QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[GreenspointTexas 9940]

30 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Quinn's greatest asset is his accuracy in the short game. He throws screens and swing passes better than Arch based on what we saw in 2 games. Quinn puts a very high percentage on that front shoulder. Slants and crossers can be argued. . His mid-range game had been very good up until this year. It has been much more inconsistent. Deep ball is an issue.

Good thing Clemson wont just sit on short routes and dare quinn to beat em deep…..

[Jkwellborn 7025]

Yeah, Moore's score  was a 4-yard pass and a 38-yard run.
I watched it and then scrolled on over  to OT and rewatched that. I was pretty stoked to see Arch put up that 5 yards on 1st down. I was ummmmm disturbed to see him pulled right back to the sidelines. Why? What better time to let 'em hang? Then, after 1st... here comes Arch, right? Wrong. Another trip to the Red Zone, another FG.
I know, we're playing the long game - the CCG means jack shit, we'll save it for the CFP that we already know we're in... 
Hook'em

Yall people think Sark is saving something kill me. All year, it’s been saving for Ou, saving for uga, saving for aggy, saving for the champ game, saving for the playoff.

At this point, I’ll believe it when I see it.

[Cairn Horn88 8502]

14 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

At this point, I’ll believe it when I see it

Save that thought!

[Ghost of Shag 2724]

10 hours ago, MrBig said:

Your definition of “stride” must include throwing the ball behind the receiver or having them slow down to catch the pass. Quinn does it constantly and it disrupts the routes. Look at this ball he threw in practice. Just fucking hit a guy and don’t make him change direction or turn back for the ball and they’re more likely to be headed all the way to the end zone. It drives me crazy how he has so much arm talent and still can’t put the ball in front of a receiver in stride.

 

[troph 25127]

Yards after catch would suggest QE is actually quite good at short and intermediate passes thrown to WRs and RBs so they can catch and go. 

[MrBig 5621]

14 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

LOL wut?  It's literally something he does better than 99% of college QBs.  Arch can't come close.  Deep ball?  Yup, much better.  Short screens, etc.?  Nope.

Cherry picking a bad throw in practice doesn't negate dozens and dozens of perfectly thrown (and difficult) throws in live fire.  For fuck's sake, some of you are a real beating.

All I’m saying is we need more of this from Quinn which is money and in stride creating a big gain.

And less of this Quinn throwing behind the receiver which messes up the stride and makes it harder to evade defenders. 

[Hank_Hill 19928]

5 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Good thing Clemson wont just sit on short routes and dare quinn to beat em deep…..

Hard to believe no other teams thought of this

[Codaxx 6239]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/texas-has-a-quinn-ewers-problem-arch-manning-is-an-obvious-solution-if-longhorns-are-to-make-cfp-run/

[MirrOlure 15233]

Yall people think Sark is saving something kill me. All year, it’s been saving for Ou, saving for uga, saving for aggy, saving for the champ game, saving for the playoff.

At this point, I’ll believe it when I see it.

We didn’t see an “Arch Package” in any game that Quinn started and finished until the Aggy game. It’s reasonable to believe we’ll see some expansion of that in what is hopefully an extended post season.

[closetohumping 17802]

6 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:

Yall people think Sark is saving something kill me. All year, it’s been saving for Ou, saving for uga, saving for aggy, saving for the champ game, saving for the playoff.

At this point, I’ll believe it when I see it.

Used to think Mack and Greg saved stuff for ou. Instead , we copied their plays after they beat us

[Hank Kingsley 21657]

25 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

We didn’t see an “Arch Package” in any game that Quinn started and finished until the Aggy game. It’s reasonable to believe we’ll see some expansion of that in what is hopefully an extended post season.

Arch touched the ball one time the following week vs. Georgia in OT, and it seems pretty clear Sark just wanted to get positive rushing yardage on 1st down and considered Arch the best option. 

 

[BurntOrange&White 41837]

6 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Arch touched the ball one time the following week vs. Georgia in OT, and it seems pretty clear Sark just wanted to get positive rushing yardage on 1st down and considered Arch the best option. 

 

Kind of funny he got 1 touch vs Georgia when just the week prior Sark said he wanted to use him more. lol

[Hank_Hill 19928]

He must suck

[Tex Long 4659]

6 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:

Yall people think Sark is saving something kill me. All year, it’s been saving for Ou, saving for uga, saving for aggy, saving for the champ game, saving for the playoff.

At this point, I’ll believe it when I see it.

I don't believe he's saving any secret plays. I don't understand the point of using Manning for nothing but a quick five yards running. Or a fake to make the oppo burn a timeout. Maybe it's just showing errybody including future recruits/xfers his loyalty to a player and attempting to get him to the NFL and the bigger payday - and I think that's pretty much a Good Thing™, just not at the expense of the team winning.

[Thatguy 9318]

7 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

I don't believe he's saving any secret plays. I don't understand the point of using Manning for nothing but a quick five yards running. Or a fake to make the oppo burn a timeout. Maybe it's just showing errybody including future recruits/xfers his loyalty to a player and attempting to get him to the NFL and the bigger payday - and I think that's pretty much a Good Thing™, just not at the expense of the team winning.

Sark doesn't want to get his QB hurt running the football because there is a very real chance he may need him. Seems pretty straight forward to me. Especially when your starting QB is already limping around with an ankle.

[BurntOrange&White 41837]

3 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Sark doesn't want to get his QB hurt running the football because there is a very real chance he may need him. Seems pretty straight forward to me. Especially when your starting QB is already limping around with an ankle.

Starting QB needs to quit being a pussy and learn to put a team on his fucking back. Nah, that's too much to ask for....Sark has to scheme up perfect plays and calls for him because he can't do anything outside of structure.

[bad_teammate 13488]

Yeah, the run-only Arch package is idiotic. Arch as a dual threat is a great idea, though.

[Thatguy 9318]

4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Starting QB needs to quit being a pussy and learn to put a team on his fucking back. Nah, that's too much to ask for....Sark has to scheme up perfect plays and calls for him because he can't do anything outside of structure.

I know right? A good quarterback should be able to beat Georgia without ever running the football. Next year Arch is gonna throw for 450 on Georgia even if we have 31 yards rushing and convert every 3rd down no matter the down and distance.

[BurntOrange&White 41837]

2 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

I know right? A good quarterback should be able to beat Georgia without ever running the football. Next year Arch is gonna throw for 450 on Georgia even if we have 31 yards rushing and convert every 3rd down no matter the down and distance.

A good QB can take over a game regardless...because a good QB, especially one of Quinn's alleged stature, should be able to elevate the talent around him.....

Edited Tuesday at 09:27 PM by BurntOrange&White

[Hank_Hill 19928]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

A good QB can take over a game regardless...

Most “good” QBs cannot, actually. 

[Tex Long 4659]

8 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Sark doesn't want to get his QB hurt running the football because there is a very real chance he may need him. Seems pretty straight forward to me. Especially when your starting QB is already limping around with an ankle.

Nobody has suggested Arch should run it again and again. The fact is, last two games, Arch came in for one play, and ran it. 2nd and 5 is good. Why take him right back out?

Apparently Sarkisian sees something in Ewers that Arch can't do. As in, he believes that Quinn gives us a better chance to win for that reason. I don't know what that reason is or likely would be - do you? 

[BurntOrange&White 41837]

2 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Most “good” QBs cannot, actually. 

Guess Sam or Colt never elevated their teams.

[Jkwellborn 7025]

All I’m saying is we need more of this from Quinn which is money and in stride creating a big gain.

And less of this Quinn throwing behind the receiver which messes up the stride and makes it harder to evade defenders. 

I mean, Blue juked a guy out of his scholarship in the first one. That’s where the big gain came from.

[Hank_Hill 19928]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Guess Sam or Colt never elevated their teams.

That’s a different statement.

[Jkwellborn 7025]

We didn’t see an “Arch Package” in any game that Quinn started and finished until the Aggy game. It’s reasonable to believe we’ll see some expansion of that in what is hopefully an extended post season.

Letting Arch run two ZR plays isn’t a package.

[BurntOrange&White 41837]

Just now, Hank_Hill said:

That’s a different statement.

Nope, Colt and Sam both elevated their teams.....Quinn quite literally has deflated this team.

[Hank_Hill 19928]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Nope, Colt and Sam both elevated their teams.....Quinn quite literally has deflated this team.

Elevating a team is different than “taking over a game” regardless of the rest of the teams performance. Try again.

[BurntOrange&White 41837]

2 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Elevating a team is different than “taking over a game” regardless of the rest of the teams performance. Try again.

Colt and Sam took over games thus elevating their teams. Quinn has not

 

”take over” 

“elevate”

 

it all equates to the QB stepping the fuck up. Something Quinn has not done outside of Michigan. 

Edited Tuesday at 09:39 PM by BurntOrange&White

[Hank Kingsley 21657]

[Thatguy 9318]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Colt and Sam took over games thus elevating their teams. Quinn has not

Imagine thing Quinn has never taken over a game. What championship game has Colt ever taken over?

[BurntOrange&White 41837]

1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

Imagine thing Quinn has never taken over a game. What championship game has Colt ever taken over?

He was cooking the fuck out of Bama before injury. He cooked the fuck out of Ohio state in a BCS bowl. He took over multiple games. Arguing otherwise about Colt is fucking retarded. 
 

2009 Colt is best example of how Quinn should be regarding team management especially considering the lack of run games both teams had. 

Edited Tuesday at 09:42 PM by BurntOrange&White

[Hank_Hill 19928]

Colt McCoy is one of the winningest QBs in college football history. He is in the top 5% of college football QBs all time. Let’s compare the top 5 QBs in this draft class to VYs “taking over game” ability next. Again, most good QBs are not capable of taking over games regardless of other team factors.

[BurntOrange&White 41837]

4 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Colt McCoy is one of the winningest QBs in college football history. He is in the top 5% of college football QBs all time. Let’s compare the top 5 QBs in this draft class to VYs “taking over game” ability next. Again, most good QBs are not capable of taking over games regardless of other team factors.

Sorry Quinn is a 1.000 5 star Qb just like Vince and should be judged to the Colt, and other Texas legends standard. After all that is the category yall try and put him in. He should be able to take over games with this alleged arm we’ve heard all about. I guess it’s too much to ask of Quinn to not be a giant pussy and actually play with fight and tenacity instead of looking like a defeated loser on the sidelines. 

Edited Tuesday at 09:56 PM by BurntOrange&White

[Hank_Hill 19928]

Thats fine. Most good QBs still can’t take over games regardless of team performance. 

[jimmyjazz 47066]

14 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Sorry Quinn is a 1.000 5 star Qb

Of all the ways to evaluate a college QB, using their dumbass HS recruiting grade bestowed by dumbass jock sniffers is the worst.

[BurntOrange&White 41837]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Of all the ways to evaluate a college QB, using their dumbass HS recruiting grade bestowed by dumbass jock sniffers is the worst.

Look at every QB with that rating then come back. 
 

 

Edited Tuesday at 10:12 PM by BurntOrange&White

[jimmyjazz 47066]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Look at every QB with that rating then come back. 

I'd rather remove my own hemorrhoids via my nose than do that.

[Hookem10 870]

I’ve seen QBs take over a game and lose also - do those count 

[BurntOrange&White 41837]

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

I'd rather remove my own hemorrhoids via my nose than do that.

Yeah cause it’s not pretty for Quinn to see that he’s more like Brock Berlin 

[Hookem10 870]

Hell - just last year milroe took over the game against us and lost. Without his running ability and deep ball, Alabama loses by 8 tds. Bijan dominated a few games and lost also

[Texasborn91 1090]

I can’t wait til this thread is buried deep in Surlys’ guts. 

[Hank_Hill 19928]

3 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

I’ve seen QBs take over a game and lose also - do those count 

That’s different 

[BurntOrange&White 41837]

Just now, Texasborn91 said:

I can’t wait til this thread is buried deep in Surlys’ guts. 

To be fair we have a Vince thread that spans two websites and at least a decade plus 

[Hank_Hill 19928]

8 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'd rather remove my own hemorrhoids via my nose than do that.

He can walk you through it. He does that to CTJ on the daily 

[Zeus 6788]

1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

I know right? A good quarterback should be able to beat Georgia without ever running the football. Next year Arch is gonna throw for 450 on Georgia even if we have 31 yards rushing and convert every 3rd down no matter the down and distance.

Jaxon Dart and Jalen Milroe threw and ran all over Georgia. 

Hayes fucking King threw for 300+ AND ran for 100+ on them. 

Georgia isn't unstoppable on defense, they just play a certain way. Even Quinn gimped a 40 yard scramble on them.

[The Ace of Aces 5374]

40 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

I can’t wait til this thread is buried deep in Surlys’ guts. 

Just wait until he has a big game at Oregon next season. 

[Codaxx 6239]

1 hour ago, Hank_Hill said:

Thats fine. Most good QBs still can’t take over games regardless of team performance. 

That was not really what was called for, so I don’t get this argument. A QB taking over  a game would imply winning in a shootout or having multiple 4Q TD drives. That is not the same as needing 17 over the course of a game. 

[Thatguy 9318]

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

He was cooking the fuck out of Bama before injury. He cooked the fuck out of Ohio state in a BCS bowl. He took over multiple games. Arguing otherwise about Colt is fucking retarded. 
 

2009 Colt is best example of how Quinn should be regarding team management especially considering the lack of run games both teams had. 

Colt went out of the Bama game before a point was even scored. You can't claim "cooking the fuck out of" on that one. Colt was 3-1 vs OU. Had a fantastic game vs Ohio State in the Fiesta. Got knocked out of NC game in the 1st qtr. Had a rough game in the Big12 championship game.

 

[Thatguy 9318]

14 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Jaxon Dart and Jalen Milroe threw and ran all over Georgia. 

Hayes fucking King threw for 300+ AND ran for 100+ on them. 

Georgia isn't unstoppable on defense, they just play a certain way. Even Quinn gimped a 40 yard scramble on them.

Dart threw for 199 1td and 1int and ran for 50. Not exactly lighting it up. Their defense turned them over 3 times, got 5 sacks, and held them to 10. We hold Georgia to 10 and we have a new piece of hardware. Milroe is it.

[BurntOrange&White 41837]

7 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Dart threw for 199 1td and 1int and ran for 50. Not exactly lighting it up. Their defense turned them over 3 times, got 5 sacks, and held them to 10. We hold Georgia to 10 and we have a new piece of hardware. Milroe is it.

If everyone does their job except the guy who handles the ball every offensive snap we have a new piece of hardware, got it. Good point!