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6 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


Why is the lack of motion pre snap considered dumbing it down? You’d think since it makes it more difficult to tell coverages with motion and it’s more distracting, that it’s being made easier on the guy running it.
I believe it. You can tell how he double clutches before throwing sometimes. It’s like he’s not sure what he’s seeing or if the guy is open enough.

Your question about lack of motion is a great one.  I’m not sure how that’s dumbing it down.  Exactly how complicated could it be?  It’s a great way to create matchups.  Seems odd we’d run different plays in practice to have different offenses.

On your last comment, this has been curious all season to some extent.  Take that CB blitz in Ga game 1.  Bolden is open but not tons of space.  We don’t go there.  Even that next game versus Vandy in which he hit Bolden on 3rd and 10 or whatever.  He was hesitant out of the break.  It worked just fine, but there’s a hint of what you’re referencing.

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15 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


Why is the lack of motion pre snap considered dumbing it down? You’d think since it makes it more difficult to tell coverages with motion and it’s more distracting, that it’s being made easier on the guy running it.
I believe it. You can tell how he double clutches before throwing sometimes. It’s like he’s not sure what he’s seeing or if the guy is open enough.

It is a bit of a double edged sword though as you touched on. The motion can clear up reads for a QB, but there is also managing all that motion. There is timing to motion (you dont want a snap hitting a leg as an example) and things like making sure people are set (you snap it before and its illegal procedure).

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18 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

Why is the lack of motion pre snap considered dumbing it down? You’d think since it makes it more difficult to tell coverages with motion and it’s more distracting, that it’s being made easier on the guy running it.

If that is the case why do NFL offenses have much higher motion rates? Your assumption is not correct. Motion and shifts is used as much to confuse the defense as much as it is to identify the defense. Your assumption would imply that Arch is more competent in the offense. That is counter to the fact that he is the backup.

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I will get out of this thread today and end with this since I seem to get the natives riled up.

I think we all agree, Quinn could have played better this year and should play better going forward as he is a healthy as he has been since week 3. Regardless, we should make a run at a national title and we should enjoy and celebrate that.

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2 hours ago, Longhornlove said:

Almost like trying to make VY a pocket passer? Thanks Jeff Fisher and early Greg Davis.

Living in Nashville since 1993, Jeff Fisher is a mother fucking cunt after what he did to VY while he was here.  VY had some issues sure but Fisher so hated VY and the fact that Bud Adams forced him to pick VY verses Matt Lienert, who he wanted, it seemed his purpose in life was to prove Bud Adams wrong and helped destroy the franchise and it's never recovered and now we are building a $2,000,000,000 stadium complex to lure the Super Bowl here.😑  Fisher the prick is still tied at number 1 with 165 losses and also has a whopping 51% winning percentage....fucker.

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3 hours ago, immamac said:

I didn't say Sark was holding Quinn back. I said Sark doesn't have an offense that fits a gunslinger. 

Sark took Quinn because everything else on the roster and committed was a dropoff and it locked down a class. He was raw and it was a good enough fit. 

In a perfect world Sark has a very high football IQ, mostly pocket passer with a bit of getaway in him. 

JJ McCarthy would have been a bad sark fit, Caleb Williams and Kyler Murray also terrible fits. The run around in the backfield and throw a guy open type of QB is not what Sarks philosophy of the game is. 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1429865-the-nfl-quarterback-spectrum-analyzing-the-various-models-for-success

Its not a lark to think quinn may benefit from a staff that lets him gunslinger as that's his natural style 

I get your point but I think Sark would do just fine with Caleb Williams or Kyler Murray, especially Kyler.

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7 hours ago, Had Enough said:

The obvious and clear jump in the Sark era is on the defensive side of the ball.

 

6 hours ago, Had Enough said:

So are you on the Sark is a mastermind or not so much?  USC was too long ago.  The Bama rankings and our rankings are part the reason for the question.  Talent-wise we’re comparable.  Physically Ewers is better than Mac.

I am not one to say the HC can’t be the play caller, but there’s enough to question right here, right now whether Sark needs to fulfill both roles.

I'm underwhelmed, given this is year four.  It is not a single position group or player on offense that is the entire problem.

It's a good thing the defense has been elite.

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Sark's offense isn't that complicated. Most of it is same plays from a lot of formations with some window dressing pre-snap. The most complicated part of it is that it is progression based passing and when your QB isn't a great progression based passer or processor of what he's seeing it will suffer, as we've seen. Rod Babers had an interesting stat about how successful our offense is when we have something like 50-60%+ presnap movement, IMO that movement helps Quinn analyze what he's seeing from the defense. Once that goes away or we have non PA/RPO his ability to process goes out the window.

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Elko admitted in his press conference yesterday they can’t stop the forward pass very well and need to work on it next year.  We had 218 passing yards against them, lower than only two other P5 teams they played.  Sure we ran the ball for 243 yards.  We also didn’t top that number a few times this year.  I bet we don’t go below that number more than once if that next year..  Ewers limitations with injury or whatever have definitely been holding the offense back a lot this year.  

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6 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

Elko admitted in his press conference yesterday they can’t stop the forward pass very well and need to work on it next year.  We had 218 passing yards against them, lower than only two other P5 teams they played.  Sure we ran the ball for 243 yards.  We also didn’t top that number a few times this year.  I bet we don’t go below that number more than once if that next year..  Ewers limitations with injury or whatever have definitely been holding the offense back a lot this year.  

Health wise he’s 70% at best.  Just looks different 

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1 hour ago, Hook1997 said:

Elko admitted in his press conference yesterday they can’t stop the forward pass very well and need to work on it next year.  We had 218 passing yards against them, lower than only two other P5 teams they played.  Sure we ran the ball for 243 yards.  We also didn’t top that number a few times this year.  I bet we don’t go below that number more than once if that next year..  Ewers limitations with injury or whatever have definitely been holding the offense back a lot this year.  

USC threw for 295 yards. Texas threw for 218.

Texas had 7.8 yards per attempt (28 attempts) compared to USC's 7.6 (39 attempts). You all know that total yardage is a terrible stat for making performance comparisons but you will certainly use it to confirm your preconceived biases.

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13 minutes ago, The Ace of Aces said:

Quinn’s never going to win people over with his personality / interview style, which is fine, but he looks and sounds like he’d rather be in a billion different places than this today’s media availability

While he doesn't come across as enthusiastic or glowing, I thought he generally gave good answers to the questions. I liked how he handled the Deandre Moore question @ 5:16 in particular.

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7 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

While he doesn't come across as enthusiastic or glowing, I thought he generally gave good answers to the questions. I liked how he handled the Deandre Moore question @ 5:16 in particular.

Agreed and I should have said as much. The opening questions about Arch are terrible and would’ve pissed me off and I’d have sis something dumb and rude. 

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3 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

Elko admitted in his press conference yesterday they can’t stop the forward pass very well and need to work on it next year.  We had 218 passing yards against them, lower than only two other P5 teams they played.  Sure we ran the ball for 243 yards.  We also didn’t top that number a few times this year.  I bet we don’t go below that number more than once if that next year..  Ewers limitations with injury or whatever have definitely been holding the offense back a lot this year.  

Not relevant at all!

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1 minute ago, The Ace of Aces said:

Agreed and I should have said as much. The opening questions about Arch are terrible and would’ve pissed me off and I’d have sis something dumb and rude. 

I disliked the question about Arch. There's a million other more relevant questions to ask Quinn, IMO. That one would have been better put to Sark or Arch himself, IMO.

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1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

USC threw for 295 yards. Texas threw for 218.

Texas had 7.8 yards per attempt (28 attempts) compared to USC's 7.6 (39 attempts). You all know that total yardage is a terrible stat for making performance comparisons but you will certainly use it to confirm your preconceived biases.

USC QB was pretty terrible, they just had people wide open at the end. Most of those yards came while playing from behind and chuncking the ball in the fourth. Point was we won’t come close to games with such low passing yard totals next year. It’s not bias, Quinn is down 50 yards per game average from last year…  I wish he was half living up to all the hype as much as anyone else, but he’s not and has held the offense back.  He’s been serviceable this year and a game manager, the people saying otherwise are the ones with blind biases. 

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Quinn’s never going to win people over with his personality / interview style, which is fine, but he looks and sounds like he’d rather be in a billion different places than this today’s media availability 
 
 

Absolute dick question asking him about Arch being able to take over. wtf.

Was all of this scripted or was someone feeding him answers on a teleprompter? He kept his eyes in the same spot.
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47 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

I disliked the question about Arch. There's a million other more relevant questions to ask Quinn, IMO. That one would have been better put to Sark or Arch himself, IMO.

I don’t know the question or the answer but if the question was anything about pressure or back up ready to go I’d simply say, 

“look man, you’ve got a clickbait article to write, I get it. But we’ve got a championship to win. Arch is my friend, he’s going to be amazing for us next year and beyond, but this team? This fucking team right here, right now? This is my team and we are about to go out there and play in the quarterfinals so why don’t you ask me a question about the game and stop being a putz.”

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1 hour ago, troph said:

I don’t know the question or the answer but if the question was anything about pressure or back up ready to go I’d simply say, 

“look man, you’ve got a clickbait article to write, I get it. But we’ve got a championship to win. Arch is my friend, he’s going to be amazing for us next year and beyond, but this team? This fucking team right here, right now? This is my team and we are about to go out there and play in the quarterfinals so why don’t you ask me a question about the game and stop being a putz.”

Jkwellborn put it a lot better than I did. It was an absolute dick question to ask Quinn.

Despite that, Quinn handled the question rather well.

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I don’t know the question or the answer but if the question was anything about pressure or back up ready to go I’d simply say, 
“look man, you’ve got a clickbait article to write, I get it. But we’ve got a championship to win. Arch is my friend, he’s going to be amazing for us next year and beyond, but this team? This fucking team right here, right now? This is my team and we are about to go out there and play in the quarterfinals so why don’t you ask me a question about the game and stop being a putz.”

He was asked a question that should have gone to sark. The second question of the availability was something about How far along is arch, how much better is he since he got there and can he take over? Some wild shit like that.
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