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21 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Dibs second string, since that’s everyones fave. 

I’m sure you’d say the first stringer with a torn oblique pounded you better. 

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fwiw there’s a post in this thread where one of our posters has a friend whose kid is on the team, and the kid says that Arch was lights out in practice, clearly better than QE. sark just did not want to make such a big move when he felt he could win it all with QE anyway.

I must have missed that I think.
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Those players would’ve all had worse season records at Texas with a worse QB running things. Pretty simple.  And I will not be doing that because that sounds dorky as fuck.

Well, they won every game the backups started.
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1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

If we had better QB play we win a title. Sad you can't see that. Quinn held this team back.

If we had better OL play we win a title.  Majors and Williams got their asses whipped on consecutive plays against Ohio State.

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11 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

If we had better OL play we win a title.  Majors and Williams got their asses whipped on consecutive plays against Ohio State.

 

that’s cool. Ewers self sacked multiple times and had multiple turnovers. A QB with any semblance of athleticism and use of his legs helps the line. Instead we have a statue fucking idiot back there 

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39 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

If we had better OL play we win a title.  Majors and Williams got their asses whipped on consecutive plays against Ohio State.

colt mccoy played behind two o lines that were vastly inferior to QE’s last two o lines and he finished runner up for the heisman both times. colt also had to be his teams leading rusher and never had the likes of bijan robinson or jonathan brooks to take pressure off him. unfortunately QE is closer to case mccoy than colt mccoy when it comes to making plays outside of his first read, and his errant passes, self sacking, and general skittishness made the OL’s job that much harder. the OL did a lot more for QE the last two years than the other way around.

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colt mccoy played behind two o lines that were vastly inferior to QE’s last two o lines and he finished runner up for the heisman both times. colt also had to be his teams leading rusher and never had the likes of bijan robinson or jonathan brooks to take pressure off him. unfortunately QE is closer to case mccoy than colt mccoy when it comes to making plays outside of his first read, and his errant passes, self sacking, and general skittishness made the OL’s job that much harder. the OL did a lot more for QE the last two years than the other way around.

Could you imagine Quinn doing the herpa derpa against aggy this season? It would have been great.
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colt mccoy played behind two o lines that were vastly inferior to QE’s last two o lines and he finished runner up for the heisman both times. colt also had to be his teams leading rusher and never had the likes of bijan robinson or jonathan brooks to take pressure off him. unfortunately QE is closer to case mccoy than colt mccoy when it comes to making plays outside of his first read, and his errant passes, self sacking, and general skittishness made the OL’s job that much harder. the OL did a lot more for QE the last two years than the other way around.

Not saying “most stated” isn’t correct, but harsh and too soon. Damn I would’ve liked to see what an “injury free” Quinn could do over one season.

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1 hour ago, Derka said:

colt mccoy played behind two o lines that were vastly inferior to QE’s last two o lines and he finished runner up for the heisman both times. colt also had to be his teams leading rusher and never had the likes of bijan robinson or jonathan brooks to take pressure off him. unfortunately QE is closer to case mccoy than colt mccoy when it comes to making plays outside of his first read, and his errant passes, self sacking, and general skittishness made the OL’s job that much harder. the OL did a lot more for QE the last two years than the other way around.

It is what it is though, man.  We had the roster we had, and if QE wasn’t the guy don’t blame it on him, blame it on the coach responsible for the roster.  Personally I was disappointed we didn’t kick everyone’s ass and win two consecutive MNCs, but that shit is hard to do, and we came close.   A decent kicker would have gotten us there.  A lot of blame to go around.  

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I love the notion that Arch only looked good against inferior opponents when Quinn was 0-3 against Georgia and Ohio State last season. He also tried his best to lose to aggy, but the defense saved him. And Arch came in and scored a TD that game as well.

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This thread should be killed.

Drive a stake through its heart.

cut off its head with a silver dagger.

stuff it’s mouth with holy wafers.

Burn the body.

Scatter the ashes at the four corners of the continent.

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11 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

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Absolutely coaching malpractice by Sark if true.

None of this adds up.

He's been hurt every year he's been here.  Can he last a full season?  If he was hurt, where were the plays for Arch?  If he wasn't really hurt, is he covering for bad play for his boy?

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54 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

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Absolutely coaching malpractice by Sark if true.

In the video he's asked if it was a full or partial tear of the oblique, and Quinn said it was labeled as a sprain but felt worse. And that he hurt it on Monday after Michigan and it got worse throughout the week.

 

BTW, here is the play by play of the UTSA game for Texas on offense 

Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, INT, run, pass, run, pass, pass, run, pass, run, run, pass, run, pass, run, pass,  Quinn goes down and leaves the game. 

 

 

 

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56 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Absolutely coaching malpractice by Sark if true.

I know a lawyer who specializes in coaching malpractice.  I'll PM you his contact info.  Pretty sure he takes cases on contingency.

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2 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

THEN WE SHOULDVE BEEN STARTING MANNING, WE FUCKING PISSED AWAY A CHAMPIONSHIP

Manning plays like a rookie one week and we drop a game, we don’t make the playoffs. Sark is murdered for having a semi final QB on the bench. 

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Just now, ChickenSandwich said:

Manning plays like a rookie one week and we drop a game, we don’t make the playoffs. Sark is murdered for having a semi final QB on the bench. 

We wouldve made the playoffs with 3 losses. So Manning had plenty of slack. 

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5 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Manning plays like a rookie one week and we drop a game, we don’t make the playoffs. Sark is murdered for having a semi final QB on the bench. 

This is likely the truth. As I said before, Sark made this decision out of fear. 

Not many people have Saban's cojones.

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6 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

We lose to Aggy on the road we still make the playoffs?  Vandy?

Yes, we wouldve still made it. That wouldve been a 2 loss Texas since our second loss was in the SEC championship game. And Manning wouldve been an upgrade in every category over a gimpy Ewers. 

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1 minute ago, Josef Pwag said:

This is likely the truth. As I said before, Sark made this decision out of fear. 

Not many people have Saban's cojones.

No, he did it out of loyalty. Not every coach has Saban's ability to step over a player having a heat stroke on the ground. 

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Just now, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Yes, we wouldve still made it. That wouldve been a 2 loss Texas since our second loss was in the SEC championship game. And Ewers wouldve been an upgrade in every category over a gimpy Ewers. 

And with real prep likely doesn't lose to Georgia (twice) whos kryptonite is a running/mobile QB. 

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10 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Manning plays better every week and we win games, we win the SEC, make the playoffs, win a national championship. Sark is praised for having a semi final QB on the bench. 

FIFY.

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The season played out the way it should have. It's a really weak case to try and say Arch should have been the starter from week 4 on. It borders on the absurd and would have created a clusterfuck. We were a couple plays away from playing in the national championship, just like the year before. Quin was a very good college QB who had the knowledge needed in Sark's offense to win us the national championship 2 years in a row. What he lacked was greatness. And to win it all, more often than not, you need greatness. It's one of the reasons we came up short both years.

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5 minutes ago, UTGrad98 said:

The season played out the way it should have. It's a really weak case to try and say Arch should have been the starter from week 4 on. It borders on the absurd and would have created a clusterfuck. We were a couple plays away from playing in the national championship, just like the year before. Quin was a very good college QB who had the knowledge needed in Sark's offense to win us the national championship 2 years in a row. What he lacked was greatness. And to win it all, more often than not, you need greatness. It's one of the reasons we came up short both years.

Manning shouldve been the starter once it became apparent that Ewers was limited and never getting back to 100% and was holding the team back. For most people, it was obvious in the first Georgia game and he shouldve been benched at that point. However, after the Arkansas debacle, it was beyond apparent that Ewers was a giant anchor holding down our team. Manning wouldve likely delivered a title to this team this year. And you know why that is? Because the defense was one of the best defenses in college football history, Manning didnt even need to be that good for us to win a title. He just had to make a few plays with his feet and the defense wouldve done the rest. 

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17 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Belichick should have definitely put Bledsoe back at starter after his injury instead of letting Tom Brady play!

So we should have let a QB with 0 college football starts coming from a 2A high school lead our  team with one of the greatest defenses in Texas history instead of the guy who just came off a Michigan clinic the week before and a national semi final appearance where we were 1 throw from playing in a national championship the year before? You would have made that move in the moment, back in Sept? That's ridiculous. Of course its easy to try and say that now, after its all over.

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In the video he's asked if it was a full or partial tear of the oblique, and Quinn said it was labeled as a sprain but felt worse. And that he hurt it on Monday after Michigan and it got worse throughout the week.
 
BTW, here is the play by play of the UTSA game for Texas on offense 
Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, INT, run, pass, run, pass, pass, run, pass, run, run, pass, run, pass, run, pass,  Quinn goes down and leaves the game. 
 
 
 

Nice “recap” of the play sheet vs UTSA. I always thought he strained it rolling out to the left for a throw. If I remember right, he lofted one to a RB swinging to the right on the next play and then went to the sideline in pain. Scenarios of course could be different, but that’s what’s in my memory bank.

Kind of like Arch getting concussed during the OSU game when he ran for a 1st and they “reviewed” it for a possible fumble. The first replay I knew they were looking at the wrong thing/foul, as Targeting should’ve been called. They can call that penalty upon review from the booth/networks officials. Arch staggered when getting up and never touched the field again. Just my opinion, but I’m good with that.

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Just now, UTGrad98 said:

So we should have let a QB with 0 college football starts coming from a 2A high school lead our  team with one of the greatest defenses in Texas history instead of the guy who just came off a Michigan clinic the week before and a national semi final appearance where we were 1 throw from playing in a national championship the year before? You would have made that move in the moment, back in Sept? That's ridiculous. Of course its easy to try and say that now, after its all over.

Well technically he was 2-0 and we were talking about after Quinn had missed games. So nice try.

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Well technically he was 2-0 and we were talking about after Quinn had missed games. So nice try.

Against Miss State, who went winless in the SEC and finished last, and a directional school...with OU coming up next and all the expectations this team had at that time. Again, absurd to make that move in the moment with a freshman QB who had seen next to nothing in terms of defenses at the college level coming up against the meat of our schedule.

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2 minutes ago, UTGrad98 said:

Against Miss State, who went winless in the SEC and finished last, and a directional school...with OU coming up next

. . . after a bye week

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