QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[Burt Macklin 19,149]

1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

With what we have seen so far this season, I trust Helm was right more than Ewers. Ewers threw it away because he saw pressure, if he pump fakes the safety, Helm has a massive gain.

In a sea of dumb takes, HotownHown got worried he'd get left out. It was an obvious hot read where Helm was supposed to turn once he didn't have anyone lined up over him.  You can't assume before the snap that you'll have time pump fake and throw deep on third and long with 5 on 5 blocking. These things are called pre-snap, and this was absolutely a hot read pre-snap. Quinn certainly could've thrown it better, but if Helm gets the hot read he very likely catches it and gets the first down. 

Edited yesterday at 06:14 PM by Burt Macklin

[Thatguy 9,075]

1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

With what we have seen so far this season, I trust Helm was right more than Ewers. Ewers threw it away because he saw pressure, if he pump fakes the safety, Helm has a massive gain.

You play football? When they bring extra guys the receivers, TE included, are taught to recognize that and alter their routes. That is built into literally every offensive passing scheme out there. What route they alter to is based on what coverage they see. They brought pressure and the remaining coverage left was to the inside. So guess where Helm is supposed to run to? Open grass and present himself quickly. This is high school level "how to deal with a zone blitz" football. The blitz was largely picked up but you don't wait to see if that's going to happen. That's not how that works. 

[BurntOrange&White 40,748]

34 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I lean bit more to the later. Texas only has basically 1 Rb they trust. Love what Wisner has done, but he has 59 carries the last 2 weeks (63 touches). That is lot of work for any RB, but insane for one that likely does not weigh 200 pounds. Feels like that is based on necessity, not trying to get the run game going. 

If we win saturday he'll get 3.5 weeks of rest

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[Tex Long 4,513]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

If we win saturday he'll get 3.5 weeks of rest

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Rest? No. Recovery, yes.

[Codaxx 5,992]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

If we win saturday he'll get 3.5 weeks of rest

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understand, but his workload is a concern.  I hope my fears turnout to be unwarranted. 

[WinningIsHard 4,163]

23 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

I saw all that buddy. I saw him throw an ill advised ball trying to fit one over top and almost get picked. I saw him fit a ball in to Helm and had the DB been a step quicker he likely picks that. I saw him get a ball batted at the line and get picked. And I see those same plays every Saturday in every game. I also saw him make a couple throws that said "he is him" too that a lot of QBs can't make. Do I wish the guy didn't have turnovers? Of course I do. We all do. But if you want a guy who is going to make that throw to Blue on the road in that situation he is also going to make errors trying to make a play too. Yall are going to be pissed at this dude until he leaves if you think he isn't going to make errors. 

The other thing that you don't understand is that Sark takes his foot off the throttle when he is up. It's who he is. He was doing the same thing in year one before QE even got here. Last year he proved he could open the offense up in the second half. To make my point when Quinn fumbled he was looking to throw an out route to Juan Davis. We are never serious about offense when Juan Davis is running pass routes. Even in the Georgia game Sark started opening it up in the 2nd half but we waited to long to do it. 

 

There's a great point in here about next year that is going to really piss people off. Arch is going to make a ton of mistakes and some of them are going to be costly. It's what qb's do that are learning. He is way more aggressive than quinn and not nearly as lethal at 0-15 yards. The first pick six he throws that makes the game close or even causes us to lose the lead is going to be a sight to behold. 

[UTEE97 3,774]

Man, it feels like Quinn has a strong PR team working overtime on Surly. I am not sure if the NIL money is well spent though. It doesn't  help his draft stock or our ability to win the rest of the games this season. We want the team (including Quinn) to play better. The fans also need a place to vent (aka bitch). Don't take that away from us!

[closetohumping 17,575]

20 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

There's a great point in here about next year that is going to really piss people off. Arch is going to make a ton of mistakes and some of them are going to be costly. It's what qb's do that are learning. He is way more aggressive than quinn and not nearly as lethal at 0-15 yards. The first pick six he throws that makes the game close or even causes us to lose the lead is going to be a sight to behold. 

I just hope you guys are as forgiving with Arch as you are with Quinn

[Skipper 6,340]

1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

Ark- 56%

UK - 60%

A&M- 64% 

there are 134 teams in CFB. 89 teams throw the ball more that 45%. 16 teams are at 40% or less. 

Now do the first half numbers when we didn't have a double digit lead and intentionally running clock to skew run heavy in the 2nd half (at like 6+ yards a clip at that).   Quinn played fine against A&M.  The 2nd quarter was elite level QB play.  If he can bottle that we will win a national championship.   The 3rd quarter drive before the pick 6 was fantastic with good reads on passes and balanced running game.   Personally I had bigger issues with the play calls on the 2 turnovers.  Once we got it to 3rd and 2 on the pick 6, we absolutely should have ran the ball twice if necessary and lived with the result.  There was no way A&M was driving 95 yards on our D.  I have no doubt Sark wishes he had that one back. Then, I didn't like the run with Quinn the next series (although he has to do a better job of protecting the ball).  But if we call a run play before the pick 6 and score on that drive to go up 24-0, this thread has a totally different vibe.

[Codaxx 5,992]

8 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I just hope you guys are as forgiving with Arch as you are with Quinn

This makes the assumption that people judge to first time starters that same way they react to 3rd year starters. This is basically, people are going to be pissed when Arch makes the same mistakes that Quinn does with 30 less starts.

[Codaxx 5,992]

8 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Now do the first half numbers when we didn't have a double digit lead and intentionally running clock to skew run heavy in the 2nd half (at like 6+ yards a clip at that).   Quinn played fine against A&M.  The 2nd quarter was elite level QB play.  If he can bottle that we will win a national championship.   The 3rd quarter drive before the pick 6 was fantastic with good reads on passes and balanced running game.   Personally I had bigger issues with the play calls on the 2 turnovers.  Once we got it to 3rd and 2 on the pick 6, we absolutely should have ran the ball twice if necessary and lived with the result.  There was no way A&M was driving 95 yards on our D.  I have no doubt Sark wishes he had that one back. Then, I didn't like the run with Quinn the next series (although he has to do a better job of protecting the ball).  But if we call a run play before the pick 6 and score on that drive to go up 24-0, this thread has a totally different vibe.

you do 1st half numbers. I said A&M was the perfect Quinn game. Struggled early, Heisman level 2Q, and turned the ball over the 2nd half. Everyone understands Quinn has the potential to be elite. The issue with Quinn is volatility and consistency. You never know what Quinn will show up in a game. You can say that about every quarter. He can be elite at times and absolutely wretched.

 

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The 3rd quarter drive before the pick 6 was fantastic with good reads on passes and balanced running game.   Personally I had bigger issues with the play calls on the 2 turnovers.  Once we got it to 3rd and 2 on the pick 6, we absolutely should have ran the ball twice if necessary and lived with the result.

so not good reads and poor decision making.

Edited yesterday at 07:13 PM by Codaxx

[Hank_Hill 19,087]

11-1. Second straight conference championship game with the same QB. Second straight CFP appearance with the same QB. I hope Sark makes some changes at QB!

[Pam Cummings 9,718]

2 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

It would be impossible for me to care less about any of our players' NFL or awards outlooks vs us winning championships on the field.

This is something that somebody would only say when they know their guy isn't in the running for any awards. You'd absolutely care if he had the numbers and stats to match up with the other best players in the country and you would lobby for him to win those awards because that would be great for him and for us. Don't be silly.

[UTEE97 3,774]

8 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

11-1. Second straight conference championship game with the same QB. Second straight CFP appearance with the same QB. I hope Sark makes some changes at QB!

Correlation =/ causation

Lost to UW last year because we couldn't make a single catchable pass from near the RZ. Lost to UGA because we just shit the bed. We beat up on some mediocre teams. We are far from perfect right now and I think the moment you stop trying to improve where you're laggingis when the decline starts.

Edited yesterday at 07:43 PM by UTEE97

[Skipper 6,340]

24 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

you do 1st half numbers. I said A&M was the perfect Quinn game. Struggled early, Heisman level 2Q, and turned the ball over the 2nd half. Everyone understands Quinn has the potential to be elite. The issue with Quinn is volatility and consistency. You never know what Quinn will show up in a game. You can say that about every quarter. He can be elite at times and absolutely wretched.

 

so not good reads and poor decision making.

I don't need to do the numbers to know we ran a balanced offense in the first half last 2 weeks.  You are the one pulling stats to try to make some point we don't have a balanced offense when you know damn well we ran it (successfully) at a significantly higher than normal clip to protect double digit leads the last 2 weeks. Like I said, in hindsight we should have run it more in the 2nd half last week.  I

[Codaxx 5,992]

1 minute ago, Skipper said:

I don't need to do the numbers to know we ran a balanced offense in the first half last 2 weeks.  You are the one pulling stats to try to make some point we don't have a balanced offense when you know damn well we ran it (successfully) at a significantly higher than normal clip to protect double digit leads the last 2 weeks. Like I said, in hindsight we should have run it more in the 2nd half last week.  I

The numbers are the numbers. You can believe them or not. If you want to do the work and actually prove there is a flaw in them, I welcome you

[UTEE97 3,774]

1 minute ago, Skipper said:

I don't need to do the numbers to know we ran a balanced offense in the first half last 2 weeks.  You are the one pulling stats to try to make some point we don't have a balanced offense when you know damn well we ran it (successfully) at a significantly higher than normal clip to protect double digit leads the last 2 weeks. Like I said, in hindsight we should have run it more in the 2nd half last week.  I

I think our inability to complete a third down pass to extend a drive late in the game is a problem. I have no problem with running the clock with a heavy dose of runs in the second half but our passing game can't completely disappear. That's  been a problem for several weeks.

[Hank_Hill 19,087]

3 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

Correlation =/ causation

Lost to UW last year because we couldn't make a single catchable pass from near the RZ. Lost to UGA because we just shit the bed. We beat up on some mediocre teams. We are far from perfect right now and I think the moment you stop trying to improve where you're laggingis when the decline starts.

The coach that brought us back to the top of college football disagrees with you! 

[joeycovers 397]

3 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

Ewers was supposed to be a Heisman candidate. He was definitely supposed to play well enough to get to the presentation ceremony. And he was definitely supposed to be a first round pick after this year. None of that has come to fruition and we're to the point where we actually have to worry about the guy coming back next year and ruining our plans with Arch. The fact that we are sitting here with one loss, having made the playoffs, and are in the SEC title game despite all of this is not good for Quinn, imo. He underperformed. Even worse, he solidified himself as "guy with injury concerns".

If Quinn is yours or anybody else’s biggest concern with this team consider that a blessing. Kid plays his best when the lights are the brightest. 
 

He’s not coming back to school. Just stop with that narrative. 

[Skipper 6,340]

24 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

The numbers are the numbers. You can believe them or not. If you want to do the work and actually prove there is a flaw in them, I welcome you

JFC dude.  It's called watching the fucking games where we were obviously milking clock in the 2nd half the last 2 weeks.  So yeah, that is the fucking flaw if you are trying to use pass/run splits to prove a point about the offense generally.  LOL

Do you really not understand ball enough to understand "throw more when behind and run more when ahead"?

[Hank Kingsley 21,168]

59 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

There's a great point in here about next year that is going to really piss people off. Arch is going to make a ton of mistakes and some of them are going to be costly. It's what qb's do that are learning. He is way more aggressive than quinn and not nearly as lethal at 0-15 yards. The first pick six he throws that makes the game close or even causes us to lose the lead is going to be a sight to behold. 

I don't believe Arch will make a "ton" of mistakes. He's been in Sark's system for almost two years, and based on the limited action we've seen so far, he's already learning from his mistakes. After being way too aggressive and loose with the ball vs. ULM, he played disciplined vs. Miss State the next week. The problem with Ewers is after 30+ starts in 3 years he will make horrible decisions that look like a RS freshman out there. I don't understand why people are scared of Arch making stupid plays when we see it at some point every week with Ewers. Most great QBs get better throughout their college careers.  People are so bunkered in with Quinn love that they forget what QB progression is supposed to look like. 

Will Arch be perfect? Of course not. But he will bring big play capability that will mitigate turnovers for the most part. We will see games next year where he throws for 300+, 4 TDs, and 2 INTs. And rightly, no one will bitch about it when we score 40-50 points and put up 500+ yards of total offense. 

 

[Skipper 6,340]

27 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

I think our inability to complete a third down pass to extend a drive late in the game is a problem. I have no problem with running the clock with a heavy dose of runs in the second half but our passing game can't completely disappear. That's  been a problem for several weeks.

The only play I can think of off the top of my head the last few weeks where this was a problem in the 2nd half was the 3rd down pass to Bond last week about halfway through the 4th and that was pretty clearly on Bond fucking up the route.  It was wide open and Quinn through it to the correct spot.  I'm sure there are others I'm not thinking of, but we've run the ball really well in the 4th quarter the past 3 games.

[UTEE97 3,774]

1 minute ago, Skipper said:

The only play I can think of off the top of my head the last few weeks where this was a problem in the 2nd half was the 3rd down pass to Bond last week about halfway through the 4th and that was pretty clearly on Bond fucking up the route.  It was wide open and Quinn through it to the correct spot.  I'm sure there are others I'm not thinking of, but we've run the ball really well in the 4th quarter the past 3 games.

Sark gave up on pass plays after they failed early in the third quarter. The run plays are working but they are not working well enough to score points in the second half. When we play UGA or in the playoffs, we can't coast through the second half like we have been able to do against mediocre teams. I see Quinn as executing at a high level when things are going well or when the pressure is not too much. He has one or two bad drives in the second half, then everything goes to shit and the passing game just can't just recover. It's been a pattern. Stating W/L records, doesn't nullify this glaring issue that's most likely to limit our ceiling.

[HtownHorn 14,981]

8 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I don't believe Arch will make a "ton" of mistakes. He's been in Sark's system for almost two years, and based on the limited action we've seen so far, he's already learning from his mistakes. After being way too aggressive and loose with the ball vs. ULM, he played disciplined vs. Miss State the next week. The problem with Ewers is after 30+ starts in 3 years he will make horrible decisions that look like a RS freshman out there. I don't understand why people are scared of Arch making stupid plays when we see it at some point every week with Ewers. Most great QBs get better throughout their college careers.  People are so bunkered in with Quinn love that they forget what QB progression is supposed to look like. 

Will Arch be perfect? Of course not. But he will bring big play capability that will mitigate turnovers for the most part. We will see games next year where he throws for 300+, 4 TDs, and 2 INTs. And rightly, no one will bitch about it when we score 40-50 points and put up 500+ yards of total offense. 

 

Mac Jones is the perfect example. He played in Sarkisian's system in 2019-2020. In 2019, he backed up Tua and started 2 games for an injured Tua. The Auburn game and the bowl game, he went 1-1 in those games. Then he proceeded to rip through the 2020 season en route to an undefeated season with eye popping stats. I am guessing Manning performs more like 2020 Mac Jones.

[Hank_Hill 19,087]

18 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

 

Will Arch be perfect? Of course not. But he will bring big play capability that will mitigate turnovers for the most part. We will see games next year where he throws for 300+, 4 TDs, and 2 INTs. And rightly, no one will bitch about it when we score 40-50 points and put up 500+ yards of total offense. 

 

You underestimate this place. People found shit to bitch about in here after this stat line a couple weeks ago:

[closetohumping 17,575]

1 hour ago, Hank_Hill said:

11-1. Second straight conference championship game with the same QB. Second straight CFP appearance with the same QB. I hope Sark makes some changes at QB!

It’s like a pitcher having a 5 era but a winning record.  

3 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

You underestimate this place. People found shit to bitch about in here after this stat line a couple weeks ago:

And since this game we’ve scored 17 second half points.  

[HtownHorn 14,981]

3 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

It’s like a pitcher having a 5 era but a winning record.  

[B00M 6,604]

Quinn’s single biggest issue this year: turn-downs. Refusing to throw the ball at open receivers when Sark dials up a winner. 

 

[Hank_Hill 19,087]

9 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

 

And since this game we’ve scored 17 second half points.  

Dang. Surely we’re 0-3 since then.

[BurntOrange&White 40,748]

1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said:

Dang. Surely we’re 0-3 since then.

only scoring 17 second half points in 3 games is a huge fucking deal man....shit like that won't win you titles.

Edited 22 hours ago by BurntOrange&White

[WinningIsHard 4,163]

29 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I don't believe Arch will make a "ton" of mistakes. He's been in Sark's system for almost two years, and based on the limited action we've seen so far, he's already learning from his mistakes. After being way too aggressive and loose with the ball vs. ULM, he played disciplined vs. Miss State the next week. The problem with Ewers is after 30+ starts in 3 years he will make horrible decisions that look like a RS freshman out there. I don't understand why people are scared of Arch making stupid plays when we see it at some point every week with Ewers. Most great QBs get better throughout their college careers.  People are so bunkered in with Quinn love that they forget what QB progression is supposed to look like. 

Will Arch be perfect? Of course not. But he will bring big play capability that will mitigate turnovers for the most part. We will see games next year where he throws for 300+, 4 TDs, and 2 INTs. And rightly, no one will bitch about it when we score 40-50 points and put up 500+ yards of total offense. 

 

This sounds fantastic while being fantastical. You have absolutely no idea if we will do those things with Arch. We lose two or three OL with a massive amount of experience. Our only wr who has legit big play potential anywhere on the field and a top 3 TE in the country. 50 points and 500 yards of offense...you hate quinn so much you're turning into an aggy over arch. 

[Levi 2,623]

14 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

Sark gave up on pass plays after they failed early in the third quarter. The run plays are working but they are not working well enough to score points in the second half. When we play UGA or in the playoffs, we can't coast through the second half like we have been able to do against mediocre teams. I see Quinn as executing at a high level when things are going well or when the pressure is not too much. He has one or two bad drives in the second half, then everything goes to shit and the passing game just can't just recover. It's been a pattern. Stating W/L records, doesn't nullify this glaring issue that's most likely to limit our ceiling.

This is just disingenuous from the aggy game perspective. The passing game did not disappear in the second half. Both drives where he eventually turned it over were good drives. Bad Ewers in the second half doesn’t make it past the 50. The focus should be that Ewers kept us from finishing good drives(that he had a role in), with the turnovers. It shouldn’t be that he was keeping us from having a good drive in the second half. The tipped ball where the wr falls down and corner gets an easy assisted pick six— It sucks but it happens. The fumble was completely his fault. I don’t think anyone can defend that and you’d like a veteran qb to be more protective with the ball in the redzone, especially after the previous turnover. Ewers probably had his best second half through the air against aggy. Bond runs the correct route and the game is over. The tipped pass to Helm was actually a good ball and defender was just reading Ewers perfectly. I don’t believe it had anything to do with his arm angle, surprisingly. The rest to of the second half throws to Wingo, Moore, Helm, and Golden(?) were solid. 

[WinningIsHard 4,163]

24 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Mac Jones is the perfect example. He played in Sarkisian's system in 2019-2020. In 2019, he backed up Tua and started 2 games for an injured Tua. The Auburn game and the bowl game, he went 1-1 in those games. Then he proceeded to rip through the 2020 season en route to an undefeated season with eye popping stats. I am guessing Manning performs more like 2020 Mac Jones.

 You think arch is going to throw anywhere near 4500 yards, 41 TD's and 4 picks next year????? That's a hell of a take 

[derpyhorndog 2,577]

8 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

only scoring 17 second half points in 3 games is a huge fucking deal man....shit like that won't win you titles.

It will if the defense pitches a shutout!

Similar to, you know, three days ago.

/s (kinda)

[BurntOrange&White 40,748]

Just now, derpyhorndog said:

It will if the defense pitches a shutout!

Similar to, you know, three days ago.

/s (kinda)

Yeah expecting defense to save the day in a playoff stretch isn't going to cut it....offense and quinn HAVE to step up in second half. Mainly Quinn because running game has been good.

[Hank_Hill 19,087]

11 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

only scoring 17 second half points in 3 games is a huge fucking deal man.

Apparently it isn’t 

[Hank Kingsley 21,168]

4 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

This sounds fantastic while being fantastical. You have absolutely no idea if we will do those things with Arch. We lose two or three OL with a massive amount of experience. Our only wr who has legit big play potential anywhere on the field and a top 3 TE in the country. 50 points and 500 yards of offense...you hate quinn so much you're turning into an aggy over arch. 

. Holy projection, Batman. 

You called out Arch, I answered. Yes, I think Arch is going to be great. Why would I think that? Is it the 13 TDs (9 pass, 4 run) he's had in basically 2.5-3 games worth of action? That Arch has the longest passing TD of the year? That Arch has the longest run so far of any player on the team this year? That he scored a HUGE touchdown for us on his first play of the A&M game? 

He has been fantastic in limited opportunities. 

 

[WinningIsHard 4,163]

2 hours ago, closetohumping said:

I just hope you guys are as forgiving with Arch as you are with Quinn

forgiving? playoffs? playoffs? You are one of the morons who hated PK, and didn't like sark...blah blah blah. I'll defend arch with the same vehemence I have defended sark, pk, quinn, taaffe and etc. Everything he does that isn't up to you chuckle fucks standards I'll be in his thread sticking up for him. He's a longhorn, that's all I need to know to defend him. 

[WinningIsHard 4,163]

1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

. Holy projection, Batman. 

You called out Arch, I answered. Yes, I think Arch is going to be great. Why would I think that? Is it the 13 TDs (9 pass, 4 run) he's had in basically 2.5-3 games worth of action? That Arch has the longest passing TD of the year? That Arch has the longest run so far of any player on the team this year? That he scored a HUGE touchdown for us on his first play of the A&M game? 

He has been fantastic in limited opportunities. 

 

You just skirted him doing all that stuff with the guys I mentioned won't be there anymore. He also will have to do it against some defenses with a pulse. ULM and miss state are barely functioning defenses. If you think replacing helm, bond, banks, majors, williams, conner, blue means arch just lights shit up next year then you're bat shit crazy. 

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 3,139]

Some stupid motherfuckers in this thread.

[Hank Kingsley 21,168]

6 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

You just skirted him doing all that stuff with the guys I mentioned won't be there anymore. He also will have to do it against some defenses with a pulse. ULM and miss state are barely functioning defenses. If you think replacing helm, bond, banks, majors, williams, conner, blue means arch just lights shit up next year then you're bat shit crazy. 

Yes, it will be a revamped OL. Let's see what shakes out but I have confidence in Flood. It will also help that Arch is a legitimate running threat to keep defenses honest. 

 

Edited 22 hours ago by Hank Kingsley

[WinningIsHard 4,163]

1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Yes, it will be a revamped OL. Let's see what shakes out but I have confidence in Flood. It will also help that Arch is a legitimate running threat to keep defenses honest. 

 

to be clear I hope you're right, I really do. I'm just not certain it's a great idea to expect a 5 star phenom who has shown bright flashes to be the best player in college football before he actually is. See this thread for why. 

[High Plains Drifter 11,085]

4 hours ago, Ghost of Shag said:

Don’t be fucking obtuse. Quinn was near the top of the list on any Heisman watch list one could find…Vegas not withstanding. Based on the progress he made over the last few years, that was a completely reasonable line of thinking.

Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit.

 

based on his performance last year (alabama being the one exception) and this year, he should never have been on any heisman watch lists. 

 

[HtownHorn 14,981]

19 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

 You think arch is going to throw anywhere near 4500 yards, 41 TD's and 4 picks next year????? That's a hell of a take 

In his 2.5 games as QB1 projected over 13 games,

Passing: 4191-42-10

Rushing: 426-10

Not that far off. While maybe not much, it will be much better than what we are getting from Ewers.

[High Plains Drifter 11,085]

20 minutes ago, derpyhorndog said:

It will if the defense pitches a shutout!

Similar to, you know, three days ago.

/s (kinda)

 

Georgia, Oregon, et al is not aggy. 

A shut out against aggy feels good. But lets not suck each other's dicks over it. 

 

[Hank Kingsley 21,168]

Just now, WinningIsHard said:

to be clear I hope you're right, I really do. I'm just not certain it's a great idea to expect a 5 star phenom who has shown bright flashes to be the best player in college football before he actually is. See this thread for why. 

I never said he'd be the best player in college football. But it's ok to expect him to really good with his play on the field this year, measurables, pedigree, being coached by Sark, and surrounded by elite talent. I see no reason (yet) to curb my enthusiasm. 

 

[UTEE97 3,774]

41 minutes ago, B00M said:

Quinn’s single biggest issue this year: turn-downs. Refusing to throw the ball at open receivers when Sark dials up a winner. 

 

Yup! He has become too comfortable with checkdowns that help him pad his stats. Checkdowns are fine when nothing else is available, but if you're just staring down your checkdown target and ignoring the receivers getting open for big yardage, that's a problem. You can't win against top tier competition without a few explosive plays. 

[immamac 43,716]

18 minutes ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

Some stupid motherfuckers in this thread.

one of the craziest threads ever on this site. 

[UTEE97 3,774]

33 minutes ago, Levi said:

This is just disingenuous from the aggy game perspective. The passing game did not disappear in the second half. Both drives where he eventually turned it over were good drives. Bad Ewers in the second half doesn’t make it past the 50. The focus should be that Ewers kept us from finishing good drives(that he had a role in), with the turnovers. It shouldn’t be that he was keeping us from having a good drive in the second half. The tipped ball where the wr falls down and corner gets an easy assisted pick six— It sucks but it happens. The fumble was completely his fault. I don’t think anyone can defend that and you’d like a veteran qb to be more protective with the ball in the redzone, especially after the previous turnover. Ewers probably had his best second half through the air against aggy. Bond runs the correct route and the game is over. The tipped pass to Helm was actually a good ball and defender was just reading Ewers perfectly. I don’t believe it had anything to do with his arm angle, surprisingly. The rest to of the second half throws to Wingo, Moore, Helm, and Golden(?) were solid. 

He turned the ball over twice, which led Sark to abandon giving him the ball because he didn't trust his quarterback any more. Without him keeping the ball, there is no passing game. Nothing disingenuous about what I said. 

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1 hour ago, UTEE97 said:

Sark gave up on pass plays after they failed early in the third quarter. The run plays are working but they are not working well enough to score points in the second half. When we play UGA or in the playoffs, we can't coast through the second half like we have been able to do against mediocre teams. I see Quinn as executing at a high level when things are going well or when the pressure is not too much. He has one or two bad drives in the second half, then everything goes to shit and the passing game just can't just recover. It's been a pattern. Stating W/L records, doesn't nullify this glaring issue that's most likely to limit our ceiling.

I just don't think this is correct, at least for last week.  Both 2nd half drives where we turned the ball over were great drives with good mix of run/pass.  First drive pass heavy before the pick six (we should have ran the damn ball at that point).  Next drive more run heavy but with multiple passing conversions.  I don't think we really "abandoned" the pass until the end when we were 100% milking clock.  We were trying to run the clock out before the 3rd and 7 incompletion to Bond for sure (and that was on Bond) but lost 5 yards on 2nd and 2 the play before.  

I just have absolutely zero issue with anything we did in that A&M game offensively outside of the play call on the pick 6.   I thought Sark called a great game other than that.  That was still some shit luck despite the play call.   Then Quinn has to protect the ball better his next drive and then the punt block was just WTF.    But as far as a macro "state of our offense" that is the best we have seen in a long time despite the WTF plays that made the game closer than it was.