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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:14 AM, Thatguy said:

Cam Williams literally just let Saywer walk past him and barely got a hand on him. Go back and rewatch the play. Count one one thousand. This will be the last thing I am going to say about all this. All year we ran ineffectively when we played anyone with a pulse defensively. Then we asked the QB to bail us out on pass rush downs all year long. The last series was a microcosm of the season. Ineffective running caused by a combination of bad execution and bad playcalling. Followed by asking your immobile QB to bail you out while doing nothing to slow the pass rush. We deserved to lose there.

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Cam should have blocked, Quinn shouldn’t have fumbled. This isn’t that hard. 
“ he played a clean game until” is a pretty common refrain this season.

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:15 AM, Rickylovesweed said:

Sark rolled the pocket a ton with QBs at Alabama. 

It's almost like he recognized Ewers can't move and stuff happens like the end of this game. 

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Quinn throws well on the move. The fact that you are blaming that Cam Williams play on the quarterback shows how you think. On a play like that you cannot let tht happen. Tackle the motherfucker if you have to, but to get walked  by and barely get a hand on him?

  On 1/11/2025 at 5:16 AM, hobbes2702 said:

Cam should have blocked, Quinn shouldn’t have fumbled. This isn’t that hard. 
“ he played a clean game until” is a pretty common refrain this season.

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How do you NOT fumble in the middle of your throwing motion?

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:17 AM, Thatguy said:

Quinn throws well on the move. The fact that you are blaming that Cam Williams play on the quarterback shows how you think. On a play like that you cannot let tht happen. Tackle the motherfucker if you have to, but to get walked  by and barely get a hand on him?

How do you NOT fumble in the middle of your throwing motion?

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By making a decision to do something with the football before you’re being hit. You can tuck it, you can throw it, you can roll it outta bounds for all I care. What you can’t do is get caught with the ball unsecured. 
This ain’t about one play. It’s about what he has done consistently which is turn the ball over. He doesn’t play clean games. 

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:16 AM, hobbes2702 said:

Cam should have blocked, Quinn shouldn’t have fumbled. This isn’t that hard. 
“ he played a clean game until” is a pretty common refrain this season.

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2 things are not possible at the same time if one of them is a negative against Quinn. 

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:22 AM, BurntOrange&White said:

Quinn throws well on the move, well too fucking bad he doesn’t move well. 

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Exactly. 

Those last two plays on the goal line is why we don't move the pocket with Ewers. His mobility is fucking terrible. There were obviously other issues on those plays but Ewers cannot move. 

When he moves laterally it often looks like he's going to trip over is own feet. 

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While Quinn wasn't horrible, I have no idea how he got that #1 recruit overall ranking back in high school. Watching this guy for 3 years and none of his tools jump out. Thank you for bringing us back to relevance though Quinn, don't win that Alabama game without you

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:23 AM, hobbes2702 said:

We used to be bad so we should be thankful to be almost good enough. Loser mentality 

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Well, we beat aggie who played ND really close, we also beat Michigan who beat OSU and they are both playing for the NC so that means Sark and Quinn are amazing. It's a sign.

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:23 AM, hobbes2702 said:

We used to be bad so we should be thankful to be almost good enough. Loser mentality 

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He’ll finish his Texas career as 3rd in yards and TDs, lowest in INTs of the Top 10 passers in Texas history, 2nd lowest INT rate behind Sam, and 2nd in QB rating behind Colt - ahead of VY and Sam.

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:25 AM, Rex Kramer said:

He’ll finish his Texas career as 3rd in yards and TDs, lowest in INTs of the Top 10 passers in Texas history, 2nd lowest INT rate behind Sam, and 2nd in QB rating behind Colt - ahead of VY and Sam.

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Cool. Chris Simms had a bunch of records at one point too. The goal is to win.

His QB rating is better than VY, he must be better than VY.

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:17 AM, Thatguy said:

Quinn throws well on the move. The fact that you are blaming that Cam Williams play on the quarterback shows how you think. On a play like that you cannot let tht happen. Tackle the motherfucker if you have to, but to get walked  by and barely get a hand on him?

How do you NOT fumble in the middle of your throwing motion?

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He literally said after the game he saw him coming but thought he could get it off in time instead of pulling it down.  You make more excuses for him than he does.  I hope however you’re kin to him you stick around next year too..   Then you can tell us how even though the offense is better, how it would be better this year with Quinn because everything around Manning is better….   

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:31 AM, Hook1997 said:

He literally said after the game he saw him coming but thought he could get it off in time instead of pulling it down.  You make more excuses for him than he does.  I hope however you’re kin to him you stick around next year too..   

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yup, knew the pressure was there but as usual had no real feel for what to do.

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:31 AM, Hook1997 said:

He literally said after the game he saw him coming but thought he could get it off in time instead of pulling it down.  You make more excuses for him than he does.  I hope however you’re kin to him you stick around next year too..   

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Think about what your dumb ass just said. Pull it down and do what? It's 4th down. Pull it down and run for it? That's a long 10 yard run with all eyes on him. He has to throw there.

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:31 AM, Hook1997 said:

He literally said after the game he saw him coming but thought he could get it off in time instead of pulling it down.  You make more excuses for him than he does.  I hope however you’re kin to him you stick around next year too..   Then you can tell us how even though the offense is better, how it would be better this year with Quinn because everything around Manning is better….   

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Any QB with athletic ability that acknowledges he saw the guy coming but did nothing to make him miss or extend the play is dogshit 

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:28 AM, Rex Kramer said:
He was much more successful than Simms. Just behind VY and Colt in that regard, and it isn’t even close. 

In what regard? Chris Simms was a play away from a national championship game at one point.

The gap between Colt and Quinn is massive.
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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:34 AM, Thatguy said:

Think about what your dumb ass just said. Pull it down and do what? It's 4th down. Pull it down and run for it? That's a long 10 yard run with all eyes on him. He has to throw there.

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A sack in that situation is better than a turnover, especially a turnover for a TD. Just completely dumb not to protect  

 

 

 

 

  On 1/11/2025 at 5:35 AM, wild_turkey said:


In what regard? Chris Simms was a play away from a national championship game at one point.

The gap between Colt and Quinn is massive.

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The gap between Vince, Streey, Colt, and Layne to number 5 is massive. 

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:33 AM, hobbes2702 said:

yup, knew the pressure was there but as usual had no real feel for what to do.

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Here is what's going to happen. QE is going to go to the league and play well. Next year you guys will finally see what's going on.

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:37 AM, Thatguy said:

Here is what's going to happen. QE is going to go to the league and play well. Next year you guys will finally see what's going on.

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season 2 nod GIF
 

I wish he had decided to do that here. Does his NFL career win us this years CFP? 
And also, what exactly is going on? What’s your point? 

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:40 AM, hobbes2702 said:

season 2 nod GIF
 

I wish he had decided to do that here. Does his NFL career win us this years CFP? 
And also, what exactly is going on? What’s your point? 

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You are a coach. You have a pocket passer. it's 4th down and everyone knows you have to throw it. One of your tackles is a turnstile. Do something to help him. Chip him. Keep someone in to help. What you cannot do is ask your worst pass blocker to 1v1. He got by him so fast that Q never had a chance. He was on him before Helm go to the EZ on a 7 yard route. That's what you aren't seeing. There are plenty of QBs in the league that can't run. Playcallers know this and help them out in situations like that. Quinn has proven he can do it if you buy him some time.  I'm off to bed.

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:49 AM, Thatguy said:

You are a coach. You have a pocket passer. it's 4th down and everyone knows you have to throw it. One of your tackles is a turnstile. Do something to help him. Chip him. Keep someone in to help. What you cannot do is ask your worst pass blocker to 1v1. He got by him so fast that Q never had a chance. He was on him before Helm go to the EZ on a 7 yard route. That's what you aren't seeing. There are plenty of QBs in the league that can't run. Playcallers know this and help them out in situations like that. I'm off to bed.

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Then eat the football. Literally just don’t fumble. That’s the only requirement. 

Now do all of Quinn’s other TOs this season.

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:51 AM, BurntOrange&White said:

The problem is having a pocket passer in the 2024 offensive game. Glad we can agree. 

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Hate to break it to you but that’s what sark wants. More athleticism sure but we will never consistently run the QB in sark’s offense.

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:51 AM, hobbes2702 said:
Then eat the football. Literally just don’t fumble. That’s the only requirement. 
Now do all of Quinn’s other TOs this season.
Let's start with Quinn's miss on the 3rd and 5 to start the 4th. This flipped the game in my eyes. We had all the momentum at that point. Quinn sails a pretty easy completion and the rest is history. Ohio State gets it back and drains over half the quarter and scores. If he completes that and we keep moving, we have a chance to really start to take control of this game.
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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:54 AM, troph said:

Hate to break it to you but that’s what sark wants. More athleticism sure but we will never consistently run the QB in sark’s offense.

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Completely disagree.

 

Arch, KJ, Dia are all mobile QBs. Trey has some mobility and isn’t a fucking pussy statue like Quinn. 
 

it’s not even about being dual threat. It’s about being a functional runner. Quinn isn’t even that except on rare occasion 

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Tip your hat to Quinn for a good Texas career and wish him well next year. He played well enough tonight that we couldve won. He didnt cost us the game, but he didnt win us the game either. And that is pretty much Quinn's career in a nutshell (sans Alabama 2023). 

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:54 AM, troph said:
Hate to break it to you but that’s what sark wants. More athleticism sure but we will never consistently run the QB in sark’s offense.
But you have to have a guy who can extend plays and get away from pressure. Quinn doesn't do this at all. In fact, he does the opposite. He's a statue that self sacks himself even on plays with little to no pressure. You don't need a VY or Vick at all. But you are at a big disadvantage if your QB is as immobile as Quinn
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I am very curious to see if he goes pro.  I was thinking he would go even if a 3-4 round as he is injury prone.  I think if he doesn't go pro, it means he is dropping like a rock and needs to maximize his $$$.  

Frankly if he goes to another college team, we will get our answer if it is him or Sark and this thread will continue.

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:56 AM, BurntOrange&White said:

Completely disagree.

 

Arch, KJ, Dia are all mobile QBs. Trey has some mobility and isn’t a fucking pussy statue like Quinn. 
 

it’s not even about being dual threat. It’s about being a functional runner. Quinn isn’t even that except on rare occasion 

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You can disagree with me but sark has said it - pro style pocket passer thinks designed runs are too risky. He’s done it with arch some so maybe he will come around but he’s been adamant about what he wants in a qb and it’s not designed runs or the zone read. 

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:58 AM, Vic Mackey said:
  On 1/11/2025 at 5:54 AM, troph said:
Hate to break it to you but that’s what sark wants. More athleticism sure but we will never consistently run the QB in sark’s offense.
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But you have to have a guy who can extend plays and get away from pressure. Quinn doesn't do this at all. In fact, he does the opposite. He's a statue that self sacks himself even on plays with little to no pressure. You don't need a VY or Vick at all. But you are at a big disadvantage if your QB is as immobile as Quinn

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I said more athleticism that’s what that means.  But we are  not joining the ranks of the running qb offenses under sark and he will always pick the top pocket passer recruit over the top dual threat. 

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:37 AM, Thatguy said:

Here is what's going to happen. QE is going to go to the league and play well. Next year you guys will finally see what's going on.

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The XFL is still around?

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  On 1/11/2025 at 6:00 AM, troph said:

You can disagree with me but sark has said it - pro style pocket passer thinks designed runs are too risky. He’s done it with arch some so maybe he will come around but he’s been adamant about what he wants in a qb and it’s not designed runs or the zone read. 

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Then you’re a dumb bitch. 

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  On 1/11/2025 at 5:37 AM, Thatguy said:

Here is what's going to happen. QE is going to go to the league and play well. Next year you guys will finally see what's going on.

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I hope you're right that Quinn plays well in the NFL. 

But also here's what's going to happen. Arch is gonna open up this offense and we will be better and more explosive next year. 

 

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