QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[AeroHorn 753]

3 minutes ago, B00M said:

I mean, OU and Venables being able to scheme and play elite defense is who they were supposed to be this year. Most teams can’t do that. Milroe tore up Georgia (for a half at least) and LSU. 

Yes, Milroe is a good QB in a team full of 5 stars, and Ewers is a better QB in a team that is also very good. Do not disparage what is working for what could be. There are more variables to leading an offense than the few that we see and discuss.

[Thatguy 8761]

15 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

That’s all fine and correct except for the fact that Ewers is incredibly easy to scheme against as well. So that’s really not a great point of differentiation. 

We are 10-1 in the SEC but Quinn Ewers is incredibly easy to scheme against? Number 15 scoring offense? Number 17 passing offense despite the fact that we aren't even a spread team. Number 18 total offense? Everyone is choosing o take him away instead of loading up on the run but easy to scheme against. Lol

[nbmishoid 962]

1 hour ago, dcar00 said:

agreed. I think QE is "late" on throws a fair bit and this is causing some of these strips.  I think he is late on deep balls also.  he has the arm but he seems to want to put too much air under them and have the receiver catch the ball in the end zone/way down field vs. hitting him sooner with a lower trajectory.  but I admit it is hard to know because we don't know the nuances of what Sark is looking for on a play.

It is nitpicking.  assuming he wins the games the backups won over the last 3 years he is 30-8. won a big 12 championship, made the playoffs now 2 years in a row.  He's doing something right.  He has had a 2-3 bad halves this year but other than that has been basically money.

Sark get paid the big money to make sure Manning is ready when needed and to make the call.

He is not Jaxon Dart, thank god.

[HtownHorn 14754]

29 minutes ago, AeroHorn said:

All the people clamoring for Arch are failing to understand that QB play is more than just deep balls and running around in the backfield. KY's FR QB did that and has earned Derka's full praise. It would be quite sad (God forbid) if Arch turns out to be not much more than white Milroe. Couple of games of KY QB/Milroe are enough for DCs to scheme against them. See yesterday's Milroe game as an example.

This post falls apart because we have seen Arch be QB1 for 2-1/2 games. His improvement was night and day between Monroe and Mississppi State. Arch lead Texas to 35 points against the only SEC defense he played, Ewers has done that once against the other 6 SEC defenses he has played.

The only reason the switch hasn't been made is likely the Manning family wants nothing to do with the controversy of replacing an entrenched starter on this team. I think the Manning and Arch himself would prefer to be QB1 throughout an entire off-season headning into the season.

I also think, if this was another Hudson Card/Casey Thompson situation the switch would have already been made.

[mwaadeeb 1233]

1 minute ago, HtownHorn said:

The only reason the switch hasn't been made is likely the Manning family wants nothing to do with the controversy of replacing an entrenched starter on this team.

lol

[B00M 6430]

19 minutes ago, AeroHorn said:

Yes, Milroe is a good QB in a team full of 5 stars, and Ewers is a better QB in a team that is also very good. Do not disparage what is working for what could be. There are more variables to leading an offense than the few that we see and discuss.

Guess that’s it boys, wrap it up. 

12 minutes ago, nbmishoid said:

He is not Jaxon Dart, thank god.

My lord he completely crumbled under pressure 

[rage-a-holic 4411]

26 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

welp, sounds like a clean bill of health for Coach "Just Rub Some Dirt In It" Sark

[Rockethorn1978 6101]

2 minutes ago, rage-a-holic said:

welp, sounds like a clean bill of health for Coach "Just Rub Some Dirt In It" Sark

Yea we will see Saturday. Looked like a lot more than a mild sprain. He could barely move. 

[Magus Ossis 2815]

If Anwar's source is connected to Sark, I'd be shocked not to see QE play. They used the code word "sprain" instead of "tear."

[Horn of Gabriel 1648]

LOL at the "grand Manning family conspiracy" and the "Sark is protecting QE's draft stock!" theories of Arch not replacing QE.  Occam's razor and ask yourself which is more likely:

• The Manning family calls Sark every week to discuss Arch and QE and whether Arch should play or start
• Sark goes to the Mannings for permission to play Arch, at a time/place of their choosing
• Sark made a side-agreement/promise to QE to keep him as the starter no-matter-what as the price paid for him to xfer to Texas or something

Or...maybe, just maybe:

• In the recruiting process, the Mannings looked at Sark's history of QB development and said "he's good."
• They discussed a plan for Arch to redshirt, with the understanding that in football, shit happens and we trust you to manage that shit Sark
• Sark consciously chooses to play QE over Arch because he believes QE, even as limited as he has been, gives Texas the best chance to win

If you believe the first scenario, I don't know what to tell you because you probably believe the moon landing was fake.  Sark is paid millions to win games at Texas, I have a hard time seeing how he would make a decision that works against his and the team's self-interest.

[MissingInAction 25125]

My best guess is that sark is working him through injury.

Training.

Any of us who have served know what that's all about.

[Rex Kramer 1343]

2 hours ago, mwaadeeb said:

I always laugh at "the deal" people think the Mannings negotiated with Sark about Arch's timeline. That's some silly shit.

No kidding. I also laugh that it’s the Mannings plural, as if Archie, Peyton and Eli are involved in the operations of some kind of super product that Cooper by himself isn’t equipped to deal with alone. People are fucking stupid. 

[B00M 6430]

My thing is, we need Arch ready. The 2nd half yesterday was a perfect opportunity for that. History would suggest there’s nearly a 50% chance Arch will need to play significant snaps in some of our remaining games if Texas is going to win a championship. Why risk further injury to Quinn’s ankle (or ego) yesterday when there’s obvious benefit to more Arch reps and essentially no downside. 

[immamac 42876]

8 minutes ago, B00M said:

My thing is, we need Arch ready. The 2nd half yesterday was a perfect opportunity for that. History would suggest there’s nearly a 50% chance Arch will need to play significant snaps in some of our remaining games if Texas is going to win a championship. Why risk further injury to Quinn’s ankle (or ego) yesterday when there’s obvious benefit to more Arch reps and essentially no downside. 

There really isn't an argument against this that is reasonable. 

I was thinking maybe sark didn't want any manning film out there to study. 

[Thatguy 8761]

1 minute ago, HtownHorn said:

This post falls apart because we have seen Arch be QB1 for 2-1/2 games. His improvement was night and day between Monroe and Mississppi State. Arch lead Texas to 35 points against the only SEC defense he played, Ewers has done that once against the other 6 SEC defenses he has played.

The only reason the switch hasn't been made is likely the Manning family wants nothing to do with the controversy of replacing an entrenched starter on this team. I think the Manning and Arch himself would prefer to be QB1 throughout an entire off-season headning into the season.

I also think, if this was another Hudson Card/Casey Thompson situation the switch would have already been made.

This post is all conspiracy theories and tin hats. Ewers is currently better at everything except running and throwing the deep ball and that's why he is playing over Arch. We all looked at Arch like man he really improved vs MSU and then we turned around and nit-picked every throw when Ewers went for 333 and 5TDs in just over a half vs Florida.

[Derka 6287]

15 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

People are fucking stupid. 

yes, the people who are taking the Manning family’s involvement in Arch’s recruitment process/plan for his time at Texas and making it out to be “some grand conspiracy” or anything other than standard operating procedure are fucking stupid. 

also, nobody but you has mentioned peyton and eli being involved in any of this, but don’t let that stop you from tilting at windmills.

Edited 8 hours ago by Derka

[52-80 19205]

My position is simply that in 2010, in the national championship ship game, Mack Brown pulled Garrett Gilbert basically out of the freezer. 

Arch Manning hasn’t had a real possession since September where he was asked to do anything except hand the ball off. And it would be nice to keep the motor warmed up in case you need to drive that car. 

[Rockethorn1978 6101]

Let’s just say it’s a mild sprain and wasn’t anything “major”. A mild sprain has a greater chance of turning into something major staying on the field. What if a Kentucky DL rolled up into him? So many things could have happened if you believe he’s the man to win it all for us. Very odd to have the HC leave out your best qb in a situation like that with aggy and possibly the SECCG looming and the CFP. You didn’t need him on the field to finish off Kentucky. So I’d love to hear a real reason. “It was senior night and it wasn’t that bad” is a really dumb reason to risk the rest of your season over. 

[Tex Long 4410]

12 minutes ago, B00M said:

My thing is, we need Arch ready. ...

This is a fact. 

 

2 minutes ago, immamac said:

I was thinking maybe sark didn't want any manning film out there to study. 

Plus one. 

That and Quinn's trip to the tent and halftime exams said no additional damage would be done if he kept playing. 

[Tex Long 4410]

7 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

My position is simply that in 2010, in the national championship ship game, Mack Brown pulled Garrett Gilbert basically out of the freezer. 

Hate to even think about that game. I thought the fact that we had to burn a timeout after the injury timeout for Colt so that Squints could find his helmet (or borrow one that fit) ... was a Bad Sign.

[gmr548 16589]

1 minute ago, Tex Long said:

Quinn's trip to the tent and halftime exams said no additional damage would be done if he kept playing. 

Unless, you know, he gets the ever-loving fuck knocked out of him on a missed block or something because because he has the mobility of a drunken, overweight 50 year old in the stands and, say, breaks some ribs.

There was just no upside to leaving him in and it was coaching malpractice.

[Tex Long 4410]

Just now, gmr548 said:

Unless, you know, he gets the ever-loving fuck knocked out of him on a missed block or something because because he has the mobility of a drunken, overweight 50 year old in the stands and, say, breaks some ribs.

There was just no upside to leaving him in and it was coaching malpractice.

I agree. I just feel like that was Sark's thinking at the time. I don't condone it. I did scream WHAT THE FUCK??? when Quinn came back out on the field. I'm done screaming, but I'm still ummmm puzzled - to say the least.

[Irish Wrist Watch 1393]

Takeaways from last 12 hrs of comments:

1. Ewers is better at handoffs and screen passes than Manning. Uh huh.

2. Arch's family will be upset if he comes in and takes UT to a win over Aggy in long-awaited reunion. When he goes on to win the SEC and his First National Championship, they'll be so pissed that they'll pull him out of Austin and send him to Ohio State. (He'll need to resign his elections as Mayor of Austin/Governor of Texas).

3. Quinn's receivers simply haven't learned to come back for underthrown passes and knock aside defenders hanging all over them.

4. Quinn's ankle will be fine - until he tries to cut on it, or God forbid, scramble with the ball. Then he's done. Which means that Sark will limit his gameplan to accomodate Quinn, which means the sidearmer will be stuck in the pocket against a defense that will blitz on every play. Which means there'll be no RPOs and perhaps three or four fewer first downs and two or three more punts in the first half alone. Which means that the game will be that much closer or we'll be that much worse off by the time Sark finally puts in Manning, either because of Quinn's injury or performance. Which means Arch will be under even more pressure and very possibly in catch-up mode when he comes in. 

The aggies will come into this game planning to stuff the run game and daring the sidearmer Quinn, who will be under enormous pressure, to throw the ball. I'm not looking forward to watching this play out. 

It absolutely doesn't have to happen this way. Start Manning. Run the ball, including RPOs, use the RPOs to throw deep, intermediate and short passes, use Manning's ability to run play-action, drop deep and throw accurate bombs, and resume kicking ass, just like we did when Arch quarterbacked earlier in the year. 

Quinn will be a millionaire, if he isn't already. I appreciate what he's done so far, but he's injured, and his starting the Aggy game will only hinder this amazing team.

Edited 8 hours ago by Irish Wrist Watch

[T’Boo Ted Marshall 2737]

Maybe he left him in since it was his last game at DKR

[Rockethorn1978 6101]

3 minutes ago, T’Boo Ted Marshall said:

Maybe he left him in since it was his last game at DKR

And risk greater injury and your season? That would be the dumbest reason to keep a qb in. 
 

whatever the real reason was it was really fucking dumb to keep a clearly hobbling qb in the game against Kentucky. 

[Irish Wrist Watch 1393]

Just now, Rockethorn1978 said:

And risk greater injury and your season? That would be the dumbest reason to keep a qb in. 
 

whatever the real reason was it was really fucking dumb to keep a clearly hobbling qb in the game against Kentucky. 

It's not dumb if Sark knows, or is pretty sure that it's Quinn's last game as starter.

[Cairn Horn88 8277]

3 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Yeah, with Ewers' banged up ankle, gotta get Arch ready to possibly start... 

All hands on deck....if Derk can do it.....

[gmr548 16589]

11 minutes ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

It's not dumb if Sark knows, or is pretty sure that it's Quinn's last game as starter.

Lmao what no it still is.

Even if you have the tin foil hat on and think it's Arch from here on, Arch could use the reps and you're never more than one play from having to go back to Ewers, so you don't exactly want him out there at higher risk of further injury.

Edited 7 hours ago by gmr548

[Cairn Horn88 8277]

2 hours ago, Red Five said:

He's hurt. 

Hurt, as in unable to perform, or hurting, as in not able to perform at 100%?

[Texasborn91 941]

What a fuckin gut punch. Thought  Quinn looked badass in the first half only to pick up an injury…. If THAT Quinn shows up we run the aggies out of the building 

[nbmishoid 962]

58 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

No kidding. I also laugh that it’s the Mannings plural, as if Archie, Peyton and Eli are involved in the operations of some kind of super product that Cooper by himself isn’t equipped to deal with alone. People are fucking stupid. 

Maybe mom has a relevant view, as a Manning?

[Cairn Horn88 8277]

1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

This post falls apart because we have seen Arch be QB1 for 2-1/2 games. His improvement was night and day between Monroe and Mississppi State. Arch lead Texas to 35 points against the only SEC defense he played, Ewers has done that once against the other 6 SEC defenses he has played.

The only reason the switch hasn't been made is likely the Manning family wants nothing to do with the controversy of replacing an entrenched starter on this team. I think the Manning and Arch himself would prefer to be QB1 throughout an entire off-season headning into the season.

I also think, if this was another Hudson Card/Casey Thompson situation the switch would have already been made.

Sark will use Arch if needed, and Sark will make that decision.

[nbmishoid 962]

30 minutes ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

Takeaways from last 12 hrs of comments:

1. Ewers is better at handoffs and screen passes than Manning. Uh huh.

2. Arch's family will be upset if he comes in and takes UT to a win over Aggy in long-awaited reunion. When he goes on to win the SEC and his First National Championship, they'll be so pissed that they'll pull him out of Austin and send him to Ohio State. (He'll need to resign his elections as Mayor of Austin/Governor of Texas).

3. Quinn's receivers simply haven't learned to come back for underthrown passes and knock aside defenders hanging all over them.

4. Quinn's ankle will be fine - until he tries to cut on it, or God forbid, scramble with the ball. Then he's done. Which means that Sark will limit his gameplan to accomodate Quinn, which means the sidearmer will be stuck in the pocket against a defense that will blitz on every play. Which means there'll be no RPOs and perhaps three or four fewer first downs and two or three more punts in the first half alone. Which means that the game will be that much closer or we'll be that much worse off by the time Sark finally puts in Manning, either because of Quinn's injury or performance. Which means Arch will be under even more pressure and very possibly in catch-up mode when he comes in. 

The aggies will come into this game planning to stuff the run game and daring the sidearmer Quinn, who will be under enormous pressure, to throw the ball. I'm not looking forward to watching this play out. 

It absolutely doesn't have to happen this way. Start Manning. Run the ball, including RPOs, use the RPOs to throw deep, intermediate and short passes, use Manning's ability to run play-action, drop deep and throw accurate bombs, and resume kicking ass, just like we did when Arch quarterbacked earlier in the year. 

Quinn will be a millionaire, if he isn't already. I appreciate what he's done so far, but he's injured, and his starting the Aggy game will only hinder this amazing team.

Stop making sense.

[Rex Kramer 1343]

Just now, nbmishoid said:

Maybe mom has a relevant view, as a Manning?

Sure but it’s not likely she knows what she’s talking about. I’ve got a lot of mom’s views over the years, and they are never so nuanced that would dictate a “plan” with a major CFB coach. The implication is always Cooper and uncles and/or Archie. And it is 100% wrong. 

[Longhornlove 4837]

Surprise, surprise, this thread is still a fucking disaster. JFC we have a bunch of cunts here.

[Derka 6287]

1 minute ago, Rex Kramer said:

The implication is always Cooper and uncles and/or Archie. And it is 100% wrong. 

you should run for office. people who speak out of their asses this confidently win races all of the time.

[Dahobbs 17627]

52 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

My position is simply that in 2010, in the national championship ship game, Mack Brown pulled Garrett Gilbert basically out of the freezer. 

Arch Manning hasn’t had a real possession since September where he was asked to do anything except hand the ball off. And it would be nice to keep the motor warmed up in case you need to drive that car. 

He played a quarter and a half against Florida and threw 6 passes. That isn't nothing, especially given the context of prior game experience.  It isn't the same situation at all. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Dahobbs

[WinningIsHard 4052]

A hobbled Quinn can’t beat a defense that Payton Thorne threw…checks notes…300 yards and 2 TD’s on. First, Payton Thorne sucks. Second, Auburn sucks. Third, this thread sucks even worse. It’s going to be fine. Our defense is going to fuck Marcel Reed up so bad he’s going to contemplate quitting football. 

[utexas8 1463]

I liked that ewers was More mobile yesterday and then he gets hurt again so back to not being mobile.

[936horn 916]

Hot damn I can’t wait until we win the title with Quinn at the helm. I’m going to go apeshit with receipts from all the dumb mother fuckers in this thread

[Newy25 7703]

2 hours ago, AeroHorn said:

Well, he is being schemed with 3-deep and despite our limited RB play due to injuries/fumbles, he has led us to where we are today.

Our defense has led us to where we are today I would argue. 

13 minutes ago, 936horn said:

Hot damn I can’t wait until we win the title with Quinn at the helm. I’m going to go apeshit with receipts from all the dumb mother fuckers in this thread

And if his limited ability is schemed against by a good defense and we lose will you come back and admit you are wrong? 

[52-80 19205]

15 minutes ago, 936horn said:

Hot damn I can’t wait until we win the title with Quinn at the helm. I’m going to go apeshit with receipts from all the dumb mother fuckers in this thread

I hope texas longhorns wins the championship just to spite all you haters

[B00M 6430]

25 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

A hobbled Quinn can’t beat a defense that Payton Thorne threw…checks notes…300 yards and 2 TD’s on. First, Payton Thorne sucks. Second, Auburn sucks. Third, this thread sucks even worse. It’s going to be fine. Our defense is going to fuck Marcel Reed up so bad he’s going to contemplate quitting football. 

Beating aggy is not our standard. 

[Hookem2147 21345]

1 hour ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Let’s just say it’s a mild sprain and wasn’t anything “major”. A mild sprain has a greater chance of turning into something major staying on the field. What if a Kentucky DL rolled up into him?

What if a Kentucky defender rolled up on Jake Majors or Kelvin Banks or Isaiah Bond who is also playing with a bad ankle?

It’s football. The risk of injury is there every play whether you are 100% healthy or not and is not a reason to not play someone if they are given the thumbs up from the training staff. 

Odds are about half the roster is dealing with a minor sprain somewhere at this point in the season. It’s week 13.

[Horn Dogg 3929]

3 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

I hope texas longhorns wins the championship just to spite all you haters

Shit, I hope they win the championship every year for a lot more reasons that that!

[Codaxx 5802]

3 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

What if a Kentucky defender rolled up on Jake Majors or Kelvin Banks or Isaiah Bond who is also playing with a bad ankle?

It’s football. The risk of injury is there every play whether you are 100% healthy or not and is not a reason to not play someone if they are given the thumbs up from the training staff. 

Odds are about half the roster is dealing with a minor sprain somewhere at this point in the season. It’s week 13.

Dj Campbell was limping around in the 4q  also 

[Nicole44 22071]

I agree with the reasonable ones that believe Arch needs to be  ready to go at a moment’s notice in future games. Have to hope he’s getting decent number of snaps in practice.

as far as QE his draft stock will be what it will be and I’d rather him go to a good solid team with a good owner/head coach that wants to continue to develop him. I do care where he goes. Where he goes is more important then WHEN he goes in the draft. And if he is as bad ass as many of yall believe he will earn his money and more and be a franchise starting QB. 

I watch all the games just like y’all and all the tape there is. I hope his switch flicks on again. When he is in the zone. Or at the very least we don’t go significant portions of the game without scoring. This won’t work with the level of competition we will face from here on out. 
 

the blitz is in our immediate future and he’s got to step up in pocket more. and we gotta clean up fumbles and if the ball is remotely catchable then  catch the damn ball. 

but I’m mainly concerned about further injury and everyone should also be. Pray he can heal quick. And that arch is ready to roll and that they have prepared for this in case he needs to come into a game or even start one. 
 

🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

[MrBig 5423]

1 hour ago, 52-80 said:

My position is simply that in 2010, in the national championship ship game, Mack Brown pulled Garrett Gilbert basically out of the freezer. 

Arch Manning hasn’t had a real possession since September where he was asked to do anything except hand the ball off. And it would be nice to keep the motor warmed up in case you need to drive that car. 

Sark thinks Arch is electric. Keeping Arch plugged in and ready to go with minimal game film out there is the best way to use him at this point in the season as long as we keep winning. 

I’ve been critical of Quinn but I can’t fault Sark for riding with his guy until the wheels fall off. But my head will absolutely explode if we have another Georgia Redux game and Arch stays on the bench again. 

 

[Irish Wrist Watch 1393]

24 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Lmao what no it still is.

Even if you have the tin foil hat on and think it's Arch from here on, Arch could use the reps and you're never more than one play from having to go back to Ewers, so you don't exactly want him out there at higher risk of further injury.

Well, I wanted Manning reps too, but I can see Sark's "Last Home Game" logic if he would just bring in Manning to sit on the ball. Sark probably figured there was no way Ewers could screw things up too badly, such as a pick-six or a fifteen yard lateral.

[Hookem10 754]

2 hours ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

Takeaways from last 12 hrs of comments:

1. Ewers is better at handoffs and screen passes than Manning. Uh huh.

2. Arch's family will be upset if he comes in and takes UT to a win over Aggy in long-awaited reunion. When he goes on to win the SEC and his First National Championship, they'll be so pissed that they'll pull him out of Austin and send him to Ohio State. (He'll need to resign his elections as Mayor of Austin/Governor of Texas).

3. Quinn's receivers simply haven't learned to come back for underthrown passes and knock aside defenders hanging all over them.

4. Quinn's ankle will be fine - until he tries to cut on it, or God forbid, scramble with the ball. Then he's done. Which means that Sark will limit his gameplan to accomodate Quinn, which means the sidearmer will be stuck in the pocket against a defense that will blitz on every play. Which means there'll be no RPOs and perhaps three or four fewer first downs and two or three more punts in the first half alone. Which means that the game will be that much closer or we'll be that much worse off by the time Sark finally puts in Manning, either because of Quinn's injury or performance. Which means Arch will be under even more pressure and very possibly in catch-up mode when he comes in. 

The aggies will come into this game planning to stuff the run game and daring the sidearmer Quinn, who will be under enormous pressure, to throw the ball. I'm not looking forward to watching this play out. 

It absolutely doesn't have to happen this way. Start Manning. Run the ball, including RPOs, use the RPOs to throw deep, intermediate and short passes, use Manning's ability to run play-action, drop deep and throw accurate bombs, and resume kicking ass, just like we did when Arch quarterbacked earlier in the year. 

Quinn will be a millionaire, if he isn't already. I appreciate what he's done so far, but he's injured, and his starting the Aggy game will only hinder this amazing team.

Ooooor, hear me out , aggy plays like they play which is like runny diarrhea, and we run down their throat and win going away.