QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[Had Enough 2,135]

6 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

Why is the lack of motion pre snap considered dumbing it down? You’d think since it makes it more difficult to tell coverages with motion and it’s more distracting, that it’s being made easier on the guy running it.
I believe it. You can tell how he double clutches before throwing sometimes. It’s like he’s not sure what he’s seeing or if the guy is open enough.

Your question about lack of motion is a great one.  I’m not sure how that’s dumbing it down.  Exactly how complicated could it be?  It’s a great way to create matchups.  Seems odd we’d run different plays in practice to have different offenses.

On your last comment, this has been curious all season to some extent.  Take that CB blitz in Ga game 1.  Bolden is open but not tons of space.  We don’t go there.  Even that next game versus Vandy in which he hit Bolden on 3rd and 10 or whatever.  He was hesitant out of the break.  It worked just fine, but there’s a hint of what you’re referencing.

[Codaxx 6,315]

15 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

Why is the lack of motion pre snap considered dumbing it down? You’d think since it makes it more difficult to tell coverages with motion and it’s more distracting, that it’s being made easier on the guy running it.
I believe it. You can tell how he double clutches before throwing sometimes. It’s like he’s not sure what he’s seeing or if the guy is open enough.

It is a bit of a double edged sword though as you touched on. The motion can clear up reads for a QB, but there is also managing all that motion. There is timing to motion (you dont want a snap hitting a leg as an example) and things like making sure people are set (you snap it before and its illegal procedure).

[Longhornlove 5,247]

18 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

Why is the lack of motion pre snap considered dumbing it down? You’d think since it makes it more difficult to tell coverages with motion and it’s more distracting, that it’s being made easier on the guy running it.

If that is the case why do NFL offenses have much higher motion rates? Your assumption is not correct. Motion and shifts is used as much to confuse the defense as much as it is to identify the defense. Your assumption would imply that Arch is more competent in the offense. That is counter to the fact that he is the backup.

[Longhornlove 5,247]

I will get out of this thread today and end with this since I seem to get the natives riled up.

I think we all agree, Quinn could have played better this year and should play better going forward as he is a healthy as he has been since week 3. Regardless, we should make a run at a national title and we should enjoy and celebrate that.

Hook'em

Edited Friday at 07:57 PM by Longhornlove

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2 hours ago, closetohumping said:

I’m still trying to figure out if I’m a cocksucker or not

                        

 

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14 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

I will get out of this thread today and end with this since I seem to get the natives riled up.

It’s no fun here without you since we haven’t heard from @Thatguy all day. 

[NashLonghorn 312]

2 hours ago, Longhornlove said:

Almost like trying to make VY a pocket passer? Thanks Jeff Fisher and early Greg Davis.

Living in Nashville since 1993, Jeff Fisher is a mother fucking cunt after what he did to VY while he was here.  VY had some issues sure but Fisher so hated VY and the fact that Bud Adams forced him to pick VY verses Matt Lienert, who he wanted, it seemed his purpose in life was to prove Bud Adams wrong and helped destroy the franchise and it's never recovered and now we are building a $2,000,000,000 stadium complex to lure the Super Bowl here.😑  Fisher the prick is still tied at number 1 with 165 losses and also has a whopping 51% winning percentage....fucker.

[F250 29,287]

4 hours ago, Longhornlove said:

Is that supposed to be some kind of dig? Dude was an all pro NFL 1st round pick that made almost 200 million dollars.

And aggy used him as a wide receiver the majority of his time in college station.

 

[C-Man 27,915]

3 hours ago, immamac said:

I didn't say Sark was holding Quinn back. I said Sark doesn't have an offense that fits a gunslinger. 

Sark took Quinn because everything else on the roster and committed was a dropoff and it locked down a class. He was raw and it was a good enough fit. 

In a perfect world Sark has a very high football IQ, mostly pocket passer with a bit of getaway in him. 

JJ McCarthy would have been a bad sark fit, Caleb Williams and Kyler Murray also terrible fits. The run around in the backfield and throw a guy open type of QB is not what Sarks philosophy of the game is. 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1429865-the-nfl-quarterback-spectrum-analyzing-the-various-models-for-success

Its not a lark to think quinn may benefit from a staff that lets him gunslinger as that's his natural style 

I get your point but I think Sark would do just fine with Caleb Williams or Kyler Murray, especially Kyler.

[Hank_Hill 20,151]

This shit is a tire fire

[El Hornarino 378]

7 hours ago, Had Enough said:

The obvious and clear jump in the Sark era is on the defensive side of the ball.

 

6 hours ago, Had Enough said:

So are you on the Sark is a mastermind or not so much?  USC was too long ago.  The Bama rankings and our rankings are part the reason for the question.  Talent-wise we’re comparable.  Physically Ewers is better than Mac.

I am not one to say the HC can’t be the play caller, but there’s enough to question right here, right now whether Sark needs to fulfill both roles.

I'm underwhelmed, given this is year four.  It is not a single position group or player on offense that is the entire problem.

It's a good thing the defense has been elite.

[Tex Long 4,725]

5 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

This shit is a tire fire

Random Tire thread in Lulz forum, over yonder.

[BigHornedLurker 2,218]

6 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

This shit is a tire fire

At least it's contained 

[deft 7,112]

It takes the hottest of tire fires to meld quarters

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2 hours ago, C-Man said:

I get your point but I think Sark would do just fine with Caleb Williams or Kyler Murray, especially Kyler.

Fucking Jeff Fisher couldn't fuck up Kyler Murray in college. That kid was a freak. 

[Hank_Hill 20,151]

40 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Fucking Jeff Fisher couldn't fuck up Kyler Murray in college. That kid was a freak. 

Kevin Sumlin says hold my beer

[Funk Doctor Spock 13,313]

1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said:

Kevin Sumlin says hold my beer

Kyler actually told Sumlin to fuck off and he was transferring, so he did have some balls and common sense back then. 

[CurlyDumps 4,694]

1 hour ago, Hank_Hill said:

Kevin Sumlin says hold my beer

[BurntOrange&White 42,046]

Sark's offense isn't that complicated. Most of it is same plays from a lot of formations with some window dressing pre-snap. The most complicated part of it is that it is progression based passing and when your QB isn't a great progression based passer or processor of what he's seeing it will suffer, as we've seen. Rod Babers had an interesting stat about how successful our offense is when we have something like 50-60%+ presnap movement, IMO that movement helps Quinn analyze what he's seeing from the defense. Once that goes away or we have non PA/RPO his ability to process goes out the window.

Edited yesterday at 02:21 PM by BurntOrange&White

[Hook1997 5,552]

Elko admitted in his press conference yesterday they can’t stop the forward pass very well and need to work on it next year.  We had 218 passing yards against them, lower than only two other P5 teams they played.  Sure we ran the ball for 243 yards.  We also didn’t top that number a few times this year.  I bet we don’t go below that number more than once if that next year..  Ewers limitations with injury or whatever have definitely been holding the offense back a lot this year.  

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6 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

Elko admitted in his press conference yesterday they can’t stop the forward pass very well and need to work on it next year.  We had 218 passing yards against them, lower than only two other P5 teams they played.  Sure we ran the ball for 243 yards.  We also didn’t top that number a few times this year.  I bet we don’t go below that number more than once if that next year..  Ewers limitations with injury or whatever have definitely been holding the offense back a lot this year.  

Health wise he’s 70% at best.  Just looks different 

[Huckleberry 34,979]

1 hour ago, Hook1997 said:

Elko admitted in his press conference yesterday they can’t stop the forward pass very well and need to work on it next year.  We had 218 passing yards against them, lower than only two other P5 teams they played.  Sure we ran the ball for 243 yards.  We also didn’t top that number a few times this year.  I bet we don’t go below that number more than once if that next year..  Ewers limitations with injury or whatever have definitely been holding the offense back a lot this year.  

USC threw for 295 yards. Texas threw for 218.

Texas had 7.8 yards per attempt (28 attempts) compared to USC's 7.6 (39 attempts). You all know that total yardage is a terrible stat for making performance comparisons but you will certainly use it to confirm your preconceived biases.

Edited 23 hours ago by Huckleberry

[The Ace of Aces 5,419]

Quinn’s never going to win people over with his personality / interview style, which is fine, but he looks and sounds like he’d rather be in a billion different places than this today’s media availability 

 

 

[sith_horn 2,579]

13 minutes ago, The Ace of Aces said:

Quinn’s never going to win people over with his personality / interview style, which is fine, but he looks and sounds like he’d rather be in a billion different places than this today’s media availability

While he doesn't come across as enthusiastic or glowing, I thought he generally gave good answers to the questions. I liked how he handled the Deandre Moore question @ 5:16 in particular.

[The Ace of Aces 5,419]

7 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

While he doesn't come across as enthusiastic or glowing, I thought he generally gave good answers to the questions. I liked how he handled the Deandre Moore question @ 5:16 in particular.

Agreed and I should have said as much. The opening questions about Arch are terrible and would’ve pissed me off and I’d have sis something dumb and rude. 

[Hank_Hill 20,151]

3 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

Elko admitted in his press conference yesterday they can’t stop the forward pass very well and need to work on it next year.  We had 218 passing yards against them, lower than only two other P5 teams they played.  Sure we ran the ball for 243 yards.  We also didn’t top that number a few times this year.  I bet we don’t go below that number more than once if that next year..  Ewers limitations with injury or whatever have definitely been holding the offense back a lot this year.  

Not relevant at all!

[sith_horn 2,579]

1 minute ago, The Ace of Aces said:

Agreed and I should have said as much. The opening questions about Arch are terrible and would’ve pissed me off and I’d have sis something dumb and rude. 

I disliked the question about Arch. There's a million other more relevant questions to ask Quinn, IMO. That one would have been better put to Sark or Arch himself, IMO.

[Hook1997 5,552]

1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

USC threw for 295 yards. Texas threw for 218.

Texas had 7.8 yards per attempt (28 attempts) compared to USC's 7.6 (39 attempts). You all know that total yardage is a terrible stat for making performance comparisons but you will certainly use it to confirm your preconceived biases.

USC QB was pretty terrible, they just had people wide open at the end. Most of those yards came while playing from behind and chuncking the ball in the fourth. Point was we won’t come close to games with such low passing yard totals next year. It’s not bias, Quinn is down 50 yards per game average from last year…  I wish he was half living up to all the hype as much as anyone else, but he’s not and has held the offense back.  He’s been serviceable this year and a game manager, the people saying otherwise are the ones with blind biases. 

Edited 21 hours ago by Hook1997

[Jkwellborn 7,147]

Quinn’s never going to win people over with his personality / interview style, which is fine, but he looks and sounds like he’d rather be in a billion different places than this today’s media availability 
 
 

Absolute dick question asking him about Arch being able to take over. wtf.

Was all of this scripted or was someone feeding him answers on a teleprompter? He kept his eyes in the same spot.

[Hank Kingsley 21,885]

I just want to reiterate how much I hate every sports columnist at the AAS. Got rid of Bohls and it still sucks shit through a straw. Whoever has been in charge there all these years is a disgrace. 

 

 

[perfectchaos007 6,794]

 

Locker room Billboard material?

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3 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

 

Locker room Billboard material?

Fuck that kid.  And fuck them reporters

[Hank_Hill 20,151]

37 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

Point was we won’t come close to games with such low passing yard totals next year. 

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47 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

I disliked the question about Arch. There's a million other more relevant questions to ask Quinn, IMO. That one would have been better put to Sark or Arch himself, IMO.

I don’t know the question or the answer but if the question was anything about pressure or back up ready to go I’d simply say, 

“look man, you’ve got a clickbait article to write, I get it. But we’ve got a championship to win. Arch is my friend, he’s going to be amazing for us next year and beyond, but this team? This fucking team right here, right now? This is my team and we are about to go out there and play in the quarterfinals so why don’t you ask me a question about the game and stop being a putz.”

Edited 21 hours ago by troph

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1 hour ago, troph said:

I don’t know the question or the answer but if the question was anything about pressure or back up ready to go I’d simply say, 

“look man, you’ve got a clickbait article to write, I get it. But we’ve got a championship to win. Arch is my friend, he’s going to be amazing for us next year and beyond, but this team? This fucking team right here, right now? This is my team and we are about to go out there and play in the quarterfinals so why don’t you ask me a question about the game and stop being a putz.”

Jkwellborn put it a lot better than I did. It was an absolute dick question to ask Quinn.

Despite that, Quinn handled the question rather well.

[scottsins 2,062]

 
Locker room Billboard material?

Material for what purpose? To make them try harder? Lol. It’s a playoff game.

[Jkwellborn 7,147]

I don’t know the question or the answer but if the question was anything about pressure or back up ready to go I’d simply say, 
“look man, you’ve got a clickbait article to write, I get it. But we’ve got a championship to win. Arch is my friend, he’s going to be amazing for us next year and beyond, but this team? This fucking team right here, right now? This is my team and we are about to go out there and play in the quarterfinals so why don’t you ask me a question about the game and stop being a putz.”

He was asked a question that should have gone to sark. The second question of the availability was something about How far along is arch, how much better is he since he got there and can he take over? Some wild shit like that.

[BigHornedLurker 2,218]

I'm really looking forward to this dumb ass thread continuing on for the next 20 years 

[dcar00 15,135]

7 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

USC threw for 295 yards. Texas threw for 218.

Texas had 7.8 yards per attempt (28 attempts) compared to USC's 7.6 (39 attempts). You all know that total yardage is a terrible stat for making performance comparisons but you will certainly use it to confirm your preconceived biases.

my favorite is "sure we ran for 243 yards".  holy fuck I hope we say that every game.  I won't give a shit what the passing stats are.

USC ran for 105 at a pedestrian 3.4 per carry.

[jimmyjazz 47,469]

10 hours ago, scottsins said:

Material for what purpose? To make them try harder? Lol. It’s a playoff game.

Not to mention it's not exactly controversial.  A QB who speaks confidently and who wants to prove himself as being better than the other guy?  Shocking!

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11 hours ago, scottsins said:

Material for what purpose? To make them try harder? Lol. It’s a playoff game.

I'll take any extra bit of motivation a dumbfuck is willing to gift. I'd rather Quinn not say something like that. I guarantee the defense is talking about it.

[BurntOrange&White 42,046]

11 hours ago, scottsins said:

Material for what purpose? To make them try harder? Lol. It’s a playoff game.

 

49 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Not to mention it's not exactly controversial.  A QB who speaks confidently and who wants to prove himself as being better than the other guy?  Shocking!

Colin Simmons must have taken offense to it because he reposted it. But sure push your narrative!

[scottsins 2,062]

Colin Simmons must have taken offense to it because he reposted it. But sure push your narrative!

I’m sure he did take offense to it. That has nothing to do with the words I typed though.

What narrative am I pushing with the most you are replying to?

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2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Not to mention it's not exactly controversial.  A QB who speaks confidently and who wants to prove himself as being better than the other guy?  Shocking!

I haven’t really heard qbs say t something like that. 

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12 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:

He was asked a question that should have gone to sark. The second question of the availability was something about How far along is arch, how much better is he since he got there and can he take over? Some wild shit like that.

Yeah I didn’t listen because that kinda crap makes me ragey.

[Jkwellborn 7,147]

Yeah I didn’t listen because that kinda crap makes me ragey.

I just listened to the first couple of questions. I’m not a fan of watching any media availability because it’s mostly generic coach speak and guys saying um a lot. It was an absolute dick move by the reporter and I kinda wish Quinn had talked some shit to him. It wasn’t the right thing to do, but I would have been ok with it. I kinda wish Sark had addressed it too.

[Tex Long 4,725]

23 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

I just listened to the first couple of questions. I’m not a fan of watching any media availability because it’s mostly generic coach speak and guys saying um a lot. It was an absolute dick move by the reporter and I kinda wish Quinn had talked some shit to him. It wasn’t the right thing to do, but I would have been ok with it. I kinda wish Sark had addressed it too.

Thank you. I might have listened to it - or some of it, anyway - but thanks to you and some others, I didn't have to.

In retrospect, I probably wouldn't have, because you're right, these "media availability" sessions are almost universally worthless, and at least half of them have such poor handling of the acoustics that one cannot understand more than a word or two of the questions. I'm not sure why about half of them are even allowed inthe room.

[Hank Kingsley 21,885]

Just thinking about this ASU game and potential matchup vs. Oregon or Ohio State, I hope Sark puts together a game plan for Quinn to let it rip vs. the Sun Devils. 

Quinn did some very nice things in 2nd UGA game and successfully handled the game manager passing attack vs. Clemson. He's also getting healthier and should be walking into the Peach Bowl with a lot of confidence. We might not need aggressive Quinn to beat ASU, but we'll probably need it against OSU or Oregon. With the expectation that we can run the ball well, this is a good game to open up things and take more shots down the field. I'd rather see us successfully stretch the field now instead of holding it back and hoping it  works later on vs. better competition.