QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[RichUT 1936]

6 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Do you think nobody noticed that you didn't point out any mistakes whatsoever in this gigantic deflection of a post?

Do you think that I did that on accident? This thread doesn't need more wrought over analysis of individual plays at this point, so I am not going to contribute to that. You and I both know there were more than 1, which isn't even the point. Quinn is fine. He can occasionally reach good, but I am in no way confident that he'll reach that when we really need it. One of us will be proven wrong and one of us will be proven right. I'm fine waiting for that moment. 

[jimmyjazz 47127]

6 minutes ago, RichUT said:

I'm responding to a statement that I disagreed with. Sorry if that rankled you, Mr. extremely high level operator man. But hey, way to pluck one sentence out of a reply and make a huge fucking deal about it. You managed to completely avoid the macro point. 

It's just such a fucking beating.  The very best NFL quarterbacks make multiple mistakes every game but sideline guys like you point out that Quinn "made more than one mistake".

This thread is 422 pages long because of this bullshit.  Own it.

[StassneyHorn 6767]

The biggest takeaway is why did Arch Manning nearly have a 25% chance of fumbling a snap returned for a TD in the game? 

[RichUT 1936]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

It's just such a fucking beating.  The very best NFL quarterbacks make multiple mistakes every game but sideline guys like you point out that Quinn "made more than one mistake".

This thread is 422 pages long because of this bullshit.  Own it.

Oh it's only this long because of "that bullshit"? Not because there are a pack of zealots that rush in to defend every post that dares to be critical? That's rich. 

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[AnotherLawyer 400]

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[Huckleberry 34578]

3 minutes ago, RichUT said:

Do you think that I did that on accident? This thread doesn't need more wrought over analysis of individual plays at this point, so I am not going to contribute to that. You and I both know there were more than 1, which isn't even the point. Quinn is fine. He can occasionally reach good, but I am in no way confident that he'll reach that when we really need it. One of us will be proven wrong and one of us will be proven right. I'm fine waiting for that moment. 

Continued deflection with zero supporting evidence for the argument. And your gotcha is that if we don't win three more games in a row against playoff competition resulting in a national championship then you're right with zero logical explanation. Nobody is fooled by this absurd argument you're making.

[Codaxx 6243]

13 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

We expected it, but the results are questionable, honestly. And probably not the best post-game to boast about his playcalling. The reality is our offense has been the wink link for most of the season. 

 

Sark clearly saw something in the film and knew Texas could run on them. I know that’s not creative or exciting. Texas probably had 4/5 long runs on 3rd and longs. He must have identified something in Clemson’s 3rd and longs packages. I know those look like safe calls, but they were really effective today

[RichUT 1936]

7 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

And your gotcha is that if we don't win three more games in a row against playoff competition resulting in a national championship then you're right with zero logical explanation. 

Again with the false narrative. It's a team sport, and the outcome of a game is rarely decided by the performance of a single player. It just so happens that QB is the most important position in the game, but it's not everything. It's entirely possible that Quinn could even play GREAT and we lose because our Defense falters, our ST lets us down, or the other team just plays even better. And if that happens, you can count on me to come own it and give Quinn his due. No different than I have multiple times in this same thread. Just like it's also possible he could continue to play fine and we could win out. I'd much prefer that scenario, for the record.

You really want to hang me with the "Quinn hater" tag, but there is no evidence for that. I have been vocal that I think he is good, but generally not good enough to be a difference maker at the position. I think tonight was validation of just that. 

 

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[Bozo_Casanova 26841]

13 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

It's just such a fucking beating.  The very best NFL quarterbacks make multiple mistakes every game but sideline guys like you point out that Quinn "made more than one mistake".

This thread is 422 pages long because of this bullshit.  Own it.

That’s not the issue. Everybody is shaky sometimes, and Ewers is no exception. The issue is that Ewers is usually good, and sometimes shaky, but never great; and almost never good for four full quarters, or even consistently good for whole possessions. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Bozo_Casanova

[LTtxfan 49986]

43 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

It you're dissatisfied with how Ewers played today then you're a moron 

Yeah, Quinn protected the ball better today, extended drives, and had a nice TD throw to Gunnar.

His overall game grade is likely...   B+ or  B

[LTtxfan 49986]

34 minutes ago, Drifterwood said:

Props to Quinn tonight. We can win a championship if he keeps this up.  
Not perfect but plenty good.

Awesome...

 

[Hank Kingsley 21750]

12 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Sark clearly saw something in the film and knew Texas could run on them. I know that’s not creative or exciting. Texas probably had 4/5 long runs on 3rd and longs. He must have identified something in Clemson’s 3rd and longs packages. I know those look like safe calls, but they were really effective today

I know shit worked. But their were more individual playcalls and decisions that were questionable than normal. Going to the Gibson at FB formation once too often. The terrible 1st down throwback screen playcall  (that hasn't worked for a while) that ended up with Wisner/CW getting hurt. Treating Arch Manning like Alex Orgi (enough, I'd rather not see him in the game at all if that's the strategy). Not taking the FG in 2nd quarter. Etc. 

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[hobbes2702 13436]

8 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Yeah, Quinn protected the ball better today, extended drives, and had a nice TD throw to Gunnar.

His overall game grade is likely...   B+ or  B

I think he gets an A for today. He protected the ball, didn’t force much of anything, and made a few plays for us that we needed. The 3rd quarter thing is still whack but that’s obviously not only him.

[jimmyjazz 47127]

6 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

That’s not the issue. Everybody is shaky sometimes, and Ewers is no exception. The issue is that Ewers is usually good, and sometimes shaky, but never great; and almost never good for four full quarters, or even consistently good for whole possessions. 

I'm not even sure what your point is?  You're describing the vast majority of college QBs.  

And, to reiterate for what it feels like the thousandth time, I don't give a fuck what QE's recruiting ranking was, and the ensuing expectations.  I care about Texas playing our best QB in the moment.  Sark clearly thinks that is Quinn.  Would you prefer he play a guy he thinks is not as well suited to run our offense and possibly win a national title?

Play the guys who give us the best chance to win every game.  End of story.  Stop pearl clutching over the fact that Quinn Ewers is not a Heisman worthy QB, for fucks' sake.

[Hornius Emeritus 12796]

13 minutes ago, RichUT said:

 I have been vocal that I think he is good, but generally not good enough to be a difference maker at the position. I think tonight was validation of just that. 

 

Huckleberry has offered you numerous opportunities to support/defend this opinion but you have failed to do so. You proffer the opinion without showing your work.

 

[Bozo_Casanova 26841]

5 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Awesome...

 

Coach on the field?

[Deej 77805]

5 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Awesome...

 

"Damn, Quinn sucks! He should have stuck with the play call."

-half this board

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20907]

2 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Continued deflection with zero supporting evidence for the argument. And your gotcha is that if we don't win three more games in a row against playoff competition resulting in a national championship then you're right with zero logical explanation. Nobody is fooled by this absurd argument you're making.

I've never paid any particular attention to @RichUT's posts but holy fuck he's making a dumbshit argument and then doubling down on it.

Quinn played fantastically well today. That little sidearm flick to Gunnar Helm when Clemson was in his grill half a second after the snap was awesome.

[Hank_Hill 19991]

Ewers had a great game. That play gets us to the semis minimum. I also think the Klubs we saw tonight wins every game at Texas this year. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26841]

9 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'm not even sure what your point is?  You're describing the vast majority of college QBs.  

And, to reiterate for what it feels like the thousandth time, I don't give a fuck what QE's recruiting ranking was, and the ensuing expectations.  I care about Texas playing our best QB in the moment.  Sark clearly thinks that is Quinn.  Would you prefer he play a guy he thinks is not as well suited to run our offense and possibly win a national title?

Play the guys who give us the best chance to win every game.  End of story.  Stop pearl clutching over the fact that Quinn Ewers is not a Heisman worthy QB, for fucks' sake.

I think you’re projecting here. I have no idea how good Arch Manning is. Not enough data. I have never once said we should change starters, and I have a long record on these boards of saying that recruiting rankings are an artifact of who is recruiting a given player and don’t mean much beyond that. 
 

That said- yes, I am describing the vast majority of college QBs, who also share the common trait of not winning championships. I don’t think we have a better option, and Ewers isn’t bad enough to explore Manning’s downside, but none of that makes Ewers less frustrating.  

Edited 6 hours ago by Bozo_Casanova

[Codaxx 6243]

10 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I know shit worked. But their were more individual playcalls and decisions that were questionable than normal. Going to the Gibson at FB formation once too often. The terrible 1st down throwback screen playcall  (that hasn't worked for a while) that ended up with Wisner/CW getting hurt. Treating Arch Manning like Alex Orgi (enough, I'd rather not see him in the game at all if that's the strategy). Not taking the FG in 2nd quarter. Etc. 

always be something. Texas ran 70 plays, just saying a lot more good happened 

[jimmyjazz 47127]

Just now, Bozo_Casanova said:

That said- yes, I am describing the vast majority of college QBs, who also share the common trait of not winning championships. I don’t think we have a better option, and Ewers isn’t bad enough to explore Manning’s downside, but none of that makes Ewers issues less frustrating. 

I can name a half dozen other starters who are equally "frustrating".

[formermav43 4621]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

I can name a half dozen other starters who are equally "frustrating".

There were posters singing Kevin Jennings’ praises just a couple of weeks ago. I wonder if anyone would have rather had him playing than Ewers today?

[jimmyjazz 47127]

2 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

There were posters singing Kevin Jennings’ praises just a couple of weeks ago. I wonder if anyone would have rather had him playing than Ewers today?

Not only Jennings but Allar.  I was watching that game and thinking how much of a QB trainwreck it was.

[Bozo_Casanova 26841]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I can name a half dozen other starters who are equally "frustrating".

Sure. Me too. Most of them don’t get this far. 

4 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

There were posters singing Kevin Jennings’ praises just a couple of weeks ago. I wonder if anyone would have rather had him playing than Ewers today?

We have a lot of dumb posters. 

[FloridaHorn 4886]

Every team left in the playoff would love have Quinn as their starter except for the one team he actually plays for. Never change Surly.

[Zeus 6848]

[hobbes2702 13436]

10 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I can name a half dozen other starters who are equally "frustrating".

I think that’s his point.

[Hank_Hill 19991]

3 minutes ago, FloridaHorn said:

Every team left in the playoff would love have Quinn as their starter except for the one team he actually plays for. Never change Surly.

I agree mostly, but Oregon wouldn’t trade right now. 

[hobbes2702 13436]

7 minutes ago, FloridaHorn said:

Every team left in the playoff would love have Quinn as their starter except for the one team he actually plays for. Never change Surly.

I don’t think Oregon, Ohio State, or Georgia would. That doesn’t make them right. 
 

Referring to Beck with Georgia so I guess they would since he won’t be playing.

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[jimmyjazz 47127]

7 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Sure. Me too. Most of them don’t get this far. 

I'm referring to starters for Texas, not other QBs.

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

I don’t think Oregon, Ohio State, or Georgia would. That doesn’t make them right. 

Georgia would for sure.

[Zeus 6848]

26 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Awesome...

 

I’m really happy to hear this. 
 

Sark called something cute and risky and Quinn put us in the best play to win. 

Blues run was MONSTER after they scored late. I mean that shit was like Jaamal Charles saving our ass level. 

16 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Ewers had a great game. That play gets us to the semis minimum. I also think the Klubs we saw tonight wins every game at Texas this year. 

Klubs would leave the game on a stretcher running like that against Georgia. 

[hobbes2702 13436]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'm referring to starters for Texas, not other QBs.

Georgia would for sure.

Yea I added to it. I was referring to Beck.

[jimmyjazz 47127]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

Yea I added to it. I was referring to Beck.

My best and oldest friend is a UGA (and UT) fan, a graduate of both schools.  He HATES Beck.  A lot of UGA fans are of a similar opinion.

[formermav43 4621]

Can you imagine this thread if Ewers threw 11 interceptions in 5 games like Beck did?

[FloridaHorn 4886]

5 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

I don’t think Oregon, Ohio State, or Georgia would. That doesn’t make them right. 
 

Referring to Beck with Georgia so I guess they would since he won’t be playing.

JFC, you could not have possibly typed that with a straight face. Will Howard over Quinn Ewers? LMAO

Oregon is the only school that is debatable and they never would’ve sniffed Gabriel if Quinn was on the roster.

 

[Hank_Hill 19991]

2 minutes ago, Zeus said:

 

Klubs would leave the game on a stretcher running like that against Georgia. 

As opposed to Ewers getting wrecked in the pocket? I’ve been/am neutral/leaning pro Ewers in this thread but Klubnik looked great tonight in the second half. 

[hobbes2702 13436]

Just now, FloridaHorn said:

JFC, you could not have possibly typed that with a straight face. Will Howard over Quinn Ewers? LMAO

Oregon is the only school that is debatable and they never would’ve sniffed Gabriel if Quinn was on the roster.

 

Can you read?

[FloridaHorn 4886]

1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said:

As opposed to Ewers getting wrecked in the pocket? I’ve been/am neutral/leaning pro Ewers in this thread but Klubnik looked great tonight in the second half. 

Klubnik was good once Pete quit bringing pressure when we had a big lead.

[Slacks 7047]

I'm a Quinn positive supporter and thought he played well, but that self sack today was really fn bad.

[hobbes2702 13436]

9 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

My best and oldest friend is a UGA (and UT) fan, a graduate of both schools.  He HATES Beck.  A lot of UGA fans are of a similar opinion.

I work with an UGA and he’d swear Beck was the second coming of Vince Young lol. That’s my only exposure to their fan base though 
 

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[Drew 2919]

9 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

I don’t think Oregon, Ohio State, or Georgia would. That doesn’t make them right. 
 

Referring to Beck with Georgia so I guess they would since he won’t be playing.

Will Howard has been wildly inconsistent too. And beck as well who was worse than Ewers for a big stretch than Season.  
 

might be debatable. 

[troph 25198]

29 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Coach on the field?

As long as he’s like taaffe and not Gideon. 

[jimmyjazz 47127]

Just now, Slacks said:

I'm a Quinn positive supporter and thought he played well, but that self sack today was really fn bad.

The unprovoked "slide"?  I couldn't tell if he lost his footing or what.  Bizarre.

[troph 25198]

25 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I think you’re projecting here. I have no idea how good Arch Manning is. Not enough data. I have never once said we should change starters, and I have a long record on these boards of saying that recruiting rankings are an artifact of who is recruiting a given player and don’t mean much beyond that. 
 

That said- yes, I am describing the vast majority of college QBs, who also share the common trait of not winning championships. I don’t think we have a better option, and Ewers isn’t bad enough to explore Manning’s downside, but none of that makes Ewers less frustrating.  

Eye to eye on this one. 

[Levi 2663]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The unprovoked "slide"?  I couldn't tell if he lost his footing or what.  Bizarre.

He’s got about 3 “wtf am I doing” plays a game. I’ll take that unprovoked slide as one of them any day. 

[The_Great_Hornsby 3593]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

The unprovoked "slide"?  I couldn't tell if he lost his footing or what.  Bizarre.

He got his head banged HARD into the ground on the play before he did that. I am guessing he decided to slide because he wasnt thinking straight & his bell was rung and he was also afraid to get hit again. 

[Hank_Hill 19991]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The unprovoked "slide"?  I couldn't tell if he lost his footing or what.  Bizarre.

I think he felt backside pressure that wasn’t there and had a brain fart. If we’re talking about the roll out to the right turned self sack.

Edited 5 hours ago by Hank_Hill

[Sawbonz 28197]

Is there a worse thread on the internet 

[Hook1997 5509]

He needs a better choice of tie clips…