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Just now, WinningIsHard said:

the original quote was those stats are "not bad." Are you saying 4-0, 984 yards, 12 TD's to 2 Int's at 67% is bad somehow? 

i am not responding to that post. the original post was made; someone then said that actually watching the games makes those stats look less impressive; another poster then claimed that wasn’t true. i responded to that poster and his claim, and my take on QE’s passing yards and how impressive or unimpressive they are is explicitly stated in the post you just quoted. in other words, what im saying is what i said.

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1 hour ago, TreatyOak said:

In this thread we kept hearing about how Dart carved up Arkansas, blah, blah blah, so much better, blah blah blah. How did Dart do against mighty Florida? 

That was the first time he threw multiple interceptions in a game since October 2022. In that same time span Quinn has had 3.

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Derka said:

i am not responding to that post. the original post was made; someone then said that actually watching the games makes those stats look less impressive; another poster then claimed that wasn’t true. i responded to that poster and his claim, and my take on QE’s passing yards and how impressive or unimpressive they are is explicitly stated in the post you just quoted. in other words, what im saying is what i said.

less impressive than not bad is in fact bad which is the entire premise of the conversation. First) Those stats are not bad. 2nd) unless you watched the games. 3rd) nope I watched and they still aren't bad. Derka-yeah they are less than impressive considering the circumstances. Is this a bit? 

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8 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Ok. Let me address this. Everyone is bitching that Ewers gets balls batted so I put the Arch ball getting batted too. A person SHOULD chip a rusher on the way to the flat. When I said that you guys said I was making excuses for Ewers. By putting the Arch ball getting batted maybe you guys see that it's not just a Ewers problem it's an US problem.

Stats never tell the whole story. You can have two teams rush for 125 yards per game. Both teams rush for exactly 5 yards every time they hand it off. If you ask which team is the better running team the stats will say that they are both exactly equal. However when you turn on the tape team A is getting their 125 vs a stacked box while team B is getting their 125 vs a 3 man front. Then team B comes up against a team wanting to load the box and their productivity drops in half and no one can figure out why while team A keeps chugging along at their 125 per totally unaffected because they always see loaded boxes.

Last game the Vandagriff kid was struggling. Then the Boley kid came in and looked much better than him or so said Derka. However, as soon as the freshman came in PK started calling a shit ton of blitzes because that's the rule vs a freshman, leaving us completely exposed on the back end 1v1. Guys, knowing he is a freshman, shirked their responsibilities and started taking chances causing coverage busts. The kid was just airing balls out and it caught us off guard. However, as soon as we went back to normal coverage he threw right into double coverage and got picked. Stats will show him as the better player but he likely wasn't.

 

 

Let’s start with Boley.  Decent day.  As for the pick, it was 3rd and 32 with 40 seconds left.  There weren’t really many options.  For that day, he was better than Vandergrift.  You’re acting as though he lost his mind due to pressure.

Now for batted balls.  I personally don’t give a shit.  Chip or not both those plays were dead in the water.  Throw it away. But again, you throw one play in your critique video, but the other you explained what should have happened.  Generally speaking, tipped balls are due the play call and finding windows.  There aren’t many QBs that can throw a slant, RPO over the head of a lineman, that raises his arms or maybe even jumps.  You need to find the window. And the lineman needs to keep them engaged to keep the hands down.  So any 1-2% variation that may result impacts me very little.

As for the stats, you have a tendency to talk down to some of us.  Damn near any stat I’ll throw out is with a practical consideration based on years of watching, playing, observing.  Hell, I watch too much and spend way too much time on it.  With respect to the running game, it’s been there every SEC game for us except Georgia when we really didn’t give it a chance.  You’ve referenced going 5-wide.  Pretty sure the opening drive of the 2nd half we ran the ball 4 plays in a row, got a first then had a 2 WR route to kick start that drive.  That 2.5 to 3 yards a carry was not spectacular but effective.  So, yes, I’m well aware all stats need context.

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1 hour ago, Derka said:

of curse it does. first off, 984 passing yards in four games is not something to crow about. it’s not 1963. second, when 600 of those yards come after the catch on throws that are at/around the LOS, it absolutely puts a new perspective on what was already a not-particularly-impressive amount of passing yards for a four game stretch, particularly when sark is your coach and you’re surrounded by elite pass catching talent. the context behind the the numbers always matters. “numbers don’t lie” is the biggest lie in sports.

Numbers don’t care about your feelings. 

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26 minutes ago, immamac said:

Quinn has played good post Vandy. Anyone bitching needs to shut up. We get it you want to bitch about something because you hate your own miserable life or something. Just shut the fuck up and stop ruining 10-1 for people. 

Quinn was clearly injured in the 2nd half of Kentucky. We want Quinn to not be injured. This thread should be a lot of injury speculation and contingency planning conspiracies. Instead you fucking morons are rehashing stupid shit you've already said 50 times a lot of times with the same exact words in slightly different order. 

Quinn isn't playing like he did againat Georgia which is where a lot of ire came from. Go watch that game again you fucking bafoons. 

Played poorly in OU, Georgia, and Arkansas. Outside of the deep ball not much to bitch about in the other games. Quinn is great when he has clean pockets and reads. A&M is going to be a huge game for Quinn. NFL wants to see if he can deal with pressure. I hope he comes out and changes the narrative this weekend. Its the biggest question in the game for me. 

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26 minutes ago, immamac said:

Quinn has played good post Vandy. Anyone bitching needs to shut up. We get it you want to bitch about something because you hate your own miserable life or something. Just shut the fuck up and stop ruining 10-1 for people. 

Quinn was clearly injured in the 2nd half of Kentucky. We want Quinn to not be injured. This thread should be a lot of injury speculation and contingency planning conspiracies. Instead you fucking morons are rehashing stupid shit you've already said 50 times a lot of times with the same exact words in slightly different order. 

Quinn isn't playing like he did againat Georgia which is where a lot of ire came from. Go watch that game again you fucking bafoons. 

If he legit sprained his ankle, he’s likely gonna play like he did against Georgia

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Just now, GreenspointTexas said:

If he legit sprained his ankle, he’s likely gonna play like he did against Georgia

This is a perfectly fine concern and good discussion for this thread. 

Talking about his aggregate stats and just shitting on the guy befause you don't liking is not gonna fly in here anymore. It's played out and people wanna talk about other shit without having to wade through that. This isn't about sunshine pumping but go doom and shit on Quinn in another thread. 

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3 hours ago, Thatguy said:

The reason why everyone is talking about our schedule is because they talked so much shit that "when we came to the SEC we would be also rans and that it is such a meat grinder". Now they are pissed that we are running this mother fucker so the only way to save face is to say we played a pussy ass schedule. We beat Florida who beat Ole Miss and we didn't just beat them, we beat the brakes off them. We beat Vandy who beat Bama. We beat Kentucky who beat Freshwater. We would do the same to all these other clowns but of course they weren't on our schedule which is more a blessing for them than it is for us.

So now the conversation shifts to "The SEC is down and now the BIG is where it's at". We should go hop in that motherfucker and big dick their conference too. No one wants to address the 900lb gorilla in the room. Even bitchass SEC Shorts barely talks about us, the strongest team in their conference. Everyone is clutching their pearls and hoping the dude standing in the middle of the room with no pants on and his big-ass dick dragging on the floor will just go away.

Really good.

I think Georgia and Smart (I didn't realize what a whiny dickhead that guy is) celebrating like they'd won the Super Bowl was telling. Georgia has been beating good teams for years. This one was special to them. The whole "nobody thought we could do it" take was surprising to me. I thought you was Georgia, kings of the SEC.

I do want to play them again. 

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45 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Let’s start with Boley.  Decent day.  As for the pick, it was 3rd and 32 with 40 seconds left.  There weren’t really many options.  For that day, he was better than Vandergrift.  You’re acting as though he lost his mind due to pressure.

Now for batted balls.  I personally don’t give a shit.  Chip or not both those plays were dead in the water.  Throw it away. But again, you throw one play in your critique video, but the other you explained what should have happened.  Generally speaking, tipped balls are due the play call and finding windows.  There aren’t many QBs that can throw a slant, RPO over the head of a lineman, that raises his arms or maybe even jumps.  You need to find the window. And the lineman needs to keep them engaged to keep the hands down.  So any 1-2% variation that may result impacts me very little.

As for the stats, you have a tendency to talk down to some of us.  Damn near any stat I’ll throw out is with a practical consideration based on years of watching, playing, observing.  Hell, I watch too much and spend way too much time on it.  With respect to the running game, it’s been there every SEC game for us except Georgia when we really didn’t give it a chance.  You’ve referenced going 5-wide.  Pretty sure the opening drive of the 2nd half we ran the ball 4 plays in a row, got a first then had a 2 WR route to kick start that drive.  That 2.5 to 3 yards a carry was not spectacular but effective.  So, yes, I’m well aware all stats need context.

What you said about batted balls is absolutely true except when Quinn has batted balls and then its his fault. We let a rusher come through the line untouched vs Vandy and post after post was somehow it was Quinn's fault. Now look at how much more comfortable we are blaming others now that we remember that Arch had balls batted too.

As for stats and context again you just got done using a stat as an example of how Arch was better than Ewers without the context that Arch got most of his stats vs ULM and Miss St while Ewers faced a lot more competent defenses. So please spare me with the "you tend to talk down to some of us". If you are going to use stats in bad faith then I am going to point that out. If that makes you look some type of way for doing that and you don't like that then don't use stats in bad faith. The two most similar teams they played were Florida and Miss St.

I am not here to make enemies and I generally have respect for 99% of the people on this board as a lot of people have a place where they shine and their contributions make this place awesome. However, I am not going stepped on by the likes of Derka and a couple other posters. So if guys like you get caught up in that I apologize.

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16 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

Or Kentucky?

18-27 261 yards, 9.7 yds/att, 1 TD, 0 ints

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20 - 31  191 yards, 6.2 yds/att, 2 TD, 0 ints

 

real difference in those games was Ole Miss ran is 29 times for 92 yards (3.17) vs 47 for 250 (5.32) for Texas. If Texas can run the ball like that vs A&M, this weekend will be a blow out

 

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3 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Really good.

I think Georgia and Smart (I didn't realize what a whiny dickhead that guy is) celebrating like they'd won the Super Bowl was telling. Georgia has been beating good teams for years. This one was special to them. The whole "nobody thought we could do it" take was surprising to me. I thought you was Georgia, kings of the SEC.

I do want to play them again. 

OU sucking big donkey dicks didn't get us ready for a good opponent and we got smacked in the mouth. No one was ready for that game. Not the coaches. Not Quinn. Not the O-line. Not the backs. Even the defense played well but when we needed them the most to get us a stop at the end of the game they faltered. I think in a rematch we will see a more mentally ready squad and I like our chances. A couple things have been shored up in protection and the run game. We've also gotten better at rushing the passer as we had 0 sacks in that game.

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1 hour ago, WinningIsHard said:

the original quote was those stats are "not bad." Are you saying 4-0, 984 yards, 12 TD's to 2 Int's at 67% is bad somehow? 

Imagine being pissed off during a stretch we went 4-0 with a 67% passer and a 12-2 TD-INT ratio. Wild. You do whatever is easiest and working. If you can run the football 40 times and go 14-0 why would you not do it?

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10 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Really good.

I think Georgia and Smart (I didn't realize what a whiny dickhead that guy is) celebrating like they'd won the Super Bowl was telling. Georgia has been beating good teams for years. This one was special to them. The whole "nobody thought we could do it" take was surprising to me. I thought you was Georgia, kings of the SEC.

I do want to play them again. 

This!!!

people talk shit about Texas schedule but Georgia had been doing this for years!! And then still go on and win National Championships 

People are just upset cause they thought Texas wouldn’t be able to do what they’re doing. 
 

at this point FUCK EM WE BALL!!!

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5 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

OU sucking big donkey dicks didn't get us ready for a good opponent and we got smacked in the mouth. No one was ready for that game. Not the coaches. Not Quinn. Not the O-line. Not the backs. Even the defense played well but when we needed them the most to get us a stop at the end of the game they faltered. I think in a rematch we will see a more mentally ready squad and I like our chances. A couple things have been shored up in protection and the run game. We've also gotten better at rushing the passer as we had 0 sacks in that game.

This 100% 

we weren’t ready for the speed Georgia showed. Honestly it took us a min to pull away from Miss State two weeks before and even after against Vandy. I think now we are more adjusted to that speed of the SEC and show way better if we face Georgia today specially playing A&M.

say what you want but the Faggys have a prototype SEC team. 

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8 minutes ago, immamac said:

Deep pass concerns are fine, things that are currently relevant are fine. Rehashing shit because you hate Quinn - we are done with that for now in here. 

I don't think anybody here hates Quinn. Well, maybe that one guy that wished injury on him but he got some time off to think about it.

It's your site, you can run it how you please, but restricting which specific criticisms of a player who is obviously struggling and has been struggling for months (i.e., we can now only complain about his deep throws but apparently can't point out flaws in his footwork, mechanics or fear of contact) simply because you agree with the first and disagree with the latter definitely crosses into Agnor territory.

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Just now, Braff Zacklin said:

I don't think anybody here hates Quinn. Well, maybe that one guy that wished injury on him but he got some time off to think about it.

It's your site, you can run it how you please, but restricting which specific criticisms of a player who is obviously struggling and has been struggling for months (i.e., we can now only complain about his deep throws but apparently can't point out flaws in his footwork, mechanics or fear of contact) simply because you agree with the first and disagree with the latter definitely crosses into Agnor territory.

No I'm tired of the same exact fucking argument, which once it's boiled down to "why are you continuing to argue this?" Is very obviously just Quinn hate. 

A ton of people aren't participating because of this stupidity. 

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On 11/24/2024 at 8:22 AM, Gandalfish said:

1. Texas 49-17 vs. Florida. Score = 100.0 (QBR 90.0 +10 for win)

2. Texas 20-10 vs. Arkansas Score = 72.0 (QBR 62.0 +10 for win)

3. Texas 31-14 vs. Kentucky Score = 77.6 (QBR 67.6 +10 for win)

4. We watch the Texas vs. Aggy game. Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

5. We watch the next Texas game of the season (Bowl game, SEC Championship, or First round playoff). Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss -30 if this is a bowl game +10 if it's the SEC championship.

 

Despite the win, Quinn has slid down to KIND OF A PUSSY, with an average score of 83.2 so far.

Please resume arguing...

You actually can quantify pussification. Trust the *science.

 

*It's not actually science

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7 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

I don't think anybody here hates Quinn. Well, maybe that one guy that wished injury on him but he got some time off to think about it.

It's your site, you can run it how you please, but restricting which specific criticisms of a player who is obviously struggling and has been struggling for months (i.e., we can now only complain about his deep throws but apparently can't point out flaws in his footwork, mechanics or fear of contact) simply because you agree with the first and disagree with the latter definitely crosses into Agnor territory.

Hey, dude, remember who you’re talking to.  Think about the responsibility he has to our team.  Burton mentions him and the tailgate a lot on the podcasts.  Critiques are fine, but even Burton had to back off a little when he caught himself almost trashing Quinn.

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2 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Imagine being pissed off during a stretch we went 4-0 with a 67% passer and a 12-2 TD-INT ratio. Wild. You do whatever is easiest and working. If you can run the football 40 times and go 14-0 why would you not do it?

I'm happy with the wins. The issues with Quinn are always anticipatory for me. I've been convinced for weeks that he'll get injured in the A&M game. Aggies are physical (and dirty) under Elko. As it ends up, he gets hurt the week before. So that concern is/was valid. Some football players seem prone to injury, unfortunately Quinn is one of them. Him being able to move around the pocket (and out of it) seems crucial for offensive success in this game. 

I'm also concerned with struggles throwing the ball 20 yards past the LOS. Would have liked to see improvement there over the last month, but it hasn't really happened. I think that will catch up with us. Maybe it doesn't matter vs. A&M or even the SEC Championship game if we get there. But deep ball issues put too much stress on other team areas having to be great to perfect. It feels unsustainable. 

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4 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Hey, dude, remember who you’re talking to.  Think about the responsibility he has to our team.  Burton mentions him and the tailgate a lot on the podcasts.  Critiques are fine, but even Burton had to back off a little when he caught himself almost trashing Quinn.

I don't care about people talking shit, that's what this site is for. I care about people mucking up a thread for 5-10+ pages on the same exact thing with the same exact posters with the same exact rhetoric. It kills real conversations that can happen that are relevant. That was relevant for a bit, its no longer relevant, so much so that its a funny bit that's now part of surly lore (see @Gandalfish post) 

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16 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I'm happy with the wins. The issues with Quinn are always anticipatory for me. I've been convinced for weeks that he'll get injured in the A&M game. Aggies are physical (and dirty) under Elko. As it ends up, he gets hurt the week before. So that concern is/was valid. Some football players seem prone to injury, unfortunately Quinn is one of them. Him being able to move around the pocket (and out of it) seems crucial for offensive success in this game. 

I'm also concerned with struggles throwing the ball 20 yards past the LOS. Would have liked to see improvement there over the last month, but it hasn't really happened. I think that will catch up with us. Maybe it doesn't matter vs. A&M or even the SEC Championship game if we get there. But deep ball issues put too much stress on other team areas having to be great to perfect. It feels unsustainable. 

Sark can mitigate the deep ball issues, if Quinn is hitting in the intermediate game. He threw 2 really nice throws in the UK. Passes that have been missing for most of this season. My real concern is the pocket presence. That is going to set the ceiling on this team. OL has been pretty dominant the last 2 weeks, but its hard to depend on that the rest of the year. If they are dominant, Trey Owens can be the QB and Texas will win a NC. They have so much pressure on them. We havent seen a QB or RB that can clean up their mistakes this year. 

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27 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

 

As for stats and context again you just got done using a stat as an example of how Arch was better than Ewers without the context that Arch got most of his stats vs ULM and Miss St while Ewers faced a lot more competent defenses. So please spare me with the "you tend to talk down to some of us". If you are going to use stats in bad faith then I am going to point that out. If that makes you look some type of way for doing that and you don't like that then don't use stats in bad faith. The two most similar teams they played were Florida and Miss St.

 

What stat did I use to say Arch was better than Ewers?  I’ve never asked for Arch to be the guy, not even said he should be brought in.

I have said that we can win with both.  

I did previously quote some Quinn numbers in relation to his ranks on the intermediate range throughout the entire country.  I did reference that Ewers first start was against a shittier ULM team than Arch’s first start against a not good ULM team.

 

You will pretty much never hear me say a player sucks.  You won’t hear me say player X shouldn’t play or should never see the field.  One cause it’s shitty and two because I don’t know what the coaches are asking of them.  I try to not even do that for former players or opponents.

Any stat I throw out a stat is open for discussion.  It’s a team game same as it’s always been.  Over the long term, the best TEAM wins.  Every player who ever played has screws up.  I haven’t played in 30 years and I can remember tons of specific plays that I absolutely messed up.

”bad faith?”  Yeah, doesn’t happen.

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4 hours ago, Derka said:

of curse it does. first off, 984 passing yards in four games is not something to crow about. it’s not 1963. second, when 600 of those yards come after the catch on throws that are at/around the LOS, it absolutely puts a new perspective on what was already a not-particularly-impressive amount of passing yards for a four game stretch, particularly when sark is your coach and you’re surrounded by elite pass catching talent. the context behind the the numbers always matters. “numbers don’t lie” is the biggest lie in sports.

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4 minutes ago, futureman said:

buffoons.  or did you mean to say baboons. 

Yeah I was juggling a kid and lots of typos I actually did think about baboons when I was writing that which is probably why it came out that way. Lol

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Am I the only one who's still angry that Sark kept Quinn in with a sprained ankle when we have a QB that's perfectly capable of making simple reads and handing the ball off? Because that's pretty much all we did in the second half. Not only would that let Quinn rest up his ankle, prevent further damage and keep him from being a sitting duck since he could barely move, but it would've given Arch some more game reps. We had a 17-point cushion in case Arch came up and things went sideways. Even if Quinn said he was fine, everyone could see that wasn't the case. I don't get it.

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1 hour ago, Eggo said:

Reading this thread makes me think some people never got over not hiring Art Briles. 

All things considered, Briles would've been a monster at Texas. He's a ginormous piece of shit and likely never would've gotten a look for Texas were it not for shadiness exhibited at every level but just looking at it in a binary sense -- Art Briles would've won hugely in Austin.

 

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I'm happy with the wins. The issues with Quinn are always anticipatory for me. I've been convinced for weeks that he'll get injured in the A&M game. Aggies are physical (and dirty) under Elko. As it ends up, he gets hurt the week before. So that concern is/was valid. Some football players seem prone to injury, unfortunately Quinn is one of them. Him being able to move around the pocket (and out of it) seems crucial for offensive success in this game. 

I'm also concerned with struggles throwing the ball 20 yards past the LOS. Would have liked to see improvement there over the last month, but it hasn't really happened. I think that will catch up with us. Maybe it doesn't matter vs. A&M or even the SEC Championship game if we get there. But deep ball issues put too much stress on other team areas having to be great to perfect. It feels unsustainable. 

Perfectly said.

 

2 minutes ago, OU Sucks said:

Am I the only one who's still angry that Sark kept Quinn in with a sprained ankle when we have a QB that's perfectly capable of making simple reads and handing the ball off? Because that's pretty much all we did in the second half. Not only would that let Quinn rest up his ankle, prevent further damage and keep him from being a sitting duck since he could barely move, but it would've given Arch some more game reps. We had a 17-point cushion in case Arch came up and things went sideways. I don't get it.

I was at the game and wasn't completely aware that he'd injured ankle so the second half performance was mystifying. It made a lot more sense when I realized the scope of the ankle injury. And, yes, I'm extremely confused why Sark didn't sit him to rest and put in Arch to hand the ball off, throw an occasional pass and get some much-needed reps heading into aggy and (hopefully) Georgia rematch. He had perfect cover to just say Quinn got dinged and we didn't want him getting hurt anymore when we were up 24-7.

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4 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

texags rumor that Quinn reinjured himself in practice yesterday and might be out Saturday. I’ve seen no confirmation that he even practiced yesterday so I’m sure it’s bullshit (also lol texags) but figured this thread needed a new direction beyond the same three posters arguing past each other.

That lines up with a text I got from a friend this AM that said there's word going around that Quinn re-aggravated the oblique and might not play Saturday. Could be gamesmanship. Could be nothing.

The parallels with the 1999 game are eerie, though. Freshman backup is son of NFL royalty, 25th anniversary of the Bonfire disaster. At Kyle Field.

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10 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

texags rumor that Quinn reinjured himself in practice yesterday and might be out Saturday. I’ve seen no confirmation that he even practiced yesterday so I’m sure it’s bullshit (also lol texags) but figured this thread needed a new direction beyond the same three posters arguing past each other.

That’s just wishful thinking from a large group of dipshits.  Dismiss.

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