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2 hours ago, 936horn said:

I’ll add one last post before this thread is hopefully mercy locked. 
 

I am surprised at the amount of vitriol from several folks on this thread (and pretty consistently at that). Were there inconsistencies in Quinn’s game? Yeah definitely. Did he play well enough tonight for us to win? Also yes. Will Arch be a better QB? Yeah probably but that’s not a guarantee. 
 

I guess for me what it comes down to is I won’t denigrate a dude who came here after we wandered the desert for over a decade (and went 5-7 in Sark’s first year). A dude who came here and won huge games (you are being intellectually dishonest if you can’t recognize what a turning point 2023 Bama was for this program), who by all accounts loved this school, and his teammates. A dude who took us to back to back CFP Semis.

 

I will always be grateful to Quinn for helping return our program to where we belong amongst the CFB elites. Nothing can take away what Quinn did here and how he helped this program return to the national stage after so many wayward years. 
 

Thanks for everything #3

Posting pff rankings and mentioning that we underperformed offensively at times is vitriol?  Ok back to talking shit about allard and gabriel.   Btw you guys make fun or rourke from IU?  He also beat the crap out of michigan

 

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39 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

You aren't wrong but we have legit talent at the skill positions.

Not that Bama level talent but Bond, Golden, and Helm are going to be high picks. Wingo will probably also develop into a high draft pick with his athletic profile. This team was far from void of talent at the skill positions although we did have some bad injury luck. 

Bond has been a ghost (understandably)  and we have nothing close to Najee in the RB room. We had one NFL level skill player for most of the night tonight. OSU had 4-5.  Anyway, just providing context to the Mac Jones comparison that I didn’t make. Quinns night was average, there were bigger issues. Hope Archs legs and the rare deep ball fix those issues next year, I’m not seeing it. See y’all in the Arch thread. 

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7 hours ago, TexMexBuddha said:
7 hours ago, Knoxtnhorn said:
The entire season in one play.  Well done Sark.  Glad u stuck with this pussy at QB all year.

That was not on Quinn. Sark had 4 plays to get 1 yard.

Lmao

It’s on Sark for sure, always stuck with a statue instead of getting the QB that can take is all the way ready. 

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3 hours ago, CastHorn said:

Man did he squander some elite units though, these were real championship windows.

100% spot on.

Two clear windows to play for titles (in very winnable matchups).

-- Yet, Sark and Quinn could not get it in the end zone from the red zone with 4 plays. Twice:  vs Washington and Ohio State.

The ending last night was the worst big game ending in Longhorn history. Nothing even close.

Quinn's fumble far exceeds Craig Curry's fumble v. Georgia in 1983 that cost us a title. (Like Sark, Akers also to blame: should have told everyone to not touch the ball on the punt.)

Two greatest defenses in Longhorn history and no titles. Grrrr....

 

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7 hours ago, Thatguy said:

This post is flat out retarded. Take Ewers out of this and look at the situation. We had the ball at the 1. Run the damn ball down hill. If you guys think things would've been different with a different quarterback then you aren't watching closely. Sark makes dumb ass playcalls and asks his quarterback to bail him out when he gets in trouble. That is not a recipe for success, and if things do not change we will find ourselves in the same situations next year with Arch.


What happened to the Quinn making audibles? 

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6 hours ago, gmr548 said:

The fuck else is he supposed to do? Cry and have a meltdown like you are on the field? Have you ever played a sport?

Yeah, when young players in their early 20's have a reasonable perspective on a FOOTBALL game vs real life and some fan is emotionally crushed by this loss beyond 5 minutes after the game, then either evaluate your priorities or bet and drink less. 

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If you could envision a game that summed up Quinn’s entire UT career, last night would be it. Looking solely at his stat line one could think that he played well enough to win. Decent completion percentage. A few tds. But of course, Quinn showed us yet again exactly who he is and why he was never able to lead us to a title despite having arguably the most talented roster in 15 years. 

Running into multiple sacks, panicking under pressure, lofting throws instead of throwing them on a line once again proved to be fatal in a big time game. His best throw of the night came on the first drive on the one handed catch by Golden. Other than that, Quinn was Quinn and it wasn’t good enough against top flight competition. 

Yes, Sark deserves a huge amount of blame for last night and Bond’s crucial drop stalled out a promising drive near midfield, but at the end of the day if your QB cannot consistently execute in crucial moments you aren’t winning a title.  

I’m glad Quinn was able to help bring the program back to prominence and championship contention, but I’m excited to turn the page and move on.

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6 hours ago, futureman said:

did you see bama running sark's offense vs ohio state in the national championship?  mac jones put up numbers that quinn has never approached and then got drafted in the 1st round.  three times as efficiently would be more accurate.

Has nothing to do with the 5 nfl linemen he was playing behind. Or the 2 starting nfl running backs he handed off. Also, no way he had 2 starting nfl receivers to throw to.

the Mac jones comments are brain dead.

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7 minutes ago, bigcigar said:

Has nothing to do with the 5 nfl linemen he was playing behind. Or the 2 starting nfl running backs he handed off. Also, no way he had 2 starting nfl receivers to throw to.

the Mac jones comments are brain dead.

The 2020 Alabama oline had one guy on it that has produced in the NFL, Landon Dickerson. Leatherwood was a historic bust and the others are all practice squad players at best. It wasn't some overbearing level of talent like yall think.

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Here is what's going to happen. QE is going to go to the league and play well. Next year you guys will finally see what's going on.

I like you as a poster. Your defending of Quinn is weird with no background of where it comes from to me. But you are gonna catch a lot of flack if Quinn continues the play he shown this season anywhere else and Arch doesn’t absolutely shit the bed.
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6 hours ago, cashman said:

The problem is Quinn's just not a guy who's good enough to overcome that. VY won a ship under Mack with Greg Davis calling plays

You know what’s amazing is all of the qbs that have been dogged in this thread have similar stats to Quinn but Quinn played with lesser talent than them so he’s #1

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You can disagree with me but sark has said it - pro style pocket passer thinks designed runs are too risky. He’s done it with arch some so maybe he will come around but he’s been adamant about what he wants in a qb and it’s not designed runs or the zone read. 

Again, you don’t have to call a bunch of designed runs for them. But they need to be able to escape pressure to get rid of the ball or scramble and pick up a few yards consistently. Arch isnt just gonna sit in the pocket next season and not run
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Just now, Jkwellborn said:


Again, you don’t have to call a bunch of designed runs for them. But they need to be able to escape pressure to get rid of the ball or scramble and pick up a few yards consistently. Arch isnt just gonna sit in the pocket next season and not run

 I would be fine with Arch sitting in the pocket next season versus panicking, ducking your head and moving to where the defensive lineman are and sacking yourself or fumbling.  Ewers didn't need to be a scrambler.  Shit, Dan Marino and Tom Brady couldn't run but they could move around within a pocket and throw the ball.   Ewers looked scared out there for much of the time.  Appreciate him being a Longhorn but totally glad he is gone.   Looking forward to a QB that isn't afraid of his own shadow. 

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10 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

he's played his ass off here

im questioning sarks qb coaching skills. ewers has shown little improvement here 

I get why you might think that, but go rewatch the OSU or Baylor games from ‘22 and tell me you don’t think Ewers has improved. 
 

He has some serious limitations and fit issues in a pro-style offense, but he definitely has gotten better. 

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Arch is going to be a step back next year and not sure some of y’all are ready for that. 2026 should be sweet. 

Are you going to blame the failures of a new OL, TE and defense on Arch too? What will be the metric to decide if it’s a step back? Points per game? Brain dead plays? Manning face?
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Why do people keep suggesting that Quinn returned our program to relevance? He was an adequate QB that mostly allowed us to win the games we should’ve won with the overwhelming talent advantage we had all around him. A few times he came very close to destroying the upward trajectory of our program (see: aggy game). He played well against Bama and Michigan but he played average or below average in many other games.

Maybe we should start thanking Bert Auburn for back-to-back playoff appearances. Texas is better after Bert helped return us to prominence.

I think getting Quinn helped bring in some more talent and high profile recruits and transfers.
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22 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

The 2020 Alabama oline had one guy on it that has produced in the NFL, Landon Dickerson. Leatherwood was a historic bust and the others are all practice squad players at best. It wasn't some overbearing level of talent like yall think.

Oops, but one other is an nfl starter - Evan Neal. I’m not sure that takes much away from the talent level around Mac Jones.

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Next year would be Arch's first year as a starter, so he is entitled to making mistakes. I don't understand what point Quinn fans are trying to make with the assertion that the offense will look worse next year. Don't compare a first year QB with a third year starter. 

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10 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


Again, you don’t have to call a bunch of designed runs for them. But they need to be able to escape pressure to get rid of the ball or scramble and pick up a few yards consistently. Arch isnt just gonna sit in the pocket next season and not run

I agree with this. I hope that and the deep ball is the only missing piece - I am still very concerned about run game scheme, play calling, putting the QB in bad spots, pass on first down INC/run on second down predictability, and absurd situational awareness. But there’s no doubt - once Arch matures - he will be a better QB than Quinn. The question that remains is will that alone be enough to win it all - I think so because I think Arch will be transcendent. 

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1 minute ago, UTEE97 said:

Next year would be Arch's first year as a starter, so he is entitled to making mistakes. I don't understand what point Quinn fans are trying to make with the assertion that the offense will look next year. Don't compare a freshman QB with a third year starter. 

It’s simply a reaction to “PUT ARCH IN NOW GODDAMMT.” Both are binary extremes. 
 

1 minute ago, Jkwellborn said:


Damn, he had 5 batted passes?

Yep, second most annoying trait. Howard had 2-3 as well, but not 5.

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10 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

I get why you might think that, but go rewatch the OSU or Baylor games from ‘22 and tell me you don’t think Ewers has improved. 
 

He has some serious limitations and fit issues in a pro-style offense, but he definitely has gotten better. 

100%
 

Quinn’s first season ended with a 58% completion rate and his next two he played us to the final 4. Sark definitely developed him, his ceiling was just more limited than the fans expectations. 
 

Quinn can and will still get better. Look forward to watching him in the NFL. 

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1 minute ago, Gidnik said:

you motherfuckers dogging on quinn dont remember having chris simms, garrett gilbert, case mccoy, david ash, tyrone swoopes, shane buechele, hudson card, and casey thompson as quarterbacks and it shows.

You know what though, none of those dudes are on the stadium. Only Vince and Colt. And now Ewers wont go up on the stadium. So I think it is reasonable to compare Ewers to the guys on the stadium and not the dudes who didnt reach the promised land. 

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1 hour ago, Pam Cummings said:

The 2020 Alabama oline had one guy on it that has produced in the NFL, Landon Dickerson. Leatherwood was a historic bust and the others are all practice squad players at best. It wasn't some overbearing level of talent like yall think.

This argument isn’t as good as you think it is. The greatest player in Texas Football history was a massive bust in the NFL.

4 minutes ago, Gidnik said:

you motherfuckers dogging on quinn dont remember having chris simms, garrett gilbert, case mccoy, david ash, tyrone swoopes, shane buechele, hudson card, and casey thompson as quarterbacks and it shows.

What if I told you that Quinn is basically Chris Simms? They’re the same player.

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11 minutes ago, Gidnik said:

you motherfuckers dogging on quinn dont remember having chris simms, garrett gilbert, case mccoy, david ash, tyrone swoopes, shane buechele, hudson card, and casey thompson as quarterbacks and it shows.

I think everyone here remembers Chris Simms. That’s kinda the point.

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9 minutes ago, Gidnik said:

you motherfuckers dogging on quinn dont remember having chris simms, garrett gilbert, case mccoy, david ash, tyrone swoopes, shane buechele, hudson card, and casey thompson as quarterbacks and it shows.

I thought the goal was to win championships at Texas. None of those QBs could win it, and neither could Quinn. Just because we have had bad QB plays in the last decade or so, we shouldn't want the best? Is that the argument? Average to above average won't win us a title. 

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3 minutes ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

I think it’s cute that Texas fans think we’re not gonna bitch at Arch when he makes mistakes and call him a fraud.

Thats how playing QB at a big time football program works. If you deliver when it matters that bitching disappears 

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Look we can appreciate what Quinn did and respect what he helped the program achieve. 
That doesn’t mean we can’t also see that he just wasn’t quite good enough. 
Neither of those things has anything to do with Ewers as a person and no one (well other than one guy) is attacking him personally. 
The goal is to win, he wasn’t good enough to do that. I wish him all success in the future and I am glad to be looking forward to someone else at the QB position. 

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1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

Look we can appreciate what Quinn did and respect what he helped the program achieve. 
That doesn’t mean we can’t also see that he just wasn’t quite good enough. 
Neither of those things has anything to do with Ewers as a person and no one (well other than one guy) is attacking him personally. 
The goal is to win, he wasn’t good enough to do that. I wish him all success in the future and I am glad to be looking forward to someone else at the QB position. 

This is exactly how I feel about him. 

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Best Texas QB since Sam...

Guy just looks lost when he has to make a decision after the snap.  So many of his sacks and bad throws are from normal pressure, ie. 3+ seconds.  

I really don't see him getting drafted on day 1-2, and it's hard to see him being successful in the NFL as a starter or even being a career backup.  He won't be returning to Fansville or Austin, but he should not enter the draft.

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20 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

This argument isn’t as good as you think it is. The greatest player in Texas Football history was a massive bust in the NFL.

What if I told you that Quinn is basically Chris Simms? They’re the same player.

I have been saying this the last two years. Quinn is Simms incarnate. Their biggest failures came in the games that mattered most. 

Simms also had a higher career winning percentage. He left UT as the second winningest QB in school history. 

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10 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Just run the fucking ball from the 1 until you get in. 

We can all agree the 2nd down call was insanity.  I was hoping for some kind of play action where the running back leaks wide into the end zone as we've done several times, but that toss sweep against a hyperathletic defense had all kinds of failure built into it.  It really was a shame, we were starting to move well on offense and the defense was starting to gel, too. 

Hell, we outscored them in 3Q.  Who had THAT on their bingo card?

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

We can all agree the 2nd down call was insanity.  I was hoping for some kind of play action where the running back leaks wide into the end zone as we've done several times, but that toss sweep against a hyperathletic defense had all kinds of failure built into it.  It really was a shame, we were starting to move well on offense and the defense was starting to gel, too. 

Hell, we outscored them in 3Q.  Who had THAT on their bingo card?

No shit right. The only good 3rd quarter we’ve played in like 8 games and we fucked it by being terrible in the 1st and stupid at the goalline 

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3 minutes ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

Then be honest about it is my point. 

“I’ll live with Arch’s first year mistakes”

lol no yall wont

Yes we will. Because he will be a first year starter. If he’s making first year mistakes in year 3 that’s a different problem.

People will bitch about mistakes regardless, that’s how this works. But people won’t be ready for to move on from him unless he continually makes the same mistakes year after year. 
This isn’t that hard to understand.

Whats your point even? That fans complain? Water is wet too, not sure if you’ve heard.

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