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Just now, jimmyjazz said:

I rewatched the game yesterday, and one play that seemed to get under fans' skin was the safety on Quinn.  In reality, that could have changed the game had he not reached out and grabbed the fumble.  It looked bad, but it was the best possible (bad) outcome.  Otherwise, ASU would have recovered it for a touchdown.

I dont think he makes it out of the end zone, but it was odd to go down. I didnt go back and watch it, but remember thinking why didnt make an attempt to get out of the endzone.

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Just now, Codaxx said:

I think Texas has reached a point where even in a rebuilding year, they will be solid. I believe the floor on this program is 9 wins.

Well, I intended "bad" as relative. I think 8-9 is absolutely worst case and 10 wins or more far more likely. We've got a pretty heavy schedule so anything above 10 wins is a successful season, imo. Too many changes to expect a lot more.

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Goosby's minutes are a blessing in disguise for sure.  I'm not saying it's a net positive to lose Banks and Williams for multiple games, but going into next year Trevor is definitely going to be a lot more seasoned.

He  had a bad game run blocking vs ASU. You right it is a blessing. Anytime back-ups get significant time and dont cost the team a game, it is a positive.

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Just now, Codaxx said:

He  had a bad game run blocking vs ASU. You right it is a blessing. Anytime back-ups get significant time and dont cost the team a game, it is a positive.

I think being at RT vs LT affected his run blocking. He looked much better run blocking from the left. It's hard to swing back and forth like that. Remember Kelvin looking like shit at the all star game when he volunteered to play RT.

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1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

I dont think he makes it out of the end zone, but it was odd to go down. I didnt go back and watch it, but remember thinking why didnt make an attempt to get out of the endzone.

There was a weird hesitation when he picked up the ball, glanced up field briefly, looked back at the ground, glanced up, took a step or maybe 2, then went down. At least that's what I recall. Need to re-watch it myself.

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1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

I think Texas has reached a point where even in a rebuilding year, they will be solid. I believe the floor on this program is 9 wins.

With our schedule next year, it should be. Ohio St, Georgia and Florida on the road will be tough. That’s really it. A&M and OU will both be bad teams next year. 

I agree with your overall point that next year’s offensive line is a huge question mark.

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Just now, Reynolds Woodcock said:

With our schedule next year, it should be. Ohio St, Georgia and Florida on the road will be tough. That’s really it. A&M and OU will both be bad teams next year. 

I agree with your overall point that next year’s offensive line is a huge question mark.

Ohio state will lose 8 players off their defense. Early on that game is a complete toss up considering both teams will be essentially retooling both sides of the ball. 

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1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

There was a weird hesitation when he picked up the ball, glanced up field briefly, looked back at the ground, glanced up, took a step or maybe 2, then went down. At least that's what I recall. Need to re-watch it myself.

I need to get aroudn to re-watching, because I still do not know what I saw. Such a strange game

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5 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

He  had a bad game run blocking vs ASU. You right it is a blessing. Anytime back-ups get significant time and dont cost the team a game, it is a positive.

He really had a rough game all around. It was tough to watch, I thought his athleticism would shine against these kinds of guys, but he was lunging and his hands were getting displaced way more than in any other showing.

Too bad we didn't get the memo that holding was legal in this game. 

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2 minutes ago, Atticus said:

He really had a rough game all around. It was tough to watch, I thought his athleticism would shine against these kinds of guys, but he was lunging and his hands were getting displaced way more than in any other showing.

Too bad we didn't get the memo that holding was legal in this game. 

It's difficult to swing from left to right...it's like trying to wipe your ass with your left hand if you're right handed.

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3 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I thought he has more room to run to his left. After watching it a couple of times, the time he took to process it, get moving, it appears too late for any other options.

 

You're also forgetting that Quinn is slow. He is 5 yards deep in the endzone with a surprise ball in his hands. He has had no chance to do anything there but go down. 

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5 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

You're also forgetting that Quinn is slow. He is 5 yards deep in the endzone with a surprise ball in his hands. He has had no chance to do anything there but go down. 

I specifically addressed just that in my post. I've cut and pasted it below to help you.

the time he took to process it

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Yeah, that was a heads-up play to save 5 points.  Stupid playcall by Sark, but also was annoyed we had Skaterbro hit and he got extra yards that caused it to be snapped so close to the EZ.  Think if we get him on that first hit, it would have been less of a bad call. 

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25 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I dont think he makes it out of the end zone, but it was odd to go down. I didnt go back and watch it, but remember thinking why didnt make an attempt to get out of the endzone.

Because he had 5 guys coming at him and the entire offensive line was turned around watching it happen.

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4 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I thought he has more room to run to his left. After watching it a couple of times, the time he took to process it, get moving, it appears too late for any other options.

 

Even that screenshot is deceptive.  If you watch it live, the defender just to the left of Golden in that screenshot (#8, I think) immediately crosses behind Golden and completely shut down that running lane, even if Quinn had made a quicker decision to run.  Was just a busted play from the start.

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33 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I rewatched the game yesterday, and one play that seemed to get under fans' skin was the safety on Quinn.  In reality, that could have changed the game had he not reached out and grabbed the fumble.  It looked bad, but it was the best possible (bad) outcome.  Otherwise, ASU would have recovered it for a touchdown.

Yeah, that was a heads-up play by Quinn to save a touchdown.  He wasn’t the one who fumbled the ball

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2 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Even that screenshot is deceptive.  If you watch it live, the defender just to the left of Golden in that screenshot (#8, I think) immediately crosses behind Golden and completely shut down that running lane, even if Quinn had made a quicker decision to run.  Was just a busted play from the start.

Yeah that lane closed down after Quinn started forward and that's when he went down. 

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18 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I specifically addressed just that in my post. I've cut and pasted it below to help you.

the time he took to process it

I mean he is physically slow. Processing time has nothing to do with it. He isn't getting up field there. He isn't physically fast enough. 

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

I rewatched the game yesterday, and one play that seemed to get under fans' skin was the safety on Quinn.  In reality, that could have changed the game had he not reached out and grabbed the fumble.  It looked bad, but it was the best possible (bad) outcome.  Otherwise, ASU would have recovered it for a touchdown.

yeah.. at the time, i was like Quinn!!! dump it/throw it!!!

looking back, there was a lot for one player to process in about 1.2 seconds... a totally unpredictable series of events happened there very quickly.

lucky it was just only 2 points given.

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55 minutes ago, FartingMonk said:

I thought the same thing but watching the replay.  He grabs the ball and falls forward.  But also there was 5 defenders converging on him and was going to destroy him.  The best outcome was for him to go down and take the safety 

And not get hurt trying to get it out of the endzone.  It was really the smartest thing he could have done at the time.

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9 minutes ago, satyanash said:

 

Surprised that wasnt Will Howard. Just an aside, I would love to see PFF do a video on their grading system. Their overall hate of Ewers' season is beyond anything you even see here. I love to figure out why

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1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

I tend to think people over-estimate new starters, especially on fan sites. I hope you are right. I think there will be some ups and downs next year. Lots of new faces along the LOS

The OL is tricky because it's one of the few positions on the field you rarely rotate at outside of injury, so when you are replacing a starter heading into a season, unless you are shuffling the OL and moving another starter into their spot, someone with quite a bit of unknown is usually next up. 

It's why we are pretty fortunate to have someone like Cole Hutson who started an entire season in 2022 but has been a backup the last two years. He isn't a great player right now but he offers a relatively solid floor that someone like Baker or Neto may not have because we just haven't seen them much (at all?) against frontline competition. 

I wouldn't hate the idea to explore the portal for some depth at OT, but that is easier said than done in the OL portal market. The ones worth pursuing usually aren't going places to compete for jobs. We let Neto bake in the oven for 3 years, is it worth it to potentially throw that out and go get a portal guard? If you bring in an OT does that push out a younger guy on campus? It's a tough balancing act, especially when we haven't had much attrition along the OL the last few years.

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1 hour ago, FartingMonk said:

I thought the same thing but watching the replay.  He grabs the ball and falls forward.  But also there was 5 defenders converging on him and was going to destroy him.  The best outcome was for him to go down and take the safety 

 

1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

The only non-safety option was throwing it away either sailing it over Davis or into the ground next to Golden but that is expecting unreasonably quick thinking plus that the refs still wouldn't have called it grounding.

Yeah, glad the ball popped right back to Quinn. The only thing he could've done was quickly fling it away but he was inside the tackles and it would almost certainly have been ruled intentional grounding in the endzone and a safety. Just blindly throwing the ball out also could easily end up in the hands of a ASU DB/LB for a walk-in TD. That play was a complete shit sandwich -- Quinn elected to simply take a bite, not eat the entire sandie.

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35 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Surprised that wasnt Will Howard. Just an aside, I would love to see PFF do a video on their grading system. Their overall hate of Ewers' season is beyond anything you even see here. I love to figure out why

Probably getting dinged for the deep balls.  I've stanned for Quinn, but his deep balls are down right ugly.

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1 minute ago, Fondren & Main said:

Probably getting dinged for the deep balls.  I've stanned for Quinn, but his deep balls are down right ugly.

It more than that. I think they had him outside the top 100 QBs in college football. That is a bold statement. One thing to say they think he under-achieved and been mediocre this year. Its another to say he is in the bottom 20 percentile of all college starters.

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4 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

It more than that. I think they had him outside the top 100 QBs in college football. That is a bold statement. One thing to say they think he under-achieved and been mediocre this year. Its another to say he is in the bottom 20 percentile of all college starters.

Well, that’s a good point.  It’s hard to say without knowing all the minutia going on behind the scenes.

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49 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Surprised that wasnt Will Howard. Just an aside, I would love to see PFF do a video on their grading system. Their overall hate of Ewers' season is beyond anything you even see here. I love to figure out why

I don't know his PFF grade, but his QBR was 97.7 and Quinn was 92.0 

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9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I don't know his PFF grade, but his QBR was 97.7 and Quinn was 92.0 

Isn't QBR ESPN's dumb made-up stat? Or is it QBE?

The bottom line is that Ewers didn't look all that great for the majority of the season. I think it's mostly attributable to him being hurt, or afraid to re-aggravate something. Just as he was rounding into form he jacks up his ankle. I'm assuming he's about completely over that by now (hopefully). If we get 4Q/OT Ewers next week (and hopefully) the week after, we've got as good a shot at winning this thing as anybody still playing. I would love for somebody to solve our 3Q issues, though.

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21 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Isn't QBR ESPN's dumb made-up stat? Or is it QBE?

The bottom line is that Ewers didn't look all that great for the majority of the season. I think it's mostly attributable to him being hurt, or afraid to re-aggravate something. Just as he was rounding into form he jacks up his ankle. I'm assuming he's about completely over that by now (hopefully). If we get 4Q/OT Ewers next week (and hopefully) the week after, we've got as good a shot at winning this thing as anybody still playing. I would love for somebody to solve our 3Q issues, though.

All stats have their usefulness. They are just data points. Every stat tells you information, the key is knowing information it does not tell you. You cannot understand that unless the provider of the stat publishes how it is constructed, which is why people question QBR. Its better than QB rating, but how much better who knows

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