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2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Seeing stuff like this go around social media is a reminder of another fuckup by Quinn's agent/team. 

He was always going pro, but nobody from Quinn's team shot down all these NIL offer rumors. Burton was adamant that he was declaring for the draft, but nothing definitive was said by Ewers until very late. I'd guess his agent probably thought any publicity is good publicity, but it was a completely unnecessary distraction. So now he'll have to deal with this narrative for a long time. So dumb. 

Or maybe they were keeping their options open and hedging their bets till the last minute.

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13 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

Or maybe they were keeping their options open and hedging their bets till the last minute.

Yeah, I don't buy it. If they were actually keeping their options open and had legitimate big $$$ NIL offers, he would have taken it and transferred. 

 

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58 minutes ago, BERT said:

Yes, 100% Dilfer is better than Dan Marion. Marion sucks ass, fuck that guy.

Now that you say that, I agree.  I’d take Dion Marion over Difler though.

38 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

Plenty of great college QBs don't have NFL talent. Sam had a lot heart and grit, and that goes a long way in college as long as you have a decent skill set and don't make a ton of mistakes. Sam threw well enough, and was an asset in the run game. Quinn has the better arm and vision, but he had zero mobility (why did Sark call so many zone read type plays where everyone in the stadium knew Quinn would never keep it?), throws off his back foot, not a great deep threat, yada yada. I think the 2024 team would've had a better chance to win a championship with Sam at QB, but it's also possible Sam could've made mistakes that cost us a regular season game or two. Sark would prefer Quinn because he's so sure his system is brilliant and Quinn is a precision instrument he can plug into it. Sark's strategy and situational playcalling has to improve, no matter who plays QB.

Sark would likely not recruit Sam.  He had an opportunity to have him as his QB.  Ideally he wants the guy that can “make all the throws” Nevermind all those would be incredibly infrequent.  In all my life, I’ve only seen one dude make a 1st down on 3rd and 10 scrambling for the first when the defense dropped 10 guys, but Sark doesn’t care about the dude that “can make all the scrambles.”

15 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


Seems like we talk about it every few seasons. Shipley was injury prone when he arrived, Kirk Johnson, Whittington. There have been several players that never see the field for long periods of time because they stay hurt with something. Is it growing faster than their body can support, improper form with lifting or running, something biological? For some, it may be a mental thing.

Think Whittington and Johnson were related to being too bulky and inflexible this leading to their troubles.  Flexibility issues cause problems.

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15 hours ago, Zeus said:

lol 

just admit you are wrong at some point

 

Hah! Good one.

In the midst of Steph Curry's current  playoff run, I'm reminded of P's Shaggy HoF take that Curry would be easy to shut down if a team would just put a tall guard on him. 10 years later, the dumb NBA still hasn't solved 37-year old Curry.

Don't recall him taking the L on that one, but maybe I missed it.

Posted
2 hours ago, Zeus said:

Will Arch freeze up against a rush and take bad sacks?

Will Sark have to run the ball every down in the 4th quarter to avoid disaster with a pass play?

Time to get Owens some game reps!  This guy didn't cut it!

(if this isn't obvious, I am being ridiculous)

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Posted
14 hours ago, Derka said:

first of all, yes you do. you have soooooo much time, you just don’t want to spend it here, because that would mean posting here when the majority has flipped, and every excuse-laden post that you make won’t be blindly pos-repped by everyone in the crowd.

second, it’s weak as shit spend day after day, week after week, month after month telling half of this thread that they’re full of shit, only to then say, “i don’t have time to post here anymore” as soon as every organization in the nfl sides with the people who you’ve sworn were wrong for so long. it would have been better if you’d just ghosted this thread rather than to come here and pretend like you have better shit to do than make up half of the posts on every single page of this exact thread, when we all know you’ve got plenty of time for that.

Here is the thing Derka since you finally wanna respond. I have what 5000 posts here with the same handle over all the years the place has been here. Why is that? Because I don't really post on the football board unless its football season. Me not posting here isn't a new thing. Meanwile, you've had many different names since we've been here. It wasn't that long ago that you went back to Derka and you are already over 5000 posts.

The draft is opinions. Play is play. Many people who were drafted high turned out to be trash and many that were drafted low turned out to be good. You guys are using it as validation to how you felt about Quinn. And you are welcome to do that, right? I like to talk about actual play. Quinn has a lot of things that went into that draft grade besides what you say like being injured every year since playing football. Size. Low sidearm delivery. But again, get your digs in Derka, and anyone else who might wanna take a swing. We will see how things look in a few months when he gets his shot under center. But remember this post, because if he plays well I am going to drag your ass around this forum. You will never hear the end of it because you didn't even take the time to see what he looked like before your "I told you so".

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17 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

Hah! Good one.

In the midst of Steph Curry's current  playoff run, I'm reminded of P's Shaggy HoF take that Curry would be easy to shut down if a team would just put a tall guard on him. 10 years later, the dumb NBA still hasn't solved 37-year old Curry.

Don't recall him taking the L on that one, but maybe I missed it.

It's like you don't even know how many underwhelming shooting performances Curry has had in the playoffs in his career. But I will let you keep talking.

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3 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

The draft is opinions. Play is play. Many people who were drafted high turned out to be trash and many that were drafted low turned out to be good. You guys are using it as validation to how you felt about Quinn. 

Predicting people will fail in the NFL is like predicting people will not win the lottery and then trying to validate oneself because one knew those numbers were wrong.  

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16 hours ago, Zeus said:

lol 

just admit you are wrong at some point

Nobody here wanted Quinn to suck and then get picked in the 7th round, but that’s how it went. 

Wrong about what? Where he was drafted? For people who claim to not want Quinn to suck you sure are on here proclaiming it prior to him ever taking a snap in the NFL. I said let's wait and see what he looks like in the league. How about we do that? Maybe he and Sanders are better than their draft positions. Maybe Cam will wash out.

1 minute ago, Fondren & Main said:

It would be hilarious to me if Will Howard turned out to be a good pro.

me too. Hard to believe after all we saw over the years that he would be drafted that high. But when you are throwing to cheat codes....

Posted
25 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

It's like you don't even know how many underwhelming shooting performances Curry has had in the playoffs in his career. But I will let you keep talking.

Ok! Well, Steph Curry is top 20 all time in playoff PER. Basically tied with West and Paul as the most efficient playoff PG of all time. 

There's also the 4 championships, yadda yadda. Still unmoved?

Posted
34 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

It's like you don't even know how many underwhelming shooting performances Curry has had in the playoffs in his career. But I will let you keep talking.

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I read an article today by Nicole Auerbach. It's not an unusual take. In fact, I'd say it's the common one. Here's a link to the article:

Instead of the NFL Draft, Quinn Ewers should have entered the transfer portal

Here's the article spoilered:

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The Shedeur Sanders saga extracted most of the oxygen from the NFL Draft apparatus over the weekend, and rightfully so. But Sanders’ fifth-round selection wasn’t the only notable slide for a big-name quarterback.

Quinn Ewers, the starting quarterback for the Texas Longhorns in back-to-back College Football Playoff appearances, came off the board even later. He didn’t hear his name called until the seventh round, when he went 231st overall to the Miami Dolphins. The former five-star recruit had done all he could for the Longhorns over his three years there — and someone named Arch Manning waiting in the wings to take over in Austin, so the timing made sense for Ewers to leave. But … he also had a history of injuries and a year of eligibility remaining.

Ewers would have been better off entering the transfer portal instead of entering the NFL draft.

You could make the case based on money alone, and many are. He would have almost assuredly made more money in NIL deals than he will as a seventh-round pick. The No. 231 draft slot is estimated to have a value of $4.3 million over four years. It’s possible he could have commanded a deal to earn $4 million (or more) as a transfer — in just one season. Had he entered the portal back in December with so many blueblood programs searching for new starting quarterbacks, it’s quite possible he would have cleared the $4 million benchmark set by a less accomplished quarterback (Carson Beck).

But the reason many of us (including me) are questioning Ewers’ decision to go pro is not just about the money. I would never argue that a player should chase the biggest possible payday over any other factor — fit, development, family reasons, etc. And I understand that he grew up rooting for the Longhorns and was happy to conclude his collegiate career at Texas. He’d helped bring the Longhorns back to national relevance, and he’d taken the team to the CFP semis twice. His legacy was set in stone. Hell, even if Ewers had transferred elsewhere for one final season, it’s easy to imagine that Texas fans would have happily rooted for him from afar. We’ve seen it happen plenty of times in the modern era of college football.

But was Ewers truly ready to go to the NFL? Was his draft stock as high as it would ever be?

Difficult, honest answers to questions like those are what drive players’ decisions to return to college, even when they are so, so close to achieving their lifelong dream of playing in the NFL. They want to be best-positioned for success in the league — so they go back to school (or go to a different school) to address weaknesses in their game. A dual-threat quarterback might pick a more pro-style offense to show scouts he can succeed in that kind of system, too. An injury-prone player might just want another chance to stay healthy and perform closer to his ceiling. We celebrate players — like Cam Ward, who just went No. 1 overall after entering and withdrawing from the draft a year ago — who return to school, develop their game and improve their draft stock.

Ewers obviously did not want nor expect to be a seventh-round draft pick. He did not expect to be the 13th quarterback off the board — or the 14th, actually, if you count Montana State’s Tommy Mellott as a quarterback instead of a receiver. Despite being a significantly more gifted passer, Ewers was drafted behind Riley Leonard and Graham Mertz.

Heading into the draft, NBC Sports NFL analyst Chris Simms listed Ewers in his third tier of QB prospects alongside Syracuse quarterback Kyle McCord, the nation’s leading passer last season. The Athletic’s Dane Brugler gave Ewers a third-round grade and considered him the sixth-best quarterback in the class.

But that’s not how NFL scouts and front office personnel ultimately viewed Ewers — even compared to his peers in what was considered a weak quarterback draft class. That is the tough pill to swallow. That’s why you wish he’d had access to a crystal ball and could see that seventh-round selection coming months ago, so maybe he could have made a different decision.

It is, unfortunately, too late now.

Here's the part I want to take exception to:

"But the reason many of us (including me) are questioning Ewers’ decision to go pro is not just about the money. I would never argue that a player should chase the biggest possible payday over any other factor — fit, development, family reasons, etc. And I understand that he grew up rooting for the Longhorns and was happy to conclude his collegiate career at Texas. He’d helped bring the Longhorns back to national relevance, and he’d taken the team to the CFP semis twice. His legacy was set in stone. Hell, even if Ewers had transferred elsewhere for one final season, it’s easy to imagine that Texas fans would have happily rooted for him from afar. We’ve seen it happen plenty of times in the modern era of college football."

I would not have been rooting for Quinn Ewers from afar. This is a mistake. I'm not saying I speak for all fans. I don't. But I do know many fans feel the same way as me. The last school a player attends will tend to be the one they're associated with. There might be some exceptions. Probably Alabama fans claim Jalen Hurts. I don't know. But his legacy at Alabama is a bit skewed because of his season at Oklahoma. Dillon Gabriel will forever be associated with Oregon way more so than Oklahoma. 

Auerbach mentions Cam Ward, but who is going to associate Ward with Washington State any more? Is he going back to campus on a regular basis? Is he going to appear on the sidelines for future Cougar games?

The whole thing gets awkward after a transfer. 

If you start to put a price on it, then it becomes transactional. Is it worth $4 million to not associate yourself as closely with the University of Texas? Honestly, it probably would be for me. But what if I'd already made more than $5 million during my collegiate career - maybe a lot more - and I expected to make millions more during a pro career? The money wouldn't mean as much. There's an emotional investment for Ewers. If he'd transferred to Miami the way Carson Beck did, he'd forever in large part be associated with Miami and whatever he did there for a season. The same way Beck will be now. 

The cavalier dismissiveness of Auerbach's article - and of everyone else who talks about Ewers' decision making as a mistake - is undervaluing the pull of an association with the University of Texas, especially when that association existed since childhood, and $4 million in annual pay doesn't have the same kind of pull that it once may have because of earnings already made. 

I get all the people who want to come down on Ewers as being not quite good enough. I have many of the same criticisms. But I am grateful for him coming to UT. I feel like he made the team a lot better with his presence. Sure, Manning seems more talented than Ewers overall, with a higher ceiling. Maybe the team would have been more successful than a second place finish in the SEC and a semifinal appearance in the playoffs. But that is entirely hypothetical, no matter how convicted people want to feel about their views. And Ewers is definitely going to be seen in a different light by many years down the road because he didn't transfer somewhere else, the same way other transfer players are seen differently because they chose to play elsewhere during their collegiate career.

Was it worth $4 million to be able to say that? I don't know. To me it wouldn't be, but I don't have Ewers' earning power, even as a 7th round pick. I'm glad it wasn't compelling to Ewers, because I'd view him differently regardless of circumstances if it did.  

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Posted
17 hours ago, WineGuy69 said:

It is kind of like you dont answer any of my questions, you just try to justify yourself and again without ever answering anything I ask you.

I can tell your reading comprehension is shit so I am going to guess two things. I laid out the difference between posting on a message board and spending years defending a position to strangers.

Your reading comprehension is dog shit. So little boy, go back and read my posts, please stop posting on the board of school you clearly didnt go to (you clearly dont have the intelligence) and please take people like Nicole with you. This board would be better off.

Whatever man. I barely post here as it is. Mainly because of twat waffles like you. I answered your question. So what if some of us want to make our voices heard.

i know this is a difficult concept but i can critique and be critical of a UT player regardless of position and both still like them and appreciate what they have done for Texas and want them to succeed. 
 

this idea that you have to be a hater if you make a criticism is something a 5 year old thinks. 
 

I said numerous times I want Quinn to succeed. Anyone who thought he’d go in rounds 1-3 was wrong. I made my point and am moving on.

Good post and SIAP. 

https://x.com/insidetexas/status/1916895943556763897?s=46&t=wR1WsslZNubrCBLx8_7YLQ

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4 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Whatever man. I barely post here as it is. Mainly because of twat waffles like you. I answered your question. So what if some of us want to make our voices heard.

i know this is a difficult concept but i can critique and be critical of a UT player regardless of position and both still like them and appreciate what they have done for Texas and want them to succeed. 
 

this idea that you have to be a hater if you make a criticism is something a 5 year old thinks. 
 

I said numerous times I want Quinn to succeed. Anyone who thought he’d go in rounds 1-3 was wrong. I made my point and am moving on.

Good post and SIAP. 

https://x.com/insidetexas/status/1916895943556763897?s=46&t=wR1WsslZNubrCBLx8_7YLQ

You have 22,000+ posts.

No need to get defensive. I was simply asking philosophically why it was important.

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After some time to reflect, I know where I recognize Quinn's body language from: it's the body language of someone who got taken by a memecoin. A crypto rug pull. The 90% loss ($8M vs. $800K) tracks too.

The silver lining here is Miami might give him the best chance he could have hoped for to play meaningful snaps in the NFL and increase his stock. I will be rooting for his success and I encourage all of you to do the same.

Posted
1 hour ago, Nicole44 said:

Whatever man. I barely post here as it is. Mainly because of twat waffles like you. I answered your question. So what if some of us want to make our voices heard.

i know this is a difficult concept but i can critique and be critical of a UT player regardless of position and both still like them and appreciate what they have done for Texas and want them to succeed. 
 

this idea that you have to be a hater if you make a criticism is something a 5 year old thinks. 
 

I said numerous times I want Quinn to succeed. Anyone who thought he’d go in rounds 1-3 was wrong. I made my point and am moving on.

Good post and SIAP. 

https://x.com/insidetexas/status/1916895943556763897?s=46&t=wR1WsslZNubrCBLx8_7YLQ

Probably don't have as much time because of all the planning into your after hours gig 🤐

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