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Appreciate the response.  I’m curious about people’s experiences in that we could actually learn from others.  Know quite a few UMHB folks too.
in the end, the timing is off for whatever anyone wants to attribute it.

MHB has a beautiful home stadium and campus, for a smaller/ private school. I’ve never seen a FB game there but a grandson of a close family member played FB there in the last decade. I’ve only been there for HS Band competitions.

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Honestly, this has been probably the most University of Texas Sports of all threads on this board. The best part is it has also had a delicious Surly twist. 

It's been an interesting and wild thread. 

Hopefully, we're bitching/ about/defending how Quinn played but/and won the SEC Championship next week at this time.

1 minute ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Many Texas fans are just enamored with backup quarterbacks.

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10 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Honestly, this has been probably the most University of Texas Sports of all threads on this board. The best part is it has also had a delicious Surly twist. 

It's been an interesting and wild thread. 

Hopefully, we're bitching/ about/defending how Quinn played but/and won the SEC Championship next week at this time.

Fixed, also some fanbois won't admit issues when they're clear.

I certainly am not denying any issues however a lot of the issues are not entirely because of Quinn, yet being the QB you will get some the heat and that is to be expected.

I will say this….if Quinn starts every game from this point forward it will give us our best chance to win the national championship.

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1 hour ago, Steamboat1874 said:

“Texas is winning in spite of Quinn.”

Dumbass post of the year.

No it isn’t.

Quinn could easily have thrown three picks against aggy. Additionally he fumbled and threw a pick six, both inside the twenty. And we still won.

We could have run the ball the whole game and beaten those chumps.

Quinn did a few nice things. He also tried to single-handedly give the game away.

The Quinn that played against A&M loses against Georgia this week. 

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1 minute ago, Steamboat1874 said:

I certainly am not denying any issues however a lot of the issues are not entirely because of Quinn, yet being the QB you will get some the heat and that is to be expected.

I will say this….if Quinn starts every game from this point forward it will give us our best chance to win the national championship.

I said long along that when Sark decided to bring Quinn back in the Georgia game after half time, the bed for the season was made. For better or worse, not switching then locked us in with Quinn for the rest of the season. I also spelled out exactly why I think Sark made that choice. 

I hope it doesn't cause issues in the long term for Texas, but it might. On the flip side changing may have created different issues.

We now gotta run what we brung, and hope we brought enough.

I believe in this D, this Oline and the skill positions. I think all of those components are championship caliber.

......... so... let go see.

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4 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

No it isn’t.

Quinn could easily have thrown three picks against aggy. Additionally he fumbled and threw a pick six, both inside the twenty. And we still won.

We could have run the ball the whole game and beaten those chumps.

Quinn did a few nice things. He also tried to single-handedly give the game away.

The Quinn that played against A&M loses against Georgia this week. 

I would add I think part of that also rests with Sark. Not disputing your points but Sark seems to hesitate to press the Run The Ball button on repeat when it's working. 

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1 minute ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Would’ve, could’ve…..blah fucking blah.

At this point no one knows if Arch is better than Quinn.

The entire point of this thread isn't if Arch is better than Quinn. It's can we win with Quinn. 

If you haven't grasped that reality at this point, dunno what to tell you. 

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16 minutes ago, msucolt45 said:


MHB has a beautiful home stadium and campus, for a smaller/ private school. I’ve never seen a FB game there but a grandson of a close family member played FB there in the last decade. I’ve only been there for HS Band competitions.

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About 13 years ago we hired the OC from MHB to design our 12U youth football offense. We dominated the hill country and it only costed a couple thousand dollars.

DIII football coaches are cheap.

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We’ve only scored 17 second half points in the last three games. That has to improve. 

There has definitely been a drop in play/increase in mistakes the last few 2nd halves, but we’ve also seen that Sark doesn’t just go for the jugular and try to score as many points as possible with a lead in the 2nd half.

It can be frustrating because it has made some of our scoreboards closer than the games really were, but it’s tough to argue with the results, especially since we have had a couple dominant, soul-crushing drives when we needed them late.

This team is playing winning football and I don’t think we’re done winning yet. At this point, who gives a fuck how many we score in the 2nd half if we win?
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2 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

The reality is we have a lot more games left to win and it isn't a given we can do that with Quinn.

How hard can that be to understand?

Let me ask you two questions…

How is your confidence that we will beat Georgia right now with the team as is?
 

Now if Quinn had to have his appendix removed Friday night what would your confidence be ?

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No it isn’t.
Quinn could easily have thrown three picks against aggy. Additionally he fumbled and threw a pick six, both inside the twenty. And we still won.
We could have run the ball the whole game and beaten those chumps.
Quinn did a few nice things. He also tried to single-handedly give the game away.
The Quinn that played against A&M loses against Georgia this week. 
Against Georgia, Quinn could have ended up with about 6 picks.

Here we are after game 12 and people are still hoping and wishing Quinn takes the reigns of the offense. Tells you all you need to know.
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7 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Let me ask you two questions…

How is your confidence that we will beat Georgia right now with the team as is?
 

Now if Quinn had to have his appendix removed Friday night what would your confidence be ?

As things stand right now, if I killed your straw man in cold blood how confident would you be I'd go to prison?

Now, let's say your straw man had an appendix removed before I murdered him what would your confidence be? 

Finally, what part of my prior posts did you fail to understand?

Final answer, probably about the same.

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As things stand right now, if I killed your straw man in cold blood how confident would you be I'd go to prison?

Now, let's say your straw man had an appendix removed before I murdered him what would your confidence be? 

Finally, what part of my prior posts did you fail to understand?

Final answer, probably about the same.

@Steamboat1874

See below for reference of prior post above. 

 

32 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

The entire point of this thread isn't if Arch is better than Quinn. It's can we win with Quinn. 

If you haven't grasped that reality at this point, dunno what to tell you. 

 

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18 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

The reality is we have a lot more games left to win and it isn't a given we can do that with Quinn.

How hard can that be to understand?

We are more likely to win with Quinn.

Unless you think Satk doesn't give a fuck about winning and keeping his job, it makes no sense to switch to QB2 at this point.

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10 minutes ago, F250 said:

We are more likely to win with Quinn.

Unless you think Satk doesn't give a fuck about winning and keeping his job, it makes no sense to switch to QB2 at this point.

 

1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

Honestly, this has been probably the most University of Texas Sports of all threads on this board. The best part is it has also had a delicious Surly twist. 

It's been an interesting and wild thread. 

Hopefully, we're bitching/ about/defending how Quinn played but/and won the SEC Championship next week at this time.

Fixed, also some fanbois won't admit issues when they're clear.

 

49 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I said long along that when Sark decided to bring Quinn back in the Georgia game after half time, the bed for the season was made. For better or worse, not switching then locked us in with Quinn for the rest of the season. I also spelled out exactly why I think Sark made that choice. 

I hope it doesn't cause issues in the long term for Texas, but it might. On the flip side changing may have created different issues.

We now gotta run what we brung, and hope we brought enough.

I believe in this D, this Oline and the skill positions. I think all of those components are championship caliber.

......... so... let go see.

 

46 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

The entire point of this thread isn't if Arch is better than Quinn. It's can we win with Quinn. 

If you haven't grasped that reality at this point, dunno what to tell you. 

Please read all my posts on the topic on this page before quoting one.  That way I don't have to keep retreading my main point over and over and over. I'm not asking you to go back a page but it's just a few posts up. 

Go ahead and point out exactly where I suggested we should bench Quinn for the CCG or any moving forward. Or anywhere after the UF game. Hint, I didn't.

Jesus fucking Christ 

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6 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

 

 

 

Please read all my posts on the topic on this page before quoting one.  That way I don't have to keep retreading my main point over and over and over. I'm not asking you to go back a page but it's just a few posts up. 

Jesus fucking Christ 

Please enlighten us about how we would be a better team going forward with Arch instead of Quinn.

Please keep Quinn’s W-L record as a starter in your thoughts and prayers.

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14 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Please enlighten us about how we would be a better team going forward with Arch instead of Quinn.

Please keep Quinn’s W-L record as a starter in your thoughts and prayers.

Where exactly did I say that in the post you quoted, or anywhere on this page? Content below for easy reference.

Please read all my posts on the topic on this page before quoting one. That way I don't have to keep retreading my main point over and over and over. I'm not asking you to go back a page but it's just a few posts up. 

 

Jesus fucking Christ 

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Come on man.

I am not going back to read all of this shit.

I just got the overall vibe that you, and several others, think Arch gives us a better chance to win than Quinn.

No one actually knows that and now is not the time to find out.

We are all pretty sure Arch will be great but Quinn is starting the rest of the year if healthy because Sark knows he is our best chance to win.

We will see some Arch package plays against Georgia and that is awesome.

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1 minute ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Come on man.

I am not going back to read all of this shit.

I just got the overall vibe that you, and several others, think Arch gives us a better chance to win than Quinn.

No one actually knows that and now is not the time to find out.

We are all pretty sure Arch will be great but Quinn is starting the rest of the year if healthy because Sark knows he is our best chance to win.

We will see some Arch package plays against Georgia and that is awesome.

Quinn is a known quantity this season. He was absolute dogshit against Georgia and has done very little since then (outside of having one good game against a banged up UF secondary) to show that he will do anything other than repeat the same performance. He has been nothing other than a major disappointment this season.  It is because of the defense that we’re 11-1 and to think otherwise is foolish.  Every major offensive statistic shows the offense has been nothing more than average since Quinn came back from injury.

Any time Arch steps on then field there is a different vibe to the offense and they play with a much different energy when he’s QB1.  He may only have mastery of half of the offense that Quinn does, but I believe he can run that half better than Quinn has shown this season.

I have zero confidence that Quinn can beat Georgia and would prefer to roll the dice with the kid.  

What have you seen Quinn do since the Georgia game that gives you any confidence he can win on Saturday?

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7 minutes ago, Yev Kassem said:

Quinn is a known quantity this season. He was absolute dogshit against Georgia and has done very little since then (outside of having one good game against a banged up UF secondary) to show that he will do anything other than repeat the same performance. He has been nothing other than a major disappointment this season.  It is because of the defense that we’re 11-1 and to think otherwise is foolish.  Every major offensive statistic shows the offense has been nothing more than average since Quinn came back from injury.

Any time Arch steps on then field there is a different vibe to the offense and they play with a much different energy when he’s QB1.  He may only have mastery of half of the offense that Quinn does, but I believe he can run that half better than Quinn has shown this season.

I have zero confidence that Quinn can beat Georgia and would prefer to roll the dice with the kid.  

What have you seen Quinn do since the Georgia game that gives you any confidence he can win on Saturday?

Win five straight.

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2 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Win five straight.

Matt fucking Nordgren could win five straight with the way this defense is playing.

17 second half points in three weeks. That’s not gonna cut it against Georgia and most of the teams we could face in the CFP.

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10 hours ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Some people are just enamored with backup quarterbacks.

I think you need to look back to the preseason to understand the general frustration. There were questions about the defense.  This was a team expected to win with its offense. Big things were expected out of the OL and the 5 star QB in his 3rd year as a starter, especially the passign game. Now compare that to how the team finished the season. They are winning, because the defense and OL is dominating. The passing game has been the worst aspect of the team (outside of kicking). The last 3 games the passing game has averaged under 200 yards vs suspect pass defenses. The starting QB has given up more pts (14) than the defense (10). Of course, people are questioning the QB. Any rational person would at least wonder what a 5 star QB that adds to the running game would do for the team. The one thing this team needs is consistent QB play. That is one thing Quinn has proven he cannot give the team. A&M game was a perfect example of that. Quinn struggled early, looked like Heisman candidate in the 2Q, and finished turning it over twice in the second half. In that backdrop it is not surprising that fans are arguing between an inconsistent 3 year starting QB and the promise of an inexperienced QB with potential on a team with NC talent. It won't end until Quinn plays to his abilities or Manning comes in and shows what he is capable of bringing to the team. As a Texas fan, I hope it is the former. If it is the latter, it will be a very bumpy road. 

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27 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I think you need to look back to the preseason to understand the general frustration. There were questions about the defense.  This was a team expected to win with its offense. Big things were expected out of the OL and the 5 star QB in his 3rd year as a starter, especially the passign game. Now compare that to how the team finished the season. They are winning, because the defense and OL is dominating. The passing game has been the worst aspect of the team (outside of kicking). The last 3 games the passing game has averaged under 200 yards vs suspect pass defenses. The starting QB has given up more pts (14) than the defense (10). Of course, people are questioning the QB. Any rational person would at least wonder what a 5 star QB that adds to the running game would do for the team. The one thing this team needs is consistent QB play. That is one thing Quinn has proven he cannot give the team. A&M game was a perfect example of that. Quinn struggled early, looked like Heisman candidate in the 2Q, and finished turning it over twice in the second half. In that backdrop it is not surprising that fans are arguing between an inconsistent 3 year starting QB and the promise of an inexperienced QB with potential on a team with NC talent. It won't end until Quinn plays to his abilities or Manning comes in and shows what he is capable of bringing to the team. As a Texas fan, I hope it is the former. If it is the latter, it will be a very bumpy road. 

Perfectly stated. 

Very few are arguing Arch should start. Mostly we’re despondent at how inconsistent Quinn has turned out to be and recognize that he’s the weak link in a championship caliber team, at the one spot where you simply can’t be weak.

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17 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

Perfectly stated. 

Very few are arguing Arch should start. Mostly we’re despondent at how inconsistent Quinn has turned out to be and recognize that he’s the weak link in a championship caliber team, at the one spot where you simply can’t be weak.

I think before this season is over Manning will be the starting QB for the Longhorns. That's my prediction. 

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1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

I know Ewers has been up and down, but big thanks to him for transferring to Texas...

It's made a huge difference in our roster and results the last two years -- great players want to play at Texas again!!!  🤘

In my opinion he’s gotten more out of us than us out of him.

i get the sentiment, but I disagree that he’s made a huge difference in the roster.  Sark, NIL and all the efforts that the unknown persons made, fans and other players that really define the program more than him.

That is not to say he hasn’t made a positive impact on the roster but just like the wins he’s as much the beneficiary because of the name on the front of the jersey and the program.

Guys like Alfred Collins and Vernon Broughton and Jahdae Barron have had massive impacts this season and beat him to campus all the while showing some patience and perseverance.

While QB may be the most important position, you simply will not win unless the totality of the parts are pretty damn good.  People are enamored with the trait of his arm but at the end of the day, he’s not making more, better throws than other QBs.  But he doesn’t have to do so.  90% of the throws are pretty basic, every day throws.  Against the Aggies, he made several off schedule plays that were difference makers.  That’s a big plus for what we need out of him.

So I look forward to this thread if we win it all but will be annoyed at the same time.  We simply have the best, deepest roster we’ve had in my lifetime.

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10 hours ago, F250 said:

We are more likely to win with Quinn.

Unless you think Satk doesn't give a fuck about winning and keeping his job, it makes no sense to switch to QB2 at this point.

The reason to give Arch more playing time isn't to beat Georgia, it's to beat Oregon. We can stumble along and pray that Quinn doesn't hit a wall, but if/when that happens, we're gonna need someone far more prepared than Garrett Gilbert was when Colt McCoy got injured. Does anyone remember how absolutely painful that was to see an amazing defense stop Alabama time and again only to see Gilbert stink up the field on offense. It wasn't his fault, it was Mack's. It wasn't Colt's fault, he was injured.

The same thing is at play with Quinn. He's injured, and that injury (injuries) seem to have hobbled every aspect of his game, especially the ability to tuck it up (or should I say the desire to tuck it up) and run. Has anyone mentioned when he tiptoed down the right sideline and then sort of gave up on the run... because not only had he made first down yardage, he had an open field ahead of him... but I'm pretty sure you can see him let up and lean right only to realize a millisecond later he could be in the end zone in five seconds. But too late, his momentum with that step carried him out of bounds. That's fucking mental. It isn't his fault, he's injured.

I don't want to see another game like that loss to Alabama... or last year's Washington game. We shoulda won that game. We've got a team capable of winning it all, just not with an injury prone, injured Quinn. To battle for an entire season and to get all the way there, only to lay a turd. Fuck that. Sark needs to work Arch into the offense beginning Saturday.

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Ewers has frustrated me many times this season, but I’ve come around to the position that we can win with him when he’s good. Incorporating Manning doesn’t hurt. If it came down to Quinn needing to make a long, game winning touchdown drive or Bert Auburn needing to make a 45+ yard FG to win a championship, I’m putting my money on Ewers in that situation. I have no real faith in our kicking game with high stakes on the line. 

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