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5 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

 

This is true. The bed is made. I believe somewhere in this disaster of a thread I said something like "Texas is more likely to make the playoffs with Ewers, but more likely to win the Playoffs with Arch", but that time has passed. Asking Arch to carry the team now isnt fair to him or the team.

Life isn't fair and we aren't asking Arch to carry the team.

We're asking for our dumb ass head coach to USE him as a part of the offensive scheme. Not A (one single) play, but in the red zone USE the tools you have. 

Or don't and suffer the consequences.

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A fun exercise for the CFP teams.....

 

 

Is your playoff team better or worse with Quinn Ewers as your starting QB?

Oregon - worse
Georgia - worse, I'd take Beck over Quinn even though eh has thrown for a few more interceptions because he has made plays off schedule.
Boise St - worse 
Arizona St - better
Penn St - worse
Notre Dame - worse, QB is playing really good down the stretch,
Ohio St - worse
Tennessee - push?
Indiana - worse
SMU - worse, simply because their QB is a fucking playmaker with his legs
Clemson - worse, because Klubnik is making plays with his legs


 

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27 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

It is the year 2024, you HAVE to have a QB who is a functional runner and not a statue like Ewers. Watch every fucking NFL game, every fucking QB can extend the play and use their legs to move chains when needed. Even pocket guys like Matt Stafford. For fucks sake just look at how well Sam Darnold moves and extends plays.

Obviously mobility is better than no mobility. I never said otherwise. I said you don't need hero ball from your QB if your team is good enough. If our team was slightly better (if we traded kickers, for example), we would've beaten the most dominant program in the sport the last 5 years with a 'statue' QB.

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1 minute ago, Vertigo said:

You guys are a fucking beating. Quinn wasnt perfect but played well enough for us to win. Two makeable field goals missed. Auburn hits one of those and this conversation is completely different.

He clearly didn't play well enough to for us to win because he struggled in the redzone.....

 

If he played well enough to win in the redzone then we would have won.

 

 

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Obviously mobility is better than no mobility. I never said otherwise. I said you don't need hero ball from your QB if your team is good enough. If our team was slightly better (if we traded kickers, for example), we would've beaten the most dominant program in the sport the last 5 years with a 'statue' QB.

If our QB could make things happen with his legs to extend drives or be a threat in the red zone we win. Look at my post above at the difference a QB who is mobile can make against Georgia. 

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3 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

You guys are a fucking beating. Quinn wasnt perfect but played well enough for us to win. Two makeable field goals missed. Auburn hits one of those and this conversation is completely different.

There's some mob mentality for sure, but I think people are just ready to get off the Quinn Ewers Experience. A few wtf turnovers, a few batted balls, a few self sacks, and 19 points has become way too common. And it can be hard to watch.

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5 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

You guys are a fucking beating. Quinn wasnt perfect but played well enough for us to win. Two makeable field goals missed. Auburn hits one of those and this conversation is completely different.

He was very good to great outside of the red zone. Obviously, we sucked as an offense overall in the red area. Personally I’m not sure if that is a Quinn issue or a Sark issue, and I suspect we won’t know until next year.

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@BurntEyes

Here are some examples of good play from the first half (I'm displaying these as links because Youtube bitches about logging in when playing these embedded):

Point here is that Quinn did many of the things that you said he didn't. Our offense bogged down because of missed plays and penalties. It can't be all on Quinn. Someone else has to step up to: Golden needs to catch that TD, Wingo needs to catch the ball in general, the line needs to block better (particularly run blocking), we have to stop committing stupid holds that don't even affect the play, we have to grab fumbles when they happen, we have to block on an INT when it'll score a TD, we have to make FGs. 

 

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15 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

You guys are a fucking beating. Quinn wasnt perfect but played well enough for us to win. Two makeable field goals missed. Auburn hits one of those and this conversation is completely different.

The people pinning this on Auburn are just looking at the tied score and figuring we just needed one of the missed FGs to go our way to win. But 1) not giving him credit for scoring 13 of our 19 points, and 2) not giving equal weight to the fact that Quinn and the offense had the opportunity to score 49 points when they got within the UGA 30, and had to kick the field goal or turned the ball over all of those times.  We didn't even sniff the end zone.  So if Auburn went 4 for 6 (really 5 for 6 since one make was wiped away by a dumb penalty), then Quinn and company were 0 for 7 on TDs within the UGA 30.  So it was everybody's fault, not just Auburn's for missing 2 of 6 FGs.  At some point, some blame has to fall on the guy who touches the football every snap and makes the decisions on where and when to distribute it.  We get a TD just one of those times instead of settling for a field goal and the conversation is completely different.  We're going to have to figure out our red zone woes against decent defenses before the CFP because it seems like the only way we can score a TD is if it's a run after catch over 30 yards or we are able to run the ball.

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10 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

You guys are a fucking beating. Quinn wasnt perfect but played well enough for us to win. Two makeable field goals missed. Auburn hits one of those and this conversation is completely different.

Let's remember that the issues most people are bringing up are not specific to the UGA game and were discussed in games we won. So these aren't reactionary criticisms out of nowhere because we lost. 

I agree this was not one of Quinn's worst games. There are 20 things we did wrong, not all on Quinn. But some on here will act like Quinn is just 1 of 11 players on the field and that everyone needs to do their job equally, which is ridiculous. QBs are paid the big bucks (literally, now in college) to make plays. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Let's remember that the issues most people are bringing up are not specific to the UGA game and were discussed in games we won. So these aren't reactionary criticisms out of nowhere because we lost. 

Yup, these are complaints we have been bringing up since Ewers came back and all the slack jawed dipshits just say huehuehue 6-1, 7-1, 8-1, etc and completely dismiss. 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

 

softly thrown floater to the inside shoulder. just a shitty pass but Bond's effort was also ass.....but shitty throw leads to it. dude floats a ball from opposite hash instead of putting zip on it. wild.

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6 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

@BurntEyes

Here are some examples of good play from the first half (I'm displaying these as links because Youtube bitches about logging in when playing these embedded):

Point here is that Quinn did many of the things that you said he didn't. Our offense bogged down because of missed plays and penalties. It can't be all on Quinn. Someone else has to step up to: Golden needs to catch that TD, Wingo needs to catch the ball in general, the line needs to block better (particularly run blocking), we have to stop committing stupid holds that don't even affect the play, we have to grab fumbles when they happen, we have to block on an INT when it'll score a TD, we have to make FGs. 

 

People are hard on Golden. No credit for the amazing catch on the sideline. The one in the end zone he is diving for with a defender on him and an arm between his body and hands. If he caught that, it would have been a great catch.

Yes, Wingo dropped it. The next play Quinn throws a widow maker to Bolden, who amazingly holds on to the ball.

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58 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Having Tre Wisner contributes to the issue. We don’t have a running game teams respect in short yardage or the red zone. It’s not specifically Tre Wisner’s fault but we are asking him to be someone he isn’t. It’s why we are often having to use gadget plays/formations and even introduce the Arch package.

We were actually a really good red zone scoring TD team for about 75% of the season. It really fell off the cliff after the Florida game.

Our Texas OL also has underperformed this year... this current roster even with Wisner as starting RB should run the ball a lot better.

Disappointing... 😕

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1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

People are hard on Golden. No credit for the amazing catch on the sideline. The one in the end zone he is diving for with a defender on him and an arm between his body and hands. If he caught that, it would have been a great catch.

Yes, Wingo dropped it. The next play Quinn throws a widow maker to Bolden, who amazingly holds on to the ball.

I'm not being hard on Golden at all. It would have been a great catch. He played very well in general. But those are the types of plays you have to make at this level if you want to win a championship. Y'all have been dissecting every play made by Quinn and blame him for not being 10% better on this throw or 10% better on that throw. Y'all blame him for not making the amazing play to elevate the team. What I'm fucking saying is if Golden makes that catch, we get that play. You can't have this one way where it is all on Quinn to elevate the team. The team has to elevate him too. Your QB isn't going to be perfect. Quinn is a good college QB, not a great one. And he is never going to be a great one. We have to deal with that. But a good QB can still win at this level if the other people around him make plays. We didn't do that enough yesterday AS A TEAM. 

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Our Texas OL also has underperformed this year... this current roster even with Wisner as starting RB should run the ball a lot better.

Disappointing... 😕

IMO Conner and Majors have never been great run blockers but are really good pass blockers. Majors has improved in run blocking a lot more than Conner has....

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I'm not being hard on Golden at all. It would have been a great catch. He played very well in general. But those are the types of plays you have to make at this level if you want to win a championship. Y'all have been dissecting every play made by Quinn and blame him for not being 10% better on this throw or 10% better on that throw. Y'all blame him for not making the amazing play to elevate the team. What I'm fucking saying is if Golden makes that catch, we get that play. You can't have this one way where it is all on Quinn to elevate the team. The team has to elevate him too. Your QB isn't going to be perfect. Quinn is a good college QB, not a great one. And he is never going to be a great one. We have to deal with that. But a good QB can still win at this level if the other people around him make plays. We didn't do that enough yesterday AS A TEAM. 

To be fair it's a tough catch and you're right championship caliber teams need to make those. The dissecting of plays from Ewers are the easy wide open shit that he flat out misses, underthrows, etc. Your same premise that a championship caliber QB should be hitting wide open passes to receivers that beat their guy.

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1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

I'm not being hard on Golden at all. It would have been a great catch. He played very well in general. But those are the types of plays you have to make at this level if you want to win a championship. Y'all have been dissecting every play made by Quinn and blame him for not being 10% better on this throw or 10% better on that throw. Y'all blame him for not making the amazing play to elevate the team. What I'm fucking saying is if Golden makes that catch, we get that play. You can't have this one way where it is all on Quinn to elevate the team. The team has to elevate him too. Your QB isn't going to be perfect. Quinn is a good college QB, not a great one. And he is never going to be a great one. We have to deal with that. But a good QB can still win at this level if the other people around him make plays. We didn't do that enough yesterday AS A TEAM. 

Hard to say plays like the Golden or Bolden catch didnt elevate Quinn. You are doing the same thing. I have consistently said Quinn did not lose this game, he just didnt win this game. There were probably 20 critical plays in this game. Georgia won the vast majority of the them. That was the difference.

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

@Codaxx thanks.  I can't really tell -- did UGA 6 get his hand on the ball or was the bobble all on Bond?  I'd need to see it on a bigger screen.  (I have it DVR'ed, I'm just not at home.)

Receiver is breaking out on the route:

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Defenders hand is underneath the inside shoulder of Bond here

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Defender hits Bond just as ball is arriving and causes the ball to hit Bond's shoulder pad and pop up

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Just a poorly thrown floater to the wrong shoulder of Wingo that allows the defender to hit Bond and cause the popup INT.

 

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3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

@Codaxx thanks.  I can't really tell -- did UGA 6 get his hand on the ball or was the bobble all on Bond?  I'd need to see it on a bigger screen.  (I have it DVR'ed, I'm just not at home.)

I have seen some people say that was PI. I believe the defender got his hands around Bond. Not sure if he hit the ball or just interfered with Bonds ability to catch the ball. Either way I dont see that as a drop.

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18 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Yup, these are complaints we have been bringing up since Ewers came back and all the slack jawed dipshits just say huehuehue 6-1, 7-1, 8-1, etc and completely dismiss. 

 

 

softly thrown floater to the inside shoulder. just a shitty pass but Bond's effort was also ass.....but shitty throw leads to it. dude floats a ball from opposite hash instead of putting zip on it. wild.

easily could be called DPI    he was their early from the sideline angle you can see the early contact

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2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I have seen some people say that was PI. I believe the defender got his hands around Bond. Not sure if he hit the ball or just interfered with Bonds ability to catch the ball. Either way I dont see that as a drop.

In real time he gets there just as the ball is getting to Bond. In super slowmo it looks like he arrives a hair early. Not definitive enough to warrant a PI.

1 minute ago, TexasGolf said:

easily could be called DPI    he was their early from the sideline angle you can see the early contact

See above.

 

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Or throw Moore more to the back pylon and not ask him to change direction and make a hard right.
Or look to your second option on the mesh and hit Wingo on the crosser.

I don’t think Moore was getting there on the play. Ball was a little far out.
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It was pi. Should have still been caught. Those are the plays made by ga tech to keep it close and get an upset bid. We played without our best olineman. And our freshman somewhat held up for the most part. KB, I WOULD BET IS A BETTER RUN BLOCKER. it is what it is. Wasn’t our night 

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

To be fair it's a tough catch and you're right championship caliber teams need to make those. The dissecting of plays from Ewers are the easy wide open shit that he flat out misses, underthrows, etc. Your same premise that a championship caliber QB should be hitting wide open passes to receivers that beat their guy.

Then give him credit for plays he did make and don't act like it was all bad. I think in any play, with the benefit of hindsight and the All 22, it is possible to find someone for a QB to throw to. It just isn't realistic to expect your QB to always find that in live action. Even great QBs are going to miss those. Quinn was the best part of our offense on Saturday. He just was. Now, were Quinn a VY or Colt McCoy or a Gabriel, would we have been better off? Sure. We would also have been better if Tre were Ricky, Conner were Studdard, Goosby were Banks, Wingo were Roy Williams (in college), Major were Sendlein, and Cam Williams were Blalock. I'm just not sure what the point of that type of comparison is. 

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Receiver is breaking out on the route:

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Defenders hand is underneath the inside shoulder of Bond here

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Defender hits Bond just as ball is arriving and causes the ball to hit Bond's shoulder pad and pop up

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Just a poorly thrown floater to the wrong shoulder of Wingo that allows the defender to hit Bond and cause the popup INT.

 

Have to remove this route and throw from the playbook right now. The competition is too good, Ewers is not 100%, a very long sideline throw, the risk is not worth the reward. There have to be easier ways to get a first down. 

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Bond clearly has the defender beat here but the pass is just so bad and a floater....

Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

Have to remove this route and throw from the playbook right now. The competition is too good, Ewers is not 100%, a very long sideline throw, the risk is not worth the reward. There have to be easier ways to get a first down. 

See above....defender is clearly beat, throw is just really bad

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1 minute ago, Hookem10 said:

It was pi. Should have still been caught. Those are the plays made by ga tech to keep it close and get an upset bid. We played without our best olineman. And our freshman somewhat held up for the most part. KB, I WOULD BET IS A BETTER RUN BLOCKER. it is what it is. Wasn’t our night 

Both are not true.

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7 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Hard to say plays like the Golden or Bolden catch didnt elevate Quinn. You are doing the same thing. I have consistently said Quinn did not lose this game, he just didnt win this game. There were probably 20 critical plays in this game. Georgia won the vast majority of the them. That was the difference.

I agree with all of that. I'm not really directing my posts to you. I'm directing to them folks like @BurntEyes and @BurntOrange&White who appear to blame the whole thing on Quinn and suggest he was terrible and made no plays for us. It is fucking ridiculous hyperbole. Quinn played one of his best games of the season on Saturday. If Wingo plays one of his best game of the season, we win the game. If Tre (and the oline) plays one of his best game of the season, we win the game. If Bond plays one of his best games, we win the game. If Bert plays one of his best games, we win the fucking game. Our offense has been in a funk where we can only get a couple of pieces playing well at any one time. We need more if we expect to play for a championship. 

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1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

Quinn played one of his best games of the season on Saturday.

E Hogan on ESPN 102.7 claimed that Pro Football Focus had Quinn as our highest rated player on Saturday, and I think he said it was Quinn's best game of the year.  I admittedly don't know anything about PFF other than Rod Babers relies on it heavily, so it may be total bullshit, but the statement stood out.

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2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I agree with all of that. I'm not really directing my posts to you. I'm directing to them folks like @BurntEyes and @BurntOrange&White who appear to blame the whole thing on Quinn and suggest he was terrible and made no plays for us. It is fucking ridiculous hyperbole. Quinn played one of his best games of the season on Saturday. If Wingo plays one of his best game of the season, we win the game. If Tre (and the oline) plays one of his best game of the season, we win the game. If Bond plays one of his best games, we win the game. If Bert plays one of his best games, we win the fucking game. Our offense has been in a funk where we can only get a couple of pieces playing well at any one time. We need more if we expect to play for a championship. 

I mean Bert Auburn is directly responsible for a 6 point swing which is easily enough to win the game. 

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2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I agree with all of that. I'm not really directing my posts to you. I'm directing to them folks like @BurntEyes and @BurntOrange&White who appear to blame the whole thing on Quinn and suggest he was terrible and made no plays for us. It is fucking ridiculous hyperbole. Quinn played one of his best games of the season on Saturday. If Wingo plays one of his best game of the season, we win the game. If Tre (and the oline) plays one of his best game of the season, we win the game. If Bond plays one of his best games, we win the game. If Bert plays one of his best games, we win the fucking game. Our offense has been in a funk where we can only get a couple of pieces playing well at any one time. We need more if we expect to play for a championship. 

I never said Quinn didn't make no plays for us. I always point out plays he's made in the past that will haunt us down the road and they are. I generally only point out his clear wide open misses and usually ThatGuy comes along to blame everyone else but Quinn.

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10 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I have consistently said Quinn did not lose this game, he just didnt win this game. There were probably 20 critical plays in this game. Georgia won the vast majority of the them. That was the difference.

Great stuff... this is on the mark.

Texas needs some offensive players to step up more on critical plays to move the chains and score more TDs.  Hope Sark can get our guys to relax, focus and play with confidence again.   

Work some magic Sark and get this offense and team rolling through the playoffs... 🤘

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