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1 minute ago, 89Horn said:

Ok, let’s finish off this narrative - 

. . . and Texas lost only one of those games when being outscored in the third quarter (Georgia in the SEC CG).  Of interesting note, Texas outscored Georgia 15-0 in the third quarter of their first meeting in Austin in October.  What does all this mean?  The trend is that Texas typically builds a lead in the first half against its opponents and then hangs on to win in the second half with a bounce back in the fourth quarter.

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That doesn't finish a narrative. Texas has been absolutely dog shit in second halves of games down the stretch of the season. Quinn is statistically terrible in second halves this season. If you play with fire enough you're going to get burned....

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2 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

Assuming "ain't that traded" means shitty, you're innumerate and/or ungamblifying.

ATS bets are pretty much all 11-10  and they show that as -110, meaning you win $100 or lose $110. At that level 53% is your breakeven. You get to 62%? You can go ahead and quit your day job. 

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51 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Fix the root of the problem and that doesn't include rotating in a freshman backup QB. No one rotates in backup QBs with success at this or higher levels. You people are wanting Sark top do something that essentially has no precedent. Certainly isn't in his past. The evidence is right in your face and your emotions are preventing you from acknowledging it. This is a lack of being able to run the football problem which is blocking, play calling, execution and personnel problem, not a QB problem. You are asking Arch to solve a problem that Quinn isn't even accountable for.

Penn State did, but no longer.  Came in every game, scored 9 td’s.  Only responding to the “no one rotates” position. Only a playoff team adjacent to us in seeding.

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6 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

Assuming "ain't that traded" means shitty, you're innumerate and/or ungamblifying.

ATS bets are pretty much all 11-10  and they show that as -110, meaning you win $100 or lose $110. At that level 53% is your breakeven. You get to 62%? You can go ahead and quit your day job. 

Yeah, I thought that was an odd take.  62-38 against the spread is money in the bank, consistently.

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2 minutes ago, nbmishoid said:

Penn State did, but no longer.  Came in every game, scored 9 td’s.  Only responding to the “no one rotates” position. Only a playoff team adjacent to us in seeding.

You and everyone else keep bringing this up. There is no precedent with Sark as the head coach or play caller prior to A&M when Quinn was wearing a new state of the art ankle brace. If he is gonna do it, Arch has to be a throwing threat or else you are magnifying the problem by increasing the numbers in the box. From my PoV, it appears he doesn't fully trust Arch to run the same offense Quinn does. Maybe he is playing 3D chess or something, hopefully he proves me wrong a breaks tendencies in the playoffs. he hasn't done much of that this year if at all. That is part of the issue. He is hard headed it appears.

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29 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

I agree with everything here except for the QE fumble against A&M, that was a strip sack when he was trying to evade a rush and make a throw. I refuse to chalk that up as a dumb play.

Not protecting the ball in the RZ immediately after not protecting the ball in the RZ qualifies as a WTF TO for me. It was a really good play by the a&m defender as well but he did a really poor job of protecting the ball while scrambling. Hell the UGA QB got knocked the fuck out on his feet and held on to the ball. 

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15 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

That doesn't finish a narrative. Texas has been absolutely dog shit in second halves of games down the stretch of the season. Quinn is statistically terrible in second halves this season. If you play with fire enough you're going to get burned....

Yes, that is what has happened in those games.  Doesn’t contradict anything I said.  We have won all the games but one when outscored in the third quarter.  The narrative is accurate as a continuation of the tweet you posted.  
 

We all understand that you want Texas to win every game 50-0 and particularly wanting Quinn to go per game 35/35 with 450 yard of perfect passing, 5 TD passes, and run for another 2 with oh just a measles 85 yards rushing (no yards lost on sacks).  That isn’t happening.  We are where we are.  I may not like it either, but that ain’t likely happening any time soon.

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1 minute ago, 89Horn said:

Yes, that is what has happened in those games.  Doesn’t contradict anything I said.  We have won all the games but one when outscored in the third quarter.  The narrative is accurate as a continuation of the tweet you posted.  
 

We all understand that you want Texas to win every game 50-0 and particularly wanting Quinn to go per game 35/35 with 450 yard of perfect passing, 5 TD passes, and run for another 2 with oh just a measles 85 yards rushing (no yards lost on sacks).  That isn’t happening.  We are where we are.  I may not like it either, but that ain’t likely happening any time soon.

Nobody is asking to win 50-0....we're asking for fucking decent offense from our QB and manufacture some points so we're not in a fucking survive game vs Vandy, Arkansas, Kentucky(late), Aggie, and hell we maybe even beat Georgia if so.

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45 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

To be fair, he benched Ewers for three straight series in the 2nd quarter of the first UGA game. Even I thought it was a panic move at the time (would have preferred letting Ewers finish the 1st half and make QB decision at halftime), but he opened the door himself to all this bullshit. Sark did something out of character, which invites people to think he might do it again. 

 

It was two series. And then Sark went complete opposite fully-regarded against Kentucky and kept a Quinn who could barely walk in, with a 17-point lead, only to hand the ball off 15 times in a row.

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Yes, that is what has happened in those games.  Doesn’t contradict anything I said.  We have won all the games but one when outscored in the third quarter.  The narrative is accurate as a continuation of the tweet you posted.  
 
We all understand that you want Texas to win every game 50-0 and particularly wanting Quinn to go per game 35/35 with 450 yard of perfect passing, 5 TD passes, and run for another 2 with oh just a measles 85 yards rushing (no yards lost on sacks).  That isn’t happening.  We are where we are.  I may not like it either, but that ain’t likely happening any time soon.
Moving the goalposts to make an argument. No one is asking for any of that. We just want Quinn to be competent, which he isn't too often. A QB who can actually win games, not have to be hidden by Sark at the end to get a win. We don't want our QB to be a huge liability, which he is. Not to mention he makes Peyton Manning look like Vick in terms of pocket mobility.

We win in spite of Quinn, not because of him.
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4 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Moving the goalposts to make an argument. No one is asking for any of that. We just want Quinn to be competent, which he isn't too often. A QB who can actually win games, not have to be hidden by Sark at the end to get a win. We don't want our QB to be a huge liability, which he is. Not to mention he makes Peyton Manning look like Vick in terms of pocket mobility.

We win in spite of Quinn, not because of him.

Sorry.  I didn’t know that I was responding to you.  The other person I was responding to wants more than competency.

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13 minutes ago, 89Horn said:

 We all understand that you want Texas to win every game 50-0 and particularly wanting Quinn to go per game 35/35 with 450 yard of perfect passing 

Jesus Christ. We have a 3rd year quarter back who has had the same coaches, same system and same o-line all 3 years. Do you have any idea how rare that is in college football?

I just want someone who is functional. Who doesn't look completely confused every time he is under pressure. Someone who can actually tell that a blitz is coming. Someone who knows when to throw the ball away and not take a sack. I would be esctatic if Quinn doesn't give up a fumble or INT that allows for a TD in the same play. That would be progress. 

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17 minutes ago, 89Horn said:

Yes, that is what has happened in those games.  Doesn’t contradict anything I said.  We have won all the games but one when outscored in the third quarter.  The narrative is accurate as a continuation of the tweet you posted.  
 

We all understand that you want Texas to win every game 50-0 and particularly wanting Quinn to go per game 35/35 with 450 yard of perfect passing, 5 TD passes, and run for another 2 with oh just a measles 85 yards rushing (no yards lost on sacks).  That isn’t happening.  We are where we are.  I may not like it either, but that ain’t likely happening any time soon.

If you don't like it, why are you defending it as if the stat was misleading?

The only game that doesn't really fit the trend is Florida since we were up 35-0 at halftime. And ironically we scored the most 2H points in that game out of the last six.

Throw out Florida -  we're averaging 7.2 points in the second half of those other five games. And not exactly against a murderer's row of opponents. That is ALARMING. That is not a good trend, or a good strategy for winning. It's inviting an upset. If we average 7.2 points in the second half during the playoffs, our season will end with a loss.

 

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4 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Hilarious that a few of you just can't help shitting on other players in order to protect Quinn and pull out the "if everything else is perfect, we can win it all with Quinn" argument.  We can do that with Cole Lourd as well. 

Yep, he’s only got 5 top of the NCAA talent for targets and an experienced OL with the Outland award winning left tackle dude, what do you expect? 

Hes only got a coach that made Mac Jones look unstoppable in 2020 with a brilliant scheme.

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Jones finished the season throwing for 4,500 yards with 41 touchdowns and four interceptions. His 203.1 passer rating and 77.4 completion percentage were both NCAA season records. He was named the recipient of the Davey O'Brien, Johnny Unitas Golden Arm, and Manning Awards. Jones finished third for the Heisman Trophy, which went to his teammate Smith.

What do you expect?? Lmao

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1 minute ago, CurlyDumps said:

 

If you don't like it, why are you defending it as if the stat was misleading?

 

There is no like, dislike or defending in what I posted. Is the stat misleading?  Perhaps, but at least incomplete.  I added what occurred in those games - winning all but one of those games - irrespective of the poor offensive production in the second halves of those games.  That is what happened.  If you disagree, then post the final game scores of those games and let me know if we actually ended up losing them.  Maybe I got that wrong.

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I know last years class was loaded at QB a million went in the first round but would he have gone higher last year? Not in the first round of course.

Downfall is sad to watch. I tried to pull for the kid as long as I could. Honestly not on him, on sark.

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The Ewers talk, whether it's his struggles or his future after this year, is dominating sports media right now. Every talking head and media channel is endlessly discussing it this week. Whew. I guess this is what happens when a national brand like Texas is "back". 

I watched Sark's media availability today, and he got pretty pissed at a question from Anwar Richardson, which was something to the effect of "how would you describe Quinn's legacy at Texas if you win or lose the playoff, or with his possibly going to NFL...".  Sark just cut him off and said "No hypotheticals." Anwar stammered some more until Sark gave him another shot to rephrase the question. LOL, it was a little awkward. 

Sark is clearly frustrated with all the Quinn talk. I don't blame him, not a fun narrative.

 

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2 hours ago, Longhornlove said:

 The evidence is right in your face and your emotions are preventing you from acknowledging it. This is a lack of being able to run the football problem which is blocking, play calling, execution and personnel problem, not a QB problem. You are asking Arch to solve a problem that Quinn isn't even accountable for.

 

43 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Moving the goalposts to make an argument. No one is asking for any of that. We just want Quinn to be competent, which he isn't too often. A QB who can actually win games, not have to be hidden by Sark at the end to get a win. We don't want our QB to be a huge liability, which he is. Not to mention he makes Peyton Manning look like Vick in terms of pocket mobility.

We win in spite of Quinn, not because of him.

I used to think this board was football smart. Now I see a lot of this board is incapable of deductive reasoning.

Vic-I went back and charted our throws. We threw the ball out of 11 personnel, 12 personnel, and 21 personnel. Here is how it looked.

11 personnel- 22-33(67%) 284 yards and two sacks. We had explosives passes of 22, 19, 32, 50, 22, 17, and 25.

12 personnel- 3-6(50%) 3-6 for 39 yards and 4 sacks. We had one explosive for 20.

21 personnel- 2-3 28 yards and O sacks.

 

You know what that tells us? The more you lean the offense towards Ewers strengths, spreading it out, the more successful we are passing. Ewers was dealing anytime we dropped back in 11 personnel. The throw to Golden up the sideline? 11 personnel. The scramble drill ball to Golden again? 11 personnel. The RPO TD to Moore? 11 got-damned personnel! We got ourselves in trouble trying to run it and getting behind the sticks whether it was a negative play or a holding call. You think he is hiding Ewers but he isn't. He just doesn't always play to his strengths by dropping back in 12 personnel and not even really sending Davis out in routes. It's hard as shit to throw to 3 against 7 or 8. His stubbornness to keep trotting out there in 12 personnel against Georgia is killing the offense. Everything bad that happened was due to us getting behind the sticks. Even in the aggy game the fumble was out of 12 personnel.

Sometimes you guys gotta stop with the hating and see whats going on.

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6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I keep hearing about this big arm talent he has but when I think of QBs with actual arm talent Quinn looks nothing like them. The two best arm talent QBs outside of Mahomes in the NFL is Josh Allen and Justin Herbert. They rip throws Quinn never has.

You're an idiot.

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1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

 

I used to think this board was football smart. Now I see a lot of this board is incapable of deductive reasoning.

Vic-I went back and charted our throws. We threw the ball out of 11 personnel, 12 personnel, and 21 personnel. Here is how it looked.

11 personnel- 22-33(67%) 284 yards and two sacks. We had explosives passes of 22, 19, 32, 50, 22, 17, and 25.

12 personnel- 3-6(50%) 3-6 for 39 yards and 4 sacks. We had one explosive for 20.

21 personnel- 2-3 28 yards and O sacks.

 

You know what that tells us? The more you lean the offense towards Ewers strengths, spreading it out, the more successful we are passing. Ewers was dealing anytime we dropped back in 11 personnel. The throw to Golden up the sideline? 11 personnel. The scramble drill ball to Golden again? 11 personnel. The RPO TD to Moore? 11 got-damned personnel! We got ourselves in trouble trying to run it and getting behind the sticks whether it was a negative play or a holding call. You think he is hiding Ewers but he isn't. He just doesn't always play to his strengths by dropping back in 12 personnel and not even really sending Davis out in routes. It's hard as shit to throw to 3 against 7 or 8. His stubbornness to keep trotting out there in 12 personnel against Georgia is killing the offense. Everything bad that happened was due to us getting behind the sticks. Even in the aggy game the fumble was out of 12 personnel.

Sometimes you guys gotta stop with the hating and see whats going on.

So run an offense that isn't Sark's with a 3rd year starter in the same offense for those 3 years....good strategy for Sark to implement in time for playoffs!

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You're an idiot.

So you think Quinn has arm talent like Herbert and Allen?

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

So run an offense that isn't Sark's with a 3rd year starter in the same offense for those 3 years....good strategy for Sark to implement in time for playoffs!

So you think Quinn has arm talent like Herbert and Allen?

Run an offense that works. A large portion of Sark's offense is predicated on the ability to consistently run the football. Trying to run the football against Georgia IS what got us in trouble. We weren't 3rd and 12 because of passing.

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

So you think Quinn has arm talent like Herbert and Allen?

Did I say that?  No I didn't.

You are comparing a decent college quarterback to what you believe to be 2 of the top 3 NFL QBs and you are apparently pissed that he's not as good as them.  That's on you, and apparently on the recruiting "gurus" whose boots you lick with no perspective.  For god's sake, just shut the fuck up.

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Fix the root of the problem and that doesn't include rotating in a freshman backup QB. No one rotates in backup QBs with success at this or higher levels. You people are wanting Sark top do something that essentially has no precedent. Certainly isn't in his past. The evidence is right in your face and your emotions are preventing you from acknowledging it. This is a lack of being able to run the football problem which is blocking, play calling, execution and personnel problem, not a QB problem. You are asking Arch to solve a problem that Quinn isn't even accountable for.

I’m not an Urban Meyer fan, but he won a championship rotating QBs situationally. There is not reason Texas couldn’t do the same.
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Did I say that?  No I didn't.

You are comparing a decent college quarterback to what you believe to be 2 of the top 3 NFL QBs and you are apparently pissed that he's not as good as them.  That's on you, and apparently on the recruiting "gurus" whose boots you lick with no perspective.  For god's sake, just shut the fuck up.

Herbert and Allen were decent QBs coming out of college as well and both were touted about their arm strength. They show it with their throws even in college, Quinn doesn't. The recruiting gurus and Quinn gurus in this thread have told us how amazing Quinn's arm talent is but film doesn't match that analysis. 

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The Texas insiders all say Quinn is going to the NFL. He walked on Senior Day. If that decision truly has been made, why is Quinn's team not leaking it to the media? It's a total distraction at this point. Sark is getting more pissed as they keep asking him about QE's future. 

The only thing that makes sense to me is his agent is actually leaving the door open for another program to throw him a massive $$$ offer. This drama isn't helpful to the team at all, and it's just putting a bigger target and critical eye on Quinn. 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

12 personnel- 3-6(50%) 3-6 for 39 yards and 4 sacks. We had one explosive for 20.

How many runs did we have out of 12 personnel? Only 6 passes, then you can dang near identify what side of the line they are running the ball to when in 12. Jeez, they did know what we were running.

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3 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Run an offense that works. A large portion of Sark's offense is predicated on the ability to consistently run the football. Trying to run the football against Georgia IS what got us in trouble. We weren't 3rd and 12 because of passing.

Good plan, completely abandon Sark's offense that is renowned for its production because his current QB is not very good at it!

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Herbert and Allen were decent QBs coming out of college as well and both were touted about their arm strength. They show it with their throws even in college, Quinn doesn't

This dude is mad because his quarterback's recruiting description didn't fit. Lol

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he's been hurt most of this year so that factors in good and bad but his arm will impress. 

It doesn't factor in at all because his injury history is also a bigger red flag than his film. He's amongst the worst QBs in college vs pressure and blitzes. Film shows that....he has done nothing to prove that otherwise this year. His draft stock preseason was 1st round pick to 2nd round. Per CTJ his camp has heard mid round to late rounds now from NFL people. Just a colossal fall off.

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This dude is mad because his quarterback's recruiting description didn't fit. Lol

You should be mad about that since your his biggest defender. He's more in line with Brock Berlin than he is other QBs of that rating. So in essence he's a disappointment, period. I'm sure you defended Ryan Leaf's fall off like this, yeah?

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2 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Anthony Richardson says hi and Quinn is a much better passer.

Anthony Richardson is an elite elite athlete that started one year and was taken off of his athletic potential and strong arm. A 6'4 240+ lbs guy who can run low 4.4s is going to make scouts gush. 

 

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