QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[Longhornlove 5097]

6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Maybe he wouldn’t get shit on if he wasn’t such a pussy?

Maybe people wouldn't dunk on you if you weren't such a shitty poster.

[BurntOrange&White 41342]

1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

Maybe people wouldn't dunk on you if you weren't such a shitty poster.

More people tend to side with me on this topic than the 3-4 of you head in the sand Quinnanon posters 

[Hank Kingsley 21484]

6 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Quinn is going to go to the NFL where pretty much everyone has a running game and O-lines don't bust protection frequently and be just fine. He isn't a runner but he can throw on the move and is really accurate in the intermediate and quick game. On a team that can't consistently run the football he struggles but that dude looks like a world beater when he gets good blocking and the defense has to respect the running game. We are mad at him for not being able to play hero ball but that's not what the NFL wants from a QB.

It will be so much harder for him in the NFL. The fact you can't see it is not surprising. O-lines don't bust protections? Everyone has a running game? What? Do you watch the NFL at all? 

His path to NFL success IMO is to 1. get drafted by a good organization 2. Sit for 1-3 years 3. Work very hard on fundamentals 4. Learn how to avoid hits/pressure. 

He physically wouldn't last one quarter in the NFL if you threw him on a team today. 

 

[Jkwellborn 6972]

Texas defense has been top 10 in FEI for 3 straight years. Offense has never finished higher than 17 over that period.

Pass defense sucked ass, I don’t care what any adjusted stat says. It was the weak point of the team. Teams couldn’t run the ball. But it certainly seemed like Texas couldn’t stop a high school passing attack most of the time.

[Longhornlove 5097]

6 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

But some of us are not gonna put our heads in the sand when you see consistent issues that stand in the way. 

I'm not sure what the part I quoted means, regardless I wasn't intending on calling you out specifically, it was more of a general statement. 

[closetohumping 17701]

Honestly, he’s not 100%.  I think pre injury he was the heisman favorite and probable first qb taken. 

[Longhornlove 5097]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

More people tend to side with me on this topic than the 3-4 of you head in the sand Quinnanon posters 

Running a poll then, I don't buy it. If true there are more dumbasses in here than I thought.  If we don't make it to the NC game it will be because our run game got bottled up again, not Quinn Ewers.

[Funk Doctor Spock 13042]

Serious question -

I don't watch Sark's presses because all pressers bore me. Has any of the media whipped out their clits and asked him specifically why he doesn't use Arch? Because now Finebaum is like wtf is this guy doing not using a mobile qb who can score?

[Longhornlove 5097]

Just now, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Serious question -

I don't watch Sark's presses because all pressers bore me. Has any of the media whipped out their clits and asked him specifically why he doesn't use Arch? Because now Finebaum is like wtf is this guy doing not using a mobile qb who can score?

Paul Finebaum is a click bait, hawt take dumbass with a face for radio. I complete fraud if you ask me.

[Thatguy 9154]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Do you watch NFL at all? Quinn’s shit pocket presence, mechanics, and lack of mobility will get him crushed. 
 

 

No fucking way he makes any plays that Joe Burrow makes behind that shitty Bengals OL 

3rd and 4

3rd and 9

3rd and 14

3rd and 27

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3rd and 15

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3rd and 17

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3rd and 10

 

This is what Quinn was facing vs Georgia. That's 11 out of 18 3rd downs of 9 yards or longer. This is what you were expecting him to overcome. He won't see this in the NFL. BTW we were 57% on the 3rd downs NOT 9 yards or longer.

[Funk Doctor Spock 13042]

2 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Paul Finebaum is a click bait, hawt take dumbass with a face for radio. I complete fraud if you ask me.

You're not wrong, but I guess I meant to say he's the latest in a long line of people scratching their heads. Not Surly posters, people in the media. 

Edited Tuesday at 09:57 PM by Funk Doctor Spock

[Longhornlove 5097]

11 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Colt was like mid-3rd round? That’s probably around the over/under for Ewers.

85th overall. Quinn has a higher upside than Colt. Don't forget Anthony Richardson was a first round draft pick. That is just a recent example of dumbassery.

[BurntOrange&White 41342]

1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

3rd and 4

3rd and 9

3rd and 14

3rd and 27

3rd and 14

3rd and 5

3rd and 26

3rd and 5

3rd and 4

3rd and 22

3rd and 15

3rd and 10

3rd and 3

3rd and 17

3rd and 3

3rd and 15

3rd and 5

3rd and 10

 

This is what Quinn was facing vs Georgia. That's 11 out of 18 3rd downs of 9 yards or longer. This is what you were expecting him to overcome. He won't see this in the NFL. BTW we were 57% on the 3rd downs NOT 9 yards or longer.

So you don’t watch nfl and made a statement about Quinn and nfl you can’t defend. Got it 

[Longhornlove 5097]

Just now, Funk Doctor Spock said:

You're not wrong, but I guess I meant to say he's the latest in a long line of people scratching their heads. Not Surly posters, people in the media. 

Which part wasn't true? He certainly has a face for radio, there is no denying that one. He has made a career off of Hawt takes. I can take back the dumbass comment.

[BurntOrange&White 41342]

Just now, Longhornlove said:

Which part wasn't true? He certainly has a face for radio, there is no denying that one. He has made a career off of Hawt takes. I can take back the dumbass comment.

It’s not even a hot take to say that about Sark and his lack of use of Arch. Even Sark himself admits he should have used Arch more. 

[BabaYaga 15486]

1 hour ago, Longhornlove said:

Once you are on campus star rankings mean fuck all. They never get brought up in the NFL. I understand some think he isn't living up to expectations but damn, we are in a much better place now than before he got here. That wasn't all him either but he has certainly played his part. I will go ahead and apologize to all longhorn fans that I am sorry Quinn Ewers has failed to live up to your individual expectations.

The overall team is much better.  The O-line is better.  The receivers, the defense.  What I want to know if why QE is still making the same costly mistakes now, that he was making last season?

[sidis 9970]

21 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

We are mad at him for not being able to play hero ball but that's not what the NFL wants from a QB.

hmmm, if that is true, it is no wonder why the same team keeps winning the super bowl with a relatively mediocre overall roster.

[BurntOrange&White 41342]

5 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

85th overall. Quinn has a higher upside than Colt. Don't forget Anthony Richardson was a first round draft pick. That is just a recent example of dumbassery.

I bet colts career ends up being longer. 

[BabaYaga 15486]

34 minutes ago, hook me said:

Holy revisionist history. Sam, while a longhorn legend and a brief glimpse of hope amidst a decade of pure QB trash, was nowhere near great. We're not in the Big 12 championship last year with Sam & let's not even start with David Ash. This is aggy level of delusion/wishcasting. You can point out all the flaws with Quinn you want, there are plenty to choose from, but that shit is just absurd.

Are you honestly saying all else being equal, both QB's get to play with this year's team, that the QE team beats the Ehlinger team?  No way.  

[Thatguy 9154]

8 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

It will be so much harder for him in the NFL. The fact you can't see it is not surprising. O-lines don't bust protections? Everyone has a running game? What? Do you watch the NFL at all? 

His path to NFL success IMO is to 1. get drafted by a good organization 2. Sit for 1-3 years 3. Work very hard on fundamentals 4. Learn how to avoid hits/pressure. 

He physically wouldn't last one quarter in the NFL if you threw him on a team today. 

 

O-linemen get beat but they usually get their hands on the guy momentarily. Mostly teams get to quarterbacks by blitzing and in the NFL the receivers know what to do. NFL teams don't run slow developing, back to the field double screen pass fakes with any regularity. They usually just drop back and throw it. Which is what Quinn is good at. There are a lot of curls, stops, comebacks, and outs. They try to get the ball out quick. Usually in the NFL if a rushing attack is stymied its because they committed numbers to it which leaves you vulnerable on the back end. Nobody in the NFL is stoning a running attack with a 3-3-5 flyover. I don't know if you have been paying attention but teams are keeping their safeties back and still handling our running game vs 12 personnel. You don't see those kinds of things in the league. You also don't see teams in 3rd and forever for most of the game and expecting their QB to bail them out. In the NFL 3rd and long is pretty much understood unless you can throw it short and the guy can make an individual play, you are likely punting.

[Longhornlove 5097]

 

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

It’s not even a hot take to say that about Sark and his lack of use of Arch. Even Sark himself admits he should have used Arch more. 

Then you don't understand the totality that is going on with the culture and team chemistry. Not surprising. My comment was specific to giving any validity to a mouthpiece like Pawl.

[BabaYaga 15486]

3 minutes ago, sidis said:

relatively mediocre overall roster.

What drugs are you on?

[BurntOrange&White 41342]

Just now, Longhornlove said:

 

Then you don't understand the totality that is going on with the culture and team chemistry. Not surprising. My comment was specific to giving any validity to a mouthpiece like Pawl.

Sark himself admitted he should use Arch more. What are you going on about?

[Funk Doctor Spock 13042]

4 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Which part wasn't true? He certainly has a face for radio, there is no denying that one. He has made a career off of Hawt takes. I can take back the dumbass comment.

Oh god, you're 100% correct about his face. I was just saying that yesterday even he came out after others to question why Sark is being stubborn and holding himself back by not using Arch.  

It's not like Arch can burn his RS. It's like he has 1 package per game (if he even decides to use it). We saw what he could do against aggy, and I have no doubt he could have done the same against UGA at the very minimum instead of relying on a kicker who can't get out of his own way. 

[Longhornlove 5097]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Sark himself admitted he should use Arch more. What are you going on about?

JFC dude, I'm not fucking talking about that.

[Funk Doctor Spock 13042]

5 minutes ago, sidis said:

hmmm, if that is true, it is no wonder why the same team keeps winning the super bowl with a relatively mediocre overall roster.

This is who Quinn wants to mimic, but this is how it comes out 

[BurntOrange&White 41342]

4 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

O-linemen get beat but they usually get their hands on the guy momentarily. Mostly teams get to quarterbacks by blitzing and in the NFL the receivers know what to do. NFL teams don't run slow developing, back to the field double screen pass fakes with any regularity. They usually just drop back and throw it. Which is what Quinn is good at. There are a lot of curls, stops, comebacks, and outs. They try to get the ball out quick. Usually in the NFL if a rushing attack is stymied its because they committed numbers to it which leaves you vulnerable on the back end. Nobody in the NFL is stoning a running attack with a 3-3-5 flyover. I don't know if you have been paying attention but teams are keeping their safeties back and still handling our running game vs 12 personnel. You don't see those kinds of things in the league. You also don't see teams in 3rd and forever for most of the game and expecting their QB to bail them out. In the NFL 3rd and long is pretty much understood unless you can throw it short and the guy can make an individual play, you are likely punting.

This guy doesn’t watch nfl

[sidis 9970]

7 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

What drugs are you on?

besides mahomes, there are very few players on the chiefs i would pick up from last year or this year. i don't think this is a particularly controversial point.

what do you think the chiefs' record is this year with no mahomes? what do you think the chiefs' record is if you trade every player on the chargers for the chiefs but keep mahomes? maybe kelce the exception...and eventually worthy.

but to say the nfl doesn't look for hero ball from qbs when this entire century's list of champions has been utterly dominated by two quintessential hero ball qbs is kind of funny. but it is true that nfl gms are all fucking idiots.

Edited Tuesday at 10:15 PM by sidis

[Thatguy 9154]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

This guy doesn’t watch nfl

Name a part of what I said that isn't true

[BabaYaga 15486]

Let's also not think that Sark is the only one clutching to their starting QB pearls.  Kirby HAD to make a switch and it arguably won them the game.  Kid's not going to be able to continue to do that with tape out on him, but for that one game, it mattered.  

I damn sure hope Sark is working on formations and schemes that utilize both Arch and QE.  Ewers is more experienced and it better at intermediate routes.  Arch is bigger/faster, can run, is inexperienced, and throws a better deep ball.  At the very least, use him like Tebow before he took over the starting job.  

[Funk Doctor Spock 13042]

6 minutes ago, sidis said:

Mahomes 

Where can a man, uh, get the drug Mahomes. Asking for a friend 

[Longhornlove 5097]

2 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Let's also not think that Sark is the only one clutching to their starting QB pearls.  Kirby HAD to make a switch and it arguably won them the game.  Kid's not going to be able to continue to do that with tape out on him, but for that one game, it mattered.  

I damn sure hope Sark is working on formations and schemes that utilize both Arch and QE.  Ewers is more experienced and it better at intermediate routes.  Arch is bigger/faster, can run, is inexperienced, and throws a better deep ball.  At the very least, use him like Tebow before he took over the starting job.  

Sark gets in his own way too often. He gets too cute when he doesn't have to. he doesn't break tendencies when he should. Sometimes it looks like he loves the smell of his own farts too much. His offense also historically relies on a more bruising RB that can handle inside zone. We only have one RB who likes to not fumble. It creates a major problem for this offense. He needs to find some alternatives being the guru and all. We have run the ball much better in pistol lately for instance. I'm just afraid we are limited by our running game, hopefully it all works out.

[Thatguy 9154]

Just now, Longhornlove said:

Sark gets in his own way too often. He gets too cute when he doesn't have to. he doesn't break tendencies when he should. Sometimes it looks like he loves the smell of his own farts too much. His offense also historically relies on a more bruising RB that can handle inside zone. We only have one RB who likes to not fumble. It creates a major problem for this offense. He needs to find some alternatives being the guru and all. We have run the ball much better in pistol lately for instance. I'm just afraid we are limited by our running game, hopefully it all works out.

And we have hung our hat on Outside Zone which DOES NOT work vs disruptive fronts like Georgia's.

[BabaYaga 15486]

1 minute ago, sidis said:

besides mahomes, there are very few players on the chiefs i would pick up from last year or this year. i don't think this is a particularly controversial point.

For what, your fantasy football league?

They have one of the best defenses in the league, hosses on the O-line, especially the interior.  Pacheco runs mad as hell, and their receiver corps over the years on the SB teams have been great.  Everyone uses the same excuse they did with Brady - that he was superman surrounded by a bunch of spares.  

[BurntOrange&White 41342]

1 minute ago, BabaYaga said:

For what, your fantasy football league?

They have one of the best defenses in the league, hosses on the O-line, especially the interior.  Pacheco runs mad as hell, and their receiver corps over the years on the SB teams have been great.  Everyone uses the same excuse they did with Brady - that he was superman surrounded by a bunch of spares.  

I’d say in the past yes. But the last two years haven’t been great in regards to their receivers 

[immamac 43988]

I really wish that the quinn thread wasn't synonymous with the 2024 season thread to some of you. It's not a god damned catchall. 

[BabaYaga 15486]

5 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Sark gets in his own way too often. He gets too cute when he doesn't have to. he doesn't break tendencies when he should. Sometimes it looks like he loves the smell of his own farts too much. His offense also historically relies on a more bruising RB that can handle inside zone. We only have one RB who likes to not fumble. It creates a major problem for this offense. He needs to find some alternatives being the guru and all. We have run the ball much better in pistol lately for instance. I'm just afraid we are limited by our running game, hopefully it all works out.

Yep.  If only we had a mobile QB that could make plays if/when they break down with his legs.  This is why QE has regressed.  Happened last year when Brooks went down.  Teams sell out to stop the run, disguise their coverages, and dare QE to beat them.  Same as this year.  Hell, if QE would just step up and into the pocket and possibly run for 3-4 yards it completely changes things.  

[Longhornlove 5097]

6 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

And we have hung our hat on Outside Zone which DOES NOT work vs disruptive fronts like Georgia's.

Georgia has too much speed, the LBs and safeties will run it down even if you get the line blocked. Most of our effective running plays were fairly quick hitters out of the pistol.

[BabaYaga 15486]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I’d say in the past yes. But the last two years haven’t been great in regards to their receivers 

They adapted, leaned on their defense, run-game, and Mahomes making plays with his legs.  Kelsey is still a HOF TE, even if he's long in the tooth.  That's the point.  They are good enough to change how they attack other defenses.  

[Longhornlove 5097]

2 minutes ago, immamac said:

I really wish that the quinn thread wasn't synonymous with the 2024 season thread to some of you. It's not a god damned catchall. 

Walmart exists because of one stop shopping is a thing.

[Thatguy 9154]

2 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Yep.  If only we had a mobile QB that could make plays if/when they break down with his legs.  This is why QE has regressed.  Happened last year when Brooks went down.  Teams sell out to stop the run, disguise their coverages, and dare QE to beat them.  Same as this year.  Hell, if QE would just step up and into the pocket and possibly run for 3-4 yards it completely changes things.  

No one sells out to stop the run vs us.

[hobbes2702 13277]

53 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

I feel for him to, he was playing well, been gutting it out since and then you got "fans" like we have in here shitting on him. People need to be better humans. It is never as bad or as good as your emotions lead you to believe.

 

He’s a football player making millions of dollars. Grow up.

[Longhornlove 5097]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

millions of dollars.

I actually mentioned this exact mindset and you delivered, thanks.

[BurntOrange&White 41342]

1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

I actually mentioned this exact mindset and you delivered, thanks.

I agree Quinn is just a come from nothing kid that is at the university of Texas for the diploma and his love of the Horns. We should all be considerate to him for that. 😊

Edited Tuesday at 10:35 PM by BurntOrange&White

[sidis 9970]

Just now, BabaYaga said:

For what, your fantasy football league?

They have one of the best defenses in the league, hosses on the O-line, especially the interior.  Pacheco runs mad as hell, and their receiver corps over the years on the SB teams have been great.  Everyone uses the same excuse they did with Brady - that he was superman surrounded by a bunch of spares.  

no, for the hypothetical nfl team that does not have a relatively mediocre roster around a transcendent qb.

dude, their wrs last year were laughably bad. it was a theme for the entire season.

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Chiefs wideouts posted a 7.8% drop rate during the regular season, the worst rate for any team’s wideouts in any season over the past decade. Compared with every other wide receivers room from every other team over that stretch, Kansas City’s drop rate was 3.5 standard deviations above the mean. The receivers were scandalously bad.

pacheco is a star? he has 55 carries for 234 yards and 1 td...4.3 yards per carry. the very definition of mediocre.

they have a solid run defense but their pass defense is 20th in the league. they are in the top half of the league overall.

the chiefs are not a star studded roster the last couple of years and, to the entire fucking point being made before getting sucked into this idiocy...their success is almost exclusively derived from hero ball from their quarterback. if you want to debate that, feel fucking free and good luck to you.

[Thatguy 9154]

1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

Georgia has too much speed, the LBs and safeties will run it down even if you get the line blocked. Most of our effective running plays were fairly quick hitters out of the pistol.

Yep. Their safeties ran the alley untouched all night cleaning up anything that made it outside including the quick game. We only made hay inside, but even that was embarrassing considering how highly our line is touted. If we could truly run the football. I mean truly. This thread would be a ghost town.

[MrBig 5573]

6 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

I feel for him to, he was playing well, been gutting it out since and then you got "fans" like we have in here shitting on him. People need to be better humans. It is never as bad or as good as your emotions lead you to believe.

You complain about people calling Quinn a pussy because he doesn’t want to take a hit in a contact sport, but here you are Karen-ing up this Quinn thread like it’s a Facebook group talking about feelings. This is college football in Texas. It’s not being a bad human to want our starting QB to score touchdowns in the red zone and move a little in the pocket to extend plays. 

[Longhornlove 5097]

1 minute ago, MrBig said:

You complain about people calling Quinn a pussy because he doesn’t want to take a hit

Not true, I've never said that, seems like I might have struck a chord with you though.

[mwaadeeb 1353]

10 minutes ago, MrBig said:

This is college football in Texas. It’s not being a bad human to want our starting QB to score touchdowns in the red zone and move a little in the pocket to extend plays. 

No but it is being a cunt to call him a pussy. 

[Billy Pilgrim 2051]

2 hours ago, t_eight said:

 

Manning, in his time starting this year made some bonehead plays and some sensational plays.

Nothing Arch has done this season has been as boneheaded as the pick 6 against the aggies and the fumble/pick 6 against Kentucky. People say Quinn takes better care of the ball but it definitely doesn’t look that way when you watch the games.