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3 minutes ago, Gandalfish said:

Rules question here:

My understanding is he would have to wait until April to transfer, at this point?

And the deadline to him to declare for the NFL draft is January 24th?

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

The deadline to enter the portal for Texas players is Wednesday. Enrolling at another school would depend on their last date to add/drop classes but there is exceptions that Dean's can make. Generally it's the end of January for this.  

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21 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

I'm more surprised there's a team out there willing to pay him $6M for a stiff that self sacks and has terrible accuracy on deep passes. Is Notre Dame or Ole Miss that desperate?  

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

a good way to have nearly no legacy at Texas is to transfer portal somewhere else and play another season. Either win it all and do it somewhere else against Texas or don't and cement yourself as a guy who couldn't get it done. I don't see a reason why unless he really just thinks he sucks and won't make it in the NFL (I don't think that's the case) 

You gotta go to the NFL here, there's really very little upside to coming back to NCAA and not coming back to Texas.

 

at least 50% of the fan base dislikes him / blame him for arch not starting this season 

that don't pay the bills 

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19 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Quinn said he's going to the NFL, so I'm assuming he's going to the NFL. 

I would be fucking pissed if he went to the portal. As immamac said, his legacy at Texas would be immediately tarnished. But more importantly IMO, Sark bent over backwards to protect and lift up Quinn this year, possibly to the detriment of our potential on offense.  The succession plan was clearly Ewers to the NFL and Arch taking over in 2025. We rushed Quinn back vs. OU, had him limping around the field vs. Kentucky even when the game got uncomfortable. Sark did everything he could to keep Quinn on the field and to avoid a QB controversy. He was injured most of the year and that was a consistent excuse given when our offense struggled. If he transfers to another school, let's get in a fucking time machine and hand the keys to Arch after the UTSA game. 

So anyways, thank you, Quinn. You were a great Longhorn. Now please go ahead and announce for the NFL draft. 

 

hank sums up my feelings overall to which i will add the following; note i have not read this thread in more than a year so if my take is a duplication my apologies....

i offer the ewers camp the following for their consideration:

 

right now they can run with the narrative that he didn't self-sack and he is not injury-prone because of "the texas offensive line" (not true, but it sells, at this time)

the hate engine doesn't watch our games, the above narrative feeds confirmation bias, and right now, it plays with 80% of league GMs who don't know any different

nil anywhere and not win a title is extremely probable

nil anywhere and get injured again means this decision was a 1-time payday

have both of those things happen somewhere else, and the current narrative is played out

will lloyd's insure against self-sacking or niggling ankle/shoulder injuries?

is the ewers camp satisfied with what ewers has earned through nil + the final nil payday next year somewhere else + whatever he can make in the nfl?

does the ewers camp think he has 8-figure earning potential in the league?

 

here's some numbers for a certain player, the team data is obfuscated to illustrate the point; the team names were the divisions those teams were in at the time of the 1970 merger

the last number format is year.contract (in that year)


Career Earnings: $2,668,585

10 years, 20 contracts, 13 contracts with zero earnings

nfc west Drafted Terminated 1.1

nfc west Practice Terminated 1.2

afc east Practice Expired 1.3

afc east SFA Terminated 2

nfc central SFA Terminated 3.1

afc west Practice Expired 3.2

afc west SFA Terminated 4

expansion SFA Terminated 5.1

expansion Practice Renegotiated 5.2

expansion SFA Terminated 5.3

expansion SFA Terminated 6

afc central SFA Terminated 7

afc central Practice Renegotiated 8.1

nfc east SFA Terminated 8.2

afc east Practice Terminated 9.1

nfc east SFA Expired 9.2

afc west SFA Terminated 10.1

afc east Practice Elevated 10.2

afc east Practice Expired 10.3

afc east Practice Elevated 10.4

his last contract expired in january 23

 

the individual whose career is above illustrated was the last high-profile quarterback to transfer from The University

 

Garrett Gilbert

 

source: https://overthecap.com/player/garrett-gilbert/3153

 

 

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43 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

hank sums up my feelings overall to which i will add the following; note i have not read this thread in more than a year so if my take is a duplication my apologies....

i offer the ewers camp the following for their consideration:

 

right now they can run with the narrative that he didn't self-sack and he is not injury-prone because of "the texas offensive line" (not true, but it sells, at this time)

the hate engine doesn't watch our games, the above narrative feeds confirmation bias, and right now, it plays with 80% of league GMs who don't know any different

nil anywhere and not win a title is extremely probable

nil anywhere and get injured again means this decision was a 1-time payday

have both of those things happen somewhere else, and the current narrative is played out

will lloyd's insure against self-sacking or niggling ankle/shoulder injuries?

is the ewers camp satisfied with what ewers has earned through nil + the final nil payday next year somewhere else + whatever he can make in the nfl?

does the ewers camp think he has 8-figure earning potential in the league?

 

here's some numbers for a certain player, the team data is obfuscated to illustrate the point; the team names were the divisions those teams were in at the time of the 1970 merger

the last number format is year.contract (in that year)


Career Earnings: $2,668,585

10 years, 20 contracts, 13 contracts with zero earnings

nfc west Drafted Terminated 1.1

nfc west Practice Terminated 1.2

afc east Practice Expired 1.3

afc east SFA Terminated 2

nfc central SFA Terminated 3.1

afc west Practice Expired 3.2

afc west SFA Terminated 4

expansion SFA Terminated 5.1

expansion Practice Renegotiated 5.2

expansion SFA Terminated 5.3

expansion SFA Terminated 6

afc central SFA Terminated 7

afc central Practice Renegotiated 8.1

nfc east SFA Terminated 8.2

afc east Practice Terminated 9.1

nfc east SFA Expired 9.2

afc west SFA Terminated 10.1

afc east Practice Elevated 10.2

afc east Practice Expired 10.3

afc east Practice Elevated 10.4

his last contract expired in january 23

 

the individual whose career is above illustrated was the last high-profile quarterback to transfer from The University

 

Garrett Gilbert

 

source: https://overthecap.com/player/garrett-gilbert/3153

 

 

So, take the $6M?

15 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

if quinn came back to UT and beat out arch for the starting position, how would you feel ?

I'd feel fine for next year, but pissed after.

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22 minutes ago, Slacks said:

So, take the $6M?

i would

on top of what he has earned with us, his NPV is already close to 10m

that's enough to bankroll a no-bling lifestyle for 2 wives, 4 kids, 8 grandkids

then whatever you earn in the league is gravy for boats 'n shit

if he flounders someplace else he's on the gilbert track

if he has a similar injury pattern he's on the gilbert track

nil giveth, nil taketh away

as long as he does not go to a sec team he's in my good graces

if we have to meet him in the playoffs, that's great for him and great for us

i know which qb i'm betting on

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19 hours ago, UTEE97 said:

Ant Hill deserves more criticism than Quinn for giving up the long TD run before the half. What the hell was he doing taking himself out of the play, as if he had no intention of tackling the ball carrier? 

lol yeah blame the defense when the O can’t put up 20 fucking points and constantly goes 3 and out. 
 

Quinn gave it his all I guess, but it was obvious to anybody really watching that he was never going to win it all. Stacked team and stacked targets but his pocket presence was so far below average it held the offense back late in the year. 
 

Could’ve gave Arch some real snaps instead of pretending he was Tim Tebow, but instead Sark stuck with Quinn and just altered his play calling to try and win with a statue at QB. 
 

Hope Quinn can go somewhere and make lots of money and do well, he seems like a good dude. 

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1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

if quinn came back to UT and beat out arch for the starting position, how would you feel ?

I’d be in the fire Sark camp. 

Quinn didn’t beat out Arch this year, he was just given the job back and never lost it because Sark didn’t want to destroy his confidence. 

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I think he goes pro, but not much he has shown is what is needed for a NFL QB, poor pocket presence, slow decision making and floating downfield balls is a recipe for disaster in the NFL.  If I was him I’d take 6 million to transfer in a heartbeat because right now there’s a slim chance he makes it to a second NFL contract.  If he falls to third round his whole first contract is probably 5-6 million…  

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2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

if quinn came back to UT and beat out arch for the starting position, how would you feel ?

Better questions:

How would the Manning family feel?

How would the college football media world feel?

How would prospective 5 star QBs feel?

How would prospective 5 star WRs feel?

How would Arch feel?

Those are the questions you really should ask with your hypothetical. 

Then you can ask fans.

 

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13 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

Not taking advantage of the Manning brand would be a colossal mistake. 

I just don't see this as an even remote possibility , I think its higher probability that Ewers would come back to teach Arch the ropes than this and I see this as near 0. 

I get that a lot of people are down on Sark for some poor play calling at moments, and deservedly so. But he's also shown (imo) that he understands how to build a program and is going to leverage the shit out of having a Manning at QB and he can't do that with him on the bench. 

 

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39 minutes ago, Zeus said:

I’d be in the fire Sark camp. 

Quinn didn’t beat out Arch this year, he was just given the job back and never lost it because Sark didn’t want to destroy his confidence. 

I'm 100% sure that Quinn beat out Arch this year. Stop being ridiculous. 

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8 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

I just don't see this as an even remote possibility , I think its higher probability that Ewers would come back to teach Arch the ropes than this and I see this as near 0. 

I get that a lot of people are down on Sark for some poor play calling at moments, and deservedly so. But he's also shown (imo) that he understands how to build a program and is going to leverage the shit out of having a Manning at QB and he can't do that with him on the bench. 

 

Sark makes mistakes like any HC but he's not regarded and stiffing Manning isn't in the game plan. 

It's a stupid fucking hypothetical that's never happening.

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1 hour ago, Zeus said:

lol yeah blame the defense when the O can’t put up 20 fucking points and constantly goes 3 and out. 
 

Quinn gave it his all I guess, but it was obvious to anybody really watching that he was never going to win it all. Stacked team and stacked targets but his pocket presence was so far below average it held the offense back late in the year. 
 

Could’ve gave Arch some real snaps instead of pretending he was Tim Tebow, but instead Sark stuck with Quinn and just altered his play calling to try and win with a statue at QB. 
 

Hope Quinn can go somewhere and make lots of money and do well, he seems like a good dude. 

Can’t we hold the defense to the same standard as QE tho. Which is perfection. If we don’t win every game 70-0 what are we doing here. 

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47 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Sark makes mistakes like any HC but he's not regarded and stiffing Manning isn't in the game plan. 

It's a stupid fucking hypothetical that's never happening.

I agree.  Let's discuss hypothetical's that could happen.  What if Sark decides Ol Beantown is the way to go at QB and tells Ewers and Manning to go fuck off and we are going with an unathletic, overweight middle-aged dude who can't throw a ball 20 yards.  How would that make everyone feel?

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2 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

I agree.  Let's discuss hypothetical's that could happen.  What if Sark decides Ol Beantown is the way to go at QB and tells Ewers and Manning to go fuck off and we are going with an unathletic, overweight middle-aged dude who can't throw a ball 20 yards.  How would that make everyone feel?

I mean, Sark is known for his unique choices and offensive designs and that would certainly be a new wrinkle.

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4 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

I agree.  Let's discuss hypothetical's that could happen.  What if Sark decides Ol Beantown is the way to go at QB and tells Ewers and Manning to go fuck off and we are going with an unathletic, overweight middle-aged dude who can't throw a ball 20 yards.  How would that make everyone feel?

Wait why cant you throw the ball 20 yards 

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5 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Well, if Ewers can't why should I be able to?  I kid. Kind of.

Look man, I get a new NIL going for you and call it BeannCheese. Catch is I get sideline passes and you put the bug in Sarks ear that as an Italian I would make a great kicker scout.

Maybe racist?

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I don't really see this kid who grew up a Longhorn, originally committed to Texas, left a perennial contender to transfer to a dumpster fire program with a newly-hired alcoholic head coach who crashed and burned at USC, and stayed an extra year despite all the hate from fans because he loves The University and wanted to win a national championship before he left when he would have been a late 3rd-rounder at worst...as transferring and not declaring for the draft in one of the weakest QB drafts in recent history with Drew Allar and Carson Beck electing to return to college. I don't like the kid's politics or his floaty deep passes this season or his dubious choice(s) in NIL--Jeff fucking Davis? So Harvey Weinstein and Mel Gibson didn't offer?--but transferring would be a stupidity of an order of magnitude greater than the other dumb shit.

 

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3 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

I don't really see this kid who grew up a Longhorn, originally committed to Texas, left a perennial contender to transfer to a dumpster fire program with a newly-hired alcoholic head coach who crashed and burned at USC, and stayed an extra year despite all the hate from fans because he loves The University and wanted to win a national championship before he left when he would have been a late 3rd-rounder at worst...as transferring and not declaring for the draft in one of the weakest QB drafts in recent history with Drew Allar and Carson Beck electing to return to college. I don't like the kid's politics or his floaty deep passes this season or his dubious choice(s) in NIL--Jeff fucking Davis? So Harvey Weinstein and Mel Gibson didn't offer?--but transferring would be a stupidity of an order of magnitude greater than the other dumb shit.

 

Pretty much this.  The NIL scuttlebutt is a long game to increase his draft stock. Many NFL GMs aren’t smart.  They’ll figure if someone is willing to pay the guy $6 to $8 million to transfer, we’d better draft him early. 

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Between owners, general managers, and head coaches there are around a hundred NFL brainiacs, and I'll be surprised if there aren't five or six who are pretty damn sure they can teach Quinn to throw the long ball and how to check to the weak side run. I reckon one of those five or six will take him by at least the second round.

 

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Quinn has to go pro. He would simply crumble under the media narratives and spotlight next season if he were to transfer. Every game he plays will be measured against Texas and Manning. Don’t make the playoffs?  Stock bottoms out even further. 
 

With the weak QB class, now is the time. 

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8 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Quinn has to go pro. He would simply crumble under the media narratives and spotlight next season if he were to transfer. Every game he plays will be measured against Texas and Manning. Don’t make the playoffs?  Stock bottoms out even further. 

We go through this every year.  The NFL drafts QBs on potential, not college success.  If some team thinks they can fix his issues, they'll take him, and potentiallly very early.  It happens every year.

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6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

We go through this every year.  The NFL drafts QBs on potential, not college success.  If some team thinks they can fix his issues, they'll take him, and potentiallly very early.  It happens every year.

I think his current ceiling is a 2nd round pick if goes this year. If he transfers and has a poor season that sees him drafted on day 3, then he could be fighting for a practice squad gig and zero guaranteed money. 
 

Teams that invest draft capital in players give them longer leashes. The lower the round the shorter the leash. 
 

5th round pick Spencer Rattler signed a 4 year $4 million dollar contract with $336k guaranteed. 
 

It is not just about one season and one paycheck. 
 

If Anthony Richardson (who was infinitely worse than Quinn in college) was drafted in the 5th round instead of the 1st he would already be cut. Instead he will be given every chance in year 3 to start sporting a career completion percentage south of 50%. 
 

Quinn goes now and gets a longer leash. 

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13 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Imagine another college team seeing Ewers coached by Sarkisian, with a Joe Moore finalist OL that includes an Outland/Lombardi winning Left Tackle, 1,000 yard rusher, TE and WRs that are about to be NFL draft picks, and thinking, "Offer $6 million. We can fix him."


What if instead of a “Joe Moore finalist OL” that other team had an OL that could open holes for RBs against good opponents and at least get in Jack Sawyer’s way? That could work.

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10 minutes ago, Holy Horn said:


What if instead of a “Joe Moore finalist OL” that other team had an OL that could open holes for RBs against good opponents and at least get in Jack Sawyer’s way? That could work

Notre Dame didn’t have a run longer than 8 yards by a running back vs Georgia. We lead the SEC in yards per rush this year. Which teams do you think have Olines that were so superior to ours this year?

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4 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Arnold got a confirmed 1.9.   How's 4 for Beck crazy?  Arnold was putrid. 

How is this kind of thing confirmed? Who has to disclose this information?

Also LO fucking L at Auburn if remotely true. His commitment graphic was hilarious - all about how highly rated of a recruit he was and his elite 11 finish. For a dude who just started a full season for a blue blood.

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