QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[Steamboat1874 4319]

13 minutes ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

We already heard from a credible source (A Surly Poster) that Arch is kicking ass in practice.

So if Sark thinks averaging 7 pts per second half over an eight game stretch is the best we can do, then perhaps I do know more than him. Or maybe he's so busy with all the other peripheral hc duties that he doesn't even know about that statistic. In which case, I guess I and every other person on this board knows more than Sark. Maybe... he can't see the forest for the trees. Maybe Sark is so bogged down in some statistical gobbledegook that he hasn't yet figured out why we can't score... How about 2 for 10 Sark? New stat for you, courtesy of Surly Horns, your new go to site when things aren't going in accordance with your readouts.

Two for fucking ten. Sark needs to get a new barometer for checking QB health. I just listed two new ones for him. I'm glad Ewers is brilliant between the twenties, but Sark just passed up a golden opportunity to make a smooth transition to a new star QB. Last night coulda been Fifty/fifty. May the best man win. Worst case scenario: we lose to GA - last night. Best case scenario, we win the SEC... and a Natty.

He has the same opportunity coming up on Dec 21st. Let's hope he's pulled his head out of his ass by then and figured out how to run up 45 against Clemson. Wait, wait... it's coming to me... Let's stop running completely, giving Ewers even more shots inside the twenty. Who knows, he might kick that completion percentage up to 25 or even 30%..

We're in Orc territory now. Meri and Pippin need to sit the fuck down.

Not sure if this…

Brilliant or stupid but it is certainly entertaining.

[mwaadeeb 1364]

4 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Not sure if this…

Brilliant or stupid but it is certainly entertaining.

I’m going with stupid.

[Lou Loomis 930]

There is pain here

[jimmyjazz 47097]

10 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Today I learned that a QB who has a halftime lead usually wins the game, and when he doesn't he usually loses the game.

Groundbreaking stuff, @BurntOrange&White, truly groundbreaking.

I think we're done here.

[HtownHorn 15244]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

I think we're done here.

You never started.

[Steamboat1874 4319]

6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Today I learned that a QB who has a halftime lead usually wins the game, and when he doesn't he usually loses the game.

Groundbreaking stuff, @BurntOrange&White, truly groundbreaking.

I think we're done here.

True……

And remember…..everything in life is 50/50.

[Thatguy 9348]

2 hours ago, immamac said:

I mean did any of the Alabama teams he coached score only 16 points in an seccg

Did any of his Bama teams run for 31 yards?

[Levi 2660]

2 hours ago, immamac said:

I mean did any of the Alabama teams he coached score only 16 points in an seccg

I think we should be scoring more no doubt but the ‘21 class from Bama had 5 offensive first rounders. The covid year was 4. 2 first round Qb’s and Wr’s in back to back years. Hopefully he gets Texas to that point eventually. 

[Ghost of Shag 2730]

39 minutes ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

We already heard from a credible source (A Surly Poster) that Arch is kicking ass in practice.

So if Sark thinks averaging 7 pts per second half over an eight game stretch is the best we can do, then perhaps I do know more than him. Or maybe he's so busy with all the other peripheral hc duties that he doesn't even know about that statistic. In which case, I guess I and every other person on this board knows more than Sark. Maybe... he can't see the forest for the trees. Maybe Sark is so bogged down in some statistical gobbledegook that he hasn't yet figured out why we can't score... How about 2 for 10 Sark? New stat for you, courtesy of Surly Horns, your new go to site when things aren't going in accordance with your readouts.

Two for fucking ten. Sark needs to get a new barometer for checking QB health. I just listed two new ones for him. I'm glad Ewers is brilliant between the twenties, but Sark just passed up a golden opportunity to make a smooth transition to a new star QB. Last night coulda been Fifty/fifty. May the best man win. Worst case scenario: we lose to GA - last night. Best case scenario, we win the SEC... and a Natty.

He has the same opportunity coming up on Dec 21st. Let's hope he's pulled his head out of his ass by then and figured out how to run up 45 against Clemson. Wait, wait... it's coming to me... Let's stop running completely, giving Ewers even more shots inside the twenty. Who knows, he might kick that completion percentage up to 25 or even 30%..

We're in Orc territory now. Meri and Pippin need to sit the fuck down.

[Cairn Horn88 8502]

4 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Quinn's biggest problem is our overrated oline. 

Bijan didn't seem to have problems a couple of years ago with an Oline not as good as this one.....

[Dahobbs 18290]

2 minutes ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

Bijan didn't seem to have problems a couple of years ago with an Oline not as good as this one.....

I'm struggling to understand your thinking here. Do you think Quinn should be able to rush the same as generational NFL running back? Are you saying our lack of rushing success is because of Quinn? 

[Irish Wrist Watch 1492]

41 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

True……

And remember…..everything in life is 50/50.

Which brings us full circle to my 50/50 strategy for Clemson, born at Surly and soon to catch steam with ESPN Overlords. Give Arch a legit shot. Sark thanks Surly in post Natty interview, Board swell to thousands. Weekly roundup on ESPN. Big monthly membership charges, not applicable to members before the Horns takeover of college football.

[Cairn Horn88 8502]

3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

We scored 19, numb nuts.  And guess what, the opposing head coach won the Broyles Award as a DC and was DC for 4 national championship teams.  Holy fuck some of you are really thick.  Georgia is by far the defense that has our number, assuming that Arch would do better is absolute wish-casting.  Carry on, ladies.

One thing I noticed about Ga's defense was that the linemen for the most part, and the ends, when not rushing the passer, stayed in their lanes....they didn't go berserk when we put one or men in motion and started moving our receivers and running backs....maintaining their lanes prevented any long runs...

[Cairn Horn88 8502]

4 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I'm struggling to understand your thinking here. Do you think Quinn should be able to rush the same as generational NFL running back? Are you saying our lack of rushing success is because of Quinn? 

Of course not...our backs are not as good as Bijan....he made a lot of those yards on his own.

[Hookem10 870]

They won the battle but we won the war. We killed both their QBs. When backup didn’t drop the ball on that hit at the end, it was over. Just their night dammmit. If Carson can’t play against nd and they lose, eyes will open about conference champ games. Btw, goosby was great but I think with kelvin we run the ball better. Maybe get a win , but glad he got to rest. 

[Hookem2147 22007]

Special players beat the Georgia’s of the world. Not special schemes or cool plays. You need your best players to be special and that starts with the most important position on the field.

Georgia has only lost like 5 games the last 4 years and my guess is the opposing QB played a great game in almost every one of those defeats. Same thing when Bama would lose during Saban’s run. It would be because Joe Burrow put on a Superman cape or Deshaun Watson was amazing or QUINN EWERS played the best game of his career.

Not being the reason the team wins or losses and just being along for the ride isn’t good enough for a third year starter at Texas. Everyone wants to try to argue whether he is or isn’t to blame for a loss. The fact that conversation even needs to be had is part of the issue.

[Ricky Butler 2807]

36 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Not being the reason the team wins or losses and just being along for the ride isn’t good enough for a third year starter at Texas. Everyone wants to try to argue whether he is or isn’t to blame for a loss. The fact that conversation even needs to be had is part of the issue.

This is where I’m at. 

[TXpride 606]

2 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

Special players beat the Georgia’s of the world. Not special schemes or cool plays. You need your best players to be special and that starts with the most important position on the field.

Georgia has only lost like 5 games the last 4 years and my guess is the opposing QB played a great game in almost every one of those defeats. Same thing when Bama would lose during Saban’s run. It would be because Joe Burrow put on a Superman cape or Deshaun Watson was amazing or QUINN EWERS played the best game of his career.

Not being the reason the team wins or losses and just being along for the ride isn’t good enough for a third year starter at Texas. Everyone wants to try to argue whether he is or isn’t to blame for a loss. The fact that conversation even needs to be had is part of the issue.

Sark is attempting to build (and arguably already has) a roster that can compete with the UGAs of the world without relying on hero ball from the QB. That was the Mack formula, and we saw how it all fell apart when Gilbert ended up being a bust. We don't want to be the team that occasionally knocks off the Bamas/UGAs of the world, we want to become them. Otherworldly QB play would be nice, but with this defense we really just need like a 7/10. Unfortunately Quinn was about a 6.5 Saturday. If he makes a couple more throws we win.

Edited December 9 by TXpride

[Hank_Hill 19960]

2 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

Special players beat the Georgia’s of the world. Not special schemes or cool plays. You need your best players to be special and that starts with the most important position on the field.

Georgia has only lost like 5 games the last 4 years and my guess is the opposing QB played a great game in almost every one of those defeats. Same thing when Bama would lose during Saban’s run. It would be because Joe Burrow put on a Superman cape or Deshaun Watson was amazing or QUINN EWERS played the best game of his career.

Not being the reason the team wins or losses and just being along for the ride isn’t good enough for a third year starter at Texas. Everyone wants to try to argue whether he is or isn’t to blame for a loss. The fact that conversation even needs to be had is part of the issue.

Sark doesn’t think there’s another QB on the roster that is more that guy than Quinn this season. Is what it is. 

[GTJ1982 439]

First half 228 yards, 1 INT 

Second half 130 yards, 1 INT  with 41 of that on the Moore TD

It's been like this all season looking at his quarterly splits the drop off in the second half is drastic.  Quinn doesn't help the situation but after all these years of the second half collapses just feel Sark is the root issue.

[BevoAbyss 2180]

11 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

a man who is WIDELY regarded as an elite -- perhaps THE elite -- playcaller in college football

One thing is for certain, so far. Sark ain't nowhere near elite in the Red Zone late in games with championships on the line. 

-- Failed with v Washington last year. 

-- Failed twice v Georgia, settling for FGs, when TDs were needed.

-- Never even getting close to scoring TDs to win either game.

There are two coaches who are both 2-0 versus Sark's "elite" play-calling: Kalen Deboer and Kirby Smart. 

And both are in the SEC. That could pose a problem in SEC title games.

Already has. 

Edited December 9 by BevoAbyss

[Thatguy 9348]

On 12/7/2024 at 10:20 PM, RichUT said:

I don't give a shit about the shoulder nearly as much as I care about the accuracy of the ball. Receivers can adjust to catch over either shoulder if the timing and trajectory are right. But when the accuracy is that far off it doesn't make a shit. Both throws were highly inaccurate such that the the shoulder didn't matter. Both throws needed to be thrown more up the field, and Quinn came up short both times. 

Are you ever going to post the throw in OT or are you just going to keep posting shitty takes?

You asked about this ball. Quinn sees that on the receiver break the DB is playing him inside out. It's the receiver who doesn't recognize where the ball should be thrown. This is ball highlighted in red literally thrown right in line with the receiver. If he just looks over the other shoulder its an easy catch. Ball is thrown on the break.

 

 

As a receiver you see the trajectory here that it's going to be over the other shoulder.

Why are you still doing this below?

 

 

 

You guys are constantly griping about not throwing a receiver open. This is what throwing someone open looks like when the receiver is incapable of making any adjustment. Does anyone here think Golden doesn't make this play?

 

Same thing below. We scheme a 1v1 with 26 isolated on a DB. All you can ask for.

 

 

 

Does anyone here think that Blue doesn't make this dude miss in the open field like this? What if Etienne caught this ball?

 

 

 

At some point someone else has to make a play. That is two decent balls that no one made a play on that could've decided this game. But because the guys who were asked to complete the task were below average in skillset required we didn't get it done. Same plays with different personnel and both these are likely touchdowns.

[GTJ1982 439]

Wisner is running towards the sideline and the DB has a perfect read on the play.  Would you say Ewers is included in the players that have a below average skill set?

Edited December 9 by GTJ1982

[Dbeasy 15561]

A thread doesn’t get this long unless there are multiple reasons for the Texas offense struggling, including Ewers, the OL, the play calling, and poor execution.

With all of that said, I believe that for a college offense to be successful against great teams, a very mobile QB is required. Requiring a defense to account for the additional runner puts tremendous pressure on a defense. 

Sark has not historically used the QB much as a runner, except as a change of pace. And he doesn’t recruit QB’s that are strong runners, preferring to pick QB’s who have a strong accurate arm and the intellect to process defenses quickly. 

It’s been encouraging to see him use Arch a bit to run. You don’t have to run the QB a lot, like a Herman offense.  You just need to make a defense pay a few times a half by saving drives with well constructed QB scrambles or designed running plays. It makes a huge difference. The Texas defense always struggles a bit with a mobile QB.  

Given that Quinn isn’t a mobile QB, there is a ceiling to what the offense will do against good defenses. Sark can bandaid it during the playoffs by using Arch on more series. Having Quinn run on purpose just won’t work. He’s injured and injury prone. Bring in Arch for at least two series each half. 

[jimmyjazz 47097]

1 hour ago, BevoAbyss said:

One thing is for certain, so far. Sark ain't nowhere near elite in the Red Zone late in games with championships on the line. 

-- Failed with v Washington last year. 

It was my understanding all the message board experts felt that failure was on Ewers.  Which is it?

[BurntEyes 6271]

21 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

It was my understanding all the message board experts felt that failure was on Ewers.  Which is it?

How did Ewers perform in the redzone against Georgia1 and Georgia2? Could it possibly be that it's a reflection on the HC for chosing to start and continued use of a player that has performed poorly and for the execution by said player? Are both being a factor impossible? 

Edited December 9 by BurntEyes

[jimmyjazz 47097]

4 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Are both being a factor impossible? 

I never suggested otherwise.  In this thread, one page back, I did say "It's not all Ewers" and that there was plenty of blame to go around.

[LTtxfan 49965]

1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

A thread doesn’t get this long unless there are multiple reasons for the Texas offense struggling, including Ewers, the OL, the play calling, and poor execution.

With all of that said, I believe that for a college offense to be successful against great teams, a very mobile QB is required. Requiring a defense to account for the additional runner puts tremendous pressure on a defense. 

Sark has not historically used the QB much as a runner, except as a change of pace. And he doesn’t recruit QB’s that are strong runners, preferring to pick QB’s who have a strong accurate arm and the intellect to process defenses quickly. 

It’s been encouraging to see him use Arch a bit to run. You don’t have to run the QB a lot, like a Herman offense.  You just need to make a defense pay a few times a half by saving drives with well constructed QB scrambles or designed running plays. It makes a huge difference. The Texas defense always struggles a bit with a mobile QB.  

Given that Quinn isn’t a mobile QB, there is a ceiling to what the offense will do against good defenses. Sark can bandaid it during the playoffs by using Arch on more series. Having Quinn run on purpose just won’t work. He’s injured and injury prone. Bring in Arch for at least two series each half. 

Great stuff...

[Fondren & Main 6893]

2 hours ago, Thatguy said:

You asked about this ball. Quinn sees that on the receiver break the DB is playing him inside out. It's the receiver who doesn't recognize where the ball should be thrown. This is ball highlighted in red literally thrown right in line with the receiver. If he just looks over the other shoulder its an easy catch. Ball is thrown on the break.

 

 

As a receiver you see the trajectory here that it's going to be over the other shoulder.

Why are you still doing this below?

 

 

 

You guys are constantly griping about not throwing a receiver open. This is what throwing someone open looks like when the receiver is incapable of making any adjustment. Does anyone here think Golden doesn't make this play?

 

Same thing below. We scheme a 1v1 with 26 isolated on a DB. All you can ask for.

 

 

 

Does anyone here think that Blue doesn't make this dude miss in the open field like this? What if Etienne caught this ball?

 

 

 

At some point someone else has to make a play. That is two decent balls that no one made a play on that could've decided this game. But because the guys who were asked to complete the task were below average in skillset required we didn't get it done. Same plays with different personnel and both these are likely touchdowns.

I agree.  I get frustrated when our WR’s don’t act like the ball is a million dollars.  I see other teams constantly bailing out the QB.  The only guy who does that for us is Golden imo.  The only play he “dropped” was the TD where the Georgia DB was allowed to ride him into the end zone.  Meanwhile, Manny farts on his guy and is flagged.  Fucking asshole refs.

[LTtxfan 49965]

Just brutal comments on Quinn's lack of playmaking abilities...  Starts @9:45 mark

 

 

[Codaxx 6239]

2 hours ago, Thatguy said:

You asked about this ball. Quinn sees that on the receiver break the DB is playing him inside out. It's the receiver who doesn't recognize where the ball should be thrown. This is ball highlighted in red literally thrown right in line with the receiver. If he just looks over the other shoulder its an easy catch. Ball is thrown on the break.

 

 

As a receiver you see the trajectory here that it's going to be over the other shoulder.

Why are you still doing this below?

 

 

 

You guys are constantly griping about not throwing a receiver open. This is what throwing someone open looks like when the receiver is incapable of making any adjustment. Does anyone here think Golden doesn't make this play?

 

Same thing below. We scheme a 1v1 with 26 isolated on a DB. All you can ask for.

 

 

 

Does anyone here think that Blue doesn't make this dude miss in the open field like this? What if Etienne caught this ball?

 

 

 

At some point someone else has to make a play. That is two decent balls that no one made a play on that could've decided this game. But because the guys who were asked to complete the task were below average in skillset required we didn't get it done. Same plays with different personnel and both these are likely touchdowns.

Or throw Moore more to the back pylon and not ask him to change direction and make a hard right.

Or look to your second option on the mesh and hit Wingo on the crosser.

[BurntEyes 6271]

1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

A thread doesn’t get this long unless there are multiple reasons for the Texas offense struggling, including Ewers, the OL, the play calling, and poor execution.

With all of that said, I believe that for a college offense to be successful against great teams, a very mobile QB is required. Requiring a defense to account for the additional runner puts tremendous pressure on a defense. 

Sark has not historically used the QB much as a runner, except as a change of pace. And he doesn’t recruit QB’s that are strong runners, preferring to pick QB’s who have a strong accurate arm and the intellect to process defenses quickly. 

It’s been encouraging to see him use Arch a bit to run. You don’t have to run the QB a lot, like a Herman offense.  You just need to make a defense pay a few times a half by saving drives with well constructed QB scrambles or designed running plays. It makes a huge difference. The Texas defense always struggles a bit with a mobile QB.  

Given that Quinn isn’t a mobile QB, there is a ceiling to what the offense will do against good defenses. Sark can bandaid it during the playoffs by using Arch on more series. Having Quinn run on purpose just won’t work. He’s injured and injury prone. Bring in Arch for at least two series each half. 

This is a great post and highlights something that seems to be missed by a lot of folks in this thread (on both sides).

Football is a game of match ups. A great HC should be aware of this reality and so should informed fans.

Suggestions that a particular player at QB has issues and that the HC should recognize that reality isn't binary.

I said months ago that Sark made the Ewers bed post Georgia1. That not switching to Arch then was a season long commitment by the HC, whether I agreed with it or not. 

I also clarified WHY I thought Sark made that choice, whether or not I agreed with it, I did understand.

So, I acknowledged then and do now that Ewers is going to remain the starter. 

However, I do question why our HC would NOT use an amazing tool in his war chest for the SEC Title game. Particularly, when it was clear that the starting QB was struggling in the red zone. A great HC makes the call, other factors be dammed, to win the game in front of them. The game you're playing and victory therein is the most important factor. Not draft status, not NIL, not pressure from outside sources, not concern about players feelings, but winning the game.

I also recognize that in today's portal world and NIL the Saban type choices are becoming a bit antiquated. However, had Sark made a choice to play Arch more, particularly in the redzone where Quinn and the offense was struggling badly, and we win, the players aren't crying in the locker room. Even better, every team we face now has a bigger scheming issue in the playoffs.

It's not binary. Too many here see it as such. Use the tools at hand, when needed, to win the game at hand, as needed. That's what a championship caliber HC does, and Sark didn’t this weekend nor in Georgia1. Yes, it's a Quinn and Sark issue. 

[BurntOrange&White 41842]

7 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

Special players beat the Georgia’s of the world. Not special schemes or cool plays. You need your best players to be special and that starts with the most important position on the field.

Georgia has only lost like 5 games the last 4 years and my guess is the opposing QB played a great game in almost every one of those defeats. Same thing when Bama would lose during Saban’s run. It would be because Joe Burrow put on a Superman cape or Deshaun Watson was amazing or QUINN EWERS played the best game of his career.

Not being the reason the team wins or losses and just being along for the ride isn’t good enough for a third year starter at Texas. Everyone wants to try to argue whether he is or isn’t to blame for a loss. The fact that conversation even needs to be had is part of the issue.

These are their 4 losses since 2021:

 

2024:

 

2023:

 

2021:

 

 

Now look at our losses to them:

 

 

 

Does anything stick out to you in regards to what the teams who have beat them have that we don't have at the QB position?

 

[BurntOrange&White 41842]

5 hours ago, TXpride said:

Sark is attempting to build (and arguably already has) a roster that can compete with the UGAs of the world without relying on hero ball from the QB. That was the Mack formula, and we saw how it all fell apart when Gilbert ended up being a bust. We don't want to be the team that occasionally knocks off the Bamas/UGAs of the world, we want to become them. Otherworldly QB play would be nice, but with this defense we really just need like a 7/10. Unfortunately Quinn was about a 6.5 Saturday. If he makes a couple more throws we win.

It is the year 2024, you HAVE to have a QB who is a functional runner and not a statue like Ewers. Watch every fucking NFL game, every fucking QB can extend the play and use their legs to move chains when needed. Even pocket guys like Matt Stafford. For fucks sake just look at how well Sam Darnold moves and extends plays.

[BurntEyes 6271]

5 hours ago, TXpride said:

Sark is attempting to build (and arguably already has) a roster that can compete with the UGAs of the world without relying on hero ball from the QB. That was the Mack formula, and we saw how it all fell apart when Gilbert ended up being a bust. We don't want to be the team that occasionally knocks off the Bamas/UGAs of the world, we want to become them. Otherworldly QB play would be nice, but with this defense we really just need like a 7/10. Unfortunately Quinn was about a 6.5 Saturday. If he makes a couple more throws we win.

But he didn't, and we didn't. In this game, Georgia1 nor the Sugar Bowl. 

We don't need "hero ball" from a QB, we need one who can execute in the red zone against good defensive teams. 

Putting in a mobile QB to offset the Georgia advantages on D, in the redzone, where Quinn was struggling greatly, perhaps does. We have evidence supporting, a lot of it, that leaving him in, hasn't and won't. 

Sark has to pull his head out of his ass, stop being cute and smart and use the tools at his disposal.

[BurntOrange&White 41842]

1st and 10 with 41 Seconds to go, Wingo beats his defender and Quinn underthrows what should have been a touchdown for the go ahead. The result of the play was a PI but if the ball isn't underthrown(as I have bitched about on multiple occasions this year on his throws) we win easily.

 

Wingo is already a step ahead of his defender.....just throw it out there and let him go get it....instead underthrown. THIS WIDE OPEN THROW IS UNACCEPTABLE.

[LTtxfan 49965]

12 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

However, I do question why our HC would NOT use an amazing tool in his war chest for the SEC Title game. Particularly, when it was clear that the starting QB was struggling in the red zone. A great HC makes the call, other factors be dammed, to win the game in front of them. The game you're playing and victory therein is the most important factor. Not draft status, not NIL, not pressure from outside sources, not concern about players feelings, but winning the game.

I also recognize that in today's portal world and NIL the Saban type choices are becoming a bit antiquated. However, had Sark made a choice to play Arch more, particularly in the redzone where Quinn and the offense was struggling badly, and we win, the players aren't crying in the locker room. Even better, every team we face now has a bigger scheming issue in the playoffs.

It's not binary. Too many here see it as such. Use the tools at hand, when needed, to win the game at hand, as needed. That's what a championship caliber HC does, and Sark didn’t this weekend nor in Georgia1. Yes, it's a Quinn and Sark issue. 

Yeah, with two weeks to prepare there's just no excuse for Sark to not add in a lot more packages/plays for Arch against Clemson. 

[Navin R. Johnson 882]

I remember a lot of instances where Chris Simms and his receivers were not on the same page. It was explained away and we all hoped it would get fixed in due time.  But for various reasons the team just couldn’t win “the big game”. Are we reliving the Simms era? There are a lot of similarities. After Simms we got VY.

[closetohumping 17803]

5 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

But he didn't, and we didn't. In this game, Georgia1 nor the Sugar Bowl. 

We don't need "hero ball" from a QB, we need one who can execute in the red zone against good defensive teams. 

Putting in a mobile QB to offset the Georgia advantages on D, in the redzone, where Quinn was struggling greatly, perhaps does. We have evidence supporting, a lot of it, that leaving him in, hasn't and won't. 

Sark has to pull his head out of his ass, stop being cute and smart and use the tools at his disposal.

97th in red zone scoring.  That’s ultimately on Quinn or Sark not Tre Wisner

[Codaxx 6239]

2 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

But he didn't, and we didn't. In this game, Georgia1 nor the Sugar Bowl. 

We don't need "hero ball" from a QB, we need one who can execute in the red zone against good defensive teams. 

Putting in a mobile QB to offset the Georgia advantages on D, in the redzone, where Quinn was struggling greatly, perhaps does. We have evidence supporting, a lot of it, that leaving him in, hasn't and won't. 

Sark has to pull his head out of his ass, stop being cute and smart and use the tools at his disposal.

It was an OT game. No single play or player cost Texas the game. You can probably pull a play from 10-15 players and say if they make this play Texas wins the game. You can say the same about Sark on play calling. We also forget some amazing catches (Golden and Bolden), plays (Moore jukes the safety out of his jock and scores a TD), Makuba had so many, etc.

[BurntOrange&White 41842]

2nd and 15 with like 30 seconds left, IDK why the fuck he throws this floater when if he puts the ball in Wingo's number it's a 1st down inside the 5. The window is huge.

For reference Wingo had his corner turned around

 

 

Another view:

 

 

 

Once again another shitty Quinn floater to nothing....When there is enough space to put it on Wingo, safety is not even in position to make a big hit or anything as in the last image he just got out of his break.

If he can't make that throw on a rope to Wingo there he isn't a NFL QB, plain and simple.

 

Edited December 9 by BurntOrange&White

[BurntEyes 6271]

6 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

It was an OT game. No single play or player cost Texas the game. You can probably pull a play from 10-15 players and say if they make this play Texas wins the game. You can say the same about Sark on play calling. We also forget some amazing catches (Golden and Bolden), plays (Moore jukes the safety out of his jock and scores a TD), Makuba had so many, etc.

But if we're running Arch in the redzone frequently there is a real possibility that we don't need the field goals and don't got to OT. 

Sure, there is blame that can go elsewhere, in the end not using a great tool at QB more frequently, is one failure by Sark. 

Are there other areas that need improvement, absolutely. There was a great post (maybe by you) about this teams lack of attention to detail. That's also an HC issue. So is our shittastic ST play.

While there are other aspects beyond JUST the shit performance of Quinn in the redzone in this game (and others) and the lack of using Arch where Sark failed, this is the Ewers thread so I'm focused on that aspect here.

Edited December 9 by BurntEyes

[Hookem2147 22007]

4 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

97th in red zone scoring.  That’s ultimately on Quinn or Sark not Tre Wisner

Having Tre Wisner contributes to the issue. We don’t have a running game teams respect in short yardage or the red zone. It’s not specifically Tre Wisner’s fault but we are asking him to be someone he isn’t. It’s why we are often having to use gadget plays/formations and even introduce the Arch package.

We were actually a really good red zone scoring TD team for about 75% of the season. It really fell off the cliff after the Florida game.

[Ghost of Shag 2730]

35 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Just brutal comments on Quinn's lack of playmaking abilities...  Starts @9:45 mark

 

 

This guy gets it.

If all the remaining teams had the same quarterback, Texas has as good a chance as any to win it all as any and is probably the favorite.

As it is, there is zero confidence in winning a championship, because Ewers is the weak link on this team (along with Bert).

And I do think Sark is culpable, but not for his play calls. He’s culpable for tying his fate to Quinn, a quarterback he doesn’t trust.

Edited December 9 by Ghost of Shag

[BurntOrange&White 41842]

Also @Thatguy analysis of the shitty throw to Moore is just another example of Quinn spot throwing and it determined pre snap. The ball was thrown to the outside and never should have been, Moore beats his man and is wide open if he just throws it to the back of the endzone instead of where he threw to. The safety is not at all in a position to make a play based on pre-snap alignment.

 

17 is opposite hash, he doesn't have the range to make a play 

 

The ball hits just outside of the A on this play.

 

 

It should be thrown in this general area and in this SS you can see how far the safety is. Just an incredibly bad throw 

 

 

Using your own screenshot here, you can obviously see that Moore has his guy beat and is in trailing mode. Moore is just outside the hashes and he tries his best to adjust but it's just so poorly thrown to a spot. So any pass in the general area pictured above is likely an easy touchdown.

 

 

 

Edited December 9 by BurntOrange&White

[Hookem2147 22007]

6 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

Sark doesn’t think there’s another QB on the roster that is more that guy than Quinn this season. Is what it is. 

These coaches aren’t stupid man. They see the film and both these guys every day. We are in way too deep to make a QB switch unless the wheels just totally come off like they did the first Georgia game so I understand why we are in the position we are in. They also don’t want to just throw a redshirt freshman to the wolves during the most important part of the season.

We are going to look back a year from now and know that Arch was the better player all along. It happens in college football.

[BurntEyes 6271]

1 minute ago, Hookem2147 said:

These coaches aren’t stupid man. They see the film and both these guys every day. We are in way too deep to make a QB switch unless the wheels just totally come off like they did the first Georgia game so I understand why we are in the position we are in. They also don’t want to just throw a redshirt freshman to the wolves during the most important part of the season.

We are going to look back a year from now and know that Arch was the better player all along. It happens in college football.

Dude, my post about opposing fans recognizing Arch is better was real. Let that sink in, Georgia fans, asking ME, post the SEC championship when we were going to start Arch. 

Some of us don't need a year to recognize who the better player is and some of us aren't asking Arch to start.

What we are asking for is that our head coach pull his head out of is asshole and use Arch more frequently in the redzone. Use the tools available, and stop being so god damn cute/smart. 

[HtownHorn 15244]

32 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

It is the year 2024, you HAVE to have a QB who is a functional runner and not a statue like Ewers. Watch every fucking NFL game, every fucking QB can extend the play and use their legs to move chains when needed. Even pocket guys like Matt Stafford. For fucks sake just look at how well Sam Darnold moves and extends plays.

You can have a statue, they just need to be elite at processing the game, Ewers is below average at it. WRs are open all the time and he just doesn't see them.

[Codaxx 6239]

4 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

These coaches aren’t stupid man. They see the film and both these guys every day. We are in way too deep to make a QB switch unless the wheels just totally come off like they did the first Georgia game so I understand why we are in the position we are in. They also don’t want to just throw a redshirt freshman to the wolves during the most important part of the season.

We are going to look back a year from now and know that Arch was the better player all along. It happens in college football.

 

This is true. The bed is made. I believe somewhere in this disaster of a thread I said something like "Texas is more likely to make the playoffs with Ewers, but more likely to win the Playoffs with Arch", but that time has passed. Asking Arch to carry the team now isnt fair to him or the team.

[BurntOrange&White 41842]

If Dillon Gabriel is our QB we are undefeated and averaging the most PPG in the country