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24 minutes ago, Yev Kassem said:

I have been saying this the last two years. Quinn is Simms incarnate. Their biggest failures came in the games that mattered most. 

Simms also had a higher career winning percentage. He left UT as the second winningest QB in school history. 

Quinn is Quinn. Time to move on. quinn has his flaws. He was a good QB, not great one. He never lived up to ridiculously high expectations, but VY and Colt are the only modern QBs to hit that level for Texas 

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you motherfuckers dogging on quinn dont remember having chris simms, garrett gilbert, case mccoy, david ash, tyrone swoopes, shane buechele, hudson card, and casey thompson as quarterbacks and it shows.

Simms, Ash and Buechele had a better deep ball. Buechele is probably a better passer and fit for that offense.
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Quinn helped “right the ship” post 5-7. Many forget he skipped his Senior (seasoning) year as a QB in HS to go to OSU. Very little actual plays, outside of practice, while at OSU he was really still like a true really hyped Freshman when he came to the 40.

Quinn helped rally the troops, get some better recruits, and started the foundation of where we are today. Remember when Bama came to Austin and he was lighting them up, prior to his sack/injury!

Each year at UT, healthy Spring/Fall camp showed improvements in Quinn, but each consecutive seasons involved injuries where he missed time/games. This year the oblique was worse than let on (no deep balls) and then the ankle. It wasn’t until the post season that he was almost 100%.

I wish him nothing but the best for his future playing career and thank him for what he did wearing the Burnt Orange!

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Apologies for my drunk rant re: QE last night.  I was out of line.  I can be critical without name calling.  That being said, thanks QE for helping bring Texas back.  I will be rooting for you going forward, unless you end up at aggy or somesuch.

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Quinn seems to be a great young man and he loved playing for the University of Texas. He deserves respect and I think his overall legacy at Texas is secured and people will generally be positive about it over time. The victory at Alabama was a sea change moment for this program and he led the way that night. And 4th and 13 will live on. 

The expectations were always high and a lot of his defenders felt that was unfair. But we are Texas. And QB expectations are always high. But the larger issue is he and his camp set those expectations themselves from the beginning. 

Reclassifying and skipping your senior season of high school, particularly as a QB and #1 recruit in the country,  was a huge deal and truly elevated everyone's expectations. That's gonna create or add to the "prodigy" or "generational" label. I have zero inside info and will admit it's a bit unfair to speculate, but I would guess that QE personally didn't really want to skip his senior year. I watched a good interview with him recently, and he basically said the best time of his life was playing High School football at SLC with his friends. He loved every minute of it. His family/team seem to be pretty influential, and I'd guess they pushed it. 

Then he becomes maybe the first big name to score a huge NIL deal at Ohio State. That too will add to the hype and expectations. His QB trainer is Mahomes' trainer. I bet he is was miserable sitting 3rd or 4th string in Columbus and not playing his real Senior year with his HS buddies. But he got paid at least. 

He transfers to Texas shortly after and is named the starter right away. The rest is now history. But let's be real and accept that a lot of the "unfair expectations" were self-inflicted. 

 

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1 hour ago, Gidnik said:

you motherfuckers dogging on quinn dont remember having chris simms, garrett gilbert, case mccoy, david ash, tyrone swoopes, shane buechele, hudson card, and casey thompson as quarterbacks and it shows.

I’m not sure Quinn is better overall than Simms.  It’s close

we ran Casey out of town and rightfully so. However he threw for 24 tds and 9’ints his only year as a starter.  Not that far from Quinns numbers while playing with less talent 

13 minutes ago, utexas8 said:

What’s his draft grade now? I know at one point Milroe allar and beck were all ahead of him. 2 are back in college. Milroe has dropped. Is he gonna sqeak in the 1st?

It would be great if he is qb3.  I think he can get there

 

Cheers to Quinn. Great Longhorn 

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20 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


Simms, Ash and Buechele had a better deep ball. Buechele is probably a better passer and fit for that offense.

I think people would have been quite pleased with Beuchele in this offense.  Maybe Ash too.

Any comparison of Qb between Ewers and any others the past 15 years is not valid.  He’s the only one that got 3 years in the same offense.  The only one with consistency on defense- 3 top 10 defenses.  The only one with draftable players at all offensive positions.  And in the past two years, we’re undefeated in games he didn’t start while averaging about 40 points per game.  I’m quite confident in saying he would not change his surroundings for any of those other dudes.  And I’d guess all those would have loved to play at Texas the past two years.

Hes been fine.  He’s been well compensated for his efforts.

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11 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

 

we ran Casey out of town and rightfully so. However he threw for 24 tds and 9’ints his only year as a starter.  Not that far from Quinns numbers while playing with less talent  

From memory, the DFEI was 47 this year.  The next 3 years improved year over year but were all top 10.  In 2021, the OFEI was 37 and represents the only year in Sarks tenure that the offense ranked better than the defense, relatively speaking.

Not particularly a fan of Thompson but those numbers do tell a story.

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Obviously Sam had much more of a gamer mentality.  He was a far superior runner.  He was less of a passer.  I think Sark could have used him well.

well, definitely would've been able to punch it in from the 1

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10 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

Arch is going to be a step back next year and not sure some of y’all are ready for that. 2026 should be sweet. 

Maybe, and I'm expecting Arch to make some big mistakes in his first full year, but there are lots of upsides.  He keeps his eyes downfield when getting pressured, and actively tries to elude it while scanning for options.  He also isn't scared to stand in the pocket and deliver a throw when he knows he's about to get leveled.  Ewers panics at the first sign of pressure, and his accuracy immediately goes out the window.  Not sure how anyone could believe that Quinn will be good at the next level with even more pressure and when NFL secondaries will feast on the floated passes.  Not to mention he probably doesn't have the durability for the NFL.  He barely even had it in college.  Quinn is good at pre-snap reads, but the second something unexpected happens after the snap, he's slow at processing how to adjust.  Hope he proves me wrong, but I'm just not seeing it.

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1 hour ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

Then be honest about it is my point. 

“I’ll live with Arch’s first year mistakes”

lol no yall wont

Again- Ewers was making freshman mistakes as a 3rd year starter. Self sacking instead of throwing the ball away, throwing an interception into double coverage against ASU when we’re trying to ice the game, turning the ball over twice in the red zone against the Aggies. His freshman mistakes won’t be any worse than what Ewers was doing this year.

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9 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

From memory, the DFEI was 47 this year.  The next 3 years improved year over year but were all top 10.  In 2021, the OFEI was 37 and represents the only year in Sarks tenure that the offense ranked better than the defense, relatively speaking.

Not particularly a fan of Thompson but those numbers do tell a story.

Now to Quinn’s credit, sark wasn’t shutdown sark back with Casey as we were in a dog fight every game.  So sark is certainly capable of having an explosive offense but other than the UF game I’m not sure there was a game where we overachieved expectations.   
 

This offense is ultimately a sark problem. Quinn wasn’t perfect but I’d say he was above average

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7 minutes ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

Again- Ewers was making freshman mistakes as a 3rd year starter. Self sacking instead of throwing the ball away, throwing an interception into double coverage against ASU when we’re trying to ice the game, turning the ball over twice in the red zone against the Aggies. His freshman mistakes won’t be any worse than what Ewers was doing this year.

We were bagging on Ewers his first year as well. We wanted to bench Colt in favor of Chiles his sophomore season. Let’s be real, unless Arch is the second coming (which he very well could be) we’re gonna bag on him too

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53 minutes ago, utexas8 said:

What’s his draft grade now? I know at one point Milroe allar and beck were all ahead of him. 2 are back in college. Milroe has dropped. Is he gonna sqeak in the 1st?

Probably a late first rounder or second rounder  because he has a rocket of an arm . But his scrambling ability will be a negative.  In these days you need a QB that can run and scramble effectively besides the passing ability.  Quinn's delivery of the ball needs work as well.  Sark needs to make sure the QB coach for Arch is top notch to fully develop him.

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2 hours ago, bigcigar said:

Oops, but one other is an nfl starter - Evan Neal. I’m not sure that takes much away from the talent level around Mac Jones.

quinn had plenty of talent around him.  jones was considerably better with considerably less ability.  quinn isn’t a gamer.  it’s frustrating but it’s the reason this thread is 1,000 pages long. 

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Probably a late first rounder or second rounder  because he has a rocket of an arm . But his scrambling ability will be a negative.  In these days you need a QB that can run and scramble effectively besides the passing ability.  Quinn's delivery of the ball needs work as well.  Sark needs to make sure the QB coach for Arch is top notch to fully develop him.

lol. Sark needs to let Arch hire his own qb coach and leave him alone.
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33 minutes ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

We were bagging on Ewers his first year as well. We wanted to bench Colt in favor of Chiles his sophomore season. Let’s be real, unless Arch is the second coming (which he very well could be) we’re gonna bag on him too

People legitimately wanted to move VY to TE 

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Though I have been a critic of QE's fanboys and QE's red zone clutch performance ...  I'm not gonna trash and attack QE for that fumble.

Of course, it was a huge gaffe (along with Sark's idiotic play-calling with first down at the 1, surely the worst goal line calls in UT history).

I really feel for QE. Here's why:

I'm in the arena of public art and intellectual life ... flying solo ... doing stuff with my name on it ... in public ... not a faceless cog in a corporation. 

And I have blown a couple of golden opportunities that I regret to this day. Massive failures ... from arrogance and hubris and just fucking up royally great chances. Embarrassing. Took years to get it all rolling in my career again.

And took years to get kinda over it. Still not over it, as this post shows. 

-- Granted, this is not the stage of college football, but I know how it feels to fail in public. 

But, I also worked my ass off and had major successes and won legit international awards (albeit in obscure artsy fartsy worlds)

Total failures and big successes. 

I can assure you QE has a sick sick sick sick sick sick feeling. And it will last for years. If not the rest of his days.

I truly feel for QE. He tried his best, but it was not enough. He's a real Longhorn. I wish him nothing but the best going forward.

Hook'em QE.

 

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Obviously Sam had much more of a gamer mentality.  He was a far superior runner.  He was less of a passer.  I think Sark could have used him well.

Great summary. Now we have Manning who solves the "He was less of a passer." element. Now Sark must build a team around Arch and quickly. Manning is only going to be at UT for a limited time. If Sark can think Alabama at its Sabin peak.  

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Outside of Nick’s last name spelling, yes you are correct. We’ve got two years with Arch to rise to the ultimate prize, as a team and individual player. He will go to the NFL after hopefully two amazing seasons and so much program defining success to hold on to. Of course all this is forward thinking, but I really think he has the tools to be awesome. Maybe eventually even be better than his Uncles, as he has Grandpa’s speed and agility.

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If anything, the playoffs show you that you don’t need an elite qb to win the whole thing. Howard and Leonard are going up against each other. Geeze.

We could’ve won it all with Quinn but we didn’t. Idiotic play calling and lack of a constient run game against good teams really screwed us.

What it does show is you need a dual threat qb or one that will run if needed. Even in the NFL. True Pocket passers are far and in between


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Yes. I think so.
I know one thing, Sam would be able to bulldoze his way into the endzone from the 1 given 4 tries. Also, the defense would have the respect him running and playing accordingly. Something they didn't have to do with Quinn. Not to mention, he can escape pressure and a play isn't dead just because of pressure like Quinn.
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17 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:
3 hours ago, C-Man said:

Yes. I think so.

I know one thing, Sam would be able to bulldoze his way into the endzone from the 1 given 4 tries. Also, the defense would have the respect him running and playing accordingly. Something they didn't have to do with Quinn. Not to mention, he can escape pressure and a play isn't dead just because of pressure like Quinn.

But, now here me out now, he can't throw the fucking football. Lol. You know, the main part of the job. It's like y'all forgot what Sam was really like.

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If anything, the playoffs show you that you don’t need an elite qb to win the whole thing. Howard and Leonard are going up against each other. Geeze.

We could’ve won it all with Quinn but we didn’t. Idiotic play calling and lack of a constient run game against good teams really screwed us.

What it does show is you need a dual threat qb or one that will run if needed. Even in the NFL. True Pocket passers are far and in between




They aren’t elite, but they have some mobility.
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1 hour ago, Atticus said:

Sam can definitely throw the ball, he just didn’t have the strongest arm. Ball placement was also an issue at times. 

Elhinger, Ewers, tomato, tomato. they did it differently, but kind of similar guys. QBs with flaws, but good college players. You could argue for days over which was better, which is likely given this thread 

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2 hours ago, utexas8 said:

If anything, the playoffs show you that you don’t need an elite qb to win the whole thing. Howard and Leonard are going up against each other. Geeze.

We could’ve won it all with Quinn but we didn’t. Idiotic play calling and lack of a constient run game against good teams really screwed us.

What it does show is you need a dual threat qb or one that will run if needed. Even in the NFL. True Pocket passers are far and in between

 

Counterpoint, Ewers turned the ball over 6 times in the 3 losses, and had at least 1 TO in the last 6 games of the season.

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4 hours ago, closetohumping said:

I’m not sure Quinn is better overall than Simms.  It’s close

we ran Casey out of town and rightfully so. However he threw for 24 tds and 9’ints his only year as a starter.  Not that far from Quinns numbers while playing with less talent 

It would be great if he is qb3.  I think he can get there

 

Cheers to Quinn. Great Longhorn 

nvm thought you were talking about Case

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