QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[Hookem10 870]

 

46 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Why are you acting like the height thing would be a Ewers conspiracy? Have you never seen combine measurements compared to college and high school measurements?

he should not have his height and weight recorded at combine just like he won't run the 40

[BurntOrange&White 41842]

9 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

 

he should not have his height and weight recorded at combine just like he won't run the 40

He’s not in a position to be picking and choosing what he wants to do. He has to do everything there including throwing, unless injured. And if injured that will just add to one of his biggest red flags as a prospect. 

Edited Thursday at 01:36 AM by BurntOrange&White

[Thatguy 9349]

2 hours ago, Zeus said:

 

It's not his height he's just not feeling the game.

Watch his tape he pre-determines where he's going to throw, and he doesn't adjust his throw based on what is happening. I don't think it's that he's not seeing it, he's just playing with zero feel. He can make great anticipatory throws and great arm talent throws, but only if it's exactly how they practice it. If there needs to be multiple reads or needs to change throw angle or location, probably wont happen. 

He either throws to the guy and location where he was going to throw at the snap, or he panics and gets sacked.

No clue what you are talking about. Dude is throwing out of 12 personnel probably more than anyone in the country with a conventional offense and we are keeping people in to block a lot. The more receivers the easier it is to throw the football because it cleans up the coverage picture and gets you favorable matchups. The things you guys think you see man. For example on the should've been an interception ball we had 3 receivers to the left. They were defending it like most teams defend it. One at the line and two defenders about 7 yards either side of the triplets. Most defenses man that up when they get that look and Georgia's safety turn and rain with(I think it was) Helm for a couple steps before peeling off back to the receiver. That's an easy mistake to make and great defense by Georgia. Quinn rarely gets fooled by coverages so he is seeing the field pretty well. So far we've got an overthrow vs OU. 4 batted balls. A ball deflected in the air by Bond. And two great defensive disguises by Georgia. Georgia has been the only team to fool him.

[Hookem10 870]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

He’s not in a position to be picking and choosing what he wants to do. He has to do everything there, unless injured. 

I was joking but now you got me thinking. has a player actually told everyone you can't get my height and weight?

[hobbes2702 13434]

3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

He’s not in a position to be picking and choosing what he wants to do. He has to do everything there including throwing, unless injured. And if injured that will just add to one of his biggest red flags as a prospect. 

I would bet he does little to nothing at the combine. Every important person will be at our pro day. 

[Zeus 6845]

4 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

No clue what you are talking about. Dude is throwing out of 12 personnel probably more than anyone in the country with a conventional offense and we are keeping people in to block a lot. The more receivers the easier it is to throw the football because it cleans up the coverage picture and gets you favorable matchups. The things you guys think you see man. For example on the should've been an interception ball we had 3 receivers to the left. They were defending it like most teams defend it. One at the line and two defenders about 7 yards either side of the triplets. Most defenses man that up when they get that look and Georgia's safety turn and rain with(I think it was) Helm for a couple steps before peeling off back to the receiver. That's an easy mistake to make and great defense by Georgia. Quinn rarely gets fooled by coverages so he is seeing the field pretty well. So far we've got an overthrow vs OU. 4 batted balls. A ball deflected in the air by Bond. And two great defensive disguises by Georgia. Georgia has been the only team to fool him.

There’s a bunch of these but this one was really wild in person  

1:50 is exactly what I’m talking about 

 

 

[BurntOrange&White 41842]

12 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

I was joking but now you got me thinking. has a player actually told everyone you can't get my height and weight?

Kyler did height at combine lol

12 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

I would bet he does little to nothing at the combine. Every important person will be at our pro day. 

Would be a mistake. Like I said he needs to prove himself every chance he gets 

[NAVY 6967]

Y’all are a beating. Go Quinn! Go Horns! 
 

 

[hobbes2702 13434]

5 minutes ago, NAVY said:

Y’all are a beating. Go Quinn! Go Horns! 
 

 

These are my favorite. There’s this crazy thing you can do. You just don’t read the thread.

[Thatguy 9349]

50 minutes ago, Zeus said:

There’s a bunch of these but this one was really wild in person  

1:50 is exactly what I’m talking about 

 

 

Lol. You talking about the Helm play? Look at the line of scrimmage and tell me what you see happening. Tell me what he was supposed to do there.

Edited Thursday at 02:38 AM by Thatguy

[Pimphand 6355]

 

Joel Klatt says eloquently what many of you tards want to say.

[Hank Kingsley 21742]

18 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

Joel Klatt says eloquently what many of you tards want to say.

[immamac 44310]

38 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

 

Joel Klatt says eloquently what many of you tards want to say.

He legit just reads surly. 

[Slacks 7045]

6 minutes ago, immamac said:

He legit just reads surly. 

Joel some hoes.

[BurntOrange&White 41842]

18 minutes ago, immamac said:

He legit just reads surly. 

No shot he actually called Quinn a pussy?

[CastHorn 902]

I’ve been watching Quinn turn the ball over whimsically all season. Prior to injury too. The Spring Game, Colorado State, UTSA, OU, Kentucky, A&M, Arkansas, Vandy, Georgia, etc. The guy is going to cough the ball up, and not even in a cool gun slinger kind of way, but in a lame lackadaisical way. I think we can overcome it as long as it’s not consistently on our side of the field. 

[Pimphand 6355]

50 minutes ago, immamac said:

He legit just reads surly. 

I think his ATS picks were like 62% this year so nah he ain't that traded brah ;-)

[Red Five 41703]

I don’t think he’s 6’2” regardless of what the program says.

I’ve stood next to him. Unless he was wearing enormous heals, he’s 6’2”.

[Hank_Hill 19985]

1 hour ago, Pimphand said:

I think his ATS picks were like 62% this year so nah he ain't that traded brah 😉

Surly gamblers are doing much worse guaranteed. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 13274]

Y'all still arguing over Quinn?

[Zeus 6845]

22 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Y'all still arguing over Quinn?

“We’ve all got to take our game to another level, and he’s no different, right?” Texas coach Steve Sarkisian said. “He’s got to do it.” 
 

I mean, this is it. Sark did not hedge his bets and keep Arch getting experience, he put all his chips on Quinn. If Quinn can just play consistently average we probably beat Oregon and go on to win the title. We should with this defense and the weapons on offense. It’s all going to come down to Quinn, can he make a few off schedule plays or will he take sacks and have turnovers.

 

If Quinn doesn’t play well I’m stuck rooting for fucking Boise state to do this shit again and surprise everyone, repeatedly…

 

 

What do you think @Funk Doctor Spock does Quinn get Texas a NC?

[Funk Doctor Spock 13274]

36 minutes ago, Zeus said:

“We’ve all got to take our game to another level, and he’s no different, right?” Texas coach Steve Sarkisian said. “He’s got to do it.” 
 

I mean, this is it. Sark did not hedge his bets and keep Arch getting experience, he put all his chips on Quinn. If Quinn can just play consistently average we probably beat Oregon and go on to win the title. We should with this defense and the weapons on offense. It’s all going to come down to Quinn, can he make a few off schedule plays or will he take sacks and have turnovers.

 

If Quinn doesn’t play well I’m stuck rooting for fucking Boise state to do this shit again and surprise everyone, repeatedly…

 

 

What do you think @Funk Doctor Spock does Quinn get Texas a NC?

I agree with all of this. We should win the title with everything we have. We need Quinn to absolutely step up to another level ans take over. If not, our defense will have to will us to win the title, which I think they can do. 

[deech 2389]

Here is to hoping that we see several weeks of Quinn playing his absolute best.  Every national story/college football outlet has repeatedly said that Texas may have a Quinn Ewers problem.  His coach and his teammates believe in him.  Hopefully the rest allowed his ankle and any other injuries to fully heal and that he goes red ass and shuts everyone up.  

[Billy Pilgrim 2067]

5 hours ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

I agree with all of this. We should win the title with everything we have. We need Quinn to absolutely step up to another level ans take over. If not, our defense will have to will us to win the title, which I think they can do. 

If Quinn had the ability to “step up” and give a clutch performance we’d have played for a national championship last year and would be SEC champions this year. I feel good about Clemson and ASU. If he can just “not fuck up” with bad turnovers against Oregon I think we stand a good chance. That’s the definition of a game manager/bus driver QB. It’s pretty pathetic that that’s about all we can hope for from our 3rd year starter.

Edited Thursday at 11:55 AM by Billy Pilgrim

[Codaxx 6242]

10 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Lol. You talking about the Helm play? Look at the line of scrimmage and tell me what you see happening. Tell me what he was supposed to do there.

Show 6 and dropped 2. OL picks blocks it well. He missed it, never came off his pre-snap read. Nice call by Florida and tough pick up, but he never saw him. Florida DC got him.

[futureman 22691]

On 11/17/2024 at 8:59 PM, Rex Kramer said:

@futureman 

5th round. lol. 

this didn’t age well.

5th round if he’s lucky. 

[closetohumping 17803]

I wonder why Klatt hates Quinn?

9 hours ago, CastHorn said:

I’ve been watching Quinn turn the ball over whimsically all season. Prior to injury too. The Spring Game, Colorado State, UTSA, OU, Kentucky, A&M, Arkansas, Vandy, Georgia, etc. The guy is going to cough the ball up, and not even in a cool gun slinger kind of way, but in a lame lackadaisical way. I think we can overcome it as long as it’s not consistently on our side of the field. 

Which ou game?

[BurntOrange&White 41842]

7 hours ago, Red Five said:

I’ve stood next to him. Unless he was wearing enormous heals, he’s 6’2”.

 

 

[Codaxx 6242]

8 hours ago, Red Five said:

I’ve stood next to him. Unless he was wearing enormous heals, he’s 6’2”.

He is on the shorter side of things. 6'1"-6'2" area. Some of it is his delivery. He doesnt always come over the top. Lot of 3/4 delivery

Edited Thursday at 01:26 PM by Codaxx

[Gandalfish 389]

I’m starting to think this thread should be moved to the Cloak Room.

[BurntEyes 6288]

11 hours ago, Pimphand said:

 

Joel Klatt says eloquently what many of you tards want to say.

So Joel Klatt says pretty much exactly what a ton of people have been saying here since Georgia1. When he says it it's eloquent. When folks here say it they're tards, and the people arguing they are wrong are logical, reasonable people.

That tracks. 

[Pam Cummings 9867]

11 hours ago, Pimphand said:

 

Joel Klatt says eloquently what many of you tards want to say.

[Longhornlove 5183]

8 hours ago, Zeus said:

weapons on offense

Please expand on what weapons you are referencing. Weisner? Pretty good but nothing extraordinary and was 3rd team coming into the season. Helm is perhaps our best weapon. Golden is solid but not exactly explosive. Bond, been hurt, game breaker when healthy, not sure we see that again though he is a decoy at the moment. Moore, having trouble catching the ball but been decent. Wingo is explosive but inexperienced and having trouble catching the ball. Blue sees the field as a receiver or give Weisner a breathe because he is a fumble machine. He is certainly explosive but can't be trusted. Bolden, I want to see more of but he is so small I feel like he is gonna get killed by someone.

 

People are drastically overexagerating our "weapons". When our QBs have time to throw and we run the ball, no one will beat this team. If we win a national championship this year, it will because the offensive line won the line of scrimmage and the defense continues to be what it has been all year. Dominant.

[MrBig 5626]

8 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Moore, having trouble catching the ball but been decent. Wingo is explosive but inexperienced and having trouble catching the ball.

When it’s multiple guys dropping passes and not just the same guy, maybe it’s an issue with how the ball is being thrown. 

[TreatyOak 17328]

As if the Official Surly Horns Quinn Ewers-signed football wasn't fabulous enough, stay tuned for some exciting updates. 

[Hank Kingsley 21742]

3 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Please expand on what weapons you are referencing. Weisner? Pretty good but nothing extraordinary and was 3rd team coming into the season. Helm is perhaps our best weapon. Golden is solid but not exactly explosive. Bond, been hurt, game breaker when healthy, not sure we see that again though he is a decoy at the moment. Moore, having trouble catching the ball but been decent. Wingo is explosive but inexperienced and having trouble catching the ball. Blue sees the field as a receiver or give Weisner a breathe because he is a fumble machine. He is certainly explosive but can't be trusted. Bolden, I want to see more of but he is so small I feel like he is gonna get killed by someone.

 

People are drastically overexagerating our "weapons". When our QBs have time to throw and we run the ball, no one will beat this team. If we win a national championship this year, it will because the offensive line won the line of scrimmage and the defense continues to be what it has been all year. Dominant.

Hilarious that a few of you just can't help shitting on other players in order to protect Quinn and pull out the "if everything else is perfect, we can win it all with Quinn" argument.  We can do that with Cole Lourd as well. 

 

 

[jimmyjazz 47120]

5 minutes ago, MrBig said:

When it’s multiple guys dropping passes and not just the same guy, maybe it’s an issue with how the ball is being thrown. 

Oh for pity's sake.

[Longhornlove 5183]

I think people fail to realize what we lost on offense from a year ago and just magically thought we would be improved or even equal to where were a year ago. Had Baxter not have gotten hurt, that might have helped hide some things. We are an inside zone/RPO offensive team that can't run inside zone. We lost our identity. We had 2 receivers drafted in the first round, they were replaced by some talented guys but barring a 4.25 40 from Bond, neither will get drafted in the 1st round and Golden will probably be a mid round guy(ie. they aren't as good). We lost the first RB in the draft. We have taken a huge hit in that room, no one can deny. TE is a wash with maybe a slight upgrade which no one predicted. OL is slightly better than last year, I think. Everyone expected Quinn to have a huge year with Heisman numbers, then he got hurt,........again. When healthy, I think he has been better than last year but that is debatable. He still makes some dumb indecisive decision but he hasn't really been healthy outside a couple of games.

Regardless, we are in the playoffs, ready to make a run. Our opponents should prepare their anuses.

[BurntOrange&White 41842]

1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

I think people fail to realize what we lost on offense from a year ago and just magically thought we would be improved or even equal to where were a year ago. Had Baxter not have gotten hurt, that might have helped hide some things. We are an inside zone/RPO offensive team that can't run inside zone. We lost our identity. We had 2 receivers drafted in the first round, they were replaced by some talented guys but barring a 4.25 40 from Bond, neither will get drafted in the 1st round and Golden will probably be a mid round guy(ie. they aren't as good). We lost the first RB in the draft. We have taken a huge hit in that room, no one can deny. TE is a wash with maybe a slight upgrade which no one predicted. OL is slightly better than last year, I think. Everyone expected Quinn to have a huge year with Heisman numbers, then he got hurt,........again. When healthy, I think he has been better than last year but that is debatable. He still makes some dumb indecisive decision but he hasn't really been healthy outside a couple of games.

Regardless, we are in the playoffs, ready to make a run. Our opponents should prepare their anuses.

There is at least 9 NFL players on offense, stfu.

 

He's no where close to as good as last year even when healthy. 

Edited Thursday at 03:06 PM by BurntOrange&White

[Longhornlove 5183]

9 minutes ago, MrBig said:

When it’s multiple guys dropping passes and not just the same guy, maybe it’s an issue with how the ball is being thrown. 

That is one of the dumbest things I have read in this thread. 

[MrBig 5626]

1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

That is one of the dumbest things I have read in this thread. 

You’re the one saying the entire offense stinks because Quinn has no weapons and Quinn would be good if the pocket is clean and there is no pressure and if guys are wide open, but sure, I’m the dumb one for saying there might be a root cause for all the drops by different guys. 

[jimmyjazz 47120]

4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

He's no where close to as good as last year even when healthy. 

Statistically, I'd say that's overstating things.  He is worse by most metrics, better in a couple, but not by a significant amount either way:

[BurntOrange&White 41842]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Statistically, I'd say that's overstating things.  He is worse by most metrics, better in a couple, but not by a significant amount either way:

If you're "worse by most metrics" then you're definitely no where close to as good as the previous year.

Edited Thursday at 03:16 PM by BurntOrange&White

[jimmyjazz 47120]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

If you're "worse by most metrics" then you're definitely no where close to as good as the previous year.

You really must be a blast at parties.

[Longhornlove 5183]

3 minutes ago, MrBig said:

you’re the one saying the entire offense stinks because Quinn has no weapons

Where did I say any of that? 

 

[Hank Kingsley 21742]

5 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

I think people fail to realize what we lost on offense from a year ago and just magically thought we would be improved or even equal to where were a year ago. Had Baxter not have gotten hurt, that might have helped hide some things. We are an inside zone/RPO offensive team that can't run inside zone. We lost our identity. We had 2 receivers drafted in the first round, they were replaced by some talented guys but barring a 4.25 40 from Bond, neither will get drafted in the 1st round and Golden will probably be a mid round guy(ie. they aren't as good). We lost the first RB in the draft. We have taken a huge hit in that room, no one can deny. TE is a wash with maybe a slight upgrade which no one predicted. OL is slightly better than last year, I think. Everyone expected Quinn to have a huge year with Heisman numbers, then he got hurt,........again. When healthy, I think he has been better than last year but that is debatable. He still makes some dumb indecisive decision but he hasn't really been healthy outside a couple of games.

Regardless, we are in the playoffs, ready to make a run. Our opponents should prepare their anuses.

Best OL and deepest WR room we've had under Sark. BS to say we've taken a "huge hit" in the WR room. Also, Matthew Golden has been a revelation for Texas this year. Put some fucking respect on his name. There is an argument that he's had the most consistent season by a WR in Sark's tenure so far. 

Your argument treats QB like it's just 1 of 11 positions on the field. It is much more than that. I think you know that, but just ignore it to carve out your position on Quinn and take it out on other players. 

 

[Dahobbs 18302]

34 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Hilarious that a few of you just can't help shitting on other players in order to protect Quinn and pull out the "if everything else is perfect, we can win it all with Quinn" argument.  We can do that with Cole Lourd as well. 

It is so weird how mundane comments about the strengths and weaknesses of other players = "shitting on them" and how saying "Quinn is a pussy" is supposed to be taken as neutral and objective commentary. We have good players. Some are uber talented, but lack experience (Wingo). Some are uber talented, but have been hurt (Bond). Some have been rock solid replacements (Golden and Helm). Some have talent, but with a skill set that isn't necessarily ideal for our core offense as designed (Wisener and Blue, specifically in regards to inside zone). Some have been steadily upping their game with more room to grow (Moore and to a lesser extent Bolden). We have limitations on offense because Quinn isn't great a the deep ball, has limited mobility right now (although much better than it has been). We have limitations on offense because our receivers and Quinn haven't had a ton of experience together and as a result aren't always on the same page (Bond running different routes against A&M, Helm not ready for the hot pass against A&M, Quinn and Moore not on the same page on where the slot fade should be run). We have limitations on offense because our inside lineman aren't maulers and rely on shielding rather than displacement. We have a limitations on offense because we have only one running back that is decent at pass protection. We have limitations on offense because we only have one TE that is decent at blocking. All of these players have other traits that are really good. But, this particularly set of traits just hasn't melded well within our scheme. That's a bit on Sark, a bit bad luck due to injury, and a bit everyone on offense needing to up their game.

Arch brings a different set of traits to the game that I think may help some of the pieces work better together, especially compared to injured Quinn. But bringing him in will also disrupt the things we do have working well. Personally, I think Arch should have started against OU and Georgia1. Quinn clearly wasn't healthy at all in those games. I think rushing him back has caused all sorts of other problems. And now it is a bit difficult to get Arch more involved in the playoffs. I also think we should have been resting Bond against Kentucky, A&M and Georgia2. He just hasn't been useful out there in his state. But with Cook gone, we may not have had another choice. 

Edited Thursday at 03:30 PM by Dahobbs

[hobbes2702 13434]

44 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Please expand on what weapons you are referencing. Weisner? Pretty good but nothing extraordinary and was 3rd team coming into the season. Helm is perhaps our best weapon. Golden is solid but not exactly explosive. Bond, been hurt, game breaker when healthy, not sure we see that again though he is a decoy at the moment. Moore, having trouble catching the ball but been decent. Wingo is explosive but inexperienced and having trouble catching the ball. Blue sees the field as a receiver or give Weisner a breathe because he is a fumble machine. He is certainly explosive but can't be trusted. Bolden, I want to see more of but he is so small I feel like he is gonna get killed by someone.

 

People are drastically overexagerating our "weapons". When our QBs have time to throw and we run the ball, no one will beat this team. If we win a national championship this year, it will because the offensive line won the line of scrimmage and the defense continues to be what it has been all year. Dominant.

This is so stupid 

[MrBig 5626]

3 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Where did I say any of that? 

 

 

39 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

People are drastically overexagerating our "weapons".

What the hell else is this supposed to mean?

[Codaxx 6242]

12 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Best OL and deepest WR room we've had under Sark. BS to say we've taken a "huge hit" in the WR room. Also, Matthew Golden has been a revelation for Texas this year. Put some fucking respect on his name. There is an argument that he's had the most consistent season by a WR in Sark's tenure so far. 

Your argument treats QB like it's just 1 of 11 positions on the field. It is much more than that. I think you know that, but just ignore it to carve out your position on Quinn and take it out on other players. 

 

 

The WR room is worse. Turns out you just dont replace a 1st and 2nd rounder without a little talent drop off. The room is still very good. Expecting 3 year Ewers to be a top 20 QB should not require a 1st and 2nd round WR talent.

Last year 15th by QBR and 17th by Rating. This year 33 by QBR and 38th by rating.

Edited Thursday at 03:36 PM by Codaxx