QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[Codaxx 6242]

9 minutes ago, Zeus said:

At some point a linemen is gonna get beat  

Then it’s up to Quinn to move in the pocket and make a play. 
 

More often than not he doesn’t he just takes a drive killing sack. 
 

Sitting back in coverage is obviously the best move because Quinn also doesn’t see underneath defenders playing zone well and can’t shred you in the mid range and crossing routes. 
 

 

yes, Texas is 87th in Sacks allowed. There is a lot evidence to for a DC to look and say "Lets force these guys to execute, if they do they win"

[Slacks 7046]

12 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

Yeah Vince just has the most memorable shot call in program history in a post game celebration interview. 
 

 

 

Immediately after losing the last game of the season, right?

[Slacks 7046]

12 hours ago, dcar00 said:

this stuff kills me.  I have no idea where it started but every time an athlete yells when they are coming back or pissed about something commentators started talking about the "intensity! will to win! blah blah fucking blah, look at his/her passion!".  It is all such fucking fake bullshit for media and clicks.  I don't need the guy to yell, flex, grit his teeth, etc. or even give great interviews.

In general since Sark got our shit somewhat together after and Quinn became our QB 3 seasons ago , we have lost by more than 7 exactly 1 time.  I'd posit that neither of the losses last year were on him.  

Quinn has limitations in running I wish he didn't have and i've complained about his mechanics(footwork, the flip throws) but the guy has won at a rate not seen since Colt.  If Bert hits some FGs we might even be talking about back to back Big 12/SEC championships.  This is Sark's call and he's going with his guy that has basically had 1 loss in the last 2 years that is truly on him.  Maybe Manning will go 32-0 and we will be talking about what if's but for now we are ridin' or dyin'.

 

 

 

 

I

Not a hoe.

[Longhornlove 5183]

13 minutes ago, MrBig said:

It’s a different clip showing Quinn and Arch throwing the same route back to back. Did you even watch? There is a huge difference in how the ball was thrown and this is the main reason for the Quinn criticism. It’s not because “we hate Quinn” like you and thatguy keep saying. We just want the ball to be thrown better. It’s not personal, it’s football.

 

[Hank Kingsley 21743]

2 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Lol. You think our weak spot is the QB? If the weak spot is the QB why is everyone not loading the box to stop the run and instead they are sitting back in coverage all game and refusing to walk the safety up? I will answer that for you. They are afraid of him. Go watch that 3rd down where Moore scored. We caught Georgia walking a safety up and you know the rest of what happened. Opposing defenses are telling you who they think the most important person to stop on this team is by how they choose to play week in and week out. They aren't sitting back in coverage because they are afraid of the running game.

They want to confuse him. Quinn doesn’t process well or quickly. Keep everything in front of them and tackle well.  Force Texas into longer drives. Eliminate the big play, try to force FGs or turnovers. 

It’s not rocket science. And it’s clearly been working. 

 

[Slacks 7046]

12 hours ago, MrBig said:

A lot of the negative sentiment is from people wanting to see Quinn throw more lasers instead of floaters. And then we get attacked by Quinn supporters saying we hate Quinn. We don’t hate Quinn, we just want him to play better. It has nothing to do with NIL or his commercials or interviews.

Look at the practice clip throws below. The difference between the two is painfully obvious. I’m not saying “put in Arch” I’m just asking Quinn to drop it in the breadbasket like Arch. Less floaters and moon balls should help with the drops as well. 

 

You serious?

Let's dissect these On Air throws... Place defenders in the field. Don't even move the defenders just place them out there. 

Arch's laser goes through the OL, DL, and maybe a LB 

Quinn's touch pass goes over the OL and DL (no batted balls!) and over the outstretched LB and lands in perfect position for the receiver to highpoint the ball.

 

Do you see how dumb we just made this comparison.

[Longhornlove 5183]

4 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

yes, Texas is 87th in Sacks allowed. There is a lot evidence to for a DC to look and say "Lets force these guys to execute, if they do they win"

And yet nearly half of our sacks came against Georgia. 13 out of 28. Considering they are our only losses, there is a correlation there. Rally hard to throw from your back.

[Murfdogg21 4563]

Let us unite in wanting to see Bert Auburn hoist a national championship trophy about his carrot top hair and then immediately enter the portal.

[Valmy77 13625]

5 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

They want to confuse him. Quinn doesn’t process well or quickly. Keep everything in front of them and tackle well.  Force Texas into longer drives. Eliminate the big play, try to force FGs or turnovers. 

It’s not rocket science. And it’s clearly been working. 

 

Sure. Every defense wants to force every offense into long drives, eliminate big plays, and try to force FGs and turnovers.

This is like saying every offense wants to run the ball, pass the ball, get big plays, and score TDs.

But easier said than done.

Edited Wednesday at 01:49 PM by Valmy77

[BurntOrange&White 41842]

29 minutes ago, Slacks said:

Immediately after losing the last game of the season, right?

Quinn is like that even after wins....he just seems like a defeated pussy. He has RPF(resting pussy face)

[Hank Kingsley 21743]

12 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Sure. Every defense wants to force every offense into long drives, eliminate big plays, and try to force FGs and turnovers.

This is like saying every offense wants to run the ball, pass the ball, get big plays, and score TDs.

But easier said than done.

My point is defenses are actually doing it vs. Texas. It's being done. On a pretty regular basis. We are turning the ball over, settling for FGs, and having trouble scoring TDs. The mission is being accomplished. We see it with our eyes, and the stats prove it as well. 

Unfortunately we don't capitalize on off-schedule plays very often, which can be a big part of offensive success if you just "take what the defense gives you" all game. It's not a strength for Quinn. 

 

[Codaxx 6242]

29 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Sure. Every defense wants to force every offense into long drives, eliminate big plays, and try to force FGs and turnovers.

This is like saying every offense wants to run the ball, pass the ball, get big plays, and score TDs.

But easier said than done.

I outlined this already, but the Texas offense is #2 in 20+ yards plays in the nation. They are also prone to penalties, turnovers, negative plays, and red zone struggles. They have shown they are explosive, but not efficient. There are offenses with the exact opposite profile. Those are offenses you want to get after, because they are capable of chocking the clock and winning.

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 02:18 PM by Codaxx

[Dahobbs 18302]

19 hours ago, MrBig said:

All I’m saying is we need more of this from Quinn which is money and in stride creating a big gain.

And less of this Quinn throwing behind the receiver which messes up the stride and makes it harder to evade defenders. 

The Michigan throw is default Quinn. You could pull up 10+ throws like that from pretty much every game (outside of OU, Georgia1 where he was clearly still injured).  There are a lot of valid criticisms of Quinn. Placement on swing passes and short routes is not of one them. He is elite there (maybe the best I've ever seen). His placement on those is literally reason #1a or #1b as to why we are so good at generating explosive plays despite having a low average depth of target on throws. 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 02:23 PM by Dahobbs

[Zeus 6845]

37 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

They want to confuse him. Quinn doesn’t process well or quickly. Keep everything in front of them and tackle well.  Force Texas into longer drives. Eliminate the big play, try to force FGs or turnovers. 

It’s not rocket science. And it’s clearly been working. 

 

The thing is, if we end the cuteness and just run down their throat this defense is going to be in the trash. 
 

Need to start using Gibson if Wisner isn’t working, Blue can work in spells too but he’s not  the hit it quick slashing runner we need. 
 

Shit make Quinn learn how to take a snap under center and jog out there in single back and run strait down their throat. Or pistol I guess. 
 

Clempson ain’t got the dawgz up front like Georgia to just rush 4 and stay back with everyone and stop the run. 

[BurntOrange&White 41842]

4 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

The Michigan throw is default Quinn. You could pull up 10+ throws like that from pretty much every game (outside of OU, Georgia1 where he was clearly still injured).  There are a lot of valid criticisms of Quinn. Placement on swing passes and short routes is not of one them. He is elite there (maybe the best I've ever seen). His placement on those is literally reason #1a or #1b as to why we are so good at generating explosive plays despite having a low average depth of target on throws. 

 

 

Yeah I don't get that comparison. The Quinn we want from Michigan is the Quinn that threw the pass to Helm and the should have been touchdown to Moore. That's the Quinn we want and the Quinn we need to win a national title. 

[Codaxx 6242]

6 minutes ago, Zeus said:

The thing is, if we end the cuteness and just run down their throat this defense is going to be in the trash. 
 

Need to start using Gibson if Wisner isn’t working, Blue can work in spells too but he’s not  the hit it quick slashing runner we need. 
 

Shit make Quinn learn how to take a snap under center and jog out there in single back and run strait down their throat. Or pistol I guess. 
 

Clempson ain’t got the dawgz up front like Georgia to just rush 4 and stay back with everyone and stop the run. 

Clemson has some NFL guys, but they are in short supply. This is a defense that Texas should be able to wear down. On paper it sets up well for 1st Half/Script Quinn, hit some big plays (Clemson was dead last in 20+ yard plays given up in the ACC),  and then hand it over to the run game in the second half.

Edited Wednesday at 02:30 PM by Codaxx

[Dahobbs 18302]

7 minutes ago, Zeus said:

The thing is, if we end the cuteness and just run down their throat this defense is going to be in the trash. 

If the run is working, don't get stupid and draw up long developing plays in the redzone. It constantly backfires for us. Sark gets too clever and decides the way to improve redzone results is to draw up some perfect play rather than keeping it simple stupid. 

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Need to start using Gibson if Wisner isn’t working, Blue can work in spells too but he’s not  the hit it quick slashing runner we need. 

Eh, I don't know about that. Gibson is not handling the ball well. Even when he doesn't fumble, he nearly fumbles. And if we play him, it screams run because he can't pass protect or go out on routes. 

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Shit make Quinn learn how to take a snap under center and jog out there in single back and run strait down their throat. Or pistol I guess. 

No to the first part. Quinn's footwork is messy enough as is. Giving him more things to handle is just going to make it worse. But the pistol has been good to us. I'd love us to expand our use of that. 

Edited Wednesday at 02:30 PM by Dahobbs

[Hank Kingsley 21743]

I just looked up Quinn's longest TD plays of the season, and 4 out of the Top 5 came against FLA. 

1. 50 yards to Wisner (throw back pass behind LOS) vs. FLA 

2. 41 yards to Golden (short slant) vs. UGA 

3. 34 yards to Bond (swing pass behind LOS) vs. FLA 

4. 32 yards to Golden (deep pass) vs. FLA 

5. 29 yards to Golden (fake swing pass, wide open downfield) vs. FLA 

 

[Dahobbs 18302]

32 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I just looked up Quinn's longest TD plays of the season, and 4 out of the Top 5 came against FLA. 

1. 50 yards to Wisner (throw back pass behind LOS) vs. FLA 

2. 41 yards to Golden (short slant) vs. UGA 

3. 34 yards to Bond (swing pass behind LOS) vs. FLA 

4. 32 yards to Golden (deep pass) vs. FLA 

5. 29 yards to Golden (fake swing pass, wide open downfield) vs. FLA 

 

We are good at explosives. Explosive scoring, less so. But we have a number of TDs in that 15-30 yard range. 

• Michigan - 21 yard pass
• Georgia1 - 15 yard pass
• Vandy - 27 yard pass
• Vandy - 25 yard pass
• Arkansas - 20 yard pass
• Kentucky - 17 yard pass

[Had Enough 2111]

2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I just looked up Quinn's longest TD plays of the season, and 4 out of the Top 5 came against FLA. 

1. 50 yards to Wisner (throw back pass behind LOS) vs. FLA 

2. 41 yards to Golden (short slant) vs. UGA 

3. 34 yards to Bond (swing pass behind LOS) vs. FLA 

4. 32 yards to Golden (deep pass) vs. FLA 

5. 29 yards to Golden (fake swing pass, wide open downfield) vs. FLA 

 

Was it you or someone else that said we had 8 50+ yard plays this year?  6 passes, 2 runs.  At least 2 of those passes were behind the LOS.

We’ve upped the frequency of deeper throws since the UF game.

I think we’ll be just fine versus Clemson.

[dcar00 14946]

3 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

Sure. Every defense wants to force every offense into long drives, eliminate big plays, and try to force FGs and turnovers.

This is like saying every offense wants to run the ball, pass the ball, get big plays, and score TDs.

But easier said than done.

my favorite is "what Def Coordinator X wants to do is confuse the QB by disguising coverages"

yes no shit Sherlock.

[MrBig 5626]

3 hours ago, 52-80 said:

I’ve been one of Quinn’s biggest critics in this thread but this drawing is more appropriate for a guy like DJ Uiagalelei.

The Quinn situation is more like landing a hot chick with big tits and a nice ass,  but all she wants to do is fuck missionary style and doesn’t suck dick. We shouldn’t be complaining about getting laid but it would definitely be nice for someone to get blown out once in a while. 

[Had Enough 2111]

3 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

Sure. Every defense wants to force every offense into long drives, eliminate big plays, and try to force FGs and turnovers.

This is like saying every offense wants to run the ball, pass the ball, get big plays, and score TDs.

But easier said than done.

I’d say every defense wants 3 and outs.

There has been some discussion here about how to play us.  I’ll take it as a given that youd play pass first versus us.

What if you’re DC for any team in the country.  What is your first objective on D?  Take the Army’s, the Navy’s out of the equation as they’re so run heavy.

And here’s one thing you know.  There’s only 1 QB in the country at less than 5 yards per attempt.  About 10 at less than 6 yards per attempt.

[Your Mom 4964]

34 minutes ago, MrBig said:

I’ve been one of Quinn’s biggest critics in this thread but this drawing is more appropriate for a guy like DJ Uiagalelei.

The Quinn situation is more like landing a hot chick with big tits and a nice ass,  but all she wants to do is fuck missionary style and doesn’t suck dick. We shouldn’t be complaining about getting laid but it would definitely be nice for someone to get blown out once in a while. 

In this Freudian scenario of yours does Quinn still have the mullet or not?

[MrBig 5626]

1 hour ago, Your Mom said:

In this Freudian scenario of yours does Quinn still have the mullet or not?

Yes but it’s longer in the back and shorter on the sides

[BabaYaga 15623]

3 hours ago, MrBig said:

I’ve been one of Quinn’s biggest critics in this thread but this drawing is more appropriate for a guy like DJ Uiagalelei.

The Quinn situation is more like landing a hot chick with big tits and a nice ass,  but all she wants to do is fuck missionary style and doesn’t suck dick. We shouldn’t be complaining about getting laid but it would definitely be nice for someone to get blown out once in a while. 

More like we've seen how wild she can be, but for some goddamn reason only wants to go to be early and keep my balls nice and blue.  It's these fucking glimpses of greatness that get everyone excited.  We see the possibility, but also the inconsistency.  

[Hank_Hill 19985]

Hey this thread got weirder

[BabaYaga 15623]

8 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Hey this thread got weirder

New Surly motto?

[Jkwellborn 7027]

It’s a different clip showing Quinn and Arch throwing the same route back to back. Did you even watch? There is a huge difference in how the ball was thrown and this is the main reason for the Quinn criticism. It’s not because “we hate Quinn” like you and thatguy keep saying. We just want the ball to be thrown better. It’s not personal, it’s football.
 

That second throw in the clip would get the wr killed.

[Jkwellborn 7027]

At some point a linemen is gonna get beat  
Then it’s up to Quinn to move in the pocket and make a play. 
 
More often than not he doesn’t he just takes a drive killing sack. 
 
Sitting back in coverage is obviously the best move because Quinn also doesn’t see underneath defenders playing zone well and can’t shred you in the mid range and crossing routes. 
 
 

Do you think he doesn’t see the underneath defenders because of his height? I know he batted balls because it, just wondering how much your vision is impaired playing behind a line that has 4 or 5 inches on you.

They want to confuse him. Quinn doesn’t process well or quickly. Keep everything in front of them and tackle well.  Force Texas into longer drives. Eliminate the big play, try to force FGs or turnovers. 
It’s not rocket science. And it’s clearly been working. 
 

It’s the PK defense.

[Hank_Hill 19985]

He’s 6’2”. Height isn’t a major factor for either of those things

[Zeus 6845]

26 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

Do you think he doesn’t see the underneath defenders because of his height? I know he batted balls because it, just wondering how much your vision is impaired playing behind a line that has 4 or 5 inches on you.
It’s the PK defense.

 

It's not his height he's just not feeling the game.

Watch his tape he pre-determines where he's going to throw, and he doesn't adjust his throw based on what is happening. I don't think it's that he's not seeing it, he's just playing with zero feel. He can make great anticipatory throws and great arm talent throws, but only if it's exactly how they practice it. If there needs to be multiple reads or needs to change throw angle or location, probably wont happen. 

He either throws to the guy and location where he was going to throw at the snap, or he panics and gets sacked.

 

[Jkwellborn 7027]

The Michigan throw is default Quinn. You could pull up 10+ throws like that from pretty much every game (outside of OU, Georgia1 where he was clearly still injured).  There are a lot of valid criticisms of Quinn. Placement on swing passes and short routes is not of one them. He is elite there (maybe the best I've ever seen). His placement on those is literally reason #1a or #1b as to why we are so good at generating explosive plays despite having a low average depth of target on throws. 
 
 

I love watching him give someone the chance to posterize a defender.

[Jkwellborn 7027]

He’s 6’2”. Height isn’t a major factor for either of those things

I don’t think he’s 6’2” regardless of what the program says.

[Hank_Hill 19985]

7 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

I don’t think he’s 6’2” regardless of what the program says.

Recruiting services, elite 11, etc. all had him around there as well but the Ewers propaganda conspiracies are certainly more fun

[Dahobbs 18302]

36 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

I love watching him give someone the chance to posterize a defender.

It was a really nice move. 

[Jkwellborn 7027]

Recruiting services, elite 11, etc. all had him around there as well but the Ewers propaganda conspiracies are certainly more fun

If that’s what he measures at the pro day/combine, then I’ll believe it. I mean, according to you, they didn’t have it at the same height, which seems weird to me. But hey, keep thinking there’s a conspiracy against the guy.

[Hank_Hill 19985]

How tall do you think he and Arch are?

[jimmyjazz 47122]

Let's say we blow out Clemson, maybe 45-10, and Quinn goes 25-32 for 320 yards, 3 TD, and no INTs, can we end this fucking abortion of a thread?

[Hank_Hill 19985]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Let's say we blow out Clemson, maybe 45-10, and Quinn goes 25-32 for 320 yards, 3 TD, and no INTs, can we end this fucking abortion of a thread?

No way dude, critiquing the imperfections of those 3 TDs is good for at least 10 pages

[Jkwellborn 7027]

How tall do you think he and Arch are?

Honestly? I figure he’s 6’1” or a shade under. Arch is probably 10’ tall and bullet proof.

Let's say we blow out Clemson, maybe 45-10, and Quinn goes 25-32 for 320 yards, 3 TD, and no INTs, can we end this fucking abortion of a thread?

No, but we can change the direction.

[hobbes2702 13435]

41 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Recruiting services, elite 11, etc. all had him around there as well but the Ewers propaganda conspiracies are certainly more fun

 

Why are you acting like the height thing would be a Ewers conspiracy? Have you never seen combine measurements compared to college and high school measurements?

[BurntOrange&White 41842]

43 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Recruiting services, elite 11, etc. all had him around there as well but the Ewers propaganda conspiracies are certainly more fun

We will find out come the combine unless he pulls a Kyler lol

[hobbes2702 13435]

17 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Let's say we blow out Clemson, maybe 45-10, and Quinn goes 25-32 for 320 yards, 3 TD, and no INTs, can we end this fucking abortion of a thread?

Is the goal to beat Clemson or win the CFP? Let’s say we do what you said and the next week he plays like he did against Arkansas, Aggy, UGA, etc. Do we reopen it then? 

[BurntOrange&White 41842]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

 

Why are you acting like the height thing would be a Ewers conspiracy? Have you never seen combine measurements compared to college and high school measurements?

Cause everyone is out to get Quinn! Omg did you hear he might not even weigh 210!!!!

[Texasborn91 1097]

19 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Let's say we blow out Clemson, maybe 45-10, and Quinn goes 25-32 for 320 yards, 3 TD, and no INTs, can we end this fucking abortion of a thread?

Sure, but that’s not gonna happen because we aren’t playing Florida with their top 3 corners out. 

[Zeus 6845]

22 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Let's say we blow out Clemson, maybe 45-10, and Quinn goes 25-32 for 320 yards, 3 TD, and no INTs, can we end this fucking abortion of a thread?

I’m praying he does this and shuts the haters up. Myself included. 
 

I hope he steamrolls everyone from here out and we all have to eat crow. 

[ChickenSandwich 9947]

2 hours ago, Zeus said:

 

It's not his height he's just not feeling the game.

Watch his tape he pre-determines where he's going to throw, and he doesn't adjust his throw based on what is happening. I don't think it's that he's not seeing it, he's just playing with zero feel. He can make great anticipatory throws and great arm talent throws, but only if it's exactly how they practice it. If there needs to be multiple reads or needs to change throw angle or location, probably wont happen. 

He either throws to the guy and location where he was going to throw at the snap, or he panics and gets sacked.

 

He is missing the “sandbox” skill as a play maker. Has all of the tools and plays well with in the “box” and fails when improvising etc. 

[Fondren & Main 6893]

Arch Manning is 7 feet tall and if he were starting, he’d consume the Tigers with fireballs from his eyes and fire spiral footballs from his arse!

[closetohumping 17803]

58 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Let's say we blow out Clemson, maybe 45-10, and Quinn goes 25-32 for 320 yards, 3 TD, and no INTs, can we end this fucking abortion of a thread?

Let’s just rename it to “Deandre Moore is a shit route runner”