QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[Rickylovesweed 15186]

10 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

The problem is we cannot run the football. They were killing the interior of our line. You can't ask the quarterback to be the entirety of your offense. You also can't ask the quarterback to recover from 100 yards worth of offensive calls either.

That's fair but another reason why Ewers isn't a game changer. 

If you have issues running the ball it helps to have a mobile QB. Do you know a big reason why we struggle to run the ball at times? Teams bring their inside LBers to the LOS because they know if Ewers drops back he is zero threat to take off up the middle. 

You can't ask a QB "to be the entirety of your offense" but we are paying Ewers to be a game-changer. He's not that. 

[hookem48 4806]

8 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

It's a screen pass. That was the call. It was never meant to go downfield.

I want to hear Sark talk about that play, I think it was a pass downfield the whole way

[CastHorn 880]

1 minute ago, Rickylovesweed said:

That's fair but another reason why Ewers isn't a game changer. 

If you have issues running the ball it helps to have a mobile QB. Do you know a big reason why we struggle to run the ball at times? Teams bring their inside LBers to the LOS because they know if Ewers drops back he is zero threat to take off up the middle. 

You can't ask a QB "to be the entirety of your offense" but we are paying Ewers to be a game-changer. He's not that. 

Dudes not even a chain mover. Go ahead pick, 8 Yards short of the sticks. Our defense has to be the most experienced unit in the country in defending sudden redzone offenses. 

[satyanash 15215]

The next time you're watching a random CFB game, focus on the QB. Time how long it takes until you see the QB make a throw that Quinn can't make. You won't have to wait very long.

Quinn is insanely limited in terms of the throws he can make and he's not a running threat. This hamstrings our entire offense. He can throw screens, lofted passes, and slants that get plenty of YAC outside the red zone. But when you're in the redzone you need more in your arsenal and Quinn doesn't have it. You need arm strength.

 

[C-Man 27594]

you think he’ll get hit in the NFL?
if I were a GM I’d take him off my board. 

Not a chance I’d draft him off this season.

[Treefidy 1504]

1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

He threw the ball to the other shoulder opposite where the DB was. Moore was looking for it to the inside.

You’re completely wrong.  On that play the OL was in pass pro to the left with the RB and RG screening right.  the play was likely 1st read to the TE who was covered.  
coverage was busted on the Z WR who was open by 30 yards and waving his arms in the corner.  
 

its difficult to process all this at game speed with defenders bearing down unblocked, but an immobile QB spinning around with their back to the defense is not optimal.  Keep your eyes downfield where you can see what’s transpiring, leave the spinning shit to slippery guys who can pull that off like a Kyler Murray type.  

[Thatguy 9154]

Just now, Treefidy said:

You’re completely wrong.  On that play the OL was in pass pro to the left with the RB and RG screening right.  the play was likely 1st read to the TE who was covered.  
coverage was busted on the Z WR who was open by 30 yards and waving his arms in the corner.  
 

its difficult to process all this at game speed with defenders bearing down unblocked, but an immobile QB spinning around with their back to the defense is not optimal.  Keep your eyes downfield where you can see what’s transpiring, leave the spinning shit to slippery guys who can pull that off like a Kyler Murray type.  

we are talking about the throw to Moore in the ez. What are you talking about?

[futureman 22634]

7 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

Hey I know everyone is upset, right now, but now that Josh Allen is engaged to Hailee Steinfeld, who had the hotter wife, Allen or Aaron Rogers w Shailene Woodley?  

Allen 100%

[The_Great_Hornsby 3585]

7 minutes ago, utexas8 said:

So after watching this game, we are winning the national championship with Bert the kicker, Jekyll and Hyde Quinn, and sark calling red zone plays? Ok.

Maybe, maybe not. Depends on if we step on our own dicks (Looking at Ewers and Auburn). That is how good our defense is. Yall are such pussies, if one of those UGA fumbles bounces our way we win the SEC championship and everyone would act like we are unbeatable. We are a great team with flaws. We can definitely win it all, but we can also lose. Enjoy the ride. 

[StassneyHorn 6739]

16 minutes ago, USNALonghorn said:

Neither was my post. Figured I wouldn’t leave you hanging without a reply though.

Yes it was. Don’t be embarrassing longing for an 7-5, 8-4 H back

[futureman 22634]

10 minutes ago, gurt said:

Ewers wasn’t in the top 3 reasons why we lost today,

[hobbes2702 13277]

9 minutes ago, MrBig said:

We can’t score points with Quinn as the QB. That is the point. That’s what is holding us back. 

It’s that simple. The offense can’t score. We can’t swap out the entire oline, or get a new RB corps. We could change something at QB though.

[Treefidy 1504]

2 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

we are talking about the throw to Moore in the ez. What are you talking about?

Welp, thought you were in the dumb argument going about the play from post #18080

 

[Drifterwood 207]

Ewers has been playing well enough for this team to win games, including tonight. He is not playing well enough to win games on his own, and I don’t think he can, based on what we’ve seen.

That said, I don’t think switching to Arch for the playoffs gives us a better chance of winning a championship, even though I think Arch will be better next year than Ewers has been this year.

[Irish Wrist Watch 1465]

My takeaways, in no particular order:

Quinn had his moments of greatness, but alas they came with too many moments of fuck up.

His last interception gave GA a FG that kept us from winning with our final FG in Regulation. It was another shit throw that we've seen way too many times to a receiver who was blanketed.

On our last possession before kicking that FG to tie it up, Quinn threw three shitty passes. REminded me of Washington last year. If the receiver isn't open, he doesn't pull it back in and try to buy time for a secondary receiver - he just puts it up and hopes for the best. On one of those throws, the receiver was open at about the eight. A good tight throw woulda resulted in a first down inside the five or a TD - in either case we would have won outright, but instead Quinn lofted the ball and it sailed over everyone's head - just like Washington.

He got us 16pts in regulation: That's what Quinn does. Sometimes he looks like a scared rabbit.

On our first possession in OT, Sark put in Manning for a quick five, opening the door to an easy first down. On the next first down play, Sark leaves fucking Quinn in instead of repeating what had just worked so well. 

Sark's play calling was too often mediocre. The team made way too many errors. Holding GA scoreless was never an option, and when Sark saw Quinn put up 6 in the first half, he probably should have given Arch a few tries. All we really needed was two TDs. With ARch's ability to run and pass, woulda been easy.

It's time to give Manning a bigger role in our game plan from here on out.

[USNALonghorn 5135]

2 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Yes it was. Don’t be embarrassing longing for an 7-5, 8-4 H back

Ehlinger would not be 8-4, playing for Sark and surrounded by this roster. Try again.

[A’Dam Psycho 1490]

8 minutes ago, hookem48 said:

I want to hear Sark talk about that play, I think it was a pass downfield the whole way

Huh

on what planet do you think that’s a downfield throw?

the OLine not blocking literally tells you it’s a screen 

[StassneyHorn 6739]

Except 

Just now, USNALonghorn said:

Ehlinger would not be 8-4, playing for Sark and surrounded by this roster. Try again.

he absolutely would 

[Thatguy 9154]

1 minute ago, Treefidy said:

Welp, thought you were in the dumb argument going about the play from post #18080

 

Oh that play. Looked like a screen or at best a fake double screen that you absolutely don't call when your line is struggling blocking because it's too slow developing.

[closetohumping 17701]

7 minutes ago, satyanash said:

The next time you're watching a random CFB game, focus on the QB. Time how long it takes until you see the QB make a throw that Quinn can't make. You won't have to wait very long.

Quinn is insanely limited in terms of the throws he can make and he's not a running threat. This hamstrings our entire offense. He can throw screens, lofted passes, and slants that get plenty of YAC outside the red zone. But when you're in the redzone you need more in your arsenal and Quinn doesn't have it. You need arm strength.

 

I don’t even know if this is true.  Quinn does seem to put a lot of air under the ball it from what I’ve seen he can throw the ball really really really far

[Rickylovesweed 15186]

3 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Maybe, maybe not. Depends on if we step on our own dicks (Looking at Ewers and Auburn). That is how good our defense is. Yall are such pussies, if one of those UGA fumbles bounces our way we win the SEC championship and everyone would act like we are unbeatable. We are a great team with flaws. We can definitely win it all, but we can also lose. Enjoy the ride. 

It's reactionary nonsense.

We will also likely get our NFL LT back for the playoffs. We can beat anybody and I would still have us as one of the top 3 favorites to win it all with our defense. 

[HtownHorn 15183]

He just isn't an elite winning QB. Multiple chances to make 1 fucking throw to win the game and he can't do it. Wingo was fucking open and he throws that shit short, just like he has done in every fucking game, and when we pointed it out, Quinn's nut hangers brushed it off, even though we said when he does the same shit against better competition the catches will not be made.

Edited Sunday at 02:19 AM by HtownHorn

[Pam Cummings 9801]

24 minutes ago, n64ra said:

 

This stat doesn't say what you think it does. All those passing yards and you scored 16 points. We're on backup RBs. It's not on them. Quinn needs to figure the fuck out how to punch it in.

[Red Five 41405]

He made some nice throws, but he just limits our offense so much. We've scored 20 or fewer in three consecutive games now, and yeah it's not all on him, but to quote Scipio, "Ewers is the governor on the offense". 

I don't know what it would do re: complementary football, but I'm very confident we'd score more points with a switch at QB.

[Hank Kingsley 21484]

I maintain that Sark's playcalling was the issue over Quinn today. 

What Kirby has learned over the years in the SEC is you have to let your nuts hang to win these games. Sark got way too cute with the playcalling. That shit doesn't work in the SEC in big games. Just drop back and throw a goddamn deep slant for a touchdown instead of running double fake finesse reverses or LOS passes that need to be perfectly blocked in the red zone to succeed. 

 

[MrBig 5573]

20 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

It's a screen pass. That was the call. It was never meant to go downfield.

I believe @Treefidy was talking about this pass with the stupid double fake that led to the sack. The dude was wide open in the corner. If it wasn’t meant to go downfield that’s dumb as fuck. Stop making excuses for Quinn not reading the field correctly.

[TwiceHorn 31865]

26 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

The problem with Ewers is he has major limitations. He's not mobile at all and his deep ball is terrible. 

You know there's a problem when all we can say about Ewers is "he's pretty good in the short and intermediate passing game." We are already limiting the offense when we resort to that being the strength of our offense. 

Especially so with a short field.  We've been pretty abysmal in the red zone the entire time Ewers has been here and that's why.

[Knoxtnhorn 6251]

2 minutes ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

 His last interception gave GA a FG that kept us from winning with our final FG in Regulation. It was another shit throw that we've seen way too many times to a receiver who was blanketed.

That pass was at least 6 yards short of the first down even if it was caught.  Is that on Quinn, the play call, or did GA just play it perfectly?  

[The_Great_Hornsby 3585]

Just now, Rickylovesweed said:

It's reactionary nonsense.

We will also likely get our NFL LT back for the playoffs. We can beat anybody and I would still have us as one of the top 3 favorites to win it all with our defense. 

This x1000. It is a hard pill to swallow to lose, but we are positioned better after that loss in terms of winning it all than if we had won, especially given the fact that it wasnt a demoralizing loss (the team will feel they shouldve won this game). 

The playoff system is so fucked up that we are sitting pretty to be playing football in mid January. 

[Thatguy 9154]

1 minute ago, MrBig said:

I believe @Treefidy was talking about this pass with the stupid double fake that led to the sack. The dude was wide open in the corner. If it wasn’t meant to go downfield that’s dumb as fuck. Stop making excuses for Quinn not reading the field correctly.

So now you are blaming Quinn for running the play Sark called. Lol. Brilliant.

[BurntOrange&White 41342]

5 minutes ago, Drifterwood said:

Ewers has been playing well enough for this team to win games, including tonight. He is not playing well enough to win games on his own, and I don’t think he can, based on what we’ve seen.

That said, I don’t think switching to Arch for the playoffs gives us a better chance of winning a championship, even though I think Arch will be better next year than Ewers has been this year.

Switching to Arch for playoffs doesn't give a worse chance either.

[OU Sucks 9245]

Haynes Fucking King went 26/36 for 303 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, and 110 rushing yards against UGA, with lesser talent all around him. Who would prefer Quinn over Haynes Fucking King, and if so, why is your name Thatguy?

[RichUT 1922]

5 minutes ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

His last interception gave GA a FG that kept us from winning with our final FG in Regulation. It was another shit throw that we've seen way too many times to a receiver who was blanketed.

Quinn's 2nd INT was thrown when we were down 3, and UGA proceeded to give it back to us via the Barron INT so that TO actually didn't hurt us. You could easily argue that it should have, but we got lucky.

Edited Sunday at 02:23 AM by RichUT

[Hank Kingsley 21484]

2 minutes ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

His last interception gave GA a FG that kept us from winning with our final FG in Regulation. It was another shit throw that we've seen way too many times to a receiver who was blanketed.

That shit was on Sark. First down was a Wisner run for nothing. 2nd and long, we run a play action (????)  that was slow developing and ended up being a throw away. 3rd and long, Quinn got desperate. 

I have been VERY critical of Quinn on this thread for weeks. I'm not a huge fan. But it's ok to call out our HC and playcaller. Throwing vertically over the middle was working, and he went away from it. 

 

[utexas8 1691]

I maintain that Sark's playcalling was the issue over Quinn today. 
What Kirby has learned over the years in the SEC is you have to let your nuts hang to win these games. Sark got way too cute with the playcalling. That shit doesn't work in the SEC in big games. Just drop back and throw a goddamn deep slant for a touchdown instead of running double fake finesse reverses or LOS passes that need to be perfectly blocked in the red zone to succeed. 
 

Yeah he did it in Austin I think threw it on 3rd down when he could’ve ran it to run clock but they threw for the 1st and ran out clock. He tried to win it in regulation but kid threw a pick. Meanwhile, you have sark calling fade 3 times and being okay with the field goal. Get 10 yards man.

[closetohumping 17701]

Just now, OU Sucks said:

Haynes Fucking King went 26/36 for 303 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, and 110 rushing yards against UGA, with lesser talent all around him. Who would prefer Quinn over Haynes Fucking King, and if so, why is your name Thatguy?

They weren’t really trying against him!!!!

[NaTeWHO 868]

It's weird how many people are carrying water for QE. He's an average college QB. Why can't that be it? I'm not blaming the game on him, but he sure has hiccups at the worst possible times. Tough player to watch. He'll throw darts between the 20s and then shit the bed for 3 straight plays leaving it up to Sideshow. He'll make an incredible pass where only his receiver can make a play and then throw inside on an out for a pick. He'll move well in the pocket to avoid pressure and then side arm a ball into a defenders forehead. It's maddening. Regardless, the team often wins despite his mistakes, not because of his excellence.

[futureman 22634]

3 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

he absolutely would 

you think Sam would be 8-4 with this team and this coach?

[tx 3 putt 78267]

4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

He made some nice throws, but he just limits our offense so much. We've scored 20 or fewer in three consecutive games now, and yeah it's not all on him, but to quote Scipio, "Ewers is the governor on the offense". 

I don't know what it would do re: complementary football, but I'm very confident we'd score more points with a switch at QB.

 

the weakest link

[naija 2956]

4 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I maintain that Sark's playcalling was the issue over Quinn today. 

What Kirby has learned over the years in the SEC is you have to let your nuts hang to win these games. Sark got way too cute with the playcalling. That shit doesn't work in the SEC in big games. Just drop back and throw a goddamn deep slant for a touchdown instead of running double fake finesse reverses or LOS passes that need to be perfectly blocked in the red zone to succeed. 

 

think this is quite true

[The_Great_Hornsby 3585]

2 minutes ago, MrBig said:

I believe @Treefidy was talking about this pass with the stupid double fake that led to the sack. The dude was wide open in the corner. If it wasn’t meant to go downfield that’s dumb as fuck. Stop making excuses for Quinn not reading the field correctly.

Lol, as soon as he turned around he had two dudes in his face. I genuinely think Ewers is a bad QB, but this is ridiculous to blame on him. 

[mdmost 43704]

You just can't consistently win big games against great SEC defense with a guy who isn't mobile. That's not a knock on Quinn because he is who he is but he's not built for what we need when we need that extra yard and the OL breaks down. You have to be somewhat mobile. Even the backup for Georgia could run on us.

[RichUT 1922]

Just now, mdmost said:

Even the backup for Georgia could run on us.

Every time they went empty set you knew they were running a QB draw, but we never adjusted to it. It went for 7-9 yards every time, including OT. 

[USNALonghorn 5135]

1 minute ago, StassneyHorn said:

Except 

he absolutely would 

Explain to me how a QB that’s much more durable and an infinitely higher threat in the running game would lead us to a worse record this year? 
What passing qualities has QE consistently exhibited that are so much better than Sam’s?

He might be marginally better in the intermediate game, but he’s been far too inconsistent to rise head and shoulders about what junior year Sam showed.

QE’s deep ball is not any more impressive than Sam’s was.

Also, Sam racked up his stats DESPITE playing for Tom Herman’s Neanderthal offense… He played a lot of his games with numb shoulders, as he was asked to play fullback as a QB. 
The sheer fact that Sam doesn’t fall over when brushed by a TE makes him more of an asset than QE has been since the OU game.

[Patrick Bateman 3957]

Quinn played well enough to win today.  He is NOT the reason we lost.  That typed, as I said last week, it's really hard to meet our obvious ceiling or potential with him under center.  Now, the stew is already cooked for this year so have to hope he gets hot, but his inability to really move or run to the point he's no threat on ZR's and the fact he typically will compress the field to 25 yards from the LOS really limits the ceiling of the offense.  Tonight, we got 2 plays or air yards more than 25 yards..... that a really good game for him.  You can't lose that type of game.  Let's hope he gets insanely hot especially on 3rd downs in the playoffs.... He wasn't perfect and he still takes bad sacks.  But, he's not the reason we lost today and he was good enough to win.  Too bad the coaching staff wasn't.

Edited Sunday at 02:29 AM by Patrick Bateman

[futureman 22634]

1 minute ago, mdmost said:

You just can't consistently win big games against great SEC defense with a guy who isn't mobile.

that’s not true at all.  you do have to have a good qb though. 

[StassneyHorn 6739]

1 minute ago, futureman said:

you think Sam would be 8-4 with this team and this coach?

I could eat a hot pocket in the amount of time it takes Sam Ehlinger to unload a throw. The everse spin for a 15 yard loss or fb lead for a fumble would be the ranch.

[BurntOrange&White 41342]

2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

You just can't consistently win big games against great SEC defense with a guy who isn't mobile. That's not a knock on Quinn because he is who he is but he's not built for what we need when we need that extra yard and the OL breaks down. You have to be somewhat mobile. Even the backup for Georgia could run on us.

This isn't the 2009 SEC 

[F250 29121]

22 minutes ago, gurt said:

Ewers wasn’t in the top 3 reasons why we lost today, but tell me, do you actually believe that when the game is on the line the combo of sark and Quinn is going to go win the game for you? I had zero hope that we were going to get into the end zone on the last drive in regulation or in OT.

Agree. Quinn played well enough tonight.

Top 3 problems tonight were:

Burt

Ref fuckery

Sark

[closetohumping 17701]

1 minute ago, RichUT said:

Every time they went empty set you knew they were running a QB draw, but we never adjusted to it. It went for 7-9 yards every time, including OT. 

We stuffed Stockton a few times.  Dont pin this on the defense