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7 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

In terms of where Quinn falls among the UT greats, I absolutely agree.  But I don't think there's many comparable "make this throw or the season is over" moments in Longhorn history, regardless of what happens the rest of the way.

Go back and watch the 2005 and 2009 season and get back to me.

You're suffering from memory loss.

It might not be specifically "make this throw or the season is over" but it sure as shit was make this play or our season is over for both VY and Colt on those seasons. I already noted 3 for VY in 2005. 

And if we're talking make this play or our season is over, our D had fucking 4 of them yesterday.

Again, I'm NOT taking away from Quinn at the end of the game nor OT but there is already revisionist history from the game yesterday and Quinn hasn't even gotten to the National Championship game yet.

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5 minutes ago, 89Horn said:

Agree with all you said. 

But, counterpoint:  I can still vividly picture James Brown on roll left.  Your response was to a question about where one fits in “Longhorns lore.”  That fits in Longhorns lore to me.  Meh team, but yeah, still won first Big XII that then lost in the Fiesta.

Fair point. Very fair point. And I'll accept that reality. However, while it wasn't for a National Championship it WAS for a Conference championship so.. 

I'll clarify, my bigger issue wasn't in historical longhorn lore. Rather the comparison to Colt and as to the gravity in the bigger picture of Longhorn lore.

It's big, absolutely. And it was mad clutch. 

I just take issue with it being at a Colt or VY level, for now. Rather than James Brown level.

I HOPE it gets to that level and if we proceed past OSU I really think it will.

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3 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Go back and watch the 2005 and 2009 season and get back to me.

You're suffering from memory loss.

It might not be specifically "make this throw or the season is over" but it sure as shit was make this play or our season is over for both VY and Colt on those seasons. I already noted 3 for VY in 2005. 

And if we're talking make this play or our season is over, our D had fucking 4 of them yesterday.

Again, I'm NOT taking away from Quinn at the end of the game nor OT but there is already revisionist history from the game yesterday and Quinn hasn't even gotten to the National Championship game yet.

Yeah I mean the goal wasn't to get into an argument over semantics, but I chose the word "pass" purposefully, rather than "play made by a QB."  

I'm not saying it's a top 5 moment in program history or anything, but I do think it's one of the most important PASSES we've seen from a QB wearing burnt orange.

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25 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Absolutely. As much shit as I've given Quinn, and all of it has been true for me and that doesn't change, he dropped his nuts in overtime on that play and the very next play to take the lead for good. And then the 2pt was absolutely perfect placement.

 

He dropped his nuts on the last 2 possessions of regular time too. It's not his fault our FG kicker sucks. 

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Just now, Chuckie Finster said:

Yeah I mean the goal wasn't to get into an argument over semantics, but I chose the word "pass" purposefully, rather than "play made by a QB."  

I'm not saying it's a top 5 moment in program history or anything, but I do think it's one of the most important PASSES we've seen from a QB wearing burnt orange.

Fair. 

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5 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Yeah I mean the goal wasn't to get into an argument over semantics, but I chose the word "pass" purposefully, rather than "play made by a QB."  

I'm not saying it's a top 5 moment in program history or anything, but I do think it's one of the most important PASSES we've seen from a QB wearing burnt orange.

I think it's probably the second best passing play in program history.

 

1 Street to Peschel to basically win a national title in 69

2 Quinn 4th and 13 to win a CFP matchup - Being a playoff game gives it the notch over roll left

3. Roll Left to win a big 12 title

4 Colt to Cosby to win the Fiesta Bowl

5 Vince to Sweed at the shoe at night!

 

Maybe I'm forgetting some but those are the biggest I can think of.

 

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12 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I think it's probably the second best passing play in program history.

 

1 Street to Peschel to basically win a national title in 69

2 Quinn 4th and 13 to win a CFP matchup - Being a playoff game gives it the notch over roll left

3. Roll Left to win a big 12 title

4 Colt to Cosby to win the Fiesta Bowl

5 Vince to Sweed at the shoe at night!

 

Maybe I'm forgetting some but those are the biggest I can think of.

 

That's a pretty solid list. I'd probably push the OSU pass into 2nd spot as they were #4 at the time and ended the season #4 with a convincing win over ND in the Fiesta. OSU's only other loss being Penn State (who ended at #3 with a single loss to Michigan and a win oved FSU in the Orange) that year. But 2 or 3, subjective. Just that game at OSU was a HUGE win early in the season.

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1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

That's a pretty solid list. I'd probably push the OSU pass into 2nd spot as they were #4 at the time and ended the season #4 with a convincing win over ND in the Fiesta. OSU's only other loss being Penn State that year. But 2 or 3, subjective. Just that game at OSU was a HUGE win early in the season.

I don't think it's that subjective between a college football playoff win and a BCS bowl. IMO the CFP win is clearly the bigger game and moment. 

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Without looking myself, I don’t think comparing ewers to colt right now is laughable at all with respect to their careers at texas. Especially if you only use colt’s 06-08 seasons as direct correlation to ewers’ 22-24 as rs fr thru jr seasons. 
 

you guys want to tell me what colt has done that is so far beyond what Quinn has?

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3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I don't think it's that subjective between a college football playoff win and a BCS bowl. IMO the CFP win is clearly the bigger game and moment. 

Well... you have to reflect back to the world at that time. 

We lose to OSU, we don't play USC most likely OSU or PSU gets slotted in above us. With a head to head loss, Texas isn't getting in over a 1 loss OSU or a 1 loss PSU at the time. 

So..  it sort of WAS a playoff game before the playoffs existed.

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50 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

The 2025 season/chapter is not yet finished. I'm taking nothing from the clutch that was Quinn’s pass on 4th and 13. It was amazing and fantastic. BUT... before we start saying he or that play are Colt level.. MAYBE we should see if we PLAY for a National Championship first. Not win, but get to one. Little bit of a speed bump prior to that goal.

Idk, if someone hits a shot to send your basketball team to the final four, is it forgotten and not worth mentioning if you don’t win the title that year?  Those plays get remembered regardless 

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3 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Without looking myself, I don’t think comparing ewers to colt right now is laughable at all with respect to their careers at texas. Especially if you only use colt’s 06-08 seasons as direct correlation to ewers’ 22-24 as rs fr thru jr seasons. 
 

you guys want to tell me what colt has done that is so far beyond what Quinn has?

Gotten Texas to a National Championship game.

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17 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I think it's probably the second best passing play in program history.

 

1 Street to Peschel to basically win a national title in 69

2 Quinn 4th and 13 to win a CFP matchup - Being a playoff game gives it the notch over roll left

3. Roll Left to win a big 12 title

4 Colt to Cosby to win the Fiesta Bowl

5 Vince to Sweed at the shoe at night!

 

Maybe I'm forgetting some but those are the biggest I can think of.

 

Not on the same level but Gardere to Johnny Walker in the Texas/OU game and Stafford to Jones at Arkansas are all time great plays. 

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if you don't have stafford to jones in Fayetteville and Gardere to cash and Gardere to Johnny Walker both versus OU on your list then your memory is suspect.   basically to have meaning it has to be a win or go home, championship or rivalry game.  these three all qualify for the latter.

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6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Idk, if someone hits a shot to send your basketball team to the final four, is it forgotten and not worth mentioning if you don’t win the title that year?  Those plays get remembered regardless 

Not saying it won't be remembered. 

See my posts after.. 

Let's talk all time Texas pass play comparisons to 4th and 13 cause THAT is a fun topic. 

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28 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Fair point. Very fair point. And I'll accept that reality. However, while it wasn't for a National Championship it WAS for a Conference championship so.. 

Gotcha, and still agree with your original point.  If the standard is a quintessential moment and Texas goes on and wins it all, 4th and 13 will be lore.  

 

 

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4 minutes ago, troph said:

if you don't have stafford to jones in Fayetteville and Gardere to cash and Gardere to Johnny Walker both versus OU on your list then your memory is suspect.  all three of those qualify because of rivalry.  basically to have meaning it has to be a win or go home, championship or rivalry game.  these three all qualify for the latter.

Still can picture Tony Jones pumping his fist in the end zone and Ken Hatfield throwing his headset to the ground after the catch.  
 

Gardere still owns OU.

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31 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

He dropped his nuts on the last 2 possessions of regular time too. It's not his fault our FG kicker sucks. 

That terrible interception that gave ASU even more life kind of clouded my memory of the final 2 drives, coupled with the missed FGs. But yes, he did make some good passes on those drives, especially the very last drive. Not sure why Sark committed to the FG so early after that very long pass with how inconsistent Auburn has been. Still not sure he fully trusts Quinn but I wasn't a fan of that run call right after the long gain. ASU's defense was reeling and I think we could have gotten another chunk play or maybe even score a TD to end it. Especially seeing we still had a timeout left and clock stops on 1st downs.

But we are done with the cupcakes of the playoffs in Clemson and Arizona State. Stuff Quinn has been getting away is going to much more difficult against Ohio State. It seems we start reeling once we get up early. Doubt we get a big early lead next week and that could be the best thing for us. Forces Sark and the offense to know they have to keep up with the great Ohio St offense. The 3rd qtr against ASU wore this defense down and they started getting bigger runs as the game went along. Same thing that happened in the SEC champ game. Defense just ran out of juice because the offense wasn't pulling their weight.

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4 hours ago, UTEE97 said:

Didn't Bond high point the catch in the end zone when Bama beat Auburn that made him famous? That was a beautiful throw by Milroe though.

 

 

That's great and all but he hasn't done that here. Even yesterday you are running step for step with the DB and you try to basket catch it while the DB goes up and gets it. That's all we've seen from him this year. It was a bad throw by Quinn but go up and knock it down or do something. Golden would fight for that ball.

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27 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Not sure why Sark committed to the FG so early after that very long pass with how inconsistent Auburn has been

I love Sark, but the decision making in the last 35 seconds with one timeout in your pocket, a fresh set of downs, and on the fringe of your shaky kicker’s range was just baffling. 

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4 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I think Chris Jackson is recruiting that and pushing for those types of players. 

 

2024
Wingo 6'2 210
Livingstone 6'3 190(apparently he's really coming on in practice according to insiders and should push for PT next year)
Golden(Transfer) 6'1 190

Even though Silas is only 5'9 he plays larger than his size IMO and has a bigger catch radius than Bond.

2025
Michael Terry(Practicing receiver currently) 6'3 215
Lockett 6'2 175 - Nice jump ball high school receiver.
Ffrench 6'1 - People comp him to AD Mitchell
McCutcheon is our Moore type slot guy for the class at 5'11


 

Bolden is getting the DJ Monroe treatment on offense. I feel for the guy because I think there are uses for him. I don't think Golden is honestly over 6ft but he plays big. Big receivers make QBs look good. Look and Allar and his tight end he is simply lobbing balls up to and dude comes down with them. Look at Ohio State. Ridiculous catch radius across the board. They always have receivers like that. People forgot about this dude. We let him get out of the state. We wanna be on top for a long time we need A-list skill players.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Yeah, this is why I definitely believe the rumors of us being involved with Noah Thomas. 

Man as long as we wash the aggy filth off him. I mean like stand him near the gutter and spray him down naked. Then we have to deprogram him because 8&4 isn't a thing here.

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25 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

That terrible interception that gave ASU even more life kind of clouded my memory of the final 2 drives, coupled with the missed FGs. But yes, he did make some good passes on those drives, especially the very last drive. Not sure why Sark committed to the FG so early after that very long pass with how inconsistent Auburn has been. Still not sure he fully trusts Quinn but I wasn't a fan of that run call right after the long gain. ASU's defense was reeling and I think we could have gotten another chunk play or maybe even score a TD to end it. Especially seeing we still had a timeout left and clock stops on 1st downs.

But we are done with the cupcakes of the playoffs in Clemson and Arizona State. Stuff Quinn has been getting away is going to much more difficult against Ohio State. It seems we start reeling once we get up early. Doubt we get a big early lead next week and that could be the best thing for us. Forces Sark and the offense to know they have to keep up with the great Ohio St offense. The 3rd qtr against ASU wore this defense down and they started getting bigger runs as the game went along. Same thing that happened in the SEC champ game. Defense just ran out of juice because the offense wasn't pulling their weight.

Agree. To me, the goal for this season was not to beat an ASU, it's to beat the teams that are a notch above them. Quinn underthrew two or three long (what would have been) TD passes. Was that arm strength, or maybe a lingering ankle/leg strength problem? Add to that his reluctance to take the quick 5-10 yards on a scramble and we got a problem against OSU. Quinn can't outrace a linebacker to the sidelines.

OTOH, he made some terrific plays yesterday. Kuddos for those, but he needs to kick it up a notch to get past OSU. We need to be done with these Dead Zone Quarters when the offense falls apart. Part of it is on Sark. Maybe he needs to ask more of Quinn? He gave him several chances at the long ball. Quinn got one out of maybe 3 or 4. Maybe add 3-4 RPOs/quick runs. Might open up the field a little more.

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43 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Don't go outside. Run middle screens and crossing routes. 

Largely agree, but one thing that has bothered me this year - we saw ASU throw at least one swing pass where the entire side of the field was open. Whenever we run a swing, it seems like it is to the side where we have two receivers and 2-3 defenders. I'd like to see a couple of those open field type swings reminiscent of Emmett Smith Cowboys.

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55 minutes ago, Skipper said:

I feel like yesterday's game was the complete 2024 Texas Longhorn Football experience in every way.  Big lead blown, shitty officiating, 3rd quarter meltdown, missed kicks, and obviously that applies to 3's game as well.  Watching the 2nd half (and particularly after yet another underthrown deep ball pick that should have never been thrown) I felt myself, like everyone I'm sure, feeling like I was so glad to be moving on to Arch and seeing what he could do next season.  Then QE comes up with the most clutch and elite QB play we've seen at QB in over a decade and follows that up with 2 absolute dimes for another TD and 2 PT conversion.  Just amazing.  And yes, obviously the story is still being written and I hope Quinn has even bigger moments the next 2 weeks, but glad he will always have that.  Just pure fucking nails when it mattered the most.

The read on the int wasn't bad. Bond was open. He puts some mustard on it and that is a TD. He threw slightly late and with not enough velocity. 

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51 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Don't go outside. Run middle screens and crossing routes. 

outside zone is the staple of his offense and what everything is built off of.  if we can't run OZ it is usually going to be a long day against good teams.

Our D has given Sark cover that our run game is suspect against good fronts.  suspect meaning we can get shut down sub 80 yards.  I wonder if Williams being out is a problem.  Goosby seems good but not sure about run block v pass block.

sans the first Georgia game, Quinn/Sark have been able to ham and egg it pretty good with the running game. 

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6 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

outside zone is the staple of his offense and what everything is built off of.  if we can't run OZ it is usually going to be a long day against good teams.

Our D has given Sark cover that our run game is suspect against good fronts.  suspect meaning we can get shut down sub 80 yards.  I wonder if Williams being out is a problem.  Goosby seems good but not sure about run block v pass block.

sans the first Georgia game, Quinn/Sark have been able to ham and egg it pretty good with the running game. 

We have to be able to punish teams for slanting on our outside zone plays. Normally, you'd expect that punishment to come when they slant the wrong way and we bust one for a 75 yard TD. Neither Georgia or ASU ever guessed incorrectly, which means neither was guessing. That is our problem. We slightly seemed to address it in game by lining up in the pistol and then motioning the back late. That's why the run opened up a bit in the 4th. 

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39 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

outside zone is the staple of his offense and what everything is built off of.  if we can't run OZ it is usually going to be a long day against good teams.

Our D has given Sark cover that our run game is suspect against good fronts.  suspect meaning we can get shut down sub 80 yards.  I wonder if Williams being out is a problem.  Goosby seems good but not sure about run block v pass block.

sans the first Georgia game, Quinn/Sark have been able to ham and egg it pretty good with the running game. 

Well, when I say don't go outside, I intended running. We run complex slow developing runs up the middle it fails then run outside. With the speed were are going to see at LB and safety thats going to continue to be unsuccessful moving forward. I'm not saying forgo the outside zone entirely but a lot of big pass plays this year were across the middle. Do it more often and mix in some middle middle screens occasionally at least. 2-3 per game and use that pretty spectacular TE we have in crossing on play action over the middle more often. Maybe some shotgun with down blocking.

The DCs won't have that on tape. 

There are others here that can speak more intelligently than I can to these options but damn, I can even see they would be beneficial.

Edit - Also, i see that fucking SUPER SLOW developing twirl a whirl dance dance revolution fucking play ONE more God damn time I'm likely to break something or suffer a stroke.

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1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Ohio St runs the Sark/Quinn nightmare fuel defense the cover 3 high....except they have Ohio St caliber athletes. We HAVE to run the ball against them, no matter what.

I think we see Sark fully  unload the bag for this game as this is game will likely be the one that crowns the champion. The other side of the bracket should not scare anyone playing/coaching in this game. 

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