of right. But, c’est la vie, we were lucky to even get that drive.

[Lerka Lerka 1086]

This thread is reading like the offseason. 

[Irish Wrist Watch 1359]

4 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Every QB is taught to throw that ball high to take advantage of the mismatch(6'5 vs 5'10) which is exactly why we chose AD to go to. The ball is out before the receiver break. At that point you are expecting your receiver to put his cleats in the ground for separation, come back, and high point the football on the sideline. You aren't expecting him to round off his route and not jump. Even the DB knows what we are trying to do which is why he is ready to jump and bat the ball down.

He couldn't fully extend because the pass was out of bounds. He had to keep his feet in bounds. Not a one of the four throws into the end zone against Wash were even close to being caught, IMHO

Edited 2 hours ago by Irish Wrist Watch

[Levi 2578]

26 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

It’s was a shitty route. 

It was. Maybe him being shocked at the coverage and knowing a fade route wasn’t going to work had something to do with it. Or he just half assed the last play of the game and a chance to play in the national title game. 

[runthebone 7959]

36 minutes ago, Lerka Lerka said:

This thread is reading like the offseason. 

It is the offseason.  Season's over.  We're fucked.

[Fondren & Main 6687]