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8 hours ago, NBHorn7 said:

Well, if Adolph hadn't decided to put the "do not disturb" sign on his bedroom door and sleep in on D-Day things might have been a little different too.

No way that invasion was coming to Normandy anyway.

On the other side of the coin, if Hirohito hadn't decided to stop playing God and speak to the Japanese people and surrender unconditionally. Japan would have been glowing for the next hundred years from all the radiation.

It is not entirely correct to put the full weight of an unwillingness to surrender entirely on Hirohito. The partnership between Japan and Hitler wasn't purely military oriented. There were a lot of cultural similarities specifically racist and a believe in superiority. While the Japanese culture is a top down, follow the leader then, and even still in many ways today, the Japanese people had bought in to the superiority belief. They, broadly speaking, were, culturally, ready to fight until every last Japanese citizen was dead because they could not lose. They couldn't lose because they were superior to all others. Kinda like how that one poster views QE as superior to all players all time and any failings land squarely on his teammates shoulders. 

All that said Im not a Japanese historian. I am happy to hear any clarification or error points on my understanding from anyone who is such an expert. 

 

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Is there a WW2 thread on surly where I can learn more about Quinn Ewers?

Not currently but there is a Ewers thread where you can discuss WWII and Japanese culture. Also, there is an Xavier Worthy thread where you can discuss specifics aspects of domestic abuse, laws and behaviors. There's a Deion Sanders thread where you can discuss racists and racism. There's a Cowboys thread where you can discuss depression, hopelessness and other psychological issues. There's a Mack Brown thread where you can discuss revisionist history. 

So, I mean, you seem pretty well covered but who doesn't need another WWII thread where we discuss Quinn. You should start one up amigo.

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5 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Not currently but there is a Ewers thread where you can discuss WWII and Japanese culture. Also, there is an Xavier Worthy thread where you can discuss specifics aspects of domestic abuse, laws and behaviors. There's a Deion Sanders thread where you can discuss racists and racism. There's a Cowboys thread where you can discuss depression, hopelessness and other psychological issues. There's a Mack Brown thread where you can discuss revisionist history. 

So, I mean, you seem pretty well covered but who doesn't need another WWII thread where we discuss Quinn. You should start one up amigo.

I remember when the Tate Martell thread evolved into a discussion of women's fashion. That was the day I realized I'm the brightest guy around here, and it's not even close.

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8 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

It is not entirely correct to put the full weight of an unwillingness to surrender entirely on Hirohito. The partnership between Japan and Hitler wasn't purely military oriented. There were a lot of cultural similarities specifically racist and a believe in superiority. While the Japanese culture is a top down, follow the leader then, and even still in many ways today, the Japanese people had bought in to the superiority belief. They, broadly speaking, were, culturally, ready to fight until every last Japanese citizen was dead because they could not lose. They couldn't lose because they were superior to all others. Kinda like how that one poster views QE as superior to all players all time and any failings land squarely on his teammates shoulders. 

All that said Im not a Japanese historian. I am happy to hear any clarification or error points on my understanding from anyone who is such an expert. 

 

Hirohito was not just the emperor he was a god to the Japanese people, superior to them by custom. The Japanese people had never even heard his voice before. When he told the people that Japan needed to unconditionally surrender it was over. The Japanese military couldn't convince him to fight on, they wanted to. They knew if he told the people to surrender that was the end and it was.

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6 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Not currently but there is a Ewers thread where you can discuss WWII and Japanese culture. Also, there is an Xavier Worthy thread where you can discuss specifics aspects of domestic abuse, laws and behaviors. There's a Deion Sanders thread where you can discuss racists and racism. There's a Cowboys thread where you can discuss depression, hopelessness and other psychological issues. There's a Mack Brown thread where you can discuss revisionist history. 

So, I mean, you seem pretty well covered but who doesn't need another WWII thread where we discuss Quinn. You should start one up amigo.

There was also that time you got mad I posted about TikTok in the Mark Zuckerberg karate thread

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8 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Is there a WW2 thread on surly where I can learn more about Quinn Ewers?

Quinn Ewers as Texas quarterback is history now, just like the actions in WWII are.

Talking about how other quarterbacks could have changed the course of Texas football seasons is much like how talking about how people or actions could have changed WWII.

So, there is a parallel between the two.

That is no matter how much you discuss either, none of it can be changed, that's why it's called history.

 

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On 3/9/2025 at 7:48 PM, MrBig said:

Sam’s deep ball was so bad, it would have been perfect for X to run and catch up to it instead of jogging for Quinn’s under thrown deep balls.

And Shane would have been great in this office. His deep ball was great and he could run without doing it like a battering ram the way Sam did. 

Quinn is fortunate he was able to come to Texas with the system Sark was putting into place. I don’t think we would have fired Herman if Quinn didn’t tell him and Texas to fuck off until they got a real coach. 

If Shane and Ash had our line we have today they would have been as good as Quinn, imo. I don't care about Quinn's dumb 1.00 rating. He was always hurt, regardless of the line. He was a statue. Shane and David woukd have actually understood the concept of moving through the pocket or out of it, not just standing there. God that was brutal to watch. 
 

Quinn is a cool guy, but we will never know what could have been if he weren't hurt every year, and if he could not fumble in critical times (Ohio State), and not find AD in the endzone on 4 consecutive plays. I don't care that we fumbled twice, we still could have won the game if Quinn could locate his target. 

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3 hours ago, ButtFumble said:

any thread with Tate Martell really can't devolve.....it is at the lowest the moment it starts

3 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

devolved*

The greeks called this Vulvagenesis 

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3 hours ago, NBHorn7 said:

Hirohito was not just the emperor he was a god to the Japanese people, superior to them by custom. The Japanese people had never even heard his voice before. When he told the people that Japan needed to unconditionally surrender it was over. The Japanese military couldn't convince him to fight on, they wanted to. They knew if he told the people to surrender that was the end and it was.

No disagreement at all. Not sure if you thought we were, but nothing in your post disagrees with what you responded to in mine. 

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19 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Shane Buechele literally invented the self sack/ throwaway. Dude hated being in the box. Thought it was icky and gross.

Self sack throw away > Self sack turnover

 

Quinn hates being outside the box, such a pussy.

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