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Great info found by @Fud  (pretty damn accurate)

From Daniel Jeremiah  annual Q&A conference call with industry reporters

"Ewers... there's a few guys that are on my list to go back after the combine and go back to '23 tape because.. I know he wasnt' healthy this year but he didn't take the step I was hoping he'd take.. he is still young at 21, hes' got quick feet quick release.. he just got into a lot of bad habits, I didn't think he played with any convinction, not trusting what he's seeing, just really sloppy with his feet, and everything kind of got away from him.. the team had tremendous success and he obviously made some big time throws in the playoffs, but.. overall not the step forward I was hoping for him"

 

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On 2/3/2025 at 12:18 PM, Fondren & Main said:

It's not surprising.  He essentially made a promotion to the toughest league in college football and his numbers plateaued.  He turned it over more this year, but he did face much better defenses.  I think the biggest issues were the deep balls to Wingo this year.  It's certainly possible that he never was on the same page with the 2 freshmen who I expect to make huge leaps next year with Arch.  We know that Quinn can read defenses.  We know that he can throw with anticipation.  None of that is surprising.  People just expected Quinn to be great and he was just very good instead.  That's disappointing when expectations are at the top.

We also don't know the extent of his oblique injury.  It was not ideal to come back against a great defense in Oklahoma with another great defense in Georgia right behind it to shake off the rust and get acclimated to game speed again.

https://x.com/zach_barnett/status/1894382784136839302

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And, now we know.

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Sark wasted a national championship caliber defense on a guy who was injured. Fucking sad.

You're assuming that healthy Arch > injured Quinn. You may be right, but we really aren't in a position to know. 

hope that Sark wouldn't allow his loyalty to Ewers or pride in his ability to develop QBs to lead to a decision that negatively affects the team. And we really haven't seen anything in Sark's conduct that suggest we should assume that's the case. He is maybe a little too loyal, but he's not loyal to a fault. He pulled Ewers and brought Arch in against UGA in Austin - turns out UGA was just going to kick our ass regardless of who was under center. You also can't discount the limited ceiling of our run game and the impact it had on the rest of our offense. Passing game can't afford to be simple / predictable if teams know you're not going to run. A more experienced QB can open up the playbook. 

To be fair, I'm making a lot of assumptions myself. But I'm willing to give Sark the benefit of the doubt here - even injured, Ewer's experience probably gives him the edge over Arch. 

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2 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

You're assuming that healthy Arch > injured Quinn. You may be right, but we really aren't in a position to know. 

hope that Sark wouldn't allow his loyalty to Ewers or pride in his ability to develop QBs to lead to a decision that negatively affects the team. And we really haven't seen anything in Sark's conduct that suggest we should assume that's the case. He is maybe a little too loyal, but he's not loyal to a fault. He pulled Ewers and brought Arch in against UGA in Austin - turns out UGA was just going to kick our ass regardless of who was under center. You also can't discount the limited ceiling of our run game and the impact it had on the rest of our offense. Passing game can't afford to be simple / predictable if teams know you're not going to run. A more experienced QB can open up the playbook. 

To be fair, I'm making a lot of assumptions myself. But I'm willing to give Sark the benefit of the doubt here - even injured, Ewer's experience probably gives him the edge over Arch. 

Quinn is absolute dog shit off injuries, so yes a healthy Arch is better than Quinn. When your QB won't move or make plays outside the pocket they're fucking useless. Insert all the self sacks 

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29 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

That defense is a top 3-5 defense in program history up there with 83 and 09

Not the thread for it, but we played a lot of meh offenses and backup QBs. Clemson and ASU both had plenty of success against it.

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1 hour ago, Atticus said:

Not the thread for it, but we played a lot of meh offenses and backup QBs. Clemson and ASU both had plenty of success against it.

With seven minutes to go in the 4th quarter, ASU had six offensive points. I’d say they had some success, not plenty of success. If we played better complementary football on offense, they don’t break ten points. 
 
As to Quinn’s injury, yeah…I don’t know that Sark knew and understood he wasn’t getting better. I believe Ewers really wanted to come back against OU, knowing that if Arch starts and wins it, that’s probably it for him as Texas QB. Of course, I don’t know anything about, just talking out my ass. 

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17 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Thats fair, but they moved up and down the field and failed in the redzone multiple times until the 4th quarter dam broke

Sure. At that point, ASU had run 71 plays for 308 yards. Texas had run 39 plays for 224 yards. Piss poor complementary football 

Back to the topic- I have to think Sark thought that at some point he would get back the Quinn who started the Michigan game. If he had known that Quinn would be injured all year, would he have decided differently?

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3 hours ago, Fondren & Main said:

yeah that’s bullshit. i tore my oblique last year and i don’t give a shit how tough QE is or how many drugs they gave him, you cannot throw a goddamn football with a torn oblique. you can barely move. breathing hurts. sneezing is a death sentence. ain’t nobody playing QB in the SEC with a torn oblique. QE would have been crying in the fetal position on the sidelines between every drive.

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this was weeks after the fact. in the last 2 years i’ve torn both meniscuses, had a high ankle sprain, and a separated shoulder, on top of the torn oblique. the oblique injury was by far the most debilitating.

and yeah, those are the stretch marks you get when you go from 180 lbs to 320 lbs in 7 months because your doctor prescribed you risperidal when you were 15. 😡 

 

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Austin Curtright: Former Texas QB Quinn Ewers reportedly played through 2024 season with torn oblique

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Former Texas football quarterback Quinn Ewers played through a noticeable injury throughout the 2024 season. As it turns out, the injury was even worse than previously thought. Ewers reportedly played through the 2024 season with a torn oblique, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported Tuesday at the 2025 NFL Scouting Combine. The injury was originally thought, at least to those outside the Longhorns building, that Ewers was dealing with a strained oblique suffered during Week 3 against UTSA.

Pelissero added another interesting note, stating Ewers actually suffered the injury in Texas' second game of the season against Michigan instead of the following week. Ewers started the Longhorns' third game of the year against UTSA but was removed early after apparently injuring his oblique, allowing for Arch Manning to see extended playing time for the rest of the game and the next week against Mississippi State.

Ewers is reportedly fully healthy after receiving a few months to recover from Texas' College Football Playoff run that ended with a loss to Ohio State in the semifinals. He is also expected to throw at the NFL combine, amid multiple signal callers being expected to opt out of on-field drills in Indianapolis. Pelissero also reported Ewers has been training in Dallas with former Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy ahead of the NFL combine, which starts on-field drills on Feb. 27 and lasts through March 3.

The 6-foot-2 quarterback completed 293 of 445 passes (65.8%) for 3,472 yards with 31 touchdowns to 12 interceptions last season while battling injury. He was solid in Texas' three CFP games, passing for a combined 807 yards with six touchdowns to three interceptions against Clemson, Arizona State and Ohio State. Ewers, a former five-star recruit ranked the No. 1 player nationally in the 2021 recruiting class by 247Sports' Composite rankings, is expected to be in contention to be the third highest-drafted quarterback in the NFL draft, behind likely top 10 picks Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders.

 

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3 hours ago, Atticus said:

Arch probably wasn’t ready to handle the entire offense that was built around Quinn’s strengths.

It is amazing that some of you think bullshit word salad like this really means we shouldn't start the best possible player at the most important position when we have a legit opportunity to win a title. 

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1 hour ago, Derka said:

yeah that’s bullshit. i tore my oblique last year and i don’t give a shit how tough QE is or how many drugs they gave him, you cannot throw a goddamn football with a torn oblique. you can barely move. breathing hurts. sneezing is a death sentence. ain’t nobody playing QB in the SEC with a torn oblique. QE would have been crying in the fetal position on the sidelines between every drive.

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this was weeks after the fact. in the last 2 years i’ve torn both meniscuses, had a high ankle sprain, and a separated shoulder, on top of the torn oblique. the oblique injury was by far the most debilitating.

and yeah, those are the stretch marks you get when you go from 180 lbs to 320 lbs in 7 months because your doctor prescribed you risperidal when you were 15. 😡 

 

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33 minutes ago, Josef Pwag said:
4 hours ago, Atticus said:

Arch probably wasn’t ready to handle the entire offense that was built around Quinn’s strengths.

It is amazing that some of you think bullshit word salad like this really means we shouldn't start the best possible player at the most important position when we have a legit opportunity to win a title. 

> word salad

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1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Here is every play of the Michigan game if someone can find where Ewers injured his oblique in this game: 

 

It was the UTSA game that he got injured, one week after this game.

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21 hours ago, Derka said:

yeah that’s bullshit. i tore my oblique last year and i don’t give a shit how tough QE is or how many drugs they gave him, you cannot throw a goddamn football with a torn oblique. you can barely move. breathing hurts. sneezing is a death sentence. ain’t nobody playing QB in the SEC with a torn oblique. QE would have been crying in the fetal position on the sidelines between every drive.

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this was weeks after the fact. in the last 2 years i’ve torn both meniscuses, had a high ankle sprain, and a separated shoulder, on top of the torn oblique. the oblique injury was by far the most debilitating.

and yeah, those are the stretch marks you get when you go from 180 lbs to 320 lbs in 7 months because your doctor prescribed you risperidal when you were 15. 😡 

 

How old are you now? Like 50? But, sure, it's apt to compare a 50-something who was never a college-caliber athlete with a 20-something playing at the highest level of college athletics.

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20 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

How old are you now? Like 50? But, sure, it's apt to compare a 50-something who was never a college-caliber athlete with a 20-something playing at the highest level of college athletics.

right because that’s how injuries work. torn oblique, torn acl, popped achilles? who cares if you’re 20! no big deal! and to think that Colt could have just gone back in the game against Bama. why didn’t he do that? what a loser.

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1 minute ago, Derka said:

and to think that Colt could have just gone back in the game against Bama. why didn’t he do that? what a loser.

I've been waiting 16 years for someone to say this out loud.  Thank you.

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1 hour ago, Derka said:

right because that’s how injuries work. torn oblique, torn acl, popped achilles? who cares if you’re 20! no big deal! and to think that Colt could have just gone back in the game against Bama. why didn’t he do that? what a loser.

Legitimately that made zero sense. Like absolutely none. Some of us played with injuries we shouldn't have when we were in our teens and 20s and part of it wasn't just coaches putting pressure on us, but our own stupidity. Thirty years removed from playing D1 with a partially torn ACL that completely tore several weeks later, and five years removed from tearing the other ACL skiing, I can guarantee you there's a difference in how I felt and recovered. And you doubting whether Ewers, a starter for one of the highest-tiered teams at the highest tier of collegiate athletics, could play through an injury based on your anecdotal experience at 30 years older and in less-than-peak physical condition, is patently. Fucking. Absurd.

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6 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

Legitimately that made zero sense. Like absolutely none. Some of us played with injuries we shouldn't have when we were in our teens and 20s and part of it wasn't just coaches putting pressure on us, but our own stupidity. Thirty years removed from playing D1 with a partially torn ACL that completely tore several weeks later, and five years removed from tearing the other ACL skiing, I can guarantee you there's a difference in how I felt and recovered. And you doubting whether Ewers, a starter for one of the highest-tiered teams at the highest tier of collegiate athletics, could play through an injury based on your anecdotal experience at 30 years older and in less-than-peak physical condition, is patently. Fucking. Absurd.

Rookie mistake to argue with him.  Just ignore him and move along.  He provides pretty good analysis for basketball which is why I haven't added him to the ignored users list.

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14 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

Legitimately that made zero sense. Like absolutely none. Some of us played with injuries we shouldn't have when we were in our teens and 20s and part of it wasn't just coaches putting pressure on us, but our own stupidity. Thirty years removed from playing D1 with a partially torn ACL that completely tore several weeks later, and five years removed from tearing the other ACL skiing, I can guarantee you there's a difference in how I felt and recovered. And you doubting whether Ewers, a starter for one of the highest-tiered teams at the highest tier of collegiate athletics, could play through an injury based on your anecdotal experience at 30 years older and in less-than-peak physical condition, is patently. Fucking. Absurd.

a)you falling for this propaganda is funny and sad

b)i don’t give a shit if i’m 150 years old, ain’t nobody playing QB with a torn oblique 

c)comparing playing with a torn oblique to playing with a torn acl is an apples and oranges comparison, there have been countless cases of athletes playing with torn acls/no acl, while nobody who tears his oblique continues playing

d)none of QE’s struggles or issues this year were new, so i will refer to you again to point a when i say that it’s a transparently BS excuse for his struggles, and 

e)it’s amazing how many of you graduated from UT with a law degree and yet you suck at debate, argue like a teenager, and fall for crap like this fake oblique injury excuse 

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i mean seriously dude, we’re talking about sinewy muscle fibers and excruciating pain here. if you really think that someone can play an entire season of SEC football, repeatedly hurl a large object at high speeds, get routinely tackled by gangs of 250-300 lb men, and then just be chilling on the sidelines, laughing and joking and showing no signs of pain on a torn oblique, then i’ve got some ocean front property in pflugerville to sell you. come on man. use your head.

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13 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Rookie mistake to argue with him.  Just ignore him and move along.  He provides pretty good analysis for basketball which is why I haven't added him to the ignored users list.

At some point the guilt of taking advantage of someone's DSM-level mental issues for entertainment value will outweigh how funny it is to watch a fat fucking fifty-something Never Was die on the cross of comparing his current self to a 21-year-old about to be drafted into a professional sports league.

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5 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

At some point the guilt of taking advantage of someone's DSM-level mental issues for entertainment value will outweigh how funny it is to watch a fat fucking fifty-something Never Was die on the cross of comparing his current self to a 21-year-old about to be drafted into a professional sports league.

it’s so funny how y’all do this. you and i disagree on something, and instead of discussing it like an adult you whine, spaz out, react like a child, immediately resort to personal insults, and all the while you’re like, “fucking derka, he’s so immature, dude can’t handle a differing opinion.”

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either discuss this with me like an adult or move on. you guys act more derka than i do and then circle jerk each other about how it’s me who’s ruining the discussion. zero self awareness.

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7 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

At some point the guilt of taking advantage of someone's DSM-level mental issues for entertainment value will outweigh how funny it is to watch a fat fucking fifty-something Never Was die on the cross of comparing his current self to a 21-year-old about to be drafted into a professional sports league.

He's pretty mad now.

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2 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

He's pretty mad now.

let’s see: you’re in here talking shit about me and not even pretending to participate in the conversation, ut lawyer guy is spazzing out and insulting me left and right, and yet *i’m* the one who’s mad in your mind. seriously, it’s amazing to watch you guys embody everything “derka” and then lie to yourself about it.

the two of you have derka’d this thread and derailed this discussion. way to go.

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23 hours ago, satyanash said:

Austin Curtright: Former Texas QB Quinn Ewers reportedly played through 2024 season with torn oblique

 

What narrative happens to be the best for Ewers draft stock?  That he played mediocrely when healthy or mediocrely while injured?  Maybe he was injured all year and that was the only reason he struggled, but I would also expect these stories to protect his payday if it weren’t the case, too.  We don’t know, and it will be NFL scouts, coaches and GMs to figure out whether it’s spin or legit.

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3 minutes ago, Goredho said:

What narrative happens to be the best for Ewers draft stock?  That he played mediocrely when healthy or mediocrely while injured?  Maybe he was injured all year and that was the only reason he struggled, but I would also expect these stories to protect his payday if it weren’t the case, too.  We don’t know, and it will be NFL scouts, coaches and GMs to figure out whether it’s spin or legit.

none of his problems this year were new, and none of them indicated him being limited due to injury, unless you count his being afraid to be hit as a result of having been previously injured. his footwork, his inaccuracy, his lack of mobility, his pocket jitters, his inability to make reads and progressions- none of it is new, and none of it is attributable to an oblique injury that was supposedly suffered against michigan. 

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