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12 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

Hook 'em, Quinn. You were the best we've had since Colt. Thanks for helping us return to prominence. You're a really great person and are a fantastic representative of our university. I'll always be grateful that you came to Texas after Turtle Tom was ousted and I'm excited to see what you do on the next level.

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Quinn is the guy that got us back to being a top 5 program so I appreciate him and will root for him in the NFL, but on no planet was he a better college QB than Sam Ehlinger. IMO we win the NC the last two years if we had Sam.

Quinn vs Chris Simms is a better debate and I probably go with Quinn there given the Bama games.

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7 minutes ago, whereiend said:

Quinn is the guy that got us back to being a top 5 program so I appreciate him and will root for him in the NFL, but on no planet was he a better college QB than Sam Ehlinger. IMO we win the NC the last two years if we had Sam.

Quinn vs Chris Simms is a better debate and I probably go with Quinn there given the Bama games.

Quinn is and was better than Sam on this and every planet. And I like Sam. 

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4 minutes ago, Gucci_Suit said:

Quinn is and was better than Sam on this and every planet. And I like Sam. 

Sam with this roster talent would have been insane. He had 26 TDs to 5 INTs throwing to Josh Moore and Brennan Eagles. You think we are failing to score on the 1 yard line with Sam back there??

Quinn had insane rosters to work with. 30 draft picks over 3 years. And yet he never really put up great numbers or led super efficient offenses. The guy is a pretty good college QB but he probably ends up as a "failure" who transfers out if he played for Herman.

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3 hours ago, immamac said:

Except that one time where he was 1 game away in 2018 (big xii CCG rematch), played injured and then destroyed Georgia in a NY6 appearance for a top 10 finish. 

Quinn didn't lead shit to the playoffs, and he choked when it mattered. Everyone wants to talk about 4th and 13 but they want to forget about why it was even necessary. 

https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=43251140

This is why he fell so hard. It's because he's held to a different revisionist standard by fans with burnt orange glasses on. 

He didn't suck, but he proportionally gets more credit than he does blame for things that went poorly. That's why I've always maintained his games like Alabama and Michigan were incredible, he played to his potential and was a huge reason for winning and winning decisively. Then you have Oklahoma State, Georgia x2, Washington, Ohio State on film and man, that's some bad fucking film. 

I agree with this entirely and will add something two aspects. 

At the most pivotal moments of his career, he failed spectacularly. In the business world if you do very good work 90% of the time, maybe even great work, and at the pivotal moments in your business fall flat on your face, the other 90% is forgotten. You failed the big moments, thats not great for your career nor image particularly if you're the primary contact leading the enterprise. You'll be remembered for your failures not the rest of the 90%. In fairness, if there were signs that you would fail, multiple, and the CEO didn't put someone else in charge, a big part of it is on him too.

As for those who think fans here want him to fail in the NFL, you aren't reading the room. We are pointing out that the most critical assessors of Quinn's abilities side with OUR view rather that the raw raw Orange Glasses opinion that so many here have and continue to illustrate.

I won't speak for them all, but for myself, I WANTED to be wrong all along. I WANTED Quinn to lead us to a national championship, hell I bought tickets and had a room for the game. I'm in the minority here that actually attended the SEC championship game. I hoped Quinn and Sark would prove me wrong, but I was pretty damn sure my hope was misplaced and it turns out I was right.

I am pretty confident no Longhorn fan here actually wanted Quinn to fail. I don't know many fans that would rather be right and not see their team win a championship than be wrong and see it happen. 

I don't think any fans here wanted Quinn to drop in the draft as it ultimately is a net negative for Texas Athletics. We weren't cheering that he was drafted late.

What we were cheering was the validation of a very long period of being shit on in this very forum for expressing concerns and issues regarding Quinns capabilities. Of being told over and over that Quinn was great, had no flaws and none of the failure fell to Quinn, rather time and time again nearly or completely by some that 100% of the blame for those failures were placed on his teammates. Never holding Quinn accountable. 

And now, because we are grateful for that validation we are "hoping Quinn fails in the NFL, are ungrateful for what Quinn provided, told how dumb this thread is and that it should die", and that in essence we hate Quinn and any success he brought to Texas Athletics.

I don't, I dont think most posters here feel that way.

What we (or at least I) wanted was the validation of the concerns and issues we saw all season post Michigan. Over and over and over again. For which we were called haters, stupid and bad fans. 

That's an extremely reasonable and rational desire. 

For the record, I hope Quinn does amazing in the NFL, I would have like to have been wrong and seen him go higher in the draft, would have liked to have been wrong and have another NC trophy.

But I unfortunately I doubt he will, didn't and we don't.

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13 hours ago, Derka said:

i just spent the last 15 minutes going over posts from november of 2023 where the people on this board *crushed me*, and not in an, “i disagree with your takes” type of way, but in a, “i fucking hate you, nobody loves you, you’re a piece of shit” type of way, all because i had the gall to not blindly anoint QE and to have a differing opinion. i attacked no one; i was not insulting; and yet not only was i relentlessly attacked with personal shit talk, but i was then blamed for “derka’ing the thread”, when in fact i was the only civil person among the dozen+ people posting in the conversation. oh and in the end, i was right after all. and now you suddenly have a problem with me bringing that back up and pointing it out? too fucking bad. walk a mile in my shoes and then get back at me.

oh yeah, the cherry on top? not only was i posting non-combative, non-insulting, earnest football takes and getting relentless personal shit talk in return, someone even posted, “no one here is attacking you, people are just disagreeing with you and you can’t handle it.” i then quoted 10 different ad hominem personal attacks aimed at me from that day alone, and absolutely nobody even acknowledged it. it’s maga levels of self delusion and hatred that i’ve had to put up with. and you want me to just sit back and take it? no thank you. 

this routine where you guys get to be humongous pieces of shit to me for my (again, CORRECT but unpopular) football takes, but then you’ve suddenly got a huge problem with when i decide to call those people out for it? yeah, fuck all that. don’t start none won’t be none. you don’t get the moral high ground when you’re the asshole.

I think the saddest thing about all of this is that you care enough to dedicate this much time and energy to defending yourself and trying to prove a point to a bunch of strangers....on the internet...on a football message board. I mean talk about being out of touch with the reality of what is important in this world. That is what I usually take away from your posts, not whether you are right or wrong.

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People were mad at the kid for getting out of high school early to get 1.4 million dollars and the same people are saying he should’ve transferred to make more money.

I for one am glad he finished his career at Texas. He’s a Texas Exe whether we like it or not. In all honestly why wouldn’t you want someone to be a Texas Exe?

For this technical people, who knows if he really got his degree but he finished his career here so close enough.

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Just now, TexasExe14 said:

People were mad at the kid for getting out of high school early to get 1.4 million dollars and the same people are saying he should’ve transferred to make more money.

I for one am glad he finished his career at Texas. He’s a Texas Exe whether we like it or not. In all honestly why wouldn’t you want someone to be a Texas Exe?

For this technical people, who knows if he really got his degree but he finished his career here so close enough.

To be fair, there are a lot of people I wouldnt want to be a Texas Ex. Quinn earned his.

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6 minutes ago, TexasExe14 said:

People were mad at the kid for getting out of high school early to get 1.4 million dollars and the same people are saying he should’ve transferred to make more money.

I for one am glad he finished his career at Texas. He’s a Texas Exe whether we like it or not. In all honestly why wouldn’t you want someone to be a Texas Exe?

For this technical people, who knows if he really got his degree but he finished his career here so close enough.

Unrelated question, but why do you spell it "Exe"?

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26 minutes ago, Gucci_Suit said:

Quinn is and was better than Sam on this and every planet. And I like Sam. 

Quinn played with more drafted linemen than all Texas QBs combined since what 2008?

He never played at Texas without a draftable WR, TE or RB.

He never played without a top 10 defense.

His only game that we won in which the opponent scored 30+ was ASU.  They got that in OT to get to 31.  Beuchele, Card, Thompson, Sam all lost games scoring more than 31 points.  I don’t think Ewers ever did.

Theres no valid comparison between Ewers and any QB since Colt.

Ewers had probably a top 5-ish of all time opportunity.  Same system.  Same staff instructing.  Unmatched offensive talent in Texas history.  There’s not really a close 2nd.

He’s a more gifted Ken Dorsey without the title.

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16 minutes ago, TexasExe14 said:

People were mad at the kid for getting out of high school early to get 1.4 million dollars and the same people are saying he should’ve transferred to make more money.

I for one am glad he finished his career at Texas. He’s a Texas Exe whether we like it or not. In all honestly why wouldn’t you want someone to be a Texas Exe?

For this technical people, who knows if he really got his degree but he finished his career here so close enough.

I don't recall a single instance at any point of anyone on this thread or anywhere ever expressing any issue with Quinn coming to Texas or going to school here. Also, don't remember anyone here bitching or posting negative stuff about him getting out of school early for millions.

Please, enlighten me to all these posts here as I'm extremely curious.

Otherwise, this a fancy platitude like the many others expressing gratitude for his time at Texas while refusing to acknowledge the truth about his performance. 

There will be more in the near future, I'm sure.

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29 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I agree with this entirely and will add something two aspects. 

At the most pivotal moments of his career, he failed spectacularly. In the business world if you do very good work 90% of the time, maybe even great work, and at the pivotal moments in your business fall flat on your face, the other 90% is forgotten. You failed the big moments, thats not great for your career nor image particularly if you're the primary contact leading the enterprise. You'll be remembered for your failures not the rest of the 90%. In fairness, if there were signs that you would fail, multiple, and the CEO didn't put someone else in charge, a big part of it is on him too.

As for those who think fans here want him to fail in the NFL, you aren't reading the room. We are pointing out that the most critical assessors of Quinn's abilities side with OUR view rather that the raw raw Orange Glasses opinion that so many here have and continue to illustrate.

I won't speak for them all, but for myself, I WANTED to be wrong all along. I WANTED Quinn to lead us to a national championship, hell I bought tickets and had a room for the game. I'm in the minority here that actually attended the SEC championship game. I hoped Quinn and Sark would prove me wrong, but I was pretty damn sure my hope was misplaced and it turns out I was right.

I am pretty confident no Longhorn fan here actually wanted Quinn to fail. I don't know many fans that would rather be right and not see their team win a championship than be wrong and see it happen. 

I don't think any fans here wanted Quinn to drop in the draft as it ultimately is a net negative for Texas Athletics. We weren't cheering that he was drafted late.

What we were cheering was the validation of a very long period of being shit on in this very forum for expressing concerns and issues regarding Quinns capabilities. Of being told over and over that Quinn was great, had no flaws and none of the failure fell to Quinn, rather time and time again nearly or completely by some that 100% of the blame for those failures were placed on his teammates. Never holding Quinn accountable. 

And now, because we are grateful for that validation we are "hoping Quinn fails in the NFL, are ungrateful for what Quinn provided, told how dumb this thread is and that it should die", and that in essence we hate Quinn and any success he brought to Texas Athletics.

I don't, I dont think most posters here feel that way.

What we (or at least I) wanted was the validation of the concerns and issues we saw all season post Michigan. Over and over and over again. For which we were called haters, stupid and bad fans. 

That's an extremely reasonable and rational desire. 

For the record, I hope Quinn does amazing in the NFL, I would have like to have been wrong and seen him go higher in the draft, would have liked to have been wrong and have another NC trophy.

But I unfortunately I doubt he will, didn't and we don't.

Are you the same Burnt Eyes from the CFN forums back in the day?? (2000-2004 or so). Those were good times.

Quinn is an interesting character in Longhorn football history. The only guy that really compare for me is Chris Simms. He has some homer fanboys that I assume are Southlake people, or maybe they just bought too much into the recruiting hype. These are the types that even today claim he has "generational arm talent" and that sort of thing.

Then he also some very overzealous haters who act like he is Case McCoy out there. I think Arch is a big factor here as many have wanted to watch him play instead.

There is respect for Quinn being the guy that led us back in to the top 5 but also criticism for often being the weak link of the top 5 teams.

There are some moments of true brilliance (e.g. Bama games) but also some absolute disasters like Oklahoma State and Georgia Then there is the injury component that makes him unreliable but also left a faint hope that maybe he could put it together when finally healthy.

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3 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Quinn played with more drafted linemen than all Texas QBs combined since what 2008?

He never played at Texas without a draftable WR, TE or RB.

He never played without a top 10 defense.

His only game that we won in which the opponent scored 30+ was ASU.  They got that in OT to get to 31.  Beuchele, Card, Thompson, Sam all lost games scoring more than 31 points.  I don’t think Ewers ever did.

Theres no valid comparison between Ewers and any QB since Colt.

Ewers had probably a top 5-ish of all time opportunity.  Same system.  Same staff instructing.  Unmatched offensive talent in Texas history.  There’s not really a close 2nd.

He’s a more gifted Ken Dorsey without the title.

Quinn 

Draft Pick # 231 

7th round

Sam

Draft pick # 213

6th Round 

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31 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I agree with this entirely and will add something two aspects. 

At the most pivotal moments of his career, he failed spectacularly. In the business world if you do very good work 90% of the time, maybe even great work, and at the pivotal moments in your business fall flat on your face, the other 90% is forgotten. You failed the big moments, thats not great for your career nor image particularly if you're the primary contact leading the enterprise. You'll be remembered for your failures not the rest of the 90%. In fairness, if there were signs that you would fail, multiple, and the CEO didn't put someone else in charge, a big part of it is on him too.

As for those who think fans here want him to fail in the NFL, you aren't reading the room. We are pointing out that the most critical assessors of Quinn's abilities side with OUR view rather that the raw raw Orange Glasses opinion that so many here have and continue to illustrate.

I won't speak for them all, but for myself, I WANTED to be wrong all along. I WANTED Quinn to lead us to a national championship, hell I bought tickets and had a room for the game. I'm in the minority here that actually attended the SEC championship game. I hoped Quinn and Sark would prove me wrong, but I was pretty damn sure my hope was misplaced and it turns out I was right.

I am pretty confident no Longhorn fan here actually wanted Quinn to fail. I don't know many fans that would rather be right and not see their team win a championship than be wrong and see it happen. 

I don't think any fans here wanted Quinn to drop in the draft as it ultimately is a net negative for Texas Athletics. We weren't cheering that he was drafted late.

What we were cheering was the validation of a very long period of being shit on in this very forum for expressing concerns and issues regarding Quinns capabilities. Of being told over and over that Quinn was great, had no flaws and none of the failure fell to Quinn, rather time and time again nearly or completely by some that 100% of the blame for those failures were placed on his teammates. Never holding Quinn accountable. 

And now, because we are grateful for that validation we are "hoping Quinn fails in the NFL, are ungrateful for what Quinn provided, told how dumb this thread is and that it should die", and that in essence we hate Quinn and any success he brought to Texas Athletics.

I don't, I dont think most posters here feel that way.

What we (or at least I) wanted was the validation of the concerns and issues we saw all season post Michigan. Over and over and over again. For which we were called haters, stupid and bad fans. 

That's an extremely reasonable and rational desire. 

For the record, I hope Quinn does amazing in the NFL, I would have like to have been wrong and seen him go higher in the draft, would have liked to have been wrong and have another NC trophy.

But I unfortunately I doubt he will, didn't and we don't.

This is an excellent post. No one was rooting for Quinn to fail, some of us were just put off by the constant sunshine pumping of Quinn’s greatness (border-lining on aggy levels of delusion) when we could all see what was happening game after game.

It’s one thing to want your guy to succeed, it’s another thing to blame everyone else for a player’s faults because you can’t separate your homerism from the truth.

It also pissed me off when @Thatguy kept saying how unhappy Quinn was on campus because of the fan base when him and the team were treated like kings. I was there when Garrett Gilbert got booed off the field against BYU, and it was ugly, and that’s the sentiment that the Quinn diehards were pushing about the Texas fans’ feelings towards Quinn. It wasn’t even close and any criticism meant we wanted Quinn to fail. Sometimes the truth hurts, even if you were destined for greatness. 

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I don't recall a single instance at any point of anyone on this thread or anywhere ever expressing any issue with Quinn coming to Texas or going to school here. Also, don't remember anyone here bitching or posting negative stuff about him getting out of school early for millions.
Please, enlighten me to all these posts here as I'm extremely curious.
Otherwise, this a fancy platitude like the many others expressing gratitude for his time at Texas while refusing to acknowledge the truth about his performance. 
There will be more in the near future, I'm sure.

I wasn’t saying anyone from here necessarily but a lot of people on x were saying it, he should’ve transferred. And they were probably the same ones giving him a hard time when he left high school to grab a bag.

Granted, his decision making wasn’t great from the beginning but I also would’ve left school early to get a million dollars. If he was gonna leave school early he should’ve picked a different university. I think at that time he would’ve sat behind stroud 2 years. Or maybe I’m misrememebring.
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Quinn gave us his best. I would criticize him for one thing only- if (and it is “if”, because none of us know) before the 2024 OU game, he overstated his health and readiness to play to Sark. That was the biggest decision to seal him as the 2024 QB, over Arch, but Sark was the one that made it. 
 
And I don’t really fault Sark. OU only had one loss, and you knew Venables was going to bring some crazy defensive looks, to take advantage of a freshman starter in a high pressure situation. At the time, we didn’t appreciate yet how awful OU’s offense was with Hawkins at QB (he was undefeated, 1-0, in conference). I understand why he would want to start the experienced guy in that situation. 
 
The next major decision point was the UGA game. We all know how disastrous that started. Klatt described it well- Ewers was rattled and Sark pulled him, to give him a chance to collect himself, but also knowing (as did Arch and Quinn) that if Arch played well, Quinn wasn’t going back in. Arch didn’t play well, and Quinn played a little better when he came back for the second half. 
 
At that point, Texas was 6-1, and needed to finish strong and make the CFP. No changes would be made unless there were injury or Ewers’ play falling off a cliff.
 
A lot of people seem to be upset with Quinn for Sark’s decisions. I don’t blame anyone; they’re games and all I ask of players and coaches is that they do their best. 
 
Why aren’t more people upset that Bond kept his starting job so long after he stopped making good plays and effort? That, arguably, cost us the SEC CG and Cotton Bowl. 

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What @immamac said about 4th and 13 is perfect.

Yes, he made the play. Give him credit for that, but let's not forget he was protected by an NFL front line, throwing to a First Round WR whose talent was welcomed to the league by a sea of elated fans, and that a Day 1/Day 2 QB probably should not have been in that situation to begin with.

Let's be even more brutally honest here: if he overthrew that pass or if Golden had been covered better, nobody would've been shocked to see him drop to RD7. All of that being said, I still think he has RD1 upside, which is how he was a 1.000 five star recruit. He probably would've been the starting QB at Ohio State if he had not transferred. His stats would have been better if he hadn't been injured by Alabama in 2022 or UTSA in 2024.

There's so much "woulda, coulda" on his resume and then the injury history that I understand teams being afraid of the risk.

The key difference for me is that I don't need to shit on him or root for him to fail. I don't need to express ingratitude either. That's loser shit. He deserves a ton of credit and a ton of respect from the fans as long as he truly hasn't embarrassed himself like Justin Tucker.

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1 minute ago, TexasExe14 said:


I wasn’t saying anyone from here necessarily but a lot of people on x were saying it, he should’ve transferred. And they were probably the same ones giving him a hard time when he left high school to grab a bag.

Granted, his decision making wasn’t great from the beginning but I also would’ve left school early to get a million dollars. If he was gonna leave school early he should’ve picked a different university. I think at that time he would’ve sat behind stroud 2 years. Or maybe I’m misrememebring.

Gonna be blunt, don't know or care what idiots on Twitter were posting about college football or recruiting in 2021 and I'm not really sure why it's relevant.

Also, doesn't answer the question about who took issue with Quinn attending the University of Texas. 

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19 minutes ago, WineGuy69 said:

I think the saddest thing about all of this is that you care enough to dedicate this much time and energy to defending yourself and trying to prove a point to a bunch of strangers....on the internet...on a football message board. I mean talk about being out of touch with the reality of what is important in this world. That is what I usually take away from your posts, not whether you are right or wrong.

Several people of the course of the last two years have tried to convince us LOUDLY and OFTEN that what we witnessed with our own eyes was not true.
 
Many talk about Derka being delusional but it seems like the majority of the posters in this thread were as delusional about Quinn as Quinn himself was. Starting from when he went against the advice of Ohio State to stay in fucking HS.

The draft was a reality check for a lot of you who have told us LOUDLY and OFTEN for the past two years we weren’t seeing what we saw with QE.

I’m not sure what the heck y’all were watching. But I have tits so I probably don’t know shit about football, 🏈 right? Shit it seems I know more than about a 100 of you do.

some of Y’all  just suck at admitting you were wrong as fuck about it. 

Those of us who were right can like QE and want the best for him and still think he isn’t what y’all kept trying to convince he was on the football field. Duh. Somehow we weren’t allowed to hold think those two things. One criticism of him and you were a hater. 

I like QE. I am glad he was drafted, I hope he succeeds in Miami. I wish him well I want him to succeed, I hope he does and has a long career. 

it’s ok to also say we saw what we saw the past two years. And the NFL agrees with us. 

But fucking A, we got 12 players drafted and some signed as UFA’s. This has been a hell of a two years and I thank QE for his service and hope he is a Dolphin for many years to come. 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

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5 minutes ago, statsman said:

Quinn gave us his best. I would criticize him for one thing only- if (and it is “if”, because none of us know) before the 2024 OU game, he overstated his health and readiness to play to Sark. That was the biggest decision to seal him as the 2024 QB, over Arch, but Sark was the one that made it. 
 
And I don’t really fault Sark. OU only had one loss, and you knew Venables was going to bring some crazy defensive looks, to take advantage of a freshman starter in a high pressure situation. At the time, we didn’t appreciate yet how awful OU’s offense was with Hawkins at QB (he was undefeated, 1-0, in conference). I understand why he would want to start the experienced guy in that situation. 
 
The next major decision point was the UGA game. We all know how disastrous that started. Klatt described it well- Ewers was rattled and Sark pulled him, to give him a chance to collect himself, but also knowing (as did Arch and Quinn) that if Arch played well, Quinn wasn’t going back in. Arch didn’t play well, and Quinn played a little better when he came back for the second half. 
 
A lot of people seem to be upset with Quinn for Sark’s decisions. I don’t blame anyone; they’re games and all I ask of players and coaches is that they do their best. 
 
Why aren’t more people upset that Bond kept his starting job so long after he stopped making good plays and effort? That, arguably, cost us the SEC CG and Cotton Bowl. 

Quinn threw a pick 6 in the RZ in the cotton bowl and fumbled close to the RZ in Atlanta.

How the fuck are those losses on Bond?

This is exactly what I said early, never holding Quinn accountable.

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59 minutes ago, whereiend said:

You think we are failing to score on the 1 yard line with Sam back there

Sark would still have gotten too cute with his play calling. He wouldn't have run Sam into the line four times until he was concussed. 

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2 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Several people of the course of the last two years have tried to convince us LOUDLY and OFTEN that what we witnessed with our own eyes was not true.
 
Many talk about Derka being delusional but it seems like the majority of the posters in this thread were as delusional about Quinn as Quinn himself was. Starting from when he went against the advice of Ohio State to stay in fucking HS.

The draft was a reality check for a lot of you who have told us LOUDLY and OFTEN for the past two years we weren’t seeing what we saw with QE.

I’m not sure what the heck y’all were watching. But I have tits so I probably don’t know shit about football, 🏈 right? Shit it seems I know more than about a 100 of you do.

some of Y’all  just suck at admitting you were wrong as fuck about it. 

Those of us who were right can like QE and want the best for him and still think he isn’t what y’all kept trying to convince he was on the football field. Duh. Somehow we weren’t allowed to hold think those two things. One criticism of him and you were a hater. 

I like QE. I am glad he was drafted, I hope he succeeds in Miami. I wish him well I want him to succeed, I hope he does and has a long career. 

it’s ok to also say we saw what we saw the past two years. And the NFL agrees with us. 

But fucking A, we got 12 players drafted and some signed as UFA’s. This has been a hell of a two years and I thank QE for his service and hope he is a Dolphin for many years to come. 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

Why is it important for you to convince internet strangers of your opinion? Obviously this is a message board, but there is a difference in posting an opinion and sitting there for years trying to convince a bunch of random people of your opinion. Maybe I guess I wish I had that energy.

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5 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Quinn threw a pick 6 in the RZ in the cotton bowl and fumbled close to the RZ in Atlanta.

How the fuck are those losses on Bond?

This is exactly what I said early, never holding Quinn accountable.

What pick 6 in the CB? The stadium or the CB game? Do you even watch the games?

 
Bond spent the last few games giving up on routes and not blocking. Again, Sark deserves the criticism for not moving on from him, although we don’t know what was being said and done behind the scenes. 

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It’s amazing that without another possible game to play wearing the Burnt Orange, please let’s just put the Quinn bashing to rest. Yes, we came up short twice from the pinnacle of possibilities, but man - where were we the previous decade as a program?

Thank you Quinn for helping acquire additional talent and helping resurrect the program to where it is now. Even brighter days on the horizon!

Hook’em!!’

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Quinn is all good in my book.  He did more to help Texas win games than I ever did.  Wishing him best of luck at the next level!

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5 minutes ago, WineGuy69 said:

Why is it important for you to convince internet strangers of your opinion? Obviously this is a message board, but there is a difference in posting an opinion and sitting there for years trying to convince a bunch of random people of your opinion. Maybe I guess I wish I had that energy.

Why does it bother you?

Maybe it’s because so many were 100% wrong and now they just want to move the goalposts away from that?

Instead of eating a richly deserved fried crow sandwich? And admitting they were wrong? 

It is a tactic we see a lot in politics. Be wrong a buttload. Then when proven wrong try to move the goalposts. And then say the people who were right all along are obsessed or assholes for feeling vindicated. Gaslighting and goalpost moving. 

nah. They can eat the fucking fried crow sandwich. With the crust on. 

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1 minute ago, msucolt45 said:

It’s amazing that without another possible game to play wearing the Burnt Orange, please let’s just put the Quinn bashing to rest. Yes, we came up short twice from the pinnacle of possibilities, but man - where were we the previous decade as a program?

Thank you Quinn for helping acquire additional talent and helping resurrect the program to where it is now. Even brighter days on the horizon!

Hook’em!!’

More platitudes and ironic "let the thread die" posts, without acknowledging the realities.

Hint, the second part is why it wont.

 

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Just now, Nicole44 said:

Why does it bother you?

Maybe it’s because so many were 100% wrong and now they just want to move the goalposts away from that?

Instead of eating a richly deserved fried crow sandwich? And admitting they were wrong? 

It is a tactic we see a lot in politics. Be wrong a buttload. Then when proven wrong try to move the goalposts. And then say the people who were right all along are obsessed or assholes for feeling vindicated. Gaslighting and goalpost moving. 

nah. They can eat the fucking fried crow sandwich. With the crust on. 

But again, why is it important for you to try to make random internet strangers, that you will never meet, change their mind over such a silly topic in a global lens. Why is that important for you to put your time and energy into?

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If you’re down by a TD with 2min left, do you feel confident in Quinn Ewers delivering the ‘W’?  Does the team?  I sure as hell didn’t, and apparently the NFL doesn’t either.  Does that mean Ewers is garbage?  No.  We’re talking about striving to be one of the elite of the elite here.  We’re talking about the mountain top.  What typically gets drafted in a given year?……. a dozen QBs on average?  And how many of those REALLY have expectations?……2 to 5 in a given year?  Quinn’s never been that guy.  Early in his Longhorns career, you could hope it was youth and inexperience.  Last year was the time to bloom, and the dude just came up short.  His draft stock fell consistently from August to January.  The Dolphins QB room is currently Tua w/ Zach Wilson and Ewers waiting for the inevitable concussion for their opportunity.  There are certainly worse situations for a 7th RD QB to have fallen into.  The league has already decided the former #2 pick, Wilson, is a backup NFL QB at best.  If Quinn can’t beat him out for the #2 spot, that will say volumes

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2 minutes ago, WineGuy69 said:

But again, why is it important for you to try to make random internet strangers, that you will never meet, change their mind over such a silly topic in a global lens. Why is that important for you to put your time and energy into?

It’s not that deep. No one is this thread has ever made a negative comment about Quinn’s character. No one is denying how great of a representative he was for the University. It’s simply football talk on a football thread.

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1 minute ago, WineGuy69 said:

But again, why is it important for you to try to make random internet strangers, that you will never meet, change their mind over such a silly topic in a global lens. Why is that important for you to put your time and energy into?

I have been a part of this community for years and I have tried to promote it as much as I can.

I also take a lot more shit for my posts from a bunch of know it alls who are wrong. Repeatedly. They have no problem putting my shit on blast gang style and attacking me for my wrongness. But when called out and proven wrong on national television they just want the talk to go away and say those of us who were slammed are petty for brining it up? Nah. GTFO with that noise. 

Now they just want us to all move on. Sure. These same people if QE would have been drafted in Round one or two or three would have come back here and crowed and celebrated and put those of us who seem to understand football better than they do on blast. 
 

💥 we all want QE to succeed. That doesn’t mean some of us are blind and irretrievably moronic about what we saw on the field the last two seasons. 

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4 minutes ago, Steelers Roll Left said:

If you’re down by a TD with 2min left, do you feel confident in Quinn Ewers delivering the ‘W’?  Does the team?  I sure as hell didn’t, and apparently the NFL doesn’t either.  Does that mean Ewers is garbage?  No.  We’re talking about striving to be one of the elite of the elite here.  We’re talking about the mountain top.  What typically gets drafted in a given year?……. a dozen QBs on average?  And how many of those REALLY have expectations?……2 to 5 in a given year?  Quinn’s never been that guy.  Early in his Longhorns career, you could hope it was youth and inexperience.  Last year was the time to bloom, and the dude just came up short.  His draft stock fell consistently from August to January.  The Dolphins QB room is currently Tua w/ Zach Wilson and Ewers waiting for the inevitable concussion for their opportunity.  There are certainly worse situations for a 7th RD QB to have fallen into.  The league has already decided the former #2 pick, Wilson, is a backup NFL QB at best.  If Quinn can’t beat him out for the #2 spot, that will say volumes

He will get his chance. The saddest part for him is he missed out on some financial stability when he passed on guaranteed NIL for a chance at a high NFL salary. He was advised poorly, and likely because the people he trusted most chased away the ones who would have provided the best advice to him.

I can't say I would have liked to see him finish his college career at another school, but I don't love seeing him take a huge pay cut after his spending habits had probably grown accustomed to having much higher income.

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Quinn is in the same tier as Simms and Major to me.  Good college QBs with flaws you’re unlikely to win a championship with.  Sam had flaws to.  I think we could have won a championship with him this season though with this supporting cast.  More of a gamer and better in red zone. 

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Good article in the NYT this morning on Quinn's decision. Personally I think the decision came down to combination of a better QB group in 2026 plus risk of a career ending injury at Notre Dame or wherever.

I don't think he planned on having such a bad workout with missed deep passes and wounded ducks. Ultimately the film and bad workout and combine cost him.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6314185/2025/04/27/quinn-ewers-miami-dolphins-texas-nfl-college-football-nil/

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1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

Of being told over and over that Quinn was great, had no flaws and none of the failure fell to Quinn,

Are you fucking serious right now?  Who actually said that?

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17 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Are you fucking serious right now?  Who actually said that?

Thatguy spent pages and pages and pages on it. Did you put him on ignore? 

Hell, on this page someone was just blaming Bond for a lot of our losses.

You can't be this myopic.

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38 minutes ago, WineGuy69 said:

But again, why is it important for you to try to make random internet strangers, that you will never meet, change their mind over such a silly topic in a global lens. Why is that important for you to put your time and energy into?

There are many "types" of people who bother me. One of the most bothersome types is people who are shocked & upset that football is being discussed on a football message board.

WineGuy69, I think you gave it your best shot, but I am going to have to ask you to leave. 

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Just now, BurntEyes said:

Thatguy spent pages and pages and pages on it. Did you put him on ignore? 

Hell, on this page someone was just blaming Bond for a lot of our losses.

You can't be this myopic.

He didn't say Quinn had no flaws.  You don't need to exaggerate to make your point.

Personally, I think blaming any one player for a loss is pretty silly except in extreme cases.

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GM of Dolphins basically came out and said they did sark a solid cuz it was a whatever pick and they trust what he said. A lot of the reason they drafted him had to do with conversations with sark, not from tape or combine or fit etc. 

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

He didn't say Quinn had no flaws.  You don't need to exaggerate to make your point.

Personally, I think blaming any one player for a loss is pretty silly except in extreme cases.

Except for Bert Auburn who missed very makeable fucking kicks and actually lost games. 

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I really don’t get this thread. It’s obvious that Quinn wasn’t as good as his rating/hype and not as bad as so many haters on here want to hate on him. 

He was a pretty good but not great QB for Texas who had a lot of success in terms of W/L but not demonstrating an ability to stick in the NFL. That’s his legacy, and it should be undisputed. 

I won’t yet write him off for the nfl because Ido believe he’s been hurt the last two years. Maybe he shows something. 

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These coaches watched the qb room all year. It'll blow people's minds to learn Quinn was better than Arch in 2024, but folks would rather believe Sark was afraid of being kneecapped by the Southlake mafia. If that room was slightly better in 2024, we're probably champions. It might be better in 2025, might not.

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If he flames out in the NFL, and I hope he doesn't, I'd welcome him into Sark's coaching tree. Someone who's played the position and been in the same exact spotlight would absolutely be an asset.

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10 minutes ago, immamac said:

Except for Bert Auburn who missed very makeable fucking kicks and actually lost games. 

That was the guy I was thinking of, but even a 40 yard kick from the right hash isn't a total gimme.  And, there are a huge number of mistakes by all kinds of guys that accumulate to put a team in that spot.  

But, yeah.

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