QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[closetohumping 17804]

Moore should’ve doven for the ball

[Thatguy 9357]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

At this point right here defender is beat and Quinn still has ball in his hand

Moore is at least and arms length behind the defender.

 

If this ball is thrown more upfield andnot to outside the A as previously pointed out Moore runs underneath the throw for a TD. Instead Quinn rushes a throw to a predetermined spot when he is facing absolutely no pressure.

You are proving his point. If Moore continues coming toward the corner he runs away from the DB. If he turns it vertical he brings the DB back in play. I don't know if you know this but the person on the inside of the curve will get to the end sooner.

[Hank_Hill 20008]

4 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

ChatGPT, why would people who claim to be fans of a team make anonymous posts that insult the key players during one of the best seasons in years? 

A Need for Fulfillment

Criticizing players online can be a symptom of deeper dissatisfaction. Whether it’s frustration with their own unfulfilled aspirations or a general unhappiness with life, some people project their inner discontent onto others. Their harsh words may reflect more about what’s missing in their own lives—purpose, achievement, or joy—than about the performance of the player they attack.

Mine was in jest. ChatGPT ain’t built for me

[Longhornlove 5198]

3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

At this point right here defender is beat and Quinn still has ball in his hand

He isn't beat where you apparently want the ball thrown to which is upfield where the defender has inside leverage. That play design was towards the sideline away from a defender with inside leverage. The reciever fucked up.

[Dahobbs 18304]

3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

It’s a really hard catch even if the route is run properly. It brings the DB back into the play potentially and is still way short.

It’s damn near at the front pylon dude.

The ball is thrown when Moore is at the 10-yard line. And It doesn't land damn near the front pylon at all. It lands 4 yards deep in the endzone and about 2 yards from the sideline. Moore runs the route correctly, he has plenty of opportunity to adjust. The ball is like 3 yards short at most. And no, it doesn't bring the defender back into play exactly because it is thrown towards the sideline. That defender was never getting that far over. 

[Nope 3151]

He is just lazy with detail in general

You’ll probably read that phrase on his NFL scouting report

 

[Longhornlove 5198]

1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

You are proving his point. If Moore continues coming toward the corner he runs away from the DB. If he turns it vertical he brings the DB back in play. I don't know if you know this but the person on the inside of the curve will get to the end sooner.

My sentiments exactly.

[Thatguy 9357]

6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

At this point right here defender is beat and Quinn still has ball in his hand

Moore is at least and arms length behind the defender.

 

If this ball is thrown more upfield andnot to outside the A as previously pointed out Moore runs underneath the throw for a TD. Instead Quinn rushes a throw to a predetermined spot when he is facing absolutely no pressure.

Let me start over. You are proving his point. If Moore continues coming toward the corner he runs away from the DB. If he turns it vertical he brings the DB back in play. I don't know if you know this but the person on the inside of the curve will get to the end sooner. You cut the pic off for a reason so here is the full pic. Ball is tracking to the sideline and if Moore just continues to run where he is pointed in this pic its an easy catch.

 

[hobbes2702 13439]

2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

The ball is thrown when Moore is at the 10-yard line. And It doesn't land damn near the front pylon at all. It lands 4 yards deep in the endzone and about 2 yards from the sideline. Moore runs the route correctly, he has plenty of opportunity to adjust. The ball is like 3 yards short at most. And no, it doesn't bring the defender back into play exactly because it is thrown towards the sideline. That defender was never getting that far over. 

It’s farther than I thought it was for sure. It’s still short though. Both players sucked on that play. It’s really that simple. 
My issue is that one of them is consistently a problem with his accuracy.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11860]

11 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

absolutely no pressure.

lol. 

[BurntOrange&White 41846]

4 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

He isn't beat where you apparently want the ball thrown to which is upfield where the defender has inside leverage. That play design was towards the sideline away from a defender with inside leverage. The reciever fucked up.

Using ThatGuys video

 

The defender is on the inside leverage.....why isn't this ball throw 6 yards out of bounds? Why is the ball thrown up field where the receiver can make a play running underneath it? Afterall the defender has inside leverage.

 

 

 

Oh and BTW, Moore had his guy beat downfield....where as in this video the defender is right there....

 

TBH Quinn would have sailed this fucking pass out of bounds....because of ya know, inside leverage of the defender.

[hobbes2702 13439]

Just now, Thatguy said:

Let me start over. You are proving his point. If Moore continues coming toward the corner he runs away from the DB. If he turns it vertical he brings the DB back in play. I don't know if you know this but the person on the inside of the curve will get to the end sooner. You cut the pic off for a reason so here is the full pic. Ball is tracking to the sideline and if Moore just continues to run where he is pointed in this pic its an easy catch.

 

Neither throw really brings the defender back into play at all. The only way that guy is getting back involved is if the throw is short, which it was, but not as short as I thought initially. It’s a bad throw, it’s a bad route. There is nothing positive to be said about either so not sure why everyone is arguing about a shitty throw pretending it’s not, and a shitty route pretending it’s not.

[BurntOrange&White 41846]

2 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Let me start over. You are proving his point. If Moore continues coming toward the corner he runs away from the DB. If he turns it vertical he brings the DB back in play. I don't know if you know this but the person on the inside of the curve will get to the end sooner. You cut the pic off for a reason so here is the full pic. Ball is tracking to the sideline and if Moore just continues to run where he is pointed in this pic its an easy catch.

Sure, if the ball is thrown to the back pylon.....instead it's severely underthrown just past the goal line....

[Hank_Hill 20008]

Well this thread is about anything but nuance

[Hookem2147 22017]

I’m pretty sure we’ve scored on that play before under Sark in a similar spot on the field (maybe one of the OU games?)

It isn’t the highest percentage call but Moore is open. With our running game and Ewers inability to throw anything but touch passes, basically anything in the redzone has to be schemed open.

Side note in all of this is DeAndre Moore plays hard and blocks well but I’ve thought all year that he isn’t quite there in regards to being a totally reliable receiver. I’m sure the injury hasn’t helped.

[Thatguy 9357]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Using ThatGuys video

 

The defender is on the inside leverage.....why isn't this ball throw 6 yards out of bounds? Why is the ball thrown up field where the receiver can make a play running underneath it? Afterall the defender has inside leverage.

 

 

 

Oh and BTW, Moore had his guy beat downfield....where as in this video the defender is right there....

 

TBH Quinn would have sailed this fucking pass out of bounds....because of ya know, inside leverage of the defender.

This ball isn't thrown upfield it's thrown back shoulder. The receiver has to slow down to catch it. It is literally thrown in the same spot as Quinn given distance. The difference is the receiver adjusted. Simple as that.

[CoTex 1177]

Weren’t there some Wingo targets in the end zone?

could some of yall line out for me how Quinn screwed those up?

Also, where’s the “if arch wasn’t such a shitty holder thread, auburn would have hit” thread?  I’ve got some strong words for that one.

[Hook1997 5509]

Ewers plain and simple doesn’t have “it”, he’s not going to put the team on his back and win a game.  He can lose games for us though.  Best we can hope for is he manages the playoff games well, doesn’t have too many mistakes that cost us and the defense continues to ball and scores some points possibly. 

[Hank_Hill 20008]

This thread is lacking, when’s Derka get free?

[BevoAbyss 2180]

Points per game in the Sark era.*

OFFENSE

2021: 35 points

2022: 35 points 

2023: 36 points 

2024: 35 points 

By this measure, the one that ultimately counts, Sark's offense averages 35 a game. 

-- Regardless of whether the QB is Casey, Hudson, or Quinn for 3 years. 

Zero difference or improvement across 4 years. Seems like a concern.

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*Cross posted from another thread, seems like better fit.

[Codaxx 6243]

26 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

I’m pretty sure we’ve scored on that play before under Sark in a similar spot on the field (maybe one of the OU games?)

It isn’t the highest percentage call but Moore is open. With our running game and Ewers inability to throw anything but touch passes, basically anything in the redzone has to be schemed open.

Side note in all of this is DeAndre Moore plays hard and blocks well but I’ve thought all year that he isn’t quite there in regards to being a totally reliable receiver. I’m sure the injury hasn’t helped.

It’s actually in this thread (Manning to Cook), but now we are changing the design to throw to the front pylon. That is why this thread is a must see. 

[Jkwellborn 7032]

Considering he was an early favorite to be a Heisman Trophy winner and preseason All American and all that I think we can consider his season disappointing.

We’ve been told time and again that those were just our expectations and they were unreal.

[Hook1997 5509]

3 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

Points per game in the Sark era.*

OFFENSE

2021: 35 points

2022: 35 points 

2023: 36 points 

2024: 35 points 

By this measure, the one that ultimately counts, Sark's offense averages 35 a game. 

-- Regardless of whether the QB is Casey, Hudson, or Quinn for 3 years. 

Zero difference or improvement across 4 years. Seems like a concern.

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*Cross posted from another thread, seems like better fit.

If we were averaging 35 points the last four games I’d be really happy…   

[hobbes2702 13439]

5 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

Points per game in the Sark era.*

OFFENSE

2021: 35 points

2022: 35 points 

2023: 36 points 

2024: 35 points 

By this measure, the one that ultimately counts, Sark's offense averages 35 a game. 

-- Regardless of whether the QB is Casey, Hudson, or Quinn for 3 years. 

Zero difference or improvement across 4 years. Seems like a concern.

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*Cross posted from another thread, seems like better fit.

To me this is more illustrative of Quinn being just an average-above average QB. I’ve said in this thread that I think you could plug in basically every other QB in the SEC and get similar results.

[TreatyOak 17344]

45 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Mine was in jest. ChatGPT ain’t built for me

Good to know. Sorry, I've been upset since my morning meeting w @immamac and the Surly HR lady. I've being placed on Needs to Show Improvement program. I've got six months to step up or I'm out. 

  

[HtownHorn 15230]

 

[linux 1785]

17 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

If we were averaging 35 points the last four games I’d be really happy…   

Yeah 35 is nothing to sneeze at, it sucks that there is regression, if we meet Georgia in the Final we pull the plug for Arch, Quinn can explain away to execs that it was a matchups decision.

[hobbes2702 13439]

12 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

 

God damn. That is absolutely brutal. Just no feet, rag arm bullshit on every single throw there.

He is so scared to take a hit it’s unbelievable.

Edited December 10 by hobbes2702

[Had Enough 2111]

24 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

Points per game in the Sark era.*

OFFENSE

2021: 35 points

2022: 35 points 

2023: 36 points 

2024: 35 points 

By this measure, the one that ultimately counts, Sark's offense averages 35 a game

So was curious about the relative strength of opponents defenses ODA @bcftoys.com.

2021 - 45

2022 - 29

2023 - 36

2024  - 31

Not drastic differences there.

 

[HtownHorn 15230]

27 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

If we were averaging 35 points the last four games I’d be really happy…   

That is a little misleading, we are averaging 27.8 against P4 Competition and 53 points against G5 competition.

Our average margin of victory goes from 50 points against g5 to 12.6 against p4.

[Dahobbs 18304]

33 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

It’s actually in this thread (Manning to Cook), but now we are changing the design to throw to the front pylon. That is why this thread is a must see. 

Can we not make shit up please? No one has said that throw should be to the front pylon. And the throw wasn't to the front pylon. It was short, but not that short. Moore ran his route too vertical. If he actually fades to the sidelines, he is in position to make a play on the ball, imperfect pass and all. 

[Codaxx 6243]

2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Can we not make shit up please? No one has said that throw should be to the front pylon. And the throw wasn't to the front pylon. It was short, but not that short. Moore ran his route too vertical. If he actually fades to the sidelines, he is in position to make a play on the ball, imperfect pass and all. 

Quinn missed on this. He made plenty of good ones, this wasn’t one of them. Doing another round 3 on this shit is overkill. Time to pick a new throw to defend or rip apart 

Or explain how Georgia seemed to always have 5 across the LOS on inside zone. They had a really high rate of having 7 in the box vs the run. How they ran a pass rush stunt on 1st and 10 after 2 successful runs on a play action deep shot call. 

 

Edited December 10 by Codaxx

[Hank_Hill 20008]

6 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

That is a little misleading, we are averaging 27.8 against P4 Competition and 53 points against G5 competition.

Our average margin of victory goes from 50 points against g5 to 12.6 against p4.

That’s how most season averages work yea

[Longhornlove 5198]

Question for the haters. The offensive PI and non catch following ply QE's fault too? That pass was perfect against good coverage. Let me guess, he doesn't get credit when he throws a great pass and they don't catch them huh?

FYI, that is a ball going through the hands and no the defender didn't touch the ball.

[Longhornlove 5198]

3 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Doing another round 3 on this shit is overkill

WTF are you here then? Go somewhere else.

[Codaxx 6243]

3 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Question for the haters. The offensive PI and non catch following ply QE's fault too? That pass was perfect against good coverage. Let me guess, he doesn't get credit when he throws a great pass and they don't catch them huh?

FYI, that is a ball going through the hands and no the defender didn't touch the ball.

Film Guy actually knocked the throw. Said inside and a bit under thrown forcing Golden into the defender.  I honestly think solid throw and solid defense. Defender is right on the WR and he has his arm between the body and arms. Not sure Golden comes down with it either way. Good offense and Good defense. Georgia won that 50/50. I think Golden was 50% on 50/50 balls 

Edited December 10 by Codaxx

[Jkwellborn 7032]

Question for the haters. The offensive PI and non catch following ply QE's fault too? That pass was perfect against good coverage. Let me guess, he doesn't get credit when he throws a great pass and they don't catch them huh?

FYI, that is a ball going through the hands and no the defender didn't touch the ball.

That was a dang good throw, but I’m not gonna shit on the wr for not making the catch.

[Hank_Hill 20008]

1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

 I think Golden was 50% on 50/50 balls 

Would’ve been better with Arch throwing 

[Longhornlove 5198]

1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

Film Guy actually knocked the throw. Said inside and a bit under thrown forcing Golden into the defender.  I honestly think solid throw and solid defense. Defender is right on the WR and he has his arm between the body and arms. Not sure Golden comes down with it either way. Good offense and Good defense. Georgia one the 50/50. I think Golden was 50% on 50/50 balls 

Go watch the film on the replay, it is in slow motion. the ball was through the hands before the defender touched the receiver. Regardless, still a tough catch. Fuck the film guy, that ball hit the hands of the receiver in stride.

[closetohumping 17804]

2 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Would’ve been better with Arch throwing 

Arch is more of a Tebow type bro.  But not clutch

[Longhornlove 5198]

4 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

That was a dang good throw, but I’m not gonna shit on the wr for not making the catch.

I ain't really trying to shit on him but a good receiver will tell you that if it hits their hands he should have caught it. Anyone who thinks that is a terrible throw is an idiot.

[Dahobbs 18304]

11 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Quinn missed on this. He made plenty of good ones, this wasn’t one of them. Doing another round 3 on this shit is overkill. Time to pick a new throw to defend or rip apart 

Or explain how Georgia seemed to always have 5 across the LOS on inside zone. They had a really high rate of having 7 in the box vs the run. How they ran a pass rush stunt on 1st and 10 after 2 successful runs on a play action deep shot call. 

 

Yes. He missed it. But Moore also ran a poor route. A lot shit went wrong there.

They really knew us well it seemed. I would have thought we mixed it up after the first go around, but apparently not. We may still be tipping our runs somehow. 

[Had Enough 2111]

2 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Go watch the film on the replay, it is in slow motion. the ball was through the hands before the defender touched the receiver. Regardless, still a tough catch. Fuck the film guy, that ball hit the hands of the receiver in stride.

In stride?  You’d look pretty awkward with your hips dropped and knees bent like that if you normally walked in that manner.

It was catchable for sure but a great pass would have actually been in stride.

[BurntOrange&White 41846]

12 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Question for the haters. The offensive PI and non catch following ply QE's fault too? That pass was perfect against good coverage. Let me guess, he doesn't get credit when he throws a great pass and they don't catch them huh?

FYI, that is a ball going through the hands and no the defender didn't touch the ball.

The difference is "Quinn haters" can admit to good throws where as the "Quinn suckers" cannot admit to bad throws. 

 

That was one of his better throws and should have been caught...You can see Bond's elbows and realize why it's not caught.....didn't make a basket.

[Longhornlove 5198]

 

 

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

The difference is "Quinn haters" can admit to good throws where as the "Quinn suckers" cannot admit to bad throws.

I have no problem admitting when he has a bad throw, the difference is I don't expect him to make every throw perfect.

[BurntOrange&White 41846]

Just now, Longhornlove said:

 

 

I have no problem admitting when he has a bad throw, the difference is I don't expect him to make every throw perfect.

Sure doesn't seem like it....

[hobbes2702 13439]

22 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Question for the haters. The offensive PI and non catch following ply QE's fault too? That pass was perfect against good coverage. Let me guess, he doesn't get credit when he throws a great pass and they don't catch them huh?

FYI, that is a ball going through the hands and no the defender didn't touch the ball.

Good god just leave it. This stupid play by play by play is ridiculous as is the “Quinn haters” or “Quinn lovers”. He hasn’t been good enough. That is obvious to everyone. There has been plenty of hyperbole (from me) but this “what about this one throw” thing is dumb as fuck. 
 

[Longhornlove 5198]

Let me guess, non-touch throw that was dropped, Quinns' fault?

[hobbes2702 13439]

2 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Let me guess, non-touch throw that was dropped, Quinns' fault?

[Longhornlove 5198]

7 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Good god just leave it. This stupid play by play by play is ridiculous as is the “Quinn haters” or “Quinn lovers”. He hasn’t been good enough. That is obvious to everyone. There has been plenty of hyperbole (from me) but this “what about this one throw” thing is dumb as fuck. 
 

People cherry pick, I'm just returning the favor. Don't like it, ignore it. Quinn had chances to win that game, he didn't. He also isn't solely responsible for the loss like same insinuate or believe.

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

You know what go fuck your own face means?