QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[BurntOrange&White 41846]

1 minute ago, ChickenSandwich said:

How much of Sark's playbook/playcalling is neutered by having a QB who can't run or even move the pocket due to the ankle injury? 40-60%?

 

I'd say 63.48%

[hobbes2702 13436]

24 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

You are actually wrong, I'm sure someone else would be happy to provide evidence to that fact. There are laws very specific to these things, I'm out, have somewhere to be. If no one provides the evidence I suggested I will do the work this evening if I have the chance.

You’re a fucking idiot dude. 

[Codaxx 6243]

8 minutes ago, immamac said:

Most of it. 

probably have a much different looking offense next year.

[Thatguy 9353]

10 minutes ago, immamac said:

TBH I think a lot of people see quinn as the guy who's holding this extremely talented roster back. They aren't really wrong either. 

At the current moment we aren't that talented on the offensive side of the ball. Not sure why everyone thinks that. The upper part of the SEC has more skill players on offense than we do currently.

[Vic Mackey 47950]

Most of it. 

And with this admission, people still don't think Arch would be the better choice lol. If your QB makes Peyton Manning look like Michael Vick, that's a massive disadvantage. Not only can he not move away from pressure,, he will self sack himself on his own with no real pressure.

[Codaxx 6243]

1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

At the current moment we aren't that talented on the offensive side of the ball. Not sure why everyone thinks that. The upper part of the SEC has more skill players on offense than we do currently.

outside of RB (wisner made an all-sec team), their is not a talent issue on offense. Georgia would kill to have the Texas WR corp.

[BurntOrange&White 41846]

16 minutes ago, immamac said:

Most of it. 

You can go watch old football when sark was HC and OC at other schools and this offense looks nothing like those offenses.

[Texasborn91 1098]

4 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

At the current moment we aren't that talented on the offensive side of the ball. Not sure why everyone thinks that. The upper part of the SEC has more skill players on offense than we do currently.

8 or 9 of the 11 starters on offense will be drafted 

[Codaxx 6243]

1 minute ago, Texasborn91 said:

8 or 9 of the 11 starters on offense will be drafted 

9 or 10, Quinn will get drafted

 

 

(just a joke)

Edited December 11 by Codaxx

[BurntOrange&White 41846]

Banks - drafted
Majors - drafted
Campbell - drafted
Cam - drafted
Bond - drafted
Golden - drafted
Helm - drafted
Wingo - drafted

Wisner - maybe drafted
Moore - maybe drafted

Conner - undrafted

Yeah no talent!
 

Edited December 11 by BurntOrange&White

[jimmyjazz 47127]

Regarding WR, as highly as I think of Golden, would you rather have Golden/Bond or AD/X???

TE is effectively an upgrade to be sure.

RB, we're doing OK but damn we miss CJ.

[Red Five 41703]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Regarding WR, as highly as I think of Golden, would you rather have Golden/Bond or AD/X???

If they're all healthy? AD/X, but it's close. 

[BurntOrange&White 41846]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Regarding WR, as highly as I think of Golden, would you rather have Golden/Bond or AD/X???

TE is effectively an upgrade to be sure.

RB, we're doing OK but damn we miss CJ.

I think Worthy and Mitchell are higher end receivers but both receiving groups are filled with NFL talent so the would you rather doesn’t really work. If our receivers were what we had in 2021 I’d agree that there could be a debate. Quinn had 3 nfl guys last year. He has 3-5 nfl guys this year 

[hobbes2702 13436]

31 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

At the current moment we aren't that talented on the offensive side of the ball. Not sure why everyone thinks that. The upper part of the SEC has more skill players on offense than we do currently.

This is an insane statement man.

[TreatyOak 17338]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

This is an insane statement man.

This is an even more insane statement: 

"Everything that can be invented has been invented": Said by Charles H Duell, Commissioner of US Office of Patents, in 1899

[jimmyjazz 47127]

27 minutes ago, Red Five said:

If they're all healthy? AD/X, but it's close. 

No, now.  Bond is suffering.

[Hank Kingsley 21750]

- This is the best offensive line we've had since...???

- Kelvin Banks has been Quinn's left tackle for all 3 years until injury vs. A&M. Possible top 10 pick in the NFL draft. 5th year SR Center. Inconsistent but talented RT that might declare for NFL draft with 1st or 2nd round grade. 

- Deepest WR room in years. In 2023, Texas had 3 wide receivers with 10 or more catches for the season (X,AD,Whitt). Texas has 5 WRs with 20 or more catches so far this year (Bond,Moore,Golden,Boldin,Wingo). All are expected to play in the NFL. 

- TE Gunnar Helm 49 catches and flying up draft boards.

- Wisner 3rd team All-SEC at running back. 

 

[C-Man 27777]

52 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

At the current moment we aren't that talented on the offensive side of the ball. Not sure why everyone thinks that. The upper part of the SEC has more skill players on offense than we do currently.

[MrBig 5626]

1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

At the current moment we aren't that talented on the offensive side of the ball.

This is how my brain felt reading this statement. Great handoff #3

[jimmyjazz 47127]

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

- Wisner 3rd team All-SEC at running back. 

- Quinn Ewers 2nd team All-SEC at quarterback.

I mean, if you're gonna use that as a standard . . .

[Pam Cummings 9867]

2 hours ago, Thatguy said:

At the current moment we aren't that talented on the offensive side of the ball. Not sure why everyone thinks that. The upper part of the SEC has more skill players on offense than we do currently.

Thats insane. What an insult to our actual really awesome players on that side of the ball.

Edited December 11 by Pam Cummings

[Tex-19 3013]

3 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:

How much of Sark's playbook/playcalling is neutered by having a QB who can't run or even move the pocket due to the ankle injury? 40-60%?

Well he did run pretty well against ATM on said ankle..

But in general, Quinn's deep ball issues are probably just as limiting to playbook as his mobility. Sark isn't exactly known for dual threat QBs anyway. The sucktitude of the running game also has impacted playcalling for sure.

[hobbes2702 13436]

40 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Thats insane. What an insult to our actual really awesome players on that side of the ball.

@Longhornlove is gonna be really upset.

[Josef Pwag 1907]

2 hours ago, Red Five said:

If they're all healthy? AD/X, but it's close. 

[Ghost of Shag 2730]

3 hours ago, Thatguy said:

At the current moment we aren't that talented on the offensive side of the ball. Not sure why everyone thinks that. The upper part of the SEC has more skill players on offense than we do currently.

It all makes sense now. 
You’re mentally handicapped.

In one post, you lost every debate you’ve been trying to win for weeks.

We can shut the Quinn thread down now and declare the victors.

Edited December 12 by Ghost of Shag

[Longhornlove 5194]

1 hour ago, Pam Cummings said:

Thats insane. What an insult to our actual really awesome players on that side of the ball.

Is it? Golden is our best offensive player at the moment, maybe Helm unless he is pass blocking(holy shit that was a disaster). Weisner is the only RB who doesn't cough it up and gains some yards. It is completely on him as he is the only one that can be trusted. Banks....out, both guards got pulled against Georgia. For what? Stellar play, no. Moore and Wingo are Both struggling to catch the ball. Bond has been injured and a non-factor for what 4 weeks now and the QB has some epic mental lapses in judgement in between his stretches of near stellar play. It would be a compliment to say the offense is consistent. Well, they are consistent at being inconsistent. All the guys gonna get drafted, must be a talented offense. Sure but are they any good as a team. No, not really, not on a consistent enough basis. Even Quinn is gonna get drafted they say. Well, he must be good right? No? How does this really work then?

The offense has sucked in stretches and been good in stretches. Are they talented, sure but they damn sure aren't consistently playing good as a unit. That is fucking obvious. Everybody in here wants to blame the QB, there are at least 11 others that share a significant percentage of that blame including the HC/OC.

[jimmyjazz 47127]

3 hours ago, Red Five said:

If they're all healthy? AD/X, but it's close. 

Say what?

[Red Five 41703]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Say what?

I can say it again a different way if you'd like. I would take Worthy/Mitchell over a healthy Bond/Golden, but the difference isn't huge. All four are legit NFL dudes. 

[Jkwellborn 7032]

Beck threw 3 picks against us in the first game. 

He threw that many the second time too. Just kept getting bailed out by the refs.

[Hank Kingsley 21750]

29 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I can say it again a different way if you'd like. I would take Worthy/Mitchell over a healthy Bond/Golden, but the difference isn't huge. All four are legit NFL dudes. 

I don't know how he'll do at the Combine, but Golden passed the eyeball test from Day 1 at Texas and has delivered ever since. He just looks like a pro WR out there. Great player. 

 

[jimmyjazz 47127]

31 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I can say it again a different way if you'd like. I would take Worthy/Mitchell over a healthy Bond/Golden, but the difference isn't huge. All four are legit NFL dudes. 

I'd definitely take the former over the latter.  Golden is a solid next level receiver, Bond seems to be a bit checked out, and I'm not sure it's all injury.  Worthy was electric and Mitchell was one of the most clutch receivers in recent history, across two programs.

[BurntOrange&White 41846]

23 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'd definitely take the former over the latter.  Golden is a solid next level receiver, Bond seems to be a bit checked out, and I'm not sure it's all injury.  Worthy was electric and Mitchell was one of the most clutch receivers in recent history, across two programs.

There were stretches where Worthy seemed checked out too.

[Thatguy 9353]

5 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Banks - drafted
Majors - drafted
Campbell - drafted
Cam - drafted
Bond - drafted
Golden - drafted
Helm - drafted
Wingo - drafted

Wisner - maybe drafted
Moore - maybe drafted

Conner - undrafted

Yeah no talent!
 

I said currently. As in this very moment. As in what we looked like playing Georgia.

Bond-hurt not a factor for weeks.

Golden-Awesome

Moore-meh

Wingo- not ready yet

RBs-meh

Helm-solid

Banks- great

Williams- tons of upside but not there yet

Interior of the O-line-decent

Tenn, Ga, SC, and Ole Miss are as good as we are or better as an offensive unit at this very moment. Now Bond healthy. Wingo as a junior. Baxter back healthy. Williams next year. This isn't the big12. All these guys have talented rosters. At this very moment we have one good receiver. A decent TE. Our line cannot consistently open holes. Our backs cannot get their own yardage. The right side of our line is responsible for 26 sacks this year.

[Thatguy 9353]

2 hours ago, Ghost of Shag said:

It all makes sense now. 
You’re mentally handicapped.

In one post, you lost every debate you’ve been trying to win for weeks.

We can shut the Quinn thread down now and declare the victors.

You are judging on potential. I am talking about current play. Wingo will be great but he isn't right now. Still learning.  Bond hasn't been right for weeks now. The interior of our line has struggled vs some pretty light boxes. We are all pissed about the lack of hardware for our guys but if you start naming other guys in the SEC you can name quite a few better before you get to our dudes. I think we are so used to the big12 that we forget this is a different league. Georgia, SC, Tenn, and Ole Miss all have better backs than we do. Bama, Tenn, and Ole Miss all have better receiving corps than what we are currently trotting out there. Georgia, Ole Miss, and Tenn all have better lines than we do from a man to man basis. We have one really really good lineman.

[Hank_Hill 19993]

6 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

6 hours ago, immamac said:

Most of it. 

And with this admission, people still don't think Arch would be the better choice lol.

Including the head coach LOL

[BurgleBro 980]

5 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Regarding WR, as highly as I think of Golden, would you rather have Golden/Bond or AD/X???

 

Wash.  Maybe edge Golden/ Bond.

The deep balls overall are inconsistent with both groups. 

Feels like intermediate is more automatic with Golden Bond. 

And thus far red zone TD throws seem even as well. 

[jimmyjazz 47127]

24 minutes ago, BurgleBro said:

Wash.  Maybe edge Golden/ Bond.

lolwut?

[BurgleBro 980]

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

lolwut?

Golden better mid range route receiver than either.  

Bond/X you pick and choose games when either was healthy. 

Q frequently hurt when either 4 healthy. 

It's close imo

[Hank_Hill 19993]

7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

lolwut?

I hope the above clarified things for you. It didn’t for me.

[SpiralOut 1963]

NFL/Draft guys who really know their shit clowning on Quinn, especially his abysmal turnover rate when throwing over the middle of the field.  

 

[GTJ1982 439]

Let’s not diminish Bond because he’s been hurt.  When he was healthy he was probably our best skill player on offense and our only game breaker.  
 

The receivers in the Georgia game did have a lot of drops but I don’t think it’s fair to say they are meh.  
 

The video above probably encapsulates how Sark feels about Quinn throwing over the middle and why when we get in the red zone we throw low percentage but safe passes.  
 

 

Edited December 12 by GTJ1982

[Jkwellborn 7032]

Card got destroyed in that game. If Quinn doesn't get hurt we might win by double digits. People forget how bad Card shit down his pants at times and he was treated the same a Quinn is now, disdain. I figured most would figure it out when I combined Thompson and Card together that I was speaking about Sarks first year but apparenlty I misjudged.

If card didn’t get hurt, Texas probably wins.

[closetohumping 17803]

7 hours ago, SpiralOut said:

NFL/Draft guys who really know their shit clowning on Quinn, especially his abysmal turnover rate when throwing over the middle of the field.  

 

These guys are probably biased.  Aggy or sooner?

[Red Five 41703]

2 hours ago, GTJ1982 said:

Let’s not diminish Bond because he’s been hurt.  When he was healthy he was probably our best skill player on offense and our only game breaker.  
 

The receivers in the Georgia game did have a lot of drops but I don’t think it’s fair to say they are meh.  
 

The video above probably encapsulates how Sark feels about Quinn throwing over the middle and why when we get in the red zone we throw low percentage but safe passes.  
 

 

Ok, ok, so no running, no throwing over the middle, and no deep shots. What's left?

[Texasborn91 1098]

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Ok, ok, so no running, no throwing over the middle, and no deep shots. What's left?

Screen game! 

[closetohumping 17803]

17 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Banks - drafted
Majors - drafted
Campbell - drafted
Cam - drafted
Bond - drafted
Golden - drafted
Helm - drafted
Wingo - drafted

Wisner - maybe drafted
Moore - maybe drafted

Conner - undrafted

Yeah no talent!
 

I actually think Moore will get drafted.  He will be a star next year.  
 

this will sound weird but I actually like golden better than mitchell

[closetohumping 17803]

12 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Ok, ok, so no running, no throwing over the middle, and no deep shots. What's left?

Defense needs to score more

[wong 26]

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

Ok, ok, so no running, no throwing over the middle, and no deep shots. What's left?

option and wild cat

[SpiralOut 1963]

2 hours ago, closetohumping said:

These guys are probably biased.  Aggy or sooner?

Pretty sure they're the Stoops brothers just wearing masks.

[Atticus 4208]

Quinn has a very special ability to throw the ball, but he isn’t a transcendent QB. He frequently struggles to make post snap reads and he occasionally struggles with ball placement. 

The best QBs understand space and how to manipulate defenders to create opportunities for their targets. Even if they aren’t a big threat with their legs. 

Quinn short circuits when he sees something he isn’t expecting or he puts the ball in danger by throwing into the defender he doesn’t see. 

It’s frustrating to watch, but it could easily be worse. I’m still glad he’s a Horn and I’m thankful for his contributions to the resurgence of this program.