QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[BabaYaga 15290]

3 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

We got ourselves a source-off

My mama and your mama was talking little shit
My mama called your mama a bulldagging ass bitch
I know your sister, and the bitch ain't shit
She slayed me and all the boys
And even sucked our dicks

[jimmyjazz 45898]

9 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

This is troubling.

Maybe his source is Sark's divorce attorney.  Sometimes you have to make that call, even during a game.

[Jkwellborn 6697]

i talked to someone yesterday who i trust who basically said that Sark is obviously aware of how much QE has regressed, but that Sark is really really big on thinking long term, so its as simple as this:
benching quinn ewers at any point this season would totally poison the well barring a national title run, and even then certain bridges would be burned.
first of all, Sark and the manning family have been working on a plan for Arch for years, and that plan has never involved Arch being the starter as a redshirt freshman. so not only would you be effectively ending QE’s college career (at Texas at least) which would not go over well with the locker room, you’d also be screwing up your future plans for Arch, and burning bridges on that front as well. and of course then if Arch doesn’t perform or gets hurt, now you’re really fucked, not just for this season, but in your locker room, in the transfer portal, and going forward as well.
so, Sark is going to stick with Quinn, go as far as he can go with him, hope to make a deep playoff run (they obviously still believe they can win the whole thing, the view from inside that locker room is obviously wildly more optimistic than the one from our keyboards and couches), and let the chips fall where they may for the 2024 season. after that, we kill it in the portal again, Arch takes over as a really mature and developed redshirt sophomore, and Texas Football remains in a place to be crushing it yearly with recruits and competing for titles on a regular basis. it all makes sense, and it’s an example of why Sark is the HC at UT, and we are a bunch of keyboard warriors.

I get that, but Arch would benefit from being the starter this entire season as opposed to becoming the starter next year, while breaking in 3 new OL starters, a new TE, and 2 new WR. Not to mention the defensive loses.

[Thatguy 8685]

13 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

This is troubling.

We were at a high school game buddy. Lol.

[52-80 19150]

[Longhornlove 4813]

16 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

This is troubling.

Not if you know the source.....allegedly.

[GTNY 284]

Has anyone seen good film breakdown of why Jaxson Dart was able to put up 515 yards and 6 TDs on Arkansas a week prior to our game but we couldn't? What were they doing differently than us to put up 63 points? Figure some 9.95er has done a breakdown

[Thatguy 8685]

8 minutes ago, GTNY said:

Has anyone seen good film breakdown of why Jaxson Dart was able to put up 515 yards and 6 TDs on Arkansas a week prior to our game but we couldn't? What were they doing differently than us to put up 63 points? Figure some 9.95er has done a breakdown

4 and 5 wide prevents you from disguising much. Plus how many teams go that deep on good DBs? Arkansas not having legit pass rushers doesn't help either. We were out there in 12 personnel playing right into their hands.

[tbone_ 14115]

I agree with you guys. Ehlinger should starts.

[Dahobbs 17533]

3 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

4 and 5 wide prevents you from disguising much. Plus how many teams go that deep on good DBs? Arkansas not having legit pass rushers doesn't help either. We were out there in 12 personnel playing right into their hands.

12 personnel would have worked fine if our TEs could run block consistently. Arkansas ignored that threat and our TEs didn't execute blocks. And then Quinn didn't hit the plays that were there. 

35 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

First thing this is some made up BS.

I have a source that is extremely plugged in. I sit down and talk to this source IN PERSON a couple times a week and he shares stuff he cannot talk about on air with me. In fact, we were sitting at a game together when Sark called and he had to duck out and take it. People in here that know me in person and know where I live will know who it is I am talking about. I have promised to not ever share what I know is going on behind the scenes in detail so I will just sum it up like this.

It's not that complicated. Arch is good but is behind Quinn on diagnosing the field and that's why he isn't starting. He is impatient, wants to take the big shot, and regularly misses the easy underneath throw for the guy in double coverage. Both these guys have holes in their game and Sark went with the guy he thought he had the best chance to win with. Sark is very good at talent evaluation and that's why we don't see wild misses with him. Everyone under Sark who wasn't starting showed exactly why they weren't starting when they got some playing time. And that's the full answer. Not wild conspiracy theories.

Whether your source is legit or not, the bolded is clearly true from the games he has played in so far. 

Ultimately, for me, it comes down to this: we would be golden if either Quinn were to get his head (and feet) right or if Arch were to come in and start taking and executing the play that is there rather than just wait for the big shot. Who you play depends on which one you think is more likely to happen this season. We've already seen good Quinn before his injury (footwork as a lot better), so going with the former makes some amount of sense. 

[dcar00 14181]

26 minutes ago, GTNY said:

Has anyone seen good film breakdown of why Jaxson Dart was able to put up 515 yards and 6 TDs on Arkansas a week prior to our game but we couldn't? What were they doing differently than us to put up 63 points? Figure some 9.95er has done a breakdown

Pittman was preparing for Texas.  He beats Texas he saves his job.  No one gives a shit what happens against Ole Miss.

[GTX Horn 1708]

2 hours ago, Derka said:

i talked to someone yesterday who i trust who basically said that Sark is obviously aware of how much QE has regressed, but that Sark is really really big on thinking long term, so its as simple as this:

benching quinn ewers at any point this season would totally poison the well barring a national title run, and even then certain bridges would be burned.

first of all, Sark and the manning family have been working on a plan for Arch for years, and that plan has never involved Arch being the starter as a redshirt freshman. so not only would you be effectively ending QE’s college career (at Texas at least) which would not go over well with the locker room, you’d also be screwing up your future plans for Arch, and burning bridges on that front as well. and of course then if Arch doesn’t perform or gets hurt, now you’re really fucked, not just for this season, but in your locker room, in the transfer portal, and going forward as well.

so, Sark is going to stick with Quinn, go as far as he can go with him, hope to make a deep playoff run (they obviously still believe they can win the whole thing, the view from inside that locker room is obviously wildly more optimistic than the one from our keyboards and couches), and let the chips fall where they may for the 2024 season. after that, we kill it in the portal again, Arch takes over as a really mature and developed redshirt sophomore, and Texas Football remains in a place to be crushing it yearly with recruits and competing for titles on a regular basis. it all makes sense, and it’s an example of why Sark is the HC at UT, and we are a bunch of keyboard warriors.

So then why throw Arch out there against Georgia? Sark can say he did that just to settle down Quinn as much as he wants, but at the end of the day he had to realize that if Arch goes in there, lights it up, and leads us to a win, there’s no turning back. It’d have been Arch’s team plain and simple. You don’t make that move if you’re dead set on rolling with Ewers the rest of the season 100% like you say.

[LTtxfan 49167]

47 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

6 rounds with that??? 

whoa 😎

[Codaxx 5731]

12 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

12 personnel would have worked fine if our TEs could run block consistently. Arkansas ignored that threat and our TEs didn't execute blocks. And then Quinn didn't hit the plays that were there. 

Whether your source is legit or not, the bolded is clearly true from the games he has played in so far. 

Ultimately, for me, it comes down to this: we would be golden if either Quinn were to get his head (and feet) right or if Arch were to come in and start taking and executing the play that is there rather than just wait for the big shot. Who you play depends on which one you think is more likely to happen this season. We've already seen good Quinn before his injury (footwork as a lot better), so going with the former makes some amount of sense. 

I am not sure how impatient Arch is. I totally understand the thought process. I didnt see that vs MSU. I actually saw decent improvement from ULM. He did do the bomds away thing vs Florida, but I am not sure if that is more about "i have 3-4 opportunities, so screw it" or if it is reflective of his normal game

[Drew 2405]

25 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

12 personnel would have worked fine if our TEs could run block consistently. Arkansas ignored that threat and our TEs didn't execute blocks. And then Quinn didn't hit the plays that were there. 

Whether your source is legit or not, the bolded is clearly true from the games he has played in so far. 

Ultimately, for me, it comes down to this: we would be golden if either Quinn were to get his head (and feet) right or if Arch were to come in and start taking and executing the play that is there rather than just wait for the big shot. Who you play depends on which one you think is more likely to happen this season. We've already seen good Quinn before his injury (footwork as a lot better), so going with the former makes some amount of sense. 

Absolutely agree, which is why I was in favor of giving Quinn as much rope as we possibly could. Even in the games Arch started you could tell he would hit a wall...force throws, especially deep, that he shouldn't.  He can make those throws, but you can't survive an entire games against good teams do that.

It wasn't until Quinn was benched at Georgia that I thought they'd stick with him...once they didn't, I knew Sark was going to stick with Quinn till the wheels fall off.

He obviously doesn't think he's ready to take the reins fully.

Edited 11 hours ago by Drew

[I Plead Da Fif 271]

2 hours ago, Had Enough said:

Here’s where I get confused.  It seems we have different definitions of talent.  I generally think “physical” traits as others use the term talent.  Yes, Ewers has a stronger, more lively arm than Sam.  Hell, he may even be faster than Sam.  In college, you just need QBs to make plays however they come.  Interestingly enough, Ewers has a livelier, stronger arm than Vince Young.  Anyone here going to call him more talented?  Sam has more attributes closer to Young than Ewers does to Young.

Traditional passing stats are good, but they’re very limited relative to what you have today.  If you wish to compare completion percentage, that’s fairly useless.  For example Ewers has thrown 32% and 27% of his passes behind the LOS the past two years.  Sam never threw more than 20% (be mindful Sark is more a screen guy than Herman).  In their careers those completion %s in that range are from 91-95%.  Quick math on the 32% gives you around 10% higher completion percentage in total before you even get to the other depths.

Even if we talk win percentage, is it not equal or higher in non-Quinn starts  than Quinn starts the past 3 years?

All of the discussion requires context.  The simple answer based on numbers is simply that.  The simple answer.

 

I agree all conversations around this require context. We’re not comparing apples to apples here, but the best we can do is compare empirical evidence, because everything else is objective. You could argue we’d be better off this year with 2019 Roschon Johnson at RB instead of one of Jaydon Blue or Quintrevion Wisner. Team is missing a reliable between the tackles runner.

To be honest I don’t really care about depth of targets for comparing this. That data will be included and factored into a QBR rating, and if you look at QBR, you see fluctuations in both. From a purely statistical analysis standpoint, QE hasn’t been kept out of the end zone passing at all the past 2 years. He’s had 2 games where he threw 2 or more INTs. You could argue QE’s turnovers cost us UGA this year and OU last year and that’s it.

From a talent standpoint, I think of potential. Potential is what it is, based off of flashes of brilliance that make us think that player could make plays at that level more consistently, of which QE has yet to accomplish. But he has shown flashes of absolute brilliance, where if he was no worse than 90% of who he was at Michigan all year, he’d be in the Heisman conversation all year and we’d not be spending this time hand wringing and debating. To me this is why QE will still get drafted this year if he goes, just not as high as he would like, but probably higher than we would think.

 

[LTtxfan 49167]

27 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

4 and 5 wide prevents you from disguising much. Plus how many teams go that deep on good DBs? Arkansas not having legit pass rushers doesn't help either. We were out there in 12 personnel playing right into their hands.

Yeah, Sark not adjusting better to that shit arky threw out there on defense really sucked.  Guess having DeAndre getting injured early in that game was part of the problem.  

 

[WinningIsHard 4029]

6 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I am not sure how impatient Arch is. I totally understand the thought process. I didnt see that vs MSU. I actually saw decent improvement from ULM. He did do the bomds away thing vs Florida, but I am not sure if that is more about "i have 3-4 opportunities, so screw it" or if it is reflective of his normal game

It's been enjoyable to see your progression through this thread lol. You started middle of the road and now you're pretty squarely on the arch train. I think first quarter of kentucky if Quinn self sacks even once or panics then throws a 8 yard loss on a screen pass he should clearly throw away then Sark should trot arch out and never look back. 

[MrBig 5395]

8 minutes ago, GTX Horn said:

So then why throw Arch out there against Georgia? Sark can say he did that just to settle down Quinn as much as he wants, but at the end of the day he had to realize that if Arch goes in there, lights it up, and leads us to a win, there’s no turning back. It’d have been Arch’s team plain and simple. You don’t make that move if you’re dead set on rolling with Ewers the rest of the season 100% like you say.

Throwing Arch in the Georgia game was a minimal risk move by Sark. It shuts up the people saying to put Arch in. If Arch lights it up against Georgia, it’s Manning time at Texas. If Arch stinks it up, Sark covers his ass by saying it wasn’t just Quinn. Sark would have gotten way more shit if he didn’t put Arch in the game because it was that bad. 

[Dahobbs 17533]

12 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I am not sure how impatient Arch is. I totally understand the thought process. I didnt see that vs MSU. I actually saw decent improvement from ULM. He did do the bomds away thing vs Florida, but I am not sure if that is more about "i have 3-4 opportunities, so screw it" or if it is reflective of his normal game

I agree he played better against MSU. The fumbles killed us there. But he still wasn't executing the short game very well (e.g., see the 4th down play). 

[Codaxx 5731]

1 minute ago, WinningIsHard said:

It's been enjoyable to see your progression through this thread lol. You started middle of the road and now you're pretty squarely on the arch train. I think first quarter of kentucky if Quinn self sacks even once or panics then throws a 8 yard loss on a screen pass he should clearly throw away then Sark should trot arch out and never look back. 

Earlier in this thread I said the first half of Vanderbilt may be the most important half of football for Quinn's career. I am not quiet there for the Kentucky game, but I am close. If Quinn looks like he did in the first half of the Arkansas game, I do not know how you keep sending him out there. 

[Had Enough 2081]

6 minutes ago, I Plead Da Fif said:

I agree all conversations around this require context. We’re not comparing apples to apples here, but the best we can do is compare empirical evidence, because everything else is objective. You could argue we’d be better off this year with 2019 Roschon Johnson at RB instead of one of Jaydon Blue or Quintrevion Wisner. Team is missing a reliable between the tackles runner.

To be honest I don’t really care about depth of targets for comparing this. That data will be included and factored into a QBR rating, and if you look at QBR, you see fluctuations in both. From a purely statistical analysis standpoint, QE hasn’t been kept out of the end zone passing at all the past 2 years. He’s had 2 games where he threw 2 or more INTs. You could argue QE’s turnovers cost us UGA this year and OU last year and that’s it.

From a talent standpoint, I think of potential. Potential is what it is, based off of flashes of brilliance that make us think that player could make plays at that level more consistently, of which QE has yet to accomplish. But he has shown flashes of absolute brilliance, where if he was no worse than 90% of who he was at Michigan all year, he’d be in the Heisman conversation all year and we’d not be spending this time hand wringing and debating. To me this is why QE will still get drafted this year if he goes, just not as high as he would like, but probably higher than we would think.

 

Who is more talented - Vince or Ewers?

I have no doubts Ewers will get drafted.  He might even be great.  Hell I think we’re winning it all this year.

 

 

[Longhornlove 4813]

11 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Earlier in this thread I said the first half of Vanderbilt may be the most important half of football for Quinn's career. I am not quiet there for the Kentucky game, but I am close. If Quinn looks like he did in the first half of the Arkansas game, I do not know how you keep sending him out there. 

Jeez, it wasn't that bad. We would have scored two more touchdowns if officials hadn't missed a blatant facemask and PI against us. Not to mention that Gunner might still be running if he had caught that perfect pass he dropped.

Edited 11 hours ago by Longhornlove

[CurlyDumps 4471]

 

11 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Yeah, Sark not adjusting better to that shit arky threw out there on defense really sucked.  Guess having DeAndre getting injured early in that game was part of the problem.  

 

Was it partly Sark's fault?  Fans have been griping that we should have been up 21-0 instead of 10-0. Weren't there plays to be made that just got biffed?

[Thatguy 8685]

17 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Yeah, Sark not adjusting better to that shit arky threw out there on defense really sucked.  Guess having DeAndre getting injured early in that game was part of the problem.  

 

Sark is very stubborn with his gameplan. He has a QB that is perfect for a 4 wide, get the ball out quick kind of offense but he has to be a couple TDs down before he opens things up. That's his kryptonite. Change. That said, his refusal to run gimmicky offenses IS the reason so many good QB recruits like him. So you take the good with the bad I guess.

 

Just now, CurlyDumps said:

 

Was it partly Sark's fault?  Fans have been griping that we should have been up 21-0 instead of 10-0. Weren't there plays to be made that just got biffed?

There most def were plays that were biffed. But sometimes we make offense hard is all. Spread concepts negate the 3 high look and forces obvious 1v1s.

[Dahobbs 17533]

18 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Earlier in this thread I said the first half of Vanderbilt may be the most important half of football for Quinn's career. I am not quiet there for the Kentucky game, but I am close. If Quinn looks like he did in the first half of the Arkansas game, I do not know how you keep sending him out there. 

I don't necessarily disagree with the proviso that Kentucky is a much better defense. If he is self sacking, refusing to throw the ball to open receivers, missing badly on deep shots, and generally looking hesitant, yes. But if we have a repeat performance in the sense that we are up 10-0 at half and he has executed what was there for the taking, I will not be unhappy. I'd prefer better obviously, but that depends upon more than just Quinn. 

[Codaxx 5731]

9 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I don't necessarily disagree with the proviso that Kentucky is a much better defense. If he is self sacking, refusing to throw the ball to open receivers, missing badly on deep shots, and generally looking hesitant, yes. But if we have a repeat performance in the sense that we are up 10-0 at half and he has executed what was there for the taking, I will not be unhappy. I'd prefer better obviously, but that depends upon more than just Quinn. 

at some point the eye in the sky (the tape) has to be the barometer. I know Quinn is capable of much better play, but at some pt hope wears out to reality

Edited 10 hours ago by Codaxx

[D3zii 3678]

The Insider: Sources tell Horns247 Texas QB Quinn Ewers expected to enter 2025 NFL Draft

 

If thats the case he better get his head out of his ass and make some shit shake

[Jkwellborn 6697]

There most def were plays that were biffed. But sometimes we make offense hard is all. Spread concepts negate the 3 high look and forces obvious 1v1s.

This is what aggravates me. If the TE aren’t blocking well, stopping sending two of them out there. Go ahead and spread out the field. You have the tools, you have the talent. This bitch is toast.

Not sure why it didn’t quote the whole post of yours. I was talking about the first part.

[jimmyjazz 45898]

1 minute ago, Jkwellborn said:

This is what aggravates me. If the TE aren’t blocking well, stopping sending two of them out there. 

Well, Sark likes Helm's blocking.  This week he literally said having him step up his game made last year's 6-OL package unnecessary.

[DanTheHorn 4922]

1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

Yeah, Sark not adjusting better to that shit arky threw out there on defense really sucked.  Guess having DeAndre getting injured early in that game was part of the problem.  

 

Sark's problem has always been that he is not good on the fly. He has to sit down go over things and come up with a way to solve it and he does. Every off season has shown us he knows how to fix things once he has time. He has gotten better on adjustments but without someone that is good at making adjustments at his side like Saban and Carrol that can give tell him he is being out coached and needs to adjust quickly he flounders and sticks to the original plan to long until he realizes it is time to adjust.

[Hank Kingsley 20916]

2 hours ago, Thatguy said:

He is impatient, wants to take the big shot, and regularly misses the easy underneath throw for the guy in double coverage.

This was true in his first start vs. ULM. It is decidedly untrue when you look at his second start vs. Mississippi State. 

He learned from his mistakes from the ULM. He absorbed Sark's criticisms and performed MUCH better the next week. It's a big reason why I'm so excited about next year. I am going to post the damn video again, as clearly people forgot or dismiss Arch's performance. Outside of the one throw into the flat that was off the mark (great catch and run by Wingo), this is the best QB game film we've had this year, maybe outside of the Michigan game (where Quinn was excellent but still fairly conservative). This was an ugly game but it absolutely had nothing to do with Arch. He was great. 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Hank Kingsley

[DanTheHorn 4922]

46 minutes ago, D3zii said:

The Insider: Sources tell Horns247 Texas QB Quinn Ewers expected to enter 2025 NFL Draft

 

If thats the case he better get his head out of his ass and make some shit shake

It is not official until Thamel says it.

[closetohumping 17438]

4 hours ago, I Plead Da Fif said:

I feel like we’re having some revisionist history on Sam. I loved Sam. He was a great leader and a great Longhorn that bled burnt orange. His battering ram nature had the offense playing at a higher level than without it with a swagger we needed.
 

That said, comparing Sam’s and Quinn’s 2nd and 3rd year stats does not convey Sam was a more consistent passer. Quinn has greatly benefitted from having a better roster around him resulting in more wins on his down games than Sam, but I feel pretty strongly the stats don’t say Sam was a more consistent passer.

Sam 2nd and 3rd year

Quinn’s 2nd and 3rd Year

 

I think what is more frustrating to folks is we know Quinn has more talent, he just doesn’t consistently put it all together. 

Sam had some disastrous unforced errors that cost us a few games

[Scuba Saba 27]

We are congruent on QE being a fine young man and a credit to UT. 

[South Austin 52463]

3 minutes ago, Scuba Saba said:

We are congruent on QE being a fine young man and a credit to UT. 

What did you call me?

[Hookem10 737]

3 hours ago, GTNY said:

Has anyone seen good film breakdown of why Jaxson Dart was able to put up 515 yards and 6 TDs on Arkansas a week prior to our game but we couldn't? What were they doing differently than us to put up 63 points? Figure some 9.95er has done a breakdown

Problem is ncaa is trending nfl at this point with parity. Each game is its own monster. Just win by 1 or 100. Just win. As fans plus the media we think college football and where is the dominant team that shreds everyone they play. We don’t have one this year including us, so all top teams have bad games or close games that get everyone bitching. We kill Florida who beats lsu but then look average at Arkansas who beat Tennessee who beat Alabama. Treat each game as its own animal and win it and move on is the way. So it won’t always be pretty. We’re gonna beat Kentucky who beat ole miss, so what’s wrong with ole miss. And the beat goes on. 

[Atticus 3973]

3 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Sark is very stubborn with his gameplan. He has a QB that is perfect for a 4 wide, get the ball out quick kind of offense but he has to be a couple TDs down before he opens things up. That's his kryptonite. Change. That said, his refusal to run gimmicky offenses IS the reason so many good QB recruits like him. So you take the good with the bad I guess

Quinn has struggled from empty sets while at Texas and our backs don’t pass pro very well. 

[GTJ1982 379]

So the oline sucks, the RBs suck, Worthy and AD were never good and now Sark is a poor game planner and stubborn?  But trust Sark when it comes to keeping Quinn in games no matter how bad he plays?

Quinn is responsible for all our wins but has no responsibility for his own level of play or raising the level of play of the team he is the leader of?

I'm all for Quinn remaining the starter but all players deserve criticism/critique from the punter to the QB and no spot should be guaranteed.

[Hank_Hill 18802]

 

8 minutes ago, GTJ1982 said:

So the oline sucks, the RBs suck, Worthy and AD were never good and now Sark is a poor game planner and stubborn?  But trust Sark when it comes to keeping Quinn in games no matter how bad he plays?

Quinn is responsible for all our wins but has no responsibility for his own level of play or raising the level of play of the team he is the leader of?

I'm all for Quinn remaining the starter but all players deserve criticism/critique from the punter to the QB and no spot should be guaranteed.

You’re aggregating individual (highly contested) points into a single statement that nobody has made.

Edited 7 hours ago by Hank_Hill

[Zeus 6018]

3 hours ago, D3zii said:

The Insider: Sources tell Horns247 Texas QB Quinn Ewers expected to enter 2025 NFL Draft

 

If thats the case he better get his head out of his ass and make some shit shake

Or maybe just get drafted in second or third round to a good team with a good coach. 
 

I’d imagine him learning for two years and being a solid pro at the next level if he’s in the right situation. 
 

nobody really knows what’s up with Quinn he could be playing more hurt than any of us realize

[LTtxfan 49167]

3 hours ago, D3zii said:

If thats the case he better get his head out of his ass and make some shit shake

Damn I must be hungry... I read above line

"If thats the case he better get his head out of his ass and make some shiitake"  😎

 

 

[Zeus 6018]

2 hours ago, closetohumping said:

Sam had some disastrous unforced errors that cost us a few games

Winning is hard

 when you have a turtle HC

[Hornius Emeritus 12457]

5 hours ago, BabaYaga said:

Well that's not any fucking fun!

No shit.

I heard that Arch and all the Mannings are members of the Illuminati.  Arch got exposed to Chemtrails that resulted from the Pentagon's attack on the WTC. He also took the Covid jab, and we know what that means.  The Mannings, of course, cooked up the whole "we landed on the moon" hoax, and killed Paul McCartney. Mind you, this all started after Roswell, when Archie Manning's brother invented 5G.  Now Arch has long Covid from the jab, even though he's never had Covid.  One of the symptoms of long Covid is believing that birds are real. In short, Arch is living in a world that doesn't exist. You want a guy like that leading your team? I don't.

[Dahobbs 17533]

2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

This was true in his first start vs. ULM. It is decidedly untrue when you look at his second start vs. Mississippi State. 

He learned from his mistakes from the ULM. He absorbed Sark's criticisms and performed MUCH better the next week. It's a big reason why I'm so excited about next year. I am going to post the damn video again, as clearly people forgot or dismiss Arch's performance. Outside of the one throw into the flat that was off the mark (great catch and run by Wingo), this is the best QB game film we've had this year, maybe outside of the Michigan game (where Quinn was excellent but still fairly conservative). This was an ugly game but it absolutely had nothing to do with Arch. He was great. 

 

He definitely played better. But I'd be cautious about making too many conclusion from MSU. It is the worst defense we have played by a good margin. It is currently ranked 127 in total d. Arkansas at least had some dudes upfront. MSU has nothing on D. 

[Thatguy 8685]

16 minutes ago, GTJ1982 said:

So the oline sucks, the RBs suck, Worthy and AD were never good and now Sark is a poor game planner and stubborn?  But trust Sark when it comes to keeping Quinn in games no matter how bad he plays?

Quinn is responsible for all our wins but has no responsibility for his own level of play or raising the level of play of the team he is the leader of?

I'm all for Quinn remaining the starter but all players deserve criticism/critique from the punter to the QB and no spot should be guaranteed.

No one said Worthy and AD were never good. However, if you are watching the NFL the same issues they had here they are having there.

 

7 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

No shit.

I heard that Arch and all the Mannings are members of the Illuminati.  Arch got exposed to Chemtrails that resulted from the Pentagon's attack on the WTC. He also took the Covid jab, and we know what that means.  The Mannings, of course, cooked up the whole "we landed on the moon" hoax, and killed Paul McCartney. Mind you, this all started after Roswell, when Archie Manning's brother invented 5G.  Now Arch has long Covid from the jab, even though he's never had Covid.  One of the symptoms of long Covid is believing that birds are real. In short, Arch is living in a world that doesn't exist. You want a guy like that leading your team? I don't.

This might be the best post on those whole thread. I spit out my drink. Pos rep!!

[Thatguy 8685]

3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

He definitely played better. But I'd be cautious about making too many conclusion from MSU. It is the worst defense we have played by a good margin. It is currently ranked 127 in total d. Arkansas at least had some dudes upfront. MSU has nothing on D. 

MSU looked like us last year and the year before where we struggled getting to the QB no matter what we did. Penix is still throwing footballs in the Sugar Bowl. If only we had this year's pass rush.

[Hornius Emeritus 12457]

6 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

This might be the best post on those whole thread. I spit out my drink. Pos rep!!

It's science. Anybody who does their own research will come to the same conclusions.

[Derka 6175]

7 hours ago, Derka said:

after that, we kill it in the portal again, Arch takes over as a really mature and developed redshirt sophomore,

on this note, with Arch taking over next year and with the success our WRs have had under Sark, including transfers like Golden, our WR transfer class should be sick.

[Hank Kingsley 20916]

10 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

He definitely played better. But I'd be cautious about making too many conclusion from MSU. It is the worst defense we have played by a good margin. It is currently ranked 127 in total d. Arkansas at least had some dudes upfront. MSU has nothing on D. 

Counterpoint: Arch Manning is really, really good. He learned from mistakes and improved significantly between his 1st and 2nd starts. Which means he's absorbing the instruction from his coaches, worked to get better, and showed it on the field.

Spoiler alert: Arch will be a better QB from Game 1 next year than Quinn has ever been at Texas.